Seizer, your an ignorant slut! The President is none of those. He should, however be impeached for ignoring one of the most pressing issues of our time which is border security. The USA will be gone soon due to it’s terrible economic and tax policies, it lack of security and it lack of intestinal fortitude in prosecuting it’s enemies here at home(this means all like you Seizer). You’ll be happy until the croc decides to eat you as well. Cheers!

Islamsnotforme on February 9, 2007 at 6:40 pm

Dear Debbie;
Guest worker program my ass. That’s one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard. I’m trying to figure out why Mr. Bush is being such a jag-off about this. Is he having sex with the president of Mexico? Does the president of Mexico have pictures of Mr. Bush fornicating with a pumkin?
All kidding aside, perhaps Mr. Bush is fawning on the Spanish in order to procure future votes for the Republician Party. In other words, acting like Democrat
Sincerely;
EJO

EJO on February 9, 2007 at 7:28 pm

Does Bush even know where the border is? Does he realize that Mexico is a seperate country? Does he realize borders define what a country is?
Yea….he has things under control. I lost confidence in him a long time ago. We should have realized this on 9-11 when Bush was in his bunker and Rudy was the defacto president.

greatcometof1577 on February 9, 2007 at 11:16 pm

I agree with you Debbie,
Could you give a simple action step that we can use to be heard more on this?

BB on February 9, 2007 at 11:58 pm

Debbie:
It is beyond scary at this point.
I am telling you and the American people that many ICE Special Agents in offices around the country have either shut down or are fleeing the agency like bees from a hive (either retirement, transfers to other 1811/1801 series jobs or outright resignation from Federal employment). I can report from my office in a major southern tier city that a fatal malaise has set in, fueled by the lack of clear mission, lack of funding and the general disrespect shown to what was a very seasoned cadre of investigatior just slightly less than 4 years ago.
I think that, as far as criminal investigations go – immigration or customs – those are all but D.O.A., like poor Anna Nicole Smith. The job of apprehending, incarcerating and deporting immigration (hence, administrative) violators can easily be handled by 1801 DRO officers; you don’t need Special Agents to do that. As for me, my exit from ICE is being held up by the continuing resolution; I sincerely hope funding for my (hopefully) next employer will come very soon.

4EVERCUSTOMS on February 10, 2007 at 4:06 pm

http://www.spp.gov. Now wih the Dems in office? Bush’s GWP will go as plan. Twelve years in Congress, CAFTA, NAFTA and GWP?
Here is one last chance to stop this:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.CON.RES.40:
We wasted our time yelling back and forth and if we don’t do somethig now? Deb, I hope you have a gun and are willing to shoot to kill to protect your sovereignty. Do you? Do any of us?

KOAJaps on February 10, 2007 at 4:50 pm

“I firmly believe that in order for your Border Patrol agents to be able to do their job, we need a guest worker program so that people don’t have to sneak in our country, and therefore, we can really enable your good folks to be able to focus on terrorism, drug runners, gun runners.”
Translation:
I firmly believe that in order for your Border Patrol agents to be prevented from doing their jobs, we need a serf worker program so that greedy employers don’t have to pay a legally competitive wage in our country, and therefore, we can really enable my campaign contributors to be able to focus on making a lot of money for themselves and cutting wages for American workers and screwing American tax payers.

feralcat9 on February 10, 2007 at 4:52 pm

I remember talking with a border patrol supervisor in Texas once, when he was off-duty. The guy described an unbelievable shortage of resources to control the border. I was floored to hear about the situation first hand and would recommend anyone who gets the chance to, to ask an off-duty border patrol agent sometime.

Steven the Teacher on February 10, 2007 at 7:14 pm

ICE is meant to fail. That is why DRO is taking over the apprehension of criminal alien program (ACAP).
No criminal worksite enforcement cases are being pursued. Simple (but effective) worksite I-9 audits are prohibited. Those cases already in existence are being controlled by Headquarters and “cranked up” to be financially prohibited (to show that worksite enforcement is not viable).
Worksite Enforcement is claimed to be a “High Priority” but the percentage of hours attributed to such cases is mimimal.
Supervisors are discouraged from doing any real interior enforcement work.
I am ashamed of my agency and am counting the days before I can retire (but I am still trying to do my job).
Garcia was given the job to dismantle INS enforcement. He was too incompetent to do a complete job, so Julie was sent in as a “finisher.”
Like Garcia, she will get a choice DOJ job just like her husband.

SoonToRetireFromICE on February 11, 2007 at 1:50 am

ICE was created to address the problem of the broken INS not the illegal immigration problem. As far as I can remember the INS was always been a service oriented entity not enforcement. As a young Border Patrol agent, I witnessed the dregs and flunkies going to the INS. For example if someone failed the Border Patrol Academy or either the 6 month or 10 month test, they could slide into a job as an immigration inspector or INS agent. The INS rarely got the cream of the crop, had poor leadership and was ineffective. This was the broken INS. Customs on the other hand was enforcement minded and attracted bright young agents because of the variety of laws that were enforced. Someone in their great wisdom decided that after 9/11 INS was broken(hello!) and should be repaired. The INS was dissolved and what remained was merged with Customs. Instead of adopting Customs policies and procedures, ICE was created and adopted the broken INS system. Bonner had the balls to keep CBP(Customs and Border Protection) under the old Customs system. Now we have ICE, a bastard agency that was lowered to the lowest common denominator(the INS). There is no specific mission. Good agents are pulled off of National Security cases to go round up illegal aliens when Detention and Removal officers should be performing this function. I keep holding out hope that one day we will go back to the way it used to be. DHS and ICE is a joke! Hell, I’d vote for a democrat if they promised to dissolve ICE(no pun intended).
tdyinhell

tdyinhell on February 11, 2007 at 9:00 am

tdyinhell is correct. What he fails to mention is that a premier agency, Border Patrol, has gone to hell with the creation of DHS. Border Patrol management, neutered under INS, is now totally eviscerated under a Customs-run/oriented agency (CBP). Most of them know nothing about border enforcement outside the ports of entry and face little danger at the ports.
That said, the Bush administration should have moved long ago to reclassify as sworn officers the Customs and INS inspectors working at the ports. I have friends in Customs who are hesitant to pull their weapons on drug smugglers for fear that Customs management would discipline them.
The fat cat hacks have no clue how to secure this country.

rad_con62 on February 11, 2007 at 11:26 am

Rad, Your’e right about Border Patrol. They should have merged Customs OI with Border Patrol. That would be an agency that could things done!
tdyinhell

tdyinhell on February 11, 2007 at 12:53 pm

TDYINHELL I couldnt have said it better, I never saw a more incompetent agency then the INS. The more I observe their work ethics the more I understand how this country has gone to hell.And then to give Customs agents and Inspectors over to these scabs its no wonder why everybody is leaving DHS.That is the reason plain and simple,no need for a multibillion dollar Boing survey to figure that out either.

slayer72 on February 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm

AMEN AND KUDOS TO THE LAST 3 OR 4 POSTS RE. THIS MATTER.
Many Americans don’t realize that, despite its long-standing position within legacy INS, the Border Patrol did NOT consider themselves part of INS. I dare say, in a respectful sort of way in derference to my “border rat” brethren, that INS administrators saw BP as a “rouge element” within INS that basically marched to its own drum. In fact, the Chief Patrol Agent of the United States often had the White House’s ear more than any INS administrator ever could (this was also true of the Assistant Commissioner, OI of legacy Customs, whose division, prior to this whole merger BS, was putting up UNBELIEVABLE stats with complex, long-term investigations that originated with border seizures by OFO Inspectors).
Now, BP is just another cog in the wheel at CBP, and OI is a bastard child at ICE (DRO is the 800 pound gorilla there). So, 2 entities, formerly very proud and PRODUCTIVE, have been castrated and sacrified on the altar of political expediency, and now, absolutely NOTHING gets done, except to put BPAs Ramos and Compean in prison while the guilty smuggler goes free, and OI Special Agents twiddle their thumbs trying to chase after 12 million illegals while drug smugglers, money launderers and terrorists enjoy free reign in America.

4EVERCUSTOMS on February 11, 2007 at 7:22 pm

I can’t take this anymore. Every time I look up, a Legacy Customs puke is crying about thier “lack of standing” in ICE when they’re running the show !!!! Almost all the top brass in ICE are legacy CUSTOMS!!!!If its screwed up, then maybe its because legacy customs agents can only handle one case at a time, whereas legacy INS inspectors, Deportation Officers and to a lesser extent Special Agents could handle up to sixty each !!!!. Of course DRO can handle the processing of illegal aliens, I mean there are less than 700 deportation officers NATIONWIDE at any given point, so sure, we can handle a backlog of 15 MILLION.
The reality is that most DRO officers are working 60-70 hours a week conducting fugitive operations, Criminal Alien Apprehension Program cases (criminal aliens encountered in federal, state and local prisons), detained alien docket work, criminla prosecutions of re-entry cases, overseas escorts, etc, etc,.
Here’s some more reality for you, since the “merger” of Customs and INS at the ports of entry, legacy CUSTOMS has ridden roughshod over everyone and is now more concerned with “customer service” than law enforcement. Most legacy Customs folks simply don’t get it and they never will.
Breaking up the INS was the right move because of the dual role of the former agency and its intertwined chain of command that placed “benefit granters” in charge of enforcement personnel. However, merging Customs and INS was a huge mistake. Unlike my colleagues who are busy whinning, crabbing, and stealing oxygen until they retire, I’m working to do the best I can, as are all the dedicated folks I’m lucky to have around. by the way, I’ve got 16 years in and if God allows it, I’ll do 17 more before they force me out !!!!

DEPORTEM on February 13, 2007 at 10:20 am

2-decades in several domestic offices, to include overseas postings, have shown me that there has always been 15-20% of SAs that have carried the bulk of the investigative workload with the rest so much flotsam, waiting for a neat case to drop in their laps.
As for those grousing abut the merger, just remember the days when USCS was the largest recipient of most BP-flunkie that didn’t make it past the post-academy.
The DRO “800-lb gorilla” should be god-send to all of OI since it will help them, to a certain degree , to concentrate on “complex investigations”, to include immig cases since, as most here agree, these should be slam-dunk due to their relative ease compared with the “count ’em in one hand” Nat Sec or WMD cases.

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