Islam – the religion of 7th century barbarians.

Thee_Bruno on November 1, 2005 at 3:13 pm

Suffice to say, he won’t be stealing anymore. Barbaric Fucks!

KOAJaps on November 1, 2005 at 3:22 pm

Next time he’s caught, he can try to rape one of the little girls near him. They’ll then be so busy trying to stone her that he’ll be able to slip away.

Blayne on November 1, 2005 at 3:58 pm

And the left calls Christians intolerant thugs while ignoring this kind of thing in the islamic world. They choose (as you have often noted) to selectively see only the opposite side of the coin.

Uncle Tim on November 1, 2005 at 7:19 pm

Blayne, that was one of the funniest damn comments I’ve ever heard. Gold star.

Preston Taylor Holmes on November 1, 2005 at 8:14 pm

Just blame his poverty on Israel or the West.Seems to fit everything.Then send him off to terror training camp ,He’ll be a good follower of Islam yet! He’ll get a good job in Gaza or here in america, in a soon to be active sleeper cell.Praise be Allah, Allah be Praised

danny on November 1, 2005 at 8:16 pm

I don’t quite understand how the actions of a bunch of Iranians translate to the Islamic religion, if someone over here drowns their kids please inform me which religion I have to condemn for that action

John Miles on November 2, 2005 at 9:08 am

If you don’t understand how the actions of a bunch of Iranians translates into Islam, then you don’t know anything about Islam.
Islam, via the Qur’ an and Sharia Law (Islamic Law), dictates very specific penalties for specific crimes. Unlike in the U.S., there is no distinction between Church and State in Muslim countries. Under Islam, the “Church” is the “State”.
Unlike the U.S., there is no such concept of civil law and crimal law. Islamic Law reigns supreme because it is the product of Islam.
Have you ever heard of “honor killings”? That’s a penalty imposed on women (usually by stoning) for the “crime” of being a rape victim. The supposed “rationale” for this is that the victim has dishonored the family for being raped. You can read about it in the Qur’ an. Can you believe such lunacy still exists in the 21st century?! I can’t either, but it’s practiced by the practitioners of the Religion of Peace all the time.
As for the pictures of the boy’s arm being crushed by the car;
A. Did you notice that there weren’t any medical personnel on standby (if they were there, they weren’t in the picture, yet they allowed this to happen)?
B. Did you notice the crowd standing around to watch this barbarism?
Welcome to Islam – the Religion of Peace.

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 9:39 am

Can you even read? Read the comments on the site and you will see that this is NOT a punishment. This boy did NOT steal any “bread” – it’s a staged event. Clear from your eyes the fog of hatred toward Islam and perhaps you’ll be able to stop yourself from publishing more BS on the net. You owe your readers an apology for your sloppiness.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 10:20 am

The comments you are referring to, are just that – “readers’ comments”. Those are the comments from two or three posters who are apologists for this type of barbaric Islamic practice – just as what you are doing. Except for those readers’ comments, nowhere on the site does it say that it is staged.
As for anyone’s “hatred toward Islam”, as you put it, well, it’s not hatred at all. Muslims (and their apologists) always scream “hatred toward Islam” or “Islamophobia” whenever anyone speaks the truth about how barbaric Islam is. In fact, anyone who does so is often the object of a fatwah (death decree). Ever hear of Salman Rushdie? Why, of course you have. 😉
Anyone who wants to see what Islam proscribes for stealing, go to;
http://www.victoryscent.co.uk/cutting_hands_for_theft.htm
It has all of the details as proscribed under Islam – the Religion of Peace.

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 10:53 am

Thee Bruno, it is true that Islam prescribes inhuman punishments. But why gild the lily? The truth is harsh enough – Ms. Schlussel does her credibility and her readers a disservice by blindly passing as “fact” what is clearly fiction. What IS done in the name is Islam is bad enough – there is no need, and it is clearly irresponsible, to post false items. What is going on in these pictures has nothing to do with Islam.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 11:25 am

Islam was founded on the edge of a sword…the PC sanctification of it doesn’t fly in the face of historical fact.

EminemsRevenge on November 2, 2005 at 11:50 am

Nellicat:
I’ve seen nothing to indicate this isn’t true. In fact, all indications are that it is. This is everyday life in Iran under its brutal, totalitarian Shia Islamist regime. Read some books about what goes on in Iran. Oh, and I’m sure you forgot that in Saudi and other Islamic countries, stealing leads to dismemberment of the hand, etc.
Thou doth protest too much. Your claims that this is a staged event, etc. are just that–like all the other denials, sanitizations, and justifications we hear day in and day out, such as:
* Belal Simjee didn’t send the hate e-mail; someone “stole” his e-mail address;
* Religion of Peace;
* “I’m only stripping ’til I can earn enough $ to pay for college;”
* “The dog ate my homework;”
etc., etc., etc. ad nauseam.
Debbie Schlussel

Debbie Schlussel on November 2, 2005 at 11:55 am

Again, I’m NOT apologizing or sanitizing the brutal punishments sometimes meted out by Islamic law. What I’m saying is that THIS AIN’T IT. This is a staged event – it’s actually quite obvious. The “loaf of bread” story is fiction – and pretty hackneyed fiction, at that. It doesn’t take a lot of investigative vigor to see that this is a staged event. Say what you want about Islam, but don’t pass on urban legend as fact. It’s embarassing, or at least it should be.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 12:10 pm

nellicat,
Aside from your “belief” that the event was staged, what definitive proof do you have to indicate so? In my estimation, the kid looks real, his arm looks real, the car looks real, the tire is obviously in motion by looking at the tire treads frame by frame, and the look of agony on his face looks real.
And, if it WAS staged, then who staged it, how did they stage it, and for what reason?
Furthermore, you say that “the “loaf of bread” story is fiction – and pretty hackneyed fiction, at that”. Well, then, let me ask you another question – if this was not punishment for stealing a loaf of bread, then what offense, in your mind, would warrant putting a kid’s arm underneath a rolling car? Stealing money? Throwing a brick through a window? No matter how you slice it, and no matter how deep you want to put your head in the sand, this is an everyday occurrence in the Muslim world.

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 3:09 pm

It was staged as street performance. To raise money. Exploitation of a child? Yes. Despicable? Yes. So your questions of “what offense would warrant this punishment?” is moot. It is not a punishment. It is not related to Islam. It is street performance, pure and simple.
Again, the truth is harsh enough. It is horrible that Islamic law calls for barbaric punishment. It is horrible that this “father” or whomever is abusing this child to make some cash. But don’t post an apocryphal story about a boy being punished for stealing bread – it just makes you look like an idiot.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 4:13 pm

OK, so now that Bareknucklepolitics has issued a retraction and an apology, I expect no less from Ms. Schlussel. For someone who chides others for “sloppy journalism,” she has some ‘splaining to do.
And yes, I DO understand that Islam has some barbaric practices. I am no apologist for radical Islam. I am, however, adept at sniffing out BS, and this whole “stolen loaf of bread” story had BS all over it.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 4:24 pm

There was no retraction and apology from the website you mention. It was just an elaboration of what the photos depicted. However, the “explanation” was from the news source that took the pics. Their “explanation” might just be the type of “explanations” that al-Jazeera uses when they get their turbans caught in the cookie jar – fabrications to whitewash the truth.
I think they originally published those photos not realizing the public backlash and now they’re “explaining” what “really” happened.
It’s amazing that you were able to spot that event as “staged”, yet you couldn’t come up with any eveidence to support your claim.
Yes, you ARE an apologist.
Lastly, you say that you aren’t an apologist for the brutal practices of radical Islamists – well, this might come as a shock to you, but those “barbaric practices” (as you put it) come straight from the Qur’ an AND Sharia Law. So, if you’re saying that the Qur’ an and Sharia Law are radical, then what do you think all those “moderate Muslims” are practicing? After all, they’re all reading from the same playbook.
So, you ARE an apologist for Islam, pure and simple.
Next, you’ll be telling us that the televised footage of the WTC towers collapsing was a “staged” event.

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 4:49 pm

1) I did not REPORT this, so it’s hardly “sloppy journalism.” I verify everything I write. I linked to another website in this post and did not say I verified it or that it was fact. What is fact is the brutal way innocents–kids and adults–are treated every day throughout the Islamic world. That’s what makes this story so credible.
2) So the boy didn’t get this as punishment for stealing bread, but did it to get bread. Gee, that’s so much more humane. NOT. Countries where kids get their arms run over to eat bread. Remind me NOT to visit.
Debbie Schlussel

Debbie Schlussel on November 2, 2005 at 4:52 pm

The nightmares they’ll put you through for bread

Check out what the cannibals of Iran did to an 8-year-old because he wanted food to eat. (H/T: Debbie Schlussel and Euphoric Reality.) All done in the name of the religion of piss, which also approves of child abuse as even a condition for earning me…

Tel-Chai Nation on November 2, 2005 at 5:19 pm

I don’t believe their story that this was done so the kid could get some bread. What society would do this to their children in order for them to eat bread? Is this some kind of perverted Islamic form of “The Apprentice”? No way! Come on! This is the way things are done in that backward culture called, Islam.
If that was the case, gee, what would this kid do for for a roast beef? What would he do for a pair of jeans?
No way! This was punishment that’s meted out every day in the Muslim world (remember the caning of the teenager who sprayed some cars with graffiti in Singapore a few years back?)
This is Islam – The Religion of Peace! LMfAO!!!
And you Liberal apologists eat these lies up with a spoon!

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 9:20 pm

You really are pretty thick, thee bruno. It’s a TRICK – a street theater piece. Other writers have noted that the towel is probably hiding some divot or hole in the street – the boy’s arm is not broken or crushed in this trick.
Oh, and as far as not visiting a country where a child would be exploited for food – um, ever been to California? Ever see the migrant labor families? Yes, children even younger than this boy breathing in pesticides, working back-breaking labor, to earn $$ for their families.
Bottom line: this has nothing to do with Islam.

nellicat on November 2, 2005 at 9:30 pm

Got to agree with Nellicat on this one. I’m no Islamic appologist and I’m completely aware of how brutal Islmaic culture can be, but for everyone to assume these pictures are potraying punishment is assuming too much. Still pictures like this do not commnicate enough. Its pretty disgusting that someone puts a child through something like this and can you imagine what was going through their mind the very FIRST time they thought this was something worth doing (Assuming this isnt the first time). Nevertheless, based on the pictures provided and lack of information about this ‘event’ I think its naive for anyone to make assumptions on what is happening here.
Now, let me see the before and after video and then we can make better judgements.

Avatar on November 2, 2005 at 9:48 pm

Dear Nethercat,
Thank you. You’ve finally revealed to us, as a “magician”, how those Muslims “pulled it off” (“It’s a TRICK – a street theater piece. Other writers have noted that the towel is probably hiding some divot or hole in the street – the boy’s arm is not broken or crushed in this trick”). Wow, now I know how David Copperfield was able to perfect his art – by spending years in Iran learning at the hands of Iranian Muslims practicing their craft of running over little boys’ arms so that he can get to eat a loaf of bread.
Now, I’ve seen David Copperfield perform some really amazing acts; i.e., making the Statue of Liberty disappear. However, that pales in comparison to the “trick” (as you put it) that the practitioners of the Religion of Peace performed when they ran over that little boy’s arm. Not only did he emerge from that “trick”, but he was able to run a marathon, swin 12 miles in the Persian Gulf, bicycle ride 15 more miles and, then arrive home with 12 loaves of bread tucked under his arm!!! Amazing!!!!!! Does David Copperfield have your resume on file?
Is this the proof you have to offer after all of my repeated requests? If so, you better go back to pulling rabbits out of your ass!

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 10:04 pm

Dear Avatar,
It’s only Wednesday night. Usually, people in America wait until Friday night to party.

Thee_Bruno on November 2, 2005 at 10:06 pm

Big deal, this is the life the Iranians choose to follow. If you steal, you get your hands ran over. The photos are disgusting but it’s important to see how the others think. That’s why I feel that Iraq will be a loooooooooong war, because the leaders are willing to sacrifice their own.

KOAJaps on November 2, 2005 at 11:04 pm

Three_Bruno
Sorry, I’m an alchoholic and I dont need to wait till Friday night. But even as an alchoholic, I can be objective enough to look at a few still photos to know that what I may be looking as is a cheap parlor trick or freak show.

Avatar on November 3, 2005 at 12:44 am

No, you are not being objective. You already made up your mind that this was staged.
I love Liberals like Avatar & Nethercat – even after the Islamic news agency that took those photos ADMITTED THAT THEY WERE, IN FACT, REAL (albeit it was done so the kid could get a loaf of bread, which, of course, is a lie) they still say it was a trick.
This is the same pathology, the same denials that we heard from the Left all during the Cold War. We won that war, but now the Left have found their new ally – Islam.

Thee_Bruno on November 3, 2005 at 9:40 am

Three Bruno
A) I’m not liberal. Which just goes to show how you easily jump to conclusions about so little information. I.E. this topic.
B) One of the keys to being objective is taking in the facts first before making a decision. You made up your decision about this event before taking in the facts. I did not. Based on looking at the photos, there is no conclusive evidence this was for punishment. I’ve said that before and say it now and as you so valiantly pointed out, the sources are saying it isnt. Yet, you believe it was and still do despite any contrary evidence. Go back to the original link this post refers to. There are posts (including the original) that suggest this was not for punishment. Whether its a lie or not, YOU just have to jump right back on the punishment bandwagon and your only reason for doing do is because of islam’s cleary historic barbaric culturalism which I already acknowleged exists.
You said “even after the Islamic news agency that took those photos ADMITTED THAT THEY WERE, IN FACT, REAL (albeit it was done so the kid could get a loaf of bread, which, of course, is a lie)”
And you have proof of this right? It has to be for punishment. These pictures must clearly commnicate punishment, not for raising money?
I’m sure you can find some photos on the internet of some American freak show performers who lie to show off hanging 20 lb. weights from their penis to make money. i suppose if I post those on the internet, some people who jump to conclusions (This means you) should assume it some sort of American punishment for rapists.
no one is denying this little boys arm was’t run over. But you can’t assume it was for punishment. espcially when there is no TRUE evidence to suggest the motivations behind what is happening in these photos.

Avatar on November 3, 2005 at 11:42 am

PS…
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008815.php
Thank you and have a nice day…

Avatar on November 3, 2005 at 11:56 am

Avatar
“I’m not liberal. Which just goes to show how you easily jump to conclusions about so little information. I.E. this topic.”
Liberals always start off with, “I’m not a liberal”, when you identify them as such.
“Go back to the original link this post refers to. There are posts (including the original) that suggest this was not for punishment.”
When this story was first posted on that website, it indicated that it was punishment for stealing bread. Only after the news agency that took the pics said that it was not punishment, did the site then indicate so.
“And you have proof of this right? It has to be for punishment.”
In Islam, there is the concept of what is known as the “Legal Lie”. It is found in the Qur’ an and its essence is that Muslims can lie (even about Islam, itself) to the infidel if it can advance the cause of Islam. Therefore, how many times have these Islamic barbarians lied, twisted the truth, etc., throughout history when it’s convenient for them to do so. You see, Avatar, I’m not as open-minded (gullible) as you are when it comes to the tactics these people employ. Additionally, when your old ally, the Soviet Union, existed back in the “good old days”, did you believe EVERYTHING that Pravda published? Do you believe everything that al-Jazeera broadcasts? You may be that “open-minded”, but I’m not. THAT is my proof!
“These pictures must clearly commnicate punishment, not for raising money?”
Gee, haven’t they ever heard of a bake sale or selling raffles to raise money?
You’re really very “open-minded”, aren’t you?
“http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008815.php“
I’m very familiar with Jihadwatch.org
“I’m sure you can find some photos on the internet of some American freak show performers who lie to show off hanging 20 lb. weights from their penis to make money. i suppose if I post those on the internet, some people who jump to conclusions (This means you) should assume it some sort of American punishment for rapists.”
Very interesting observation. Are you bragging about your prowess? Have you tried using more weight? What digital camera do you find works best for these types of pics?

Thee_Bruno on November 3, 2005 at 12:24 pm

Debbie, what exactly do you mean when you write “Either way, it’s sad and disgusting and a strong statement about life in Islamist Iran.”?
Here, in our own country, young children are put to work in dangerous conditions. Migrant worker families breathe in pesticides, climb trees & ladder, work for HOURS stooped & bent in the hot sun. . . This is life for SOME kids right here in “Judeo-Christian USA.” Sad and disgusting, indeed.
In some Asian countries, young girls are sold into prostitution because their parents cannot afford to keep them at home. Again, sad and disgusting. How does that compare to “life in Islamist Iran?”
What does Islam have to do with this?

nellicat on November 3, 2005 at 5:53 pm

Nethercat,
You painted a really grim picture about how migrant workers and their children have to endure the brutal conditions of life in “Judeo-Christian USA.” Breathing in pesticides, laboring for “HOURS” stooped bent in the hot sun, climbing trees and ladders. It’s truly a nightmare, isn’t it? How despicable we Jews and Christians are to force all these people to come here to toil in the bowels of the Earth so that we can kick back and relax.
Now for a reality check: Have you noticed the waves of illegal aliens who’ve invaded this country over the last 20 years, literally sacrificing their lives to get here so that they can work under all of those “brutal” conditions that you describe? Did we force these invaders to come here, or did they violate our laws to do so?
Have you noticed how these tens of millions of invaders have come here to suckle at the nipple of the American taxpayer?
If life in America is so bad, then why don’t these millions of illegal aliens invade all of those wonderful Islamic countries that you’re so fond of?
Also, why do we have entire cities in this country taken over by Muslims, i.e. Detroit, MI; Jersey City, NJ; Patterson, NJ; Dearborn, MI; etc., (England, France, Germany, Holland, etc., are also experiencing their own invasions of Muslims) if life was so grand in their countries of origin?
Nethercat, do yourself and the rest of us a favor – cancel your AOL account immediately.

Thee_Bruno on November 3, 2005 at 8:56 pm

Ah, Bruno. You make this so easy. Yes, I agree that Mexicans and others flock to this country because they are poor. Their country has little to offer them, and America has much to offer. Oh, wait! What is the predominant religion in Mexico? Oh yes! Catholicism. So, you would agree, then, the tragic images of poor children being worked, even exploited by their parents would be “sad and disgusting and a strong statement about life in Catholic Mexico.”

nellicat on November 3, 2005 at 9:37 pm

Nethercat,
You condemn Catholicism for the standard of living in Mexico but, if you knew anything at all about politics and political regimes, you would have already been aware that Mexico is a SOCIALIST country. It is SOCIALISM, and NOT Catholicism, that is responsible for the poverty and despair in that country.
Haven’t you learned anything from your public school education?! It is Socialism, and Communism, and other Totalitarian societies (like Islam) that are responsible for the poverty and despair in their countries. NOT Capitalism, and NOT Catholicism!
During the Cold War, Poland (as were other Catholic/Christian countries that were enveloped in the Iron Curtain) was a Catholic country. However, it was Communism that relegated it to an existence of poverty and despair. Even non-Christian countries, such as the USSR, were economic basketcases. So, you could say that Mexico is a modern-day Poland trapped in a truly corrupt and dysfunctional Socialist society. If Mexico was a Capitalist society, its residents wouldn’t be flocking, en droves, to the U.S.
But, wait! There’s more!
It was Catholicism, under free societies, that built Western culture and Western Civilization. It was Catholicism that allows you to live in freedom rather than living under a Totalitarian regime called, Islam. It was Catholicism that allows you to wear the clothes you wear, rather than the required mode of dress for women in Muslim countries – the burqa (or a form of it)
Why don’t you pick up this book;
How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization by Thomas E. Woods Jr.,
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895260387/104-0267294-9221527?v=glance
Educate yourself about history instead of lying on your couch, with a fist full of Doritos, and tuning into Oprah and Jerry Springer. Get off that couch, forget about Dunkin Donuts, and do some reading.
You could also borrow it from your library – FREE!
Think about it, Nethercat…what has Islam contributed to the world since it was invented by a demon-obsessed, pedophile called, Muhammad?
Answer: Nothing, except relegating its followers to a life of subjugation, submission, envy, poverty, misery, and despair – just like Socialism and Communism.
Say what you will about Catholicism – but Catholicism was responsible for building Western Civilzation, it was responsible for the breakthroughs in science, medicine, and the industrial revolution that we enjoy today. Why, it was even responsible for the Internet!!
Please, do yourself, and everybody else a favor who uses the Internet – cancel your AOL account today!

Thee_Bruno on November 3, 2005 at 10:25 pm

Bruno, Bruno, Bruno. YOu are being purposely obtuse. I’m done with you, except to say that your assumptions are so far off the mark, they are amusing. I am the recipient of 12 years of Catholic education; I know well the history, for good and evil, of the Church. Enough said. Keep watching Fox, keep swallowing BS, keep jumping wildly to unsubstantiated conclusions. YOu’ll feel better, and it will keep the streets safe for the rest of us.

nellicat on November 4, 2005 at 9:31 am

“… I know well the history, for good and evil, of the Church.”
How can the Church be good AND evil? Being evil negates being good.
Can you cite any examples of how the Church is evil?
Do you know what you are talking about?
Judging from your comments on this thread, it’s obvious that you’ve got some problems with Catholicism.
Don’t go away mad…just go away.

Thee_Bruno on November 4, 2005 at 11:41 am

Pssst . . . Bruno . . . Ever hear of the Inquisition?

nellicat on November 4, 2005 at 12:28 pm

Damm , I left this shit yesterday knowing this thread was over and now I see Bruno still going at it to get in the last word. how sad. Forget about it Nell, Bruno only see Life in Black or White. Never both as he’s indicated above and never an in between. You can’t have any logical kind of discussion with anyone who thinks like that.

Avatar on November 4, 2005 at 2:14 pm

I’m a liberal…oops, and Iran sucks

KOAJaps on November 8, 2005 at 12:02 pm

I’m glad you’re back, Avatar. How are the “workouts” going? Are you up to 25 lbs. yet?
Nethercat, as usual, you’re wrong, yet again.
“…new and startling information is beginning to blow away the dark
cobwebs of lies and myths-that racist distortion of the Spanish national character and
and Hispanic culture. On June 9th, 1995, the BBC documentary, was aired on . TV often trashes the Church,
but not this time. Spanish scholars using computerized searches through the actual
records left by the officers of the Inquisition are showing that the Inquisition had
neither the power nor the desire to put Spain under its control.”
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/SPANINQ.TXT
Nethercat, you should burn your Baptism Certificate, convert to Islam, don a burqa, and prepare to live life as a subservient non-entity.

Thee_Bruno on November 9, 2005 at 9:51 am

You are all the most biggest followers of FICTION on earth>
It just goes to show you that it takes ONE person to make a FAKE video or email to make you believe the WRONG thing.
The kid is a street performer *sighs*
It’s a MAGIC trick.
Read this morons.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushboy.asp
WHO DIED AND MADE SNOPES THE GOSPEL? I HAVE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES ON THIS VERY SITE IN WHICH SNOPES IS FLAT-OUT WRONG. GET A CLUE.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

amnesia on March 31, 2006 at 5:09 pm

What has Islam contributed for the world? Well, it’s a shame this isn’t taught in our schools but enjoy…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists

ultimate warrior on October 28, 2010 at 7:50 am