If true.

P. Aaron on June 29, 2011 at 12:29 pm

I am also sick of hearing about Bono of U2 war on poverty but avoids paying taxes in his home coutry Irleand. We all know that the money does not go to the poor africans but to the dictators who we fund their lavish life styles so there wivies can shopping in finest botiques in europe and their sons can buy expensive sports cars to run around in. Hey Bono why don’t you give all your money away instead of hard pressed tax payer have to give our billions to these mad dictators.

JohnPaul Bagnoli on June 29, 2011 at 12:40 pm

Debbie,
You’re wrong about the anti-Vietnam War (Congress never declared war, one of many causes for protest) movement causing excessive US Soldier deaths. The Vietnam War would’ve continued until 1985 without those protests, causing another 100,000 US war dead. Remember, there were many (1000’s)of Vietnam War Vets who came home, grew their hair out long, and protested the Vietnam War in street demonstrations. They were called “Vietnam Vets Against the War” and had large numbers. I have photos of them. The Vietnam War was hugely mismanaged by arrogant Generals (Westmorlant) and politicians. John Lennon was not widely followed, people made up their own minds back then.

Truth on June 29, 2011 at 12:48 pm

I don’t know if John Lennon really did as much damage as you say, but what bothers me about him is his song “Imagine”. Yes, it’s a catchy tune, and it’s nice to have a vision of world peace, but then he had to go and use the words “and no religion too”.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen too many far extreme leftists use John Lennon’s song as their mantra to eliminate all religion. I believe John Lennon has a big influence on the anti-religion sentiments of a lot of people on the left. It’s very sad, because to me world peace should include religious freedom (except for things like Jihad cause religion should never be an excuse to kill people).

Zsuzsi on June 29, 2011 at 12:56 pm

You are so wrong Truth. It was not the protesters (at the time, most average Americans HATED them) who helped stop the war. I believe Congress DE-funded it. And even though we could have won we didn’t and even though the cause may have been righteous (however, not how it started by the lie in the Gulf of Tonkin) we didn’t fight it proper of get the support it SHOULD have had.

Protesters, schmotesters. Look what happened to THEM once Bush left office? Where the hell are they? We are in Libya now and all I hear are crickets. Where’s that tower of stability and sanity (sarc/) Cindy Sheehan? No. Where.

And the protesters in Vietnam were all about the draft. Once the draft ended…so did the protests.

And the only time the hippy/dippy freakos protest a war, it’s only due to a REPUBLICAN president being in the drivers seat. No anti-war protests against MaObama…and there ought to be.

Skunky on June 29, 2011 at 1:05 pm

Yeah, who cares if Lennon was a closet Republican. I agree 100% with DS’ post. Ditto.

He was my least favourite Beatle. While I do like a handful of his solo songs, I am more into Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and George Harrison’s solo stuff. I have ALWAYS liked their solo stuff far, far better than their Beatles discography. I do like “Abbey Road” and their last album thou’.

I hate “Imagine”. I loved it when I was a child, but it’s all played out now and like Susie, I hate the message of it.

Yoko is the ultimate phony thou’. I hate frauds. And I hate when people like frauds.

Skunky on June 29, 2011 at 1:11 pm

???????, ?? ???????? I guess….

Macker on June 29, 2011 at 1:15 pm

One of the dreariest Christmas, oops, I mean “Winter” concerts that I ever attended was at my son’s elementary school where the “Christmas” song selected was Lennon’s “So This Is Christmas” (or whatever the title is). I sent a nasty note to the music director about that selection – no response.

When Lennon was murdered, my brother observed that so many people were mourning him. But he pointed out that Lennon led many people to drug use and asked how many people died because of him?

I don’t believe he admired or liked Reagan.

Concerned Citizen on June 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm

I remember hearing Harrison say it was hard enough to write a catchy hook and rhyme words together, without concealing some sinister, internal plot into the songs. My 8-year old grandson was listening to Beatle songs the other day which blew my mind. He was born 45-years after the Beatles disbanded, yet the music had a profound effect on him. Debbie..I think that as they die off, they will be individually forgotten. But their music will go on long after you and I are gone. My mother was born in 1916 and during the Ed Sullivan show she commented to me “these English guys are something special”. Let the poor bastard rest in peace.

#1 Vato on June 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm

If anyone really believes that John Lennon launched a public war on America through his advocacy of drug use and sexual liberation, then you are more ovine than the idiots of the 1960s

[Dear Readers: Wayne Moriarty is the Editor in Chief of the Canadian newspaper, The Province. He used to be semi-conservative. Not sure what happened. DS

wayne moriarty on June 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Debbie, again, brings to mind: ” When going out to speak the truth, don’t wear your best suit of clothes.”–(can’t recall source)
Thanks, honorable one, for so demonstrating a true meaning of the usually obnoxious use of “giving back.” Thanks for sharing your most considerable IQ and gift of expression. No one out there does it better or with such unbending courage.
I love Lennon, the artist and would like to believe he grew up, politically; it seems, maybe, he did.

lee on June 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm

“And I think John Lennon and The Beatles are among the most over-rated figures in history.” On this I agree, though musical tastes vary. I was more into the Stones, Airplane and the Doors than the Beatles. I referred to the White album as the “Great White Put-On” with but one song that grabbed me – “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”, and that only due to Clapton’s guitar work.

The problem with Lennon’s “Imagine” goes well beyond the “and no religion too” line. Recall “Imagine there’s no country” – no patriotism or national pride, no borders, just multi-culti “we are the world” fantasy. Or how about “Nothing to live or die for” – no place for self-defense, just surrender all you hold dear to the first aggressor to come along. It’s a paean to an amoral life lacking in values.

Raymond in DC on June 29, 2011 at 3:03 pm

John Lennon was about as responsible for family “breakdown” in this country as the Harry Potter books and films. Reality check: When people get a divorce or have kids out of wedlock, it’s due to reasons that have nothing to do with what’s on the radio or in concert halls.

This piece is just devolved neoconservatism. I suppose next we’re going to read how the Steve Miller Band helped the North Vietnamese conquer South Vietnam.

Seek on June 29, 2011 at 3:38 pm

From what I’ve heard about Lennon, he was an obnoxioous jerk totally taken in by one of the biggest BSers ever (name starts with ‘O’).

But…but…Debbie, why did we go into Vietnam? Libya? Afghanistan? For none of the reasons the politicians spouted.
On the bright side, a lot of armament manufacturers got very, very RICH.

Nir Lieu on June 29, 2011 at 4:19 pm

“Imagine” is a beautiful song until you really listen to the lyrics…that “no religion” line turned me off too. Which is ironic, because what the song unintentionally describes is how life was in the Biblical Garden of Eden.

But calling he Beatles “overrated”??? I definitely disagree…

FIETTS on June 29, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Back when Debbie wrote her “Sick of Hearing About John Lennon: His Devastating War on America” last December, one of those who commented made that claim about Lennon being a “closet Republican” towards the end of his life, as is now in that article she is referring to, to debunk that claim (as well it should).

Besides . . . from what I remember, he and Yoko were among the guests of Jimmy Carter’s inaugural ball.

ConcernedPatriot on June 29, 2011 at 4:30 pm

The divorce rate in US started climbing sharply in mid-60s, but unlikely due to the Beatles/Lennon influence. The biggest factor is believed to be the adoption of “no fault” divorce laws in most states. As for the out of wedlock kids, the majority of them is born to the blacks, who are unlikely Lennon fans.

Begletz on June 29, 2011 at 5:10 pm

And as for religion, I do not see any hard evidence of its benefits. Teen pregnancy rates, murder, suicide etc per capita–all these stats are higher in Southern, deeply religious states.

Begletz on June 29, 2011 at 6:12 pm

I don’t know what you’ve been smoking, Debbie. But I know 12-year-olds who love the Beatles.

The Beatles did more to impact the sounds you hear on the radio now than anybody. Their competition with the Beach Boys spurred both bands to stretch the limits of music.

Sure, drugs played a huge part and John Lennon was probably insane. But he didn’t set out to destroy America. He shared his message of peace with a hungry world.

The Beatles didn’t urge peeps to kill cops or rape women as today’s rap and hip-hop stars do. The message was always love, love, love. How is that destructive?

They will be remembered forever, as young people and babies hear their music. Despite your hate for them.

Lisa C. on June 29, 2011 at 6:28 pm

“I think John Lennon and The Beatles are among the most over-rated figures in history. When the baby boomers are all dead, The Beatles will be forgotten with them and assigned to an irrelevant tiny molecule of a dustbin among many a galaxy of dustbins of history…

…as opposed to Phil Collins, who a hundred years from now, everyone will speak of as being up there with Beethoven, Mozart and Gershwin.”

Debbie, you’re problem is that you don’t have a clear understanding of your own strengths and weaknesses. Your most obvious strengths are your knowledge of middle east history, and your prowess as an investigative journalist. Your most obvious weakness is your non-existent taste in music (which appears to be based entirely on the political views of the person or persons creating said music).

If it’s of any interest, John & Yoko’s son Sean has performed in Israel numerous times. An internet friend of mine who lives in Tel Aviv saw his show and told me he was a pretty good performer, although his songwriting isn’t all that memorable. She said the audience perked up quite a bit when he delved into his dad’s catalog and gave rousing renditions of “A Day In The Life” and “Come Together.”

Anyhow, as you know, one of the low points of the Reagan administration was interior secretary James Watt’s publicly stated preference for Wayne Newton over The Beach Boys (apparently because Newton’s hair was short and Carl Wilson’s hair was long or something). Your similar preference for Phil Collins over The Beatles is probably going to come back to haunt you some day. Nobody under the age of 25 even knows who Genesis (the band, not the biblical chapter) was, while just about everyone of any age has not only heard of the Beatles, but can probably belt out a few choruses of many Lennon & McCartney tunes just as easily as they can regurgitate “Row row row your boat.” Even Phil Collins would acknowledge that.

And one more thing…you started out this article by asking if anyone agrees with “The report that the late John Lennon was a Republican.” I am willing to bet everything I own that until you posted a link to it, nobody here knew what on earth you were talking about. Perhaps because of your close proximity to the Canadian border, you feel the “Toronto Sun” is of much more importance than it actually is. Hell, I’ll bet it’s hardly even read by anyone in Toronto.

Irving on June 29, 2011 at 6:48 pm

Well, there is no doubt that many of the antiwar movement leaders and activists collaborated with the enemy, without doubt increasing the number of US military deaths.

And it is by no means established that without the antiwar movement the war would have lasted longer. Quite likely, we could have sent in enough military forces to win the war quickly, and then get out (if we were not afraid of domestic protest/subversion).

Although there were some protesters and demonstrators that were really only against the war, there is no doubt that the leadership and activist core was anti-American and pro-Communist, and saw this movement as a way of defeating the US and preparing for revolution. It was a loathsome movement.

Little Al on June 29, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Don’t forget Hanoi Jane and the rest of them, and all the NLF flags in the ‘peace’ demonstrations.

Little Al on June 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm

One cannot take credit for positions one has never uttered publicly. I have a feeling that these claims are either an out and out fabrication or exaggerated. Mr. Lennon could have expressed himself freely on such matters in the late 1970’s, since he would have suffered no financial harm in doing so, but chose not to. This tells me that the assistant who made the claim is not someone to be believed.

Worry01 on June 29, 2011 at 8:06 pm

You know, people get so bloody defensive when it comes to bands/singers/artists/actors they like. Chill out. When it comes to those things, it is all so subjective. who cares as long as you’re getting you’re joy?

Just because DS is not a huge Beatles fan does NOT mean she has a crap taste in music. I may not be into what she is but I know she loves the music she likes…and I love the music I like. I don’t have to listen to hers and vice-versa.

I can live another day if people do not have my musical tastes…even my movie tastes…and I am a big movie snob.

And I don’t think DS was stating that Lennon had it all worked out that he was gonna corrode the culture…he did play a part in that and he was more zealous…it just clicked in as that was when the counter-culture was gaining speed.

So please, taking it so bloody literally (as well as being offended that she doesn’t like the bloody Beatles!) makes you look facile.

Madonna did not plan to take over the culture, but by happenstance and by her sustaining cultural power SHE DID. That is all DS means. Sometimes things just click and build up speed and change the course of the zeitgeist. The current is so strong it changes the course.

C’mon. You peeps are usually smarter than that.

Skunky on June 29, 2011 at 8:32 pm

Yeah, yeah…I grew up in the South, folks there are still fighting a war their ancestors lost in 1865. How long will some people keep fighting the Vietnam War, another country’s civil war? Another 100+ years?

RAMBO 2068: WE GET TO WIN THIS TIME! Stallone is back, thanks to cloning and human life extension hormones!

Lennon. He may have been a jerk, but to give him so much credit for warping a generation and the USA…is almost to say that anyone could’ve done the same thing and so many Americans were sheep waiting to be led to astray by a celebrity. I mean, that’s an absurd concept and *remembers Oprah*…well, maybe not entirely absurd.

Also, on a tacky level, I’d like to say Yoko was homely at best, and Johnny could’ve done better. Wanker.

Lamb Chopz on June 30, 2011 at 12:09 am

Okay, Deb–put up ya dukes. As an ‘in-the-trenches’ member of the boomer generation, there are many things that only boomers can understand about the whole Nam/60s experience. Allow me: Virtually no “boomers,” other than perhaps the drugged out hippie-dippie set, lionized John Lennon. As far as the majority of us were concerned, he was a pop star who was part of a pop music phenomenon, who eventually hooked up with Oh-no-no-no and fked over his fellow music makers. Making a god out of him didn’t come until some time later. I first started hearing references to Lennon’s “philosophy” (whatever the hell that is/was)in the mid-eighties. You have to remember, the boomers were probably the last generation, as a group, to not give a crap about an entertainers politics or philosophy of life (or at least, not allow themselves to be influenced by them). ‘Just shut up and entertain me’ was still the call of the day. Admittedly, there was the Bob Dylans, Joan Baezes, Smothers Brothers, etc., et al, who incorporated many of the questions that our generation was asking into their work, but no one was making the demi-gods out of them that YOOUUUR generation made out of John Lennon. “When the baby boomers are all dead, The Beatles will be forgotten with them and assigned to an irrelevant tiny molecule of a dustbin among many a galaxy of dustbins of history.” Sorry Deb, but you might have to wait until your own generation takes its leave from the planet before the Beatles lives and political views are gone. You guys are the ones who breathed life into them. In fact, other than enjoying their music, I’m sure you’d be hard put to find a member of my generation giving enough of a crap about the beatles, their families, their histories, their philosophies, their dogs, etc–in total–to be able to devote as much print as you did to Lennon. Before making boomer judgement calls it might be advisable to discuss the topic area with several boomers (Predominately draftable males)and get a sense of their feelings on the issue in question. No amount of historical knowledge of any given era can give one the sense that one gets who has actually experienced the era–even in the absence of the historical particulars.

P.S.
As Dominick engages Angelo is but another game of 8-ball we hear his questioning of who is actually to blame for our nation’s nose dive.

DOMINICK AND ANGELO—The Scourge of

America, President Bushbama

DOMINICK: Yo, Angelo, you look upset. Not that you ever

look particularly terrific. But—uh, you

look lousier than usual.

ANGELO: Yeah, yeah…

DOMINICK: What’s up, goombah? Why the Puss?

ANGELO: I’m discouraged.

DOMINICK: Come on, rack the balls. Ya ain’t ever gonna beat

me at 8-ball, so don’t stress nothin’ over that.

ANGELO: No, no…

DOMINICK: …Did’ja miss getting that there scholarship to Oxford, again?

ANGELO: Wha..?

DOMINICK: …Pullin’ your leg. Come on—tighten that pack.

So, what’s buggin’ ya?

ANGELO: This here president.

DOMINICK: Who? Bushbama?

ANGELO: Yeah—Yeah.

DOMINICK: He’s gotcha down?

ANGELO: He’s got everybody down.

DOMINICK: Everybody?

ANGELO: Everybody I know…Good break.

DOMINICK: What good—only one dropped…Would-a been a good

break for you maybe…For me—lousy.

ANGELO: What dropped?

DOMINICK: …13.

ANGELO: 13—hey, that’s bad luck.

DOMINICK: Yeah—for who?

ANGELO: You got stripes.

DOMINICK: No kiddin’. So…who’s all down about President Bushbama?

ANGELO: Oh—well, for one, I had a drink with Hubie
Petrovich the other day.

DOMINICK: Hold on, Ange. You had a bunch of drinks with Hubie Petrovich the other day, and Hubie
Petrovich at least tripled you in drinks.

ANGELO: ???

DOMINICK: That means that for every drink you had, Hubie
had at least three.

ANGELO: How did you know that?

DOMINICK: I know that because Hubie’s a competitive lush.
In other words, he tries to outdrink everybody
he’s with.

ANGELO: Yeah, Hubie can drink quite a bit.

DOMINICK: Hubie Petrovich is a wino, an alkee, a souse, a
boozer, an AA reject. He spends more money on
booze than he does his wife, kids, car, and living room, combined.

ANGELO: Okay—Awright—Hubie’s had a tough life, though.

DOMINICK: Why, ‘cause of President Bushbama, or because
he’s a friggin’ drunk?

ANGELO: Well…

DOMINICK: 10 ball. So, who else don’t like Bushbama?

ANGELO: Well—a lotta people.

DOMINICK: Who?

ANGELO: There’s—uh—Jimmy Cacavalle. Yeah.

DOMINICK: Stupid Jimmy?

ANGELO: Yeah. Stupit Jimmy.

DOMINICK: Cacavalle??

ANGELO: Yeah.

DOMINICK: He’s a moron.

ANGELO: Yeah, well, he can’t get no job ‘cause of
Bushbama. Bushbama ain’t providin’ no jobs,
Dominick. The president’s supposed to make jobs an’ stuff.

DOMINICK: He is?

ANGELO: Yeah, and Jimmy Cacavalle…

DOMINICK: Stupid Jimmy?

ANGELO: Yeah. He couldn’t even get a job at the bowlin’
alley; and you don’t need no brains for that.

DOMINICK: That’s where you work.

ANGELO: I know.

DOMINICK. Somewhere in there maybe you have a point—I don’t
know…11 ball.

ANGELO: Yeah, this here Bushbama’s causin’ all kinds of
unemployment.

DOMINICK: For Jimmy Cacavalle?

ANGELO: Yeah.

DOMINICK: “Cacavalle”—even his name’s stupit. Listen, Angelo. Jimmy Cacavalle can’t get no work because he’s an RD.

ANGELO: A what?

DOMINICK: An RD.

ANGELO: What’s an ardy?

DOMINICK: That’s RD…Registered Dope. He’s a putz, a
Jerk, a dope…

ANGELO: Awright—Awright…

DOMINICK: Cacavalle walks around wearing those stupid pants
that don’t know whether they want to be shorts
or trousers.

ANGELO: Shorts, or what??

DOMINICK: …Wears that stupid baseball hat backwards on his stupid head.

ANGELO: That don’t make him a bad guy.

DOMINICK: …Got earrings in his nose and tattoos on his neck.

ANGELO: So?

DOMINICK: So…Would you hire him?

ANGELO: ………..Ya know, Cacavalle can’t help it ‘cause he’s stupit.

DOMINICK: Yeah, you’re right, Angelo, it’s probably Bushbama’s fault. I think maybe when presidents take the oath of office they’re given the power to turn people into losers. Okay, who’s next? 10 ball inna corner.

ANGELO: How come you name your pocket, sometimes. You don’t have to name your pocket in 8-Ball.

DOMINICK: It’s better that way.

ANGELO: Yeah?

DOMINICK: Yeah. I should name the pocket alla time.

ANGELO: Yeah? Howze come?

DOMINICK: That way I won’t be tempted to BS me or my opponent if the ball goes in the wrong pocket.

ANGELO: ?????…….Tyrone Davis.

DOMINICK: Tyrone Davis?

ANGELO: Yeah, he’s a big BSer.

DOMINICK: What about ‘im? He’s a homeless bum.

ANGELO: I just thought about him ‘cause you mentioned BS.

DOMINICK: And old Tyrone came right to mind, ay?

ANGELO: He ain’t that old, Dominick.

DOMINICK: He looks it though, don’t he?

ANGELO: Yeah, well, he deserves better than he got.

DOMINICK: Why?

ANGELO: Well…And ya know it ain’t nice to call him a bum.

DOMINICK: What should I call him, “Monsignor?…Your excellency?” Angelo, he’s a bum. He never wanted to work. He’s a bum. The “cool” guy…Big boom box on his shoulder…Alla time snappin’ his fingers…Cigarette danglin’ from his mouth…Always used to say, “Hah school’s a bunch of boooolsh…” Isn’t that what he use to say? Awright, who’s next?

ANGELO: Whaddaya mean?

DOMINICK: Who else did President Bushbama ruin?

ANGELO: What? Are you kiddin’? Are you kiddin’ me, Dominick?

DOMINICK: Here we go.

ANGELO: Are you kiddin’ me? Lookit all the sick people out there. People with cancer, and diabeetics, and—and, multiple miosis, and hodgekiss disease, and—uh—uh, fatness.

DOMINICK: ……Fatness?

ANGELO: Yeah.

DOMINICK: Fatness…Obesity.

ANGELO: Yeah—yeah, obeseness.

DOMINICK: What about ‘em?

ANGELO: Well, we gotta have some kind of health care or somethin’ for those people.

DOMINICK: We do; they’re called doctors and hospitals.

ANGELO: After all—it ain’t their fault that they’re that way………..Why ya lookin’ at me like that, Dominick? Aintcha gonna shoot?

DOMINICK: When I’m good and ready. But right now I’m taking a few moments to bask in the warmth of your overwhelming myopia.

ANGELO: …Oh, hey—thanks…….right?

DOMINICK: So, I suppose my dear buddy; I suppose that it was president Bushbama who made those people sick?…Made them eat crap—-smoke cigarettes…

ANGELO: Well…

DOMINICK: …Made them fat.

ANGELO: Maybe not that, but he should be doing something about it…

DOMINICK: Oh, I get it…

ANGELO: Ya know—ya keep leanin’ on that cue like that, it’s gonna break.

DOMINICK: …..Uh-oh. We don’t want that. Then I might fall and get hurt…Bust a few ribs or somethin’ …Maybe a leg or two.

ANGELO: Or three, ha—ha.

DOMINICK: Shut up.

ANGELO: Okay.

DOMINICK: Then I guess I’d have to sue Bushbama.

ANGELO: ???…

DOMINICK: I mean, after all—-it couldn’t be my fault. But wait—what have we here? Dominick the Brilliant has straightened out the pool cue—-is no longer leaning upon it, and standing up straight; ergo, he may not have to suffereth the slings and arrows of a broken pool cue, and be falling uponith his firm little Neopolitan derrier.

ANGELO: ?????

DOMINICK: …You remember Paulie Desantis.

ANGELO: Big, tall, goofy Paulie? Yeah, sure.

DOMINICK:…Didn’t have a brain in his head.

ANGELO: Yeah, he was a dope, I remember.

DOMINICK: Almost as stupid as you.

ANGELO: Well….Hey!?

DOMINICK: He had asthma, remember?

ANGELO: He did?

DOMINICK: Yeah. Dontcha remember him alla time stickin’
that there inhaler in his chops.

ANGELO: The what?

DOMINICK: The inhaler. 9 ball—combo off…

ANGELO: What’s an inhaler?

DOMINICK: That’s that thing that these people with asthma use so they could breathe.

ANGELO: Oh. Oh yeah. DeSantis had a problem breathing?

DOMINICK: He had a problem thinking; but that’s beside the point. Yeah, people with asthma have a tough time breathing sometimes.

ANGELO: So that’s why he used that there inhaler?

DOMINICK: That’s it, Angie, you’re catchin’ on. Ya know, sometimes you ain’t as dumb as you look.

ANGELO: Thanks, Dominick. That’s the first compliment you’ve paid me in a long time.

DOMINICK: ………14 Ball—corner.

ANGELO: Didn’t DeSantis have to go to the hospital for a long time?

DOMINICK: Yeah, he got cancer. He got lung cancer from smoking…Real smart, huh?

ANGELO: What?

DOMINICK: The dope takes up smoking when he’s in his late twenties. He’s had asthma all his life, and he decides to smoke.

ANGELO: Prob’ly not a good idea, huh?

DOMINICK: So he gets lung cancer and has to go through all those treatments that cost gobs of money.

ANGELO: He ain’t got no money.

DOMINICK: No kiddin’.

ANGELO: His mother works in a 7-11

DOMINICK: That’s right. 15 ball.

ANGELO: And she ain’t even from India or nothin’.

DOMINICK: And guess how much all them cancer treatments cost, Angelo.

ANGELO: I don’t know. A lot–right?

DOMINICK: Yeah, like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

ANGELO: DeSantis ain’t got that kind of money…7-11
Pays that good??

DOMINICK: No, Angelo. Whaddaya think? Ya think Bushbama
should pay for all them cancer treatments?

ANGELO: Sure, why not? Ay, if people are sick, they’re sick—-Ya know?

DOMINICK: And where’s Bushbama gonna get the money from, Angelo?

ANGELO: From the guvament.

DOMINICK: From the government? And where is the government gonna get the money from?

ANGELO: Well…Maybe…

DOMINICK: I’ll tell you where the government gets the money from, Angelo.

ANGELO: Where?

DOMINICK: From you and me.

ANGELO: I ain’t got that kind of money; do you?

DOMINICK: From the taxes we pay.

ANGELO: What? You don’t pay no taxes.

DOMINICK: That’s beside the point.

ANGELO: But you don’t pay no taxes.

DOMINICK: That ain’t the point…

ANGELO: You should pay your taxes Dominick. I mean, if everybody did what they were supposed to do…

DOMINICK: Ya mean like pay taxes?

ANGELO: Yeah.

DOMINICK: And maybe not eat themselves to death, so the government, using the peoples’ tax dollar…

ANGELO: Except for yours; ‘cause you don’t pay no taxes.

DOMINICK: Shutup, Angelo. I know that. Lemme continue.
Maybe the government wouldn’t have to pay to put all the unhealthy fatsos in the hospitals.

ANGELO: How about them people that smoke.

DOMINICK: You smoke.

ANGELO: I quit.

DOMINICK: You quit? When?

ANGELO: Just now.

DOMINICK: Just now?

ANGELO: Yeah, well, ‘cause I don’t wanna get sick and have to get better using people’s tax money.
I mean, I’d especially be in trouble because there’s prob’ly a lot more people like you that don’t pay no taxes.

DOMINICK: Yeah, I’ll bet there’s a few of us out there.

ANGELO: Yeah. There’s some screwballs out there awright……..

LOVE YA-DEB………….pb

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shegundala on June 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

I guess you had to live through it to fully get-it. But 30-years after his death and we are still talking about him? I can’t help but think John would be tickled. By the way, he was a non-immigrant with a waivered 0-1 visa. His widow was ‘awarded’ his I-551 (LAPR) after his murder. He never voted, so his political affiliation never much mattered. Pat Robertson regularly and may have been a closeted Christian. But so what? The Nixon administration was hot on his ass to get him deported via [legacy] INS and J. Edgar Hoover’s horsepower. Lennon managed to stay one step ahead of formal deportation though. Amusing history nonetheless.

#1 Vato on June 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm

Janis Joplin used to get crowds going from the stage by maligning the police (“Pigs”).

Meanwhile, SHE made darn sure she got plenty of plainclothes police protection (I know a protector) to make sure she was safe at the concerts…

Sound like a bit like John?

Who were these people? Why do we care?

Maybe as the truth about everything eventually emerges, we should be much more vigilant about what/who we allow to dazzle us.

elizabeth on June 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm

Beatles had a lot of good tunes, but the amount of air play that some of the really lame ones got, IE: “Obla-Di Obla-Da, “Hello Goodbye” and others, make me think that they had an actual pact with Satan. How else could such crappy songs become so popular, enriching the mop-tops far beyond their wildest imagination.

CornCoLeo on June 30, 2011 at 6:28 pm

The Beatles are overrated:

They never did any song better than Steely Dan’s “King of the World,” the best post-apocalyptic siong, ever. (Yes, better than Zager and Evans.) They never did any song better than “Here at the Western World,” either.

And Harrison, while a great guitarist, was not in the same class with Mark Knopfler.

And so, they never did anything as good as “Sultans of Swing.” I guess they are just in Dire Straits.

Occam's Tool on June 30, 2011 at 9:36 pm

I will give Lennon a pass. You say he never apologized, but when did Reagan get elected? 1980. When did Lennon get shot? 1980. We were never given the chance to see what kind of man he could have been later in life. After all, there was a 30 year difference between Bedtime for Bonzo and the White House.

colt13 on July 2, 2011 at 9:18 pm

I never ever liked the beatles music,I found it boring and monotonous,so I was marching and walking to a tune of a different drum than my generation,I was a child when the beatles were famous thou,but even now I dislike their music & unlike skunky none of their solo projects interest me, and yes they bear some but not all the responsability of the decay of the moral norm in America,so as far as I am concerned if they erased Elvis’ and the beatles from America’s memory and history I d be fine with that…. as a rule I try not tl spend money supporting know liberals and anti american artists.

Juan on February 4, 2012 at 11:54 pm