August 26, 2009, - 2:37 am

RIP, Mary Jo Kopechne: Ted Kennedy Dead at 77; Will His “Memorials” Include the Full Picture?

By Debbie Schlussel

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Senator Edward Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) died at age 77 from a brain tumor, apparent cancer.

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Will he get the Robert Novak revisionist history treatment (though he wasn’t the vocal HAMAS-nik and Israel-hater that Novak was, but he was bad enough on plenty of related and other stuff)?  Does his epitaph deserve to be whitewashed of Chappaquiddick and animal-like behavior a la mid-day, mid-lunch sex escapades on the table–or was it the floor?– of Washington restaurant, La Brasserie (while on a double “date” with bud Chris Dodd)?  Will anyone mention the photos of him on a yacht off the coast of the French Riviera, en flagrante delicto with some other woman in the middle of the day out in the open (marking the first and only time he supported “offshore drilling”)?

Should we forget how he got kicked out of Harvard (TWICE!) for cheating (TWICE!), and how a woman rumored to be pregnant (possibly with his kid) died in a car while he was driving it, and that he waited hours until notifying authorities (perhaps to be sure the woman was dead), then had the chutzpah to show up at her funeral?

(This behavior–when there was still some shame in America, more than a couple of decades ago–kept him from ever becoming President, his one big dream.)

You know my opinion (though I will miss mocking the man I liked to call “Club Ted”).  What’s yours?

One thing is certain:  He lived a much longer, far more enjoyable life than Mary Jo Kopechne.  And unlike her parents, he got to see his kids grow up (in between womanizing bouts) and live extensive adult lives.

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They mentioned John Dillinger’s crimes in his obits. Count how many obits for Club Ted mention Chappaquiddick. The one linked above certainly didn’t.

I predict the remembrances of Dear Old Ted will be even more bloated than he was.

Mary Jo Kopechne, Rest In Peace.

**** UPDATE: One thing I forgot to mention–and a Palm Beach reader reminded me of it–is that part of Ted Kennedy’s legacy is waking up his nephew, William Kennedy Smith, after he went to bed for the night, so the two could go carousing at the chic Club Au-Bar (now closed). You’ll recall that this led to a rape by Smith, of which he was acquitted because a good amount of the evidence was ruled out of the trial by the judge. Death and rape . . . two things Ted Kennedy had on his hands.

Sadly, I can’t think of a single thing he contributed to America (other than helping subsidize the wine and spirits industry through personal consumption). Can you?

Read more at Braunstein Speaks.

****  UPDATE #2:  My FaceBook Friend, Monorom Wu, writes:

Personally I’ll never forgiven the man for what he was leading in the withdrawal of U.S. Forces from Vietnam. His actions caused Cambodia to collapse and fall under Khmer Rouge. My parents lost half their family.

Me and especially my family have not forgotten what he did. As a result, my parents barely made it out alive, but the rest of my family was killed. At leat 2 million Cambodians were killed under the Khmer Rouge.

**** UPDATE #3: Reader David from Ohio writes:

Your comments on the passing (finally!) of that lecherous drunk were exactly what I was thinking when I first heard of this about one this morning! I have despised him since that MVA and he never
even got a wrist slap where if you or I had done the same thing, would still be in jail!

Some Catholic he was, for abortion, fornication outside of marriage, excess booze and food, yep, a real role model if there ever was one. He will get a High Mass at some Catholic church this week and nothing but praise for his “accomplishments” in his life and how much he did for the “common man”. What horse manure!

He never worked a day in his life and had the nerve to tell folks who do what they should do with their hard earned money(tax and give to the poor). Am still trying to figure out what business the USG has in telling anyone what they can pay employees. If the pay isn’t high enough, one does not work there, that simple, but then nothing the USG does is ever simple. I spent over 22 years on active duty in the USAF(55-77), survived the Cold and VN wars, and then 22 years more in the federal CS. Saw all kinds of waste.

The other lives on him are all the South Vietnamese boat people who did not make it to safety when the North Vietnamese took over the south in 1975/76. God himself only knows what horrors they endured from pirates and storms as they tried to escape, only to be butchered by the pirates and drowned by the storms. He led the way to cut funding so how many died for that decision? We will never know…………..

Heard a comment in a store today, that would he meet Mary Jo in heaven. I butted in and said he did not go up, but is hopefully in Hell, and boy, talk about some dirty looks! Not that I gave a damn.

AMEN, Dave.




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128 Responses

I doubt any one will stop to remember her in all the fulsome tributes to Uncle Ted. The Little People don’t count in Washington and aren’t even a footnote in the history books.

NormanF on August 26, 2009 at 3:07 am

That whole family from Joe Sr right on down to Teddy had the best spin teams working for them. They were not legendary by any means. They were just masters of BS with a lot of money.

Mickey on August 26, 2009 at 3:20 am

Greetings:

At the web site of the DESERET NEWS, in Salt Lake City, Utah, they did mention the incident at Chappaquidick, but just barely.

In response, I attempted to post a comment about remembering Mary Jo Kopechne, but the DESERET NEWS refused to publish it.

They’re only allowing positive and sympathetic comments about Senator Kennedy to be published.

Mox nix.

I did post my opinion on the FACEBOOK web site.

Thank you.

John Robert Mallernee
Armed Forces Retirement Home
Washington, D.C. 20011-8400

John Robert Mallernee on August 26, 2009 at 3:32 am

NEVER CARED FOR TED BUT I LIKED HIS SISTEER EUNCIE SHE DID A LOT OF THINGS DISABLED STARTING THE PALYOLYPMICS TO BAD DEBBIE IGNORED HER DEATH SHE MADE A WONDERFFUL DIFFEERENC=E TO THE LIVES OF SOMEMAANY

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL READERS TO SURPORT MY CAMPAIGNN TO GEET A ONE ON ONE IMNERVVEI8W
PLESDE

B: The thing I remember about Eunice Shriver and the Kennedy family and what they did for the mentally disabled was how they lobotomized Rosemary Kennedy merely because she had a learning disorder. I really don’t need any lecturing from anyone about “the difference” the Kennedys made for the mentally disabled. We know about the lobotomy. Wake Up. DS

bec on August 26, 2009 at 3:34 am

    You are very cute. I suggest you cut down the number of questions, prepare in advance, and I bet you get far with your request.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:32 am

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bec on August 26, 2009 at 3:54 am

Thanks for keeping it real. The dead bring ill on themselves.

Pinandpuller on August 26, 2009 at 4:08 am

When I die, if there aren’t speaking ill of me, I didn’t live my life to the fullest.

Andrew deRenzy on August 26, 2009 at 4:42 am

oh and I can’t wait for people to claim seeing his ghost, asking people to pass the “Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill”

Andrew deRenzy on August 26, 2009 at 4:43 am

FInally!

DS_ROCKS! on August 26, 2009 at 6:58 am

Good post by Debbie except for the fact she did not give him credit for plugging the right kind of holes as opposed to politicians like Mark Foley

pitman on August 26, 2009 at 7:08 am

I do not care about politicians in general. Nothing against him in particular, I just do not care

mindy abraham on August 26, 2009 at 7:21 am

I hope Teddy didn’t pack any warm clothing !!!!
(Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment)

Shootist on August 26, 2009 at 7:42 am

    I hope Teddy didn’t pack any warm clothing !!!!
    (Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment)

    Shootist on August 26, 2009 at 7:42 am

    Thanks for the chuckle! I wonder if he will meet up with Robert Novak. Teddy has a HUGE transition to make in hell from his opulent lifestyle here.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:35 am

“Offshore drilling!”…..just great

Living in Cyprus on August 26, 2009 at 7:45 am

“…Put aside your ideological differences for an appropriate moment and mark this passing with solemnity.

“There is a time and place for political analysis and criticism. Not now.” – Michelle Malkin

I say NOW MORE THAN EVER. Debbie, this post of yours is ABSOLUTELY appropriate and spot on as usual. Let’s not forget that he and the rest of the Kennedy family has been given the gift of TIME to prepare for the Senator’s death – something the Kopechne family was not afforded.

For them, 30 years later, dead is still dead.

Keep a watchful eye on Massachusetts politics in the coming months to see how replacing Kennedy is handled. My guess is that the process will be corrupt. Not exactly reaching out on a limb there…

CH: I do not take my free speech instructions from anyone . . . especially Michelle Malkin. She has a lot of nerve. The only ones who can forgive Ted Kennedy are the Kopechne family and the soul of Mary Jo Kopechne. Does anyone really believe that if Ted Kennedy drove off a bridge with Veronica Malkin, Michelle’s daughter, drowning her, not calling police for hours while he made sure she was dead, and never served jailtime for it, that she’d tell us to say only nice things about and pray for Ted Kennedy? Dream on. DS

Christopher Hayes on August 26, 2009 at 7:46 am

    Just to clarify I meant that the time for politcal analysis and criticism is EXACTLY NOW. I didn’t mean to imply that Michelle Malkin is right. She is not. I should’ve worded it much better.

    As my brother put perfectly today: “Did Mary Jo Kopechne get a moment of silence in 1969?”

    Christopher Hayes on August 26, 2009 at 11:28 pm

Sorry Teddy didn’t live to be treated by Obama Care.

A few times in my life I feel a sense of elation when a death is announced: Mao, Stalin, Paul Pot and others. Ted Kennedy is in that group.

NO ONE has assaulted the Constitution more than Kennedy, yet Leftista cheerlead how they have lost a great leader. We are better off without him.

I hope he does NOT Rest in Peace.

Frank G Zavisca on August 26, 2009 at 8:10 am

Let’s also not forget the Kennedy family’s unrepentant support of the IRA, a terrorist organization.

Michelle on August 26, 2009 at 8:20 am

    BS.

    The IRA set Ireland free. It is now a
    republic and no longer under UK control.

    Kind of reminds you of 1776.

    Moxie

    MaryHarman on August 26, 2009 at 9:27 am

Addendum on Kennedy

I confess:

As a Resident in Anesthesiology at Mass General Hospital in Boston, I voted for George McGovern and Ted Kennedy in 1972 (UGH – have I grown up since then).

But most of the voters in MA have NOT grown up – they have repeatedly re elected this clown Kennedy.

Frank G Zavisca on August 26, 2009 at 8:33 am

Can we now FINALLY hang the ‘Closed’ sign on Camelot?

Mike Rophone on August 26, 2009 at 8:49 am

In the eyes of the liberal media, his personal flaws (assuming they even think these were flaws) were outweighed by his political accomplishments. However, this assumes that his political accomplishments were good for America, a very debatable proposition. If government is now too expensive and oppressive, he shares the blame.

Bob Miller on August 26, 2009 at 8:51 am

End of Camelot? It always seemed to me that one of the clan was pulling their sword out of some stoned woman… sometimes two Kennedys from the same woman (i.e., Marilyn Monroe). I think there are plenty more within the clan to take up the cause. But I digress…

RIP Mary Jo.

It is too bad Old Ted couldn’t take all of the bills he sponsored with him (at least let them expire at the same time of his passing). What a better country this would truly be if this could happen with EVERY piece of Socialist legislation that gets passed in this country.

Keep up the Lord’s work, Debbie.

PatsPFS on August 26, 2009 at 8:52 am

Oh boy. He now gets his encounter with Mary Jo before he really reaches his final destination. He may have escaped the law of man, but he will not escape the law of the universe. Perhaps he’ll come back as a toad and start all over again…

THK on August 26, 2009 at 9:09 am

Did it ever occur to you the lack of humanity Ted Kennedy had towards his fellow man or the citizens/Constitution of the US? If this is the case, then we all should be holding candle light vigils for every murderer, mugger, rapist, socialist tyrant… need I go on?? Well, count me out. Respect is earned, not given… and this man doesn’t deserves any.

PatsPFS on August 26, 2009 at 9:10 am

Too soon….?

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2142

guitarguy on August 26, 2009 at 9:13 am

THK: “back as a toad”…I thought people came back as something DIFFERENT? LOL!

Mike Rophone on August 26, 2009 at 9:13 am

I am a fierce democrat.
However, Ted Kennedy……….well, that whole ordeal with Mary Jo Kopechne left a very, very sour taste in my mouth.
It all seemed too suspicious.
Mary Jo, submerged in a car, and Ted left her there and didn’t seek help until nine hours later.
It’s all too suspicious for me.
I mean, just look at the story!

TurnAround on August 26, 2009 at 9:13 am

Marry me, Debbie you badddd girl….”offshore drilling”?!?!?!?

Forget Michelle Malkin. The Kennedys have been a blight on America for decades, and Ted Keenedy especially.

Debbie, you rock.

Jeff_W on August 26, 2009 at 9:18 am

Debbie, you are just a stone bitch.

RIP Mr. Kennedy.

Moxie

MaryHarman on August 26, 2009 at 9:26 am

The best piece of news all morning! I hope he suffered greatly before his demise. Now if only a few others could get brain cancer.
Sadly he will be placed in saint hood by the libtards, we will probably have a holiday in his memory, and everything under the sun will be named after him. Sometimes it would be nice if death were really final.

wolf2012 on August 26, 2009 at 9:29 am

My heart goes out to Joan Kennedy, one of the “disappeared”. Her husband drove her to drink. The goal of the Kennedys – including her children – was to keep her out of the public eye. I believe she is in an institution now but am not sure. If you visit the Kennedy Museum in Hyannis, it is as if she had never existed. Very sad what happened to this beautiful woman.

JulieJ on August 26, 2009 at 9:30 am

    My heart goes out to Joan Kennedy, one of the “disappeared”. Her husband drove her to drink. The goal of the Kennedys – including her children – was to keep her out of the public eye.
    JulieJ on August 26, 2009 at 9:30 am

    No, wrong. The goal was to kill her without leaving a body, both Joan and Rose. They are very good at it.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:41 am

      I wonder if Joan will be released for the funeral. I doubt it – she would steal the spotlight from future senator Victoria Reggie Kennedy.

      JulieJ on August 26, 2009 at 3:50 pm

MaryHarman,
RIP-no I think you meant to say Rest in Hell.

wolf2012 on August 26, 2009 at 9:31 am

Coming soon, Wellstone Memorial II.

Rick on August 26, 2009 at 9:34 am

Good-bye Ted for good! And thank G-d it’s over–you did a lot of damage while you were here. Now time for your just desserts. Hallelujah!

BB on August 26, 2009 at 9:41 am

    snip you did a lot of damage while you were here. Now time for your just desserts. Hallelujah!

    BB on August 26, 2009 at 9:41 am

    I keep hearing on TV and radio how “his legacy will live on” and I answer, “Quit rubbing it in.”

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:43 am

It is not surprising that Michelle Malkin and other “conservatives” are lamenting the passing of Ted Kennedy.

This guy posed as a “Catholic” causing great scandal to the Church with his 100% pro-abortion record.

He deserves to go to hell for his leadership in the destruction of American lives and our country. Supporting abortion the way Ted Kennedy did is a mortal sin.

The “Anchoress” that Michelle linked to claims he should go to purgatory. In Catholic doctrine, purgatory is where you go temporarily (day, weeks, years) for FORGIVEN mortal sins (in other words, you have repented) in order to purge the effects of the sins for God’s justice. Purgatory is supported in the Old Testament in 2 Maccabees 12:46.

Hell is where those go who die in mortal sin. Kennedy never changed his pro-abortion position and never felt sorry for it. Thus, he deserves to go to hell.

Ted Kennedy was an evil man.

JM on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 am

    Somebody had told me that Judaism actually has Purgatory also – now I see the source.

    Alice L. on August 27, 2009 at 1:44 pm

A commenter at MM, Ignatius Reilly, had this to say:

Teddy Kennedy…the lion of the Senate…a man of thundering righteousness.

He was a child raised in luxury by his Nazi-friendly father who made a fortune in bootlegging and other shady practices and lived his life walking over other people and teaching his sons to do the same. He was thrown out of Harvard for cheating on a test, later reinstated.

The youngest Kennedy came to prominence in the shadow of his brother who “won” the presidency in the classic style of a Boston pol, using the techniques learned at his daddy’s knee…that is, in a highly controversial election with many incidences of ballot stuffing and other election fraud.

After taking his Senate seat as a prince of Camelot, young Kennedy lived a life of personal debauchery that was even greater than the shabby episodes his brother was pulling over at the White House. The Kennedy men were raised to use women as carelessly as they wished, famously resulting in the drowning of Mary Jo Kopechne, a minor problem for the Kennedy family fixers.

“Sometime around midnight, on July 18, 1969 Kennedy drove his Oldsmobile 88 off of a small bridge on Chappaquiddick island, into eight feet of chilly water. The vehicle landed upside-down. While Kennedy managed to free himself from the wreck and swim to safety, his passenger, 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne was left in the car to drown. Once he reached shore, Kennedy claims to have made seven or eight attempts to rescue Kopechne, but could not free her. Kennedy then walked back to the cottage where he and four other men, were partying with several young women known as the “Boiler Room Girls“ who had worked on Robert Kennedy‘s campaign. Though Kennedy passed by a fire station and a private home to return to the cottage, he never stopped to ask for help for the trapped Kopechne. Teddy abandoned Mary Jo to her death and tried to set up an alibi where one of his buddies would claim that he was driving Mr. Kennedy’s car that night. A convenience store clerk saw Teddy on the pay phone setting up this deal–which fell through. Teddy lost his driver’s license for a while–he was never charged with manslaughter due to being rich and politically connected. Many years after her death, it was revealed that she was approximately 3 months pregnant.”

Teddy became the alpha male of the family after the death of Bobby and helped to train a whole new generation of Kennedys that morality, fairness, decorum, and even sobriety were just for the little people. Uncle Teddy trained them all in how to live large, Kennedy style.

Meanwhile, Kennedy found that thunder with which he so often delivered his angry and righteous sermons to a racist and greedy nation. He was a great advocate for poor people, although he never actually knew any, except for the ones who shined his shoes and groomed his lawns, and he probably did not actually know their names.

The man known as the “liberal lion of the Senate” had fought a more than year-long battle with brain cancer, and according to his son had lived longer with the disease than his doctors expected him to…(Interesting. He was either using insurance purchased with his own fortune, or, his health care provided to him as a Senator, which is paid for by the government, but, is private. I wonder what would have happened if he had Medicare or that government option in Oregon.)

He was 77.


“Court is now in session. Mary Jo Kopechne’s testimony will finally be heard.”


If you ignore his betrayal of the United States, the intoxication manslaughter of Mary Jo Kopechne and susbequent coverup, his legislation to weaken immigration standards to reject skilled Europeans in favor of unskilled Third World people, his drunken sexual assaults, like the “Waitress Sandwiches” he liked to make with fellow drunk Irish-American Senator Dodd, and the cheating on his first wife, well, Ted Kennedy was a swell fellow.

We should send flowers, something in a windmill design.

SLOHomemaker on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 am

    Didn’t he pimp out Jackie with Ari? There’s NOTHING the Kennedeys won’t do.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:46 am

Well it seems many here (especially DS) love to cast stones. Oh well. I’m sure that the ones saying all these vile things will one day reap that which they sow.

I’m sure NOT A ONE OF YOU, can offer ANY (not 1 shred) of evidience that ANY Bills put forth and passed (via TK) had a negative impact on you.

Please cite REAL WORLD examples of these ideals which have “torn assunder” the fabric of this great nation.

Its a shame, some of you are probably bright and semi intelligent.

Bob on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 am

    Let’s start with one of his latest farces “No Child Left Behind”.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:48 am

      http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/06/15-9

      Here’s PROOF of the failed program NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. As a special education master school teacher, I am pained by it everyday.

      Don’t forget the “Democrats” (Teddy’s) Health “Reform” Plan…

      He will be failing from the GRAVE 🙂

      goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Bob wrote:

    “Its a shame, some of you are probably bright and semi intelligent.”

    I make no claim to be the brightest bulb in the box, but I am not as dumb as a box of rocks.

    Bob also wrote: “I’m sure NOT A ONE OF YOU, can offer ANY (not 1 shred) of evidience that ANY Bills put forth and passed (via TK) had a negative impact on you.”

    Here’s a few examples:

    1) Kennedy championed bilingual education through the Bilingual Education Act of 1968. The Act required schools to offer bilingual education programs.
    – I don’t think I need to expound on that one.

    2) In 1983 Senator Kennedy become a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He strongly supported nuclear arms control and opposed the Star Wars Program to expand the nuclear arms race into space.
    – Anyone remember Ronald Reagan?

    3) In 2005, Kennedy began a four-year effort to achieve comprehensive immigration reform, including a legalization program for immigrants.
    – Yeah, let’s allow all these law breaking illegal aliens become naturalized citizens.

    4) He was Un-American for being absolutely against the war on terror. A quote from Kennedy “Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam’s torture chambers reopened under new management: US management.”
    – Yeah, what a great American.

    5) He voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration.
    – I wonder how much he loved seeing terrorists burning our flag

    6) He voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.
    – Marriage is between a man and a woman, period.

    7) Gradings given to Kennedy by group:
    a) American Civil Liberties Union gives him an 84 percent lifetime score as of 2009
    b) During the 1990s and 2000s, NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood typically gave Kennedy ratings of 100 percent
    c) National Right to Life Committee typically gave him a rating of less than 10 percent
    d) The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence gave Kennedy a lifetime rating of 100 percent through 2002
    e) The NRA (National Rifle Association) gave Kennedy a lifetime grade of ‘F’ (failing) as of 2006

    I could go on and on, but I would need weeks to compile all of the liberal, commie, Un-American positions that he had that he tried to force upon us. And YES, all of these items show how much of a negative impact Ted Kennedy had on our lives.

    Jarhead on August 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Amnesty Bill called “immigration” legislation allowing muzzies to stay and kill us. Sponsored along with Rino McCain.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 4:08 pm

It’s about time.

Andy on August 26, 2009 at 10:12 am

Died of cancer? He was a cancer. Tie on a few extra masts
and unfurl the flag to the grateful heavens!

Sorry, Michelle!

demonneant on August 26, 2009 at 10:14 am

Good riddance. He and his family were and still are a high society bunch of snobs and degenerates. Teddy was lower than whale sh#t. He was a murderer, traitor to the U.S., and just an all around liberal political weasel. His sponsoring of many leftist bills has eroded our society to its current cesspool. His leftist, socialist, corrupt ways should not be applauded.

I just hope there is no day of mourning or flying of flags at half staff.

Jarhead on August 26, 2009 at 10:47 am

What does it say about your soul when you speak so poorly of the dead?

Annie Riggs on August 26, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Whats does it say about us when we praise a man who would leave a woman to die a cold lonely death?

    What does it say about us when we pat such a man on the back?

    guitarguy on August 26, 2009 at 11:16 am

      May I add that DROWNING IS A VERY PAINFUL DEATH.

      goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 1:17 pm

*What does it say about your soul when you speak so poorly of the dead?

Annie Riggs on August 26, 2009 at 11:07 am*

Are you talking about Ted Kennedy? Or about Mary Jo Kopechne? Or the hundreds of millions who have been killed through abortion that the “Catholic” used his legislative power and judicial appointments to support? Debbie doesn’t seem to be saying anything bad about the dead victim, just the murderer who got away with it.

I guess with your logic we’re never allowed to say anything bad about murderers who have died.

JM on August 26, 2009 at 11:22 am

i said it before and i will say it again. the only good kennedy is a dead kennedy.

slickwilliejihad on August 26, 2009 at 11:31 am

That family has definitely had their share of loss.

I wonder if Mary Jo’s family will make a statement. How do you leave someone under water to cover your own ass is beyond me.

sharon on August 26, 2009 at 11:40 am

Count on me for the Biblical viewpoint. It’s like this (because He says so, not I).

The problems come from “the father”. We know that Joe was a Nazi-lover and dealt in bootleg. God will curse those who curse Israel. That’s you, Joey. And, the sins of the father fall to the “third generation”. Well, that hits his grandkids and I recall some pretty bad grandkids (murder, rape, dope, etc. Remember the Moxley murder?) Apple, tree, you know.

I always liked the idea of killing the entire bloodline. They actually lived miserable lives (honest money from God maketh rich and addith no sorrow, blood money makes for lots of sorrow). It’s the ONLY WAY it could be. None of them were able to break the generation curse brought on them by their own father. They are ALL BAD SEEDS.

goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 11:54 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Skakel

    This is Bobby’s widow’s offspring (Ethyl, another one left dead without a body, drowning in booze)…. God is thorough.

    My heart was broken for decades while Mrs. Moxley sought justice for her daughter… Just like Mary Jo… only child (I guess they “settled” with a nondisclosure clause because we never heard from them and they may have passed on by now.)

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy

    If wiki documents it, it’s pretty “mainstream”. Folks, the best thing you can do for yourself and your family is befriend Jews.

    Anti-Semitism

    Kennedy was (for a while) a close friend with the leading Jewish lawyer Felix Frankfurter, who helped Kennedy get his sons into the London School of Economics, where they worked with Harold Laski, a leading Jewish intellectual and prominent Socialist.[15] While holding positive attitudes towards individual Jews, Kennedy’s views of the Jews as a people were, by his own admission, overwhelmingly negative.

    According to Harvey Klemmer, who served as one of Kennedy’s embassy aides, Kennedy habitually referred to Jews as “kikes or sheenies.” Kennedy allegedly told Klemmer that “[some] individual Jews are all right, Harvey, but as a race they stink. They spoil everything they touch.”[12] When Klemmer returned from a trip to Germany and reported the pattern of vandalism and assault on Jews by Nazis, Kennedy responded, “Well, they brought it on themselves.”[16]

    On June 13, 1938, Kennedy met with Herbert von Dirksen, the German ambassador in London, who claimed in Berlin that Kennedy had told him that “it was not so much the fact that we want to get rid of the Jews that was so harmful to us, but rather the loud clamor with which we accompanied this purpose. [Kennedy] himself fully understood our Jewish policy.”[17] Kennedy’s main concern with such violent acts against German Jews as Kristallnacht was that they generated bad publicity in the West for the Nazi regime, a concern he communicated in a letter to Charles Lindbergh.[18]

    Kennedy had a close friendship with Nancy Astor; the correspondence between them is reportedly replete with anti-Semitic tropes.[19] As Edward Renehan notes:

    As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these “world problems” (Nancy’s phrase)…. Kennedy replied that he expected the “Jew media” in the United States to become a problem, that “Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles” were already making noises contrived to “set a match to the fuse of the world.”[20]
    By August 1940, Kennedy worried that a third term for Roosevelt meant war; as Leamer reports, “Joe believed that Roosevelt, Churchill, the Jews and their allies would manipulate America into approaching Armageddon.”[21] Nevertheless, Kennedy supported Roosevelt’s third term in return for Roosevelt’s support of Joseph Kennedy Jr. for Governor of Massachusetts in 1942. [22] Even during the height of the conflict, however, Kennedy remained “more wary of” prominent American Jews such as Felix Frankfurter than he was of Hitler.[23]

    Kennedy told reporter Joe Dinneen:

    It is true that I have a low opinion of some Jews in public office and in private life. That does not mean that I… believe they should be wiped off the face of the earth… Jews who take an unfair advantage of the fact that theirs is a persecuted race do not help much… Publicizing unjust attacks upon the Jews may help to cure the injustice, but continually publicizing the whole problem only serves to keep it alive in the public mind.
    When Dinneen wrote The Kennedy Family, he was pressured to remove these quotations from the book by John F. Kennedy himself. Dineen complied.[24]

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Because of Uncle Ted and the American with Disabilities Act we all know have the right to be crazy in America and protected by law. Seems a fitting legacy for a career politician.

JohN HENRY on August 26, 2009 at 12:31 pm

He can do no more harm to this great country.

Newblood on August 26, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Debbie, could you elaborate on the Harvard expulsions? I was aware of one for cheating, but not the second. Could you tell us more?

K: The first time, he got caught cheating. The second time, he paid someone else to cheat for him. DS

Kelly on August 26, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Kelly, you’re cracking me UP.

    What’s the difference? He lies, cheats, and steals. Details? Too numerous to expound upon.

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 1:10 pm

I haven’t forgotten any of what you have posted Debbie regarding the Lyin’ of the Senate….the SRM has, as they always have, look the other way is their motto, as long as it is leftist.

I’m sick of hearing what I’ve heard already…although knew the msm would be this way, along with the congress-critters…using TeddyCare will be their next attempt to cram this shite down our throats.

The man should have done time, long ago…along with the majority of the rest of his family…starting from way back…Joe Sr. is a good start.

Diamond Girl on August 26, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    starting from way back…Joe Sr. is a good start.
    Diamond Girl on August 26, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    *****You have swerved into an eternal truth! The root cause is Joey’s Nazi loving and bootlegging ways.

    Do you really expect his family tree to be BLESSED?

    GM: As my late Holocaust survivor grandfather used to say, the Kennedy family is cursed b/c Joseph Kennedy (Club Ted’s dad) had 5,000 visas the Brits gave him to get Jews out of Nazi Europe. Since he hated Jews, he threw them away and let 5,000 lives he could have saved die. DS

    goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 1:14 pm

      Your late Holocaust survivor grandfather was a very wise man. I would add that many Jews in boats floated in boats onto England’s shore, but England would only allow 5,000 per month to enter. So England refused them entry… You can take the Great out of Great Britain since WW II.

      Does anyone really think God rewards people who harm His chosen people? God takes it to the third generation. You can see the suffering of Joseph Patrick Kennedy’s grandchild TO THIS DAY.

      goldenmike4393 on August 26, 2009 at 2:55 pm

      Joe Kennedy Sr. – a terrible fascist sympathizing person. His oldest son, Joseph, was also sympathetic to the fascists. Somebody joked that JFK’s book “While England Slept” should have been called “While Daddy Slept”.

      JulieJ on August 26, 2009 at 3:53 pm

“The torture chambers of Saddam have reopened…under American management”

Oh happy day. The liquor sponge is worm food.

Bill P. on August 26, 2009 at 1:10 pm

You nailed the headline perfect Debbie !!
My liberal friends are fluming at me when I said Obama Care died with Teddy today.

Jonny on August 26, 2009 at 1:17 pm

The shallow Right says this is no time for partisanship. I wonder what happened. After their disgusting defense of Robert Novak – they feel solicitous of Uncle Ted. I’d say with them the one thing that now connects the two cases is evil takes a holiday. We’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead cause that would hurt someone’s feelings. The deceased’s family? No – all the people he hurt in life must go and remain out of sight. What is good for a Democrat ought to be equally good for a Republican and vice versa. That’s the kind of rising above our differences we don’t need for sure in this country.

NormanF on August 26, 2009 at 2:20 pm

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