Oh, Rocky IS a work of art, look at those chiseled abs! It’s like a modern-day statue of David.

Minnie Mouse on September 7, 2006 at 4:57 pm

If it were a picture of a can of tomato soup, these clowns wouldn’t be complaining about it being “commercial”, they tell us it was art.

Burt on September 7, 2006 at 5:10 pm

i agree after rocky i demand a statue of the fresh prince he has done a lot in philly too and we cant forget the new real home run king ryan howard

PNAMARBLE on September 7, 2006 at 5:20 pm

wow…finally a comment about art that doesn’t talk about a photograph of a crucifix in urine, robert maplethorpe’s photoraphy, or umbrellas on the side of a freeway.
Please remember this moment the next time you have a problem with freedom of expression. If a scupture of rocky is art, so are all the previous mentioned.
Isn’t freedom of expression great!

corkscrewy on September 7, 2006 at 11:03 pm

Sculptures, photographs that’s art, even Maplethorpe. Urine is not art, you don’t have to be creative to empty your bladder. Get a clue corkscrewy.

Minnie Mouse on September 7, 2006 at 11:12 pm

Minnie…
Piss Christ, is a somewhat controversial but famous photo of a crucifix in a jar or urine created by Andres Serrano; hence the reference. It is art, but lead to much uproar when first shown.

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 8:23 am

Minnie…
Piss Christ, is a somewhat controversial but famous photo of a crucifix in a jar or urine created by Andres Serrano; hence the reference. It is art, but lead to much uproar when first shown.

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 8:24 am

Try immersing a cartoon of Mohammad or even a depiction of his invention, allah, in a jar of urine and see what happens, corkhead.

Thee_Bruno on September 8, 2006 at 9:52 am

First… a crucifix wasn’t the only religious symbol photographed that way, and you are missing the point.
The point was (and still is) that if Rocky is to be considered art and you all are supporting freedom of expression, then remember that same belief when there is a scupture/photo/display/painting that may not be to your specific tastes.

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 10:09 am

I agree with you about what is/is not considered art. However, it was you who brought up the Piss Christ issue. You could’ve used something else to demonstrate your point but you didn’t.
Now, tell me what would happen if you published a photo of a cartoon of Moohammad or allah immersed in urine. C’mon, venture a guess, or are you just another apologist for islam?

Thee_Bruno on September 8, 2006 at 10:22 am

We have already seen what would happen should someone decide to create they type of photo. However, Islam is not to blame. Islamic extremists are to blame.
There have been plenty of attrocities performed in the name of Christianity. Are all christians to blame?

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 11:49 am

eh, all i’ve got to say is yay for rocky.

Descent on September 8, 2006 at 12:16 pm

Corkhead the Mad Muzlum vomited;
“We have already seen what would happen should someone decide to create they type of photo. However, Islam is not to blame. Islamic extremists are to blame.”
Then there must be about 1 billion extremist Muzlums out there because they rioted all over Europe and the Middle East. You admit that they don’t have the intelligence, temperament, nor the tolerance to live in modern society. You admit that they are throwbacks to a time when savagery was the norm among Arabs.
“There have been plenty of attrocities performed in the name of Christianity.”
Here we go again with that phony, Islamic “Crusades argument” bullshit.
For the 20th time: THE CRUSADES WERE A DIRECT RESPONSE TO MUZLUM CONQUESTS, BARBARISM, OPPRESSION, AND FORCED CONVERSION. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. The Christians responded to the crusades of Islam in order to protect themselves, their religion, and their way of life. Sounds very familiar to what is going on today, doesn’t it?
What a fucktard!

Thee_Bruno on September 8, 2006 at 12:47 pm

Yo Bruno…
I wasn’t referencing crusades. So get off your THEE-Fucktard high horse, and think beyond your 20th paragraph about the crusades.
Whether being a missionary of religion or ideology. There are plenty of examples of “civilizing the savages.” Or, beating them into submission until they adopt your “preferable” views. Often times this colonization resulted in much bloodshed and countless attrocities.
It never ceases to amaze me how a conversation about freedom of expression has to get into an argument about extremism, terrorism, etc.
Buy everything the administration is selling Bruno. Personally, I would rather think for myself…

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 3:09 pm

Corkhead;
I disagree with the administration on illegal immigration and a whole host of other issues.
Now as far as Christian missionaries “beating” the savages into submission, please document those instances. Now, by documentatio, I don’t mean pulling it out of your ass, or referencing Islamic websites. Document verifiable facts. Document the “colonization resulted in much bloodshed and countless attrocities”, as you put it.
Please be specific, Fucktard!

Thee_Bruno on September 8, 2006 at 4:08 pm

Again corkscrewy, anyone can piss in a cup, drop in a crucifix and take a picture. That’s not ART! Art requires some sort of creativity. Let’s take the sculpture of Rocky for example, it takes quite a bit if talent to sculpt. You have to make a mold and then cast it in bronze. Making a mold is no easy task.
Calling photographs art per se is pushing it but some of it could be, like nature shots or just showing some creativity. There is no creativity with Piss Christ. A third grader could do it. Hell most children throw shoes in the toilet, is that art? No.

Minnie Mouse on September 8, 2006 at 5:28 pm

BTW Bruno,
I love it when you go off on people, you are so funny when you’re angry.

Minnie Mouse on September 8, 2006 at 5:29 pm

Who cares. Leave the fucking statue

KOAJaps on September 8, 2006 at 5:45 pm

Minnie…early you said photographs are art, not you are saying they aren’t art. You even acknowledged maplethorpe’s work as “art.” So, a photo of someone fisting someone else is legitmate but a crucifix in urine isn’t?
And, Bruno… you know what you are right. There has never been any attrocity, cruelty, or abomination done in the name of Christianity. Wow, I stand corrected….oh, and the genocide of native americans didn’t take place, neither did the spanish inquisition, oh, and every locale where colonization has taken place, the natives welcomed the domination and oppression they had to endure.

corkscrewy on September 8, 2006 at 6:13 pm

I said some photography can be art. There is a creativity element to it. Fisting is not art, it’s just plain pornography. I saw a few of Maplethorpe’s pictures, not the pseudo-pornographic ones, and they seemed to be good from what I recall years ago. I can’t even remember what they were anymore, maybe flowers. I realize that art is mostly in the eye of the beholder but lets stop passing actual crap for art, i.e. Piss Christ and a man unrinating in another man’s mouth (Maplethorpe?). Like I said sculpting takes some artistic talent even if it is Rocky. What makes photography art would be a creativity, not pornography, like capturing a sunset or certain angle of a building that the ordinary eye wouldn’t necessarily notice. Bottom line it’s creativity and skill, if you don’t have those two things it’s crap.

Minnie Mouse on September 8, 2006 at 6:31 pm

Corkhead = Fucktard!

Thee_Bruno on September 9, 2006 at 9:55 am

Corkhead,
Learn about the Spanish Inquisition. It’s not what the LIBERALS (like you) would have you believe.
I don’t recall any Christian Crusaders driving out the Idians from America in the name of Christianity. However, if you feel THAT guilty about it, then why not donate your house and car to some needy Indian family, and move back to the land of your ancestors. BTW, the next time you need some medical procedure done (like surgery); don’t ride your horse to the hospital, instead, ride your horse onto an Indian reservation somewhere and ask an Indian Witch Doctor to perform some rituals to cure you.
Talk about colonialization; why not talk about all those brutal Muzlum conquests that finally led up to the First Crusade? You won’t because you’re a LIBERAL fucktard!
What a Fucktard!

Thee_Bruno on September 9, 2006 at 10:04 am

I didn’t say crusaders, I said missionaries…and look at the history of native americans in california for that one numbnuts…
as far as anscestors… my ancestors were here when yours landed and raped the land and its people.
finally…medical procedure? horse? witch doctor?
You truly are a moron…wow. ignorance is alive and well, and its name is bruno

corkscrewy on September 9, 2006 at 3:54 pm

Corkhead the Fucktard vomited in a previous post;
“oh, and the genocide of native americans didn’t take place…”
Now he’s saying that the “missionaries” pushed out the Indians and raped them. He’s really an uneducated, unintelligent Fucktard!
Like I said before, Fucktard; If you feel so guilty about living in America, then give all of your possessions (including you computer, your cars, and your home) to a needy, displaced Indian family, then move back to the land of your ancestors. And, should you need medical care, don’t walk into THE WHITE MAN’S hospital, instead, walk onto some Indian reservation and ask the resident witch doctor to perform some rituals on you.
He also vomited;
“my ancestors were here when yours landed and raped the land and its people.”
Oh really?! My ancestors raped the land and its people?! For your information, Fucktard, my ancestors immigrated here from Europe in the early 20th century and settled in NYC. Now how in the hell could they have raped your ancestors?! BTW, they also didn’t own any slaves (I know that’ll be in your next post.)
Keep posting, Fucktard, because not only do you betray your utter stupidity, but you also make a good poster boy for LIBERAL education in this country. Not only THAT, but we all need a good laugh now and then!
BWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA……….
What a Fucktard!

Thee_Bruno on September 10, 2006 at 11:57 am

Oh, so your ancestors were busy raping and pillaging everywhere else they colonized. Well, that is clearly different.
So, I am the poster boy for liberal education? And, what are you. A bill o’reilly butt boy?
next thing you know, you will put on a sheet and burn a cross you moron.

corkscrewy on September 10, 2006 at 4:34 pm

LIBERAL Fucktard!
BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA………

Thee_Bruno on September 11, 2006 at 9:42 am

And this, ladies and gentlemen would be par for the course. First try and make an argument by raising issues of islamic extremism, then insult anyone that disagrees with you. This apparently is supposed to build your sense of self esteem.
Live in fear people, that is what you are being fed every day by the current administration. All you are doing Bruno is perpetuating the current hegemonic ideology based in fear and ignorance…

corkscrewy on September 11, 2006 at 10:40 am

That’s right, Fucktard, and LOVING it!

Thee_Bruno on September 11, 2006 at 10:54 am