I suspect that the Malaysian government is not divulging everything they know. Some elements of their government or military might be complicit in this, which would be highly embarrassing to Kuala Lumpur.

Worry on March 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm

Here is an update: https://twitter.com/GuardianUS/status/444221681734021120/photo/1

Worry on March 13, 2014 at 5:28 pm

Even refueled to capacity, it’s range is limited (a range of 5,235 to 9,380 nautical miles ). And not easy to “hide” (it is the world’s largest twinjet). At this point, it has the plot of a Twilight Zone episode.

Dale Zalaoras on March 13, 2014 at 5:33 pm

I don’t think the muslims would have the wherewithal or cooperation of all of the parties needed to hijack and hide the plane for future use, but I cede that it’s possible.

My guess is the same as before; muslim terrorists (of the same ilk as the muslim terrorist attack at the train station in China) broke into the cabin in an attempt to overpower the crew and hijack the plane a la 9/11 and either ransom the Chinese on board or attack a Chinese target, but something went awry and they plunged into the ocean.

DS_ROCKS! on March 13, 2014 at 5:44 pm

I think it went down.
There’s reports that a New Zealand oil rig worker saw it in flames before it went down. Sounds genuine.
Plane harvesting is an interesting theory though.

Frankz on March 13, 2014 at 6:14 pm

Another possibility– Someone may have been after the cargo? Gold? Drugs? An elaborate heist?

blasater on March 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm

Yes…I must admit I thought the same after 4 days of searching without any signs of debris…too many eyes watching …also terrorism seems to continually attempt to increase the magnitude of the atrocity of its actions….hijacked plane (with innocent passengers) to be used as a missile, perhaps carrying a nuke…that would certainly up the ante..naw, just in the movies…we have this covered, dont we ??

HK on March 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm

This all reminds me of something that might happen in the old TV mystery series ‘Banacek’…

Nick Fury on March 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm

I find it too coincidental that the plane disappeared from radar exactly when the plane had just left Malaysian air space. Someone had to have waited until that moment to turn the radar off and turn the plane around. Also, why would the plane be flying for several hours afterwards? If it were a suicide bomber, they would blow it up right when they would have the chance, not wait several hours.

I agree with the theory that someone hijacked the plane and landed it in Somalia, Yemen, Iran, or Pakistan.

John M on March 13, 2014 at 6:50 pm

I posted this on your 1st blog post re: MH370, before The White House stated they will search the Indian Ocean.
Am posting it again for those who missed it as it is the most likely explanation, especially now that Americans will be searching the Indian Ocean.
And it explains why Malaysia Airlines has been doing their best NOT to find the plane.

It’s most likely AIR DECOMPRESSION.
All airlines were warned of the Boeing fault.
Malaysia Airlines opted out of Boeing maintenance service.
The pilot likely turned the plane to go back coz of the fault, which explains the last military radar spotting them over the Malacca Strait.
And it explains the passengers phones still ringing after reported missing.
The plane carried on flying with the crew and passengers on their new route unconscious till they crashed.
The plane is most likely in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Malaysia Airlines most likely doesn’t want to look in the right area and find the plane as it will incriminate them for incompetence and liability for damages.

K on March 12, 2014 at 2:53 pm

Video explaining the above:
http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=SyaWdb1GPJM

K on March 13, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Interesting theory.

The families of the passengers are calling the cell phone numbers of the passengers and the cell phones are still ringing, indicating that some the phones are still intact. If the plane crashed into the ocean the phones would not survive either the impact or subsequent exposure to salt water. Same would hold true during a violent crash into the ground. I would think the cell phone companies could GeoTag the phones in order to get a Geographic fix on the phone’s location.

If the theory about loading explosive’s on an aircraft for another 9/11 is true, it would not be as bad as opposed to loading a Biotoxic weapon on the aircraft and flying it over a major metropolitan area.

Peter on March 13, 2014 at 7:17 pm

While others bounce theories around I, for one, will focus on the tragic loss of life and the loved ones/family/friends of the innocents.

Jeff Schrembs on March 13, 2014 at 7:25 pm

Maybe it is in Kenya with Barry’s Birth certificate.

john on March 13, 2014 at 7:42 pm

When the plane left Malaysia air control and handed over to Vietnam, pilot was calm and everything was normal. Just minutes after transponder was off, plane turned around headed west. Autopilot didn’t turn the plane west and the timing of the transponder going off minutes after passing to Vietnamese airspace would seem a big coincidence.

They had enough gas to make it to Pakistan, flying low under the radar. They probably scoped Malaysian because of its weaknesses and proximity to Pakistan.

They will unload passengers,,refuel and use it to deliver either a Nuke or a Dirty Bomb.

Debra on March 13, 2014 at 8:14 pm

Malaysian police and Interpol are “taking a close look at a 35-year-old passenger of Uighur descent”

Frankz on March 13, 2014 at 8:39 pm

Expect the perfunctory media scoffing

Frankz on March 13, 2014 at 8:41 pm

“And maybe, after landing the plane in one of these places, the plane was moved into a hangar or under trees where satellites wouldn’t see it.” Seriously? Them must be some very tall trees! This ain’t a Cessna we’re talking about…

James D. on March 13, 2014 at 9:02 pm

I would like to hear from the witnesses that saw the plane in flames to see if they are credible. It is hard to believe there would not be others seeing a plane in flames …even in an ocean.

Dawn on March 13, 2014 at 9:35 pm

Debbie, I must say that I am perplexed with this as you are. My only thing hypothesis is that Malyasia Airlines probably has more knowledge of what is going on than they are letting on. I have to say this is something you would find in an episode of the Twilight Zone, or that tv series Lost. Though I would not be surprised if something more nefarious turns out later in the future.

Mario on March 13, 2014 at 9:57 pm

I think there is a good chance that the Chinese passengers in that plane were murdered, while the Malay passengers were spared (due to being Muslim). The plane could then have been commandeered.

I doubt that they’d have gone as far as Somalia or Pakistan w/o being detected. More likely, it was diverted for more local Jihads: it was either diverted to Mindanao, Philippines to support Abu Sayyaf, or to Bangladesh, to support Jihadis there who could then reconnect w/ Pakistan

Infidel on March 13, 2014 at 10:12 pm

Apparently there was no ground radar tracking this plane? Maybe this is the first known disappearance of the “Malaysian Triangle.”

Tommy Thomas on March 14, 2014 at 12:18 am

You really shouldn’t write about terrorism or current events. You give conservatives a really, really bad name. You talk in circles, try to bring your “smart” friends into the narrative then throw a few guesses into the end of your piece. Seriously, did you just turn on the tv and look in the mirror and think hey anyone can write about current events?

Mark on March 14, 2014 at 1:38 am

Mark, STFU. There is nothing different going on here than what is happening on all the major news channels and you know it.

James D. on March 14, 2014 at 3:30 am

Seriously? Somolia or someplace in Africa? The plane had fuel to go about 2,200 miles at altitude. And if it dropped from altitude down to 500 feet – like some believe, the fuel burns significantly faster, shortening the distance it could travel substantially.

Bob on March 14, 2014 at 7:38 am

This whole thing has baffled me, but I think you are onto something, Debbie. That is a very real possibility.

Jean on March 14, 2014 at 10:49 am

Never even thought about The Andamans, good possibility: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-divert-andaman-islands-article-1.1721523

Meira on March 14, 2014 at 11:34 am

On the one hand if it went down in the water there would be debris. On the other hand if it were hijacked, all on board would have to have been quickly murdered to prevent cell phone usage and the like. It would be difficult but not impossible to stifle communications from many passengers. My gut tells me it landed somewhere in a remote part of Asia, maybe China.

panhandle on March 14, 2014 at 11:37 am

Unlikely that it could have crossed India without being discovered and it could not have reached Africa.

Federale (@Federale86) on March 14, 2014 at 11:51 am

Does anyone remember that TV show “The Event”. It starred the late John Ritter’s son Jason, Blair Underwood as POTUS and Lisa Vidal as the First Lady who turned out to be an alien. There was a scene in the show where the aliens using their tech moved a passenger plane via a vortex/wormhole. I think that’s what happened as the search parties still haven’t found anything. Seriously though I think that the plane was highjacked either by force or with help from the pilot or copilot as Debbie said. How else does the transponder get switched off. It was also reported that the Rolls Royce jet engines sent signals even after the transponder was shut off telling those looking for the plane that they still managed to fly for several hours after the fact. I think that the passengers are still alive and the Muslim dirtbags who took the plane are hiding it to use it for something. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Ken b on March 14, 2014 at 12:32 pm

That is one of the possibilities I thought of, using the plane in another 9/11 style attack.

Sadly, I do not beleive the passengers are alive, too many people to hold hostage and control.

Thanks for all you do Debbie.

Rocky on March 14, 2014 at 12:36 pm

My very first thought was that a plane like this is worth millions and terrorists had hijacked and taken elsewhere for future mission(s). I imagine if they plan to run it into buildings in future it will be carrying nuclear material for the “big one.”

CJ on March 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm

de plane de plane… enough already,..its now resting on Fantasy Island, wherever that is….lets now focus on Putin, he’s about to pull a Falkland island on Crimea ,AND ,Jihad Islami, the Iranian proxy brigade in Gaza , led by Iranian general Soleimani, has rained over 100 missiles into Israel proper in the last 3 days…the Iranian-Israeli war has begun…WHERE IS THE REPORTING ?!?

HK on March 14, 2014 at 2:40 pm

I won’t make a guess,but it seems someone is hiding something.Unless the advances in modern technology is all a farce,there are systems available to the defense dept. of the US capable of locating devices that DO NOT NEED A TRANSPONDER AND/OR BLACK BOX. This is well known in (insiders) CIA and other super secret agencies. If the plane is not found,it is because they do not want it to be.This has no good reason to be terror hijack,too much time for people to keep “eyes wide open” or shut?!

John Collignon on March 14, 2014 at 4:26 pm

If it’s unimaginably horrific, it’s exactly what Muslims will do. And, if one can’t imagine it, the government has a job for you in Homeland Security. Maybe John Brennan will protect us.

Pray Hard on March 14, 2014 at 4:50 pm

All of us have misplaced things in our lives,be it a set of keys, a car in a shopping center car park or the other sock. Despite our best efforts we search everywhere we think we left the lost object…only for it to turn up somewhere else or it was lying in front our nose all the time.. This airplane is just the same. We are being fed confusion on a daily basis by the Malaysians who are not friendly with the west either. it all serves to make finding this tragic plane all the harder and it would appear that only the vietnamese are trying hard to find wreckage.
The oceans are a vast place, but even a small plane leaves clues as was witnessed in WW2 where the flying boat search planes could find downed pilots in the Pacific. Paper,Plastic bottles, upholstery materials etc etc float and it seems strange that not even the slightest clue has appeared on the surface of the seas…so are we looking in the wrong place ? is Malaysia making us look elsewhere while leaving the plane in open sight ?
I tend to believe the latter, given that the plane allegedly tracked for an hour by the military radar was an entirely different flight.Says a lot about the incompetence of the Malaysian military,who as per normal are top heavy with brass plated staff.

Aron B on March 14, 2014 at 5:47 pm

Malaysia has been under Chinese influence for close on 2,000 years. Malaysia’s elite is corrupt and often incompetent, but they are not collectively suicidal. However, as in Saudi Arabia, some bored young men with more money than sense will be attracted to jihadist adventurism.

It is highly unlikely that the Malaysian government would collectively permit the dramatic and public murder of 150 Chinese citizens. Anyone in Malaysia is well aware of China’s reach (look up “Malayan Insurgency”). China would not hesitate to take drastic punitive action against any responsible individuals, their families, etc.

Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, India etc. all have civilian and military radar data that tells more of the story. A huge aircraft cannot make itself invisible on a radar screen (although it can stop BROADCASTING its IDENTITY).

Guardian Angel on March 14, 2014 at 7:07 pm

Seems most communications systems were deliberately turned off, but they may not have been able to keep the engine from pinging the satellite, or even been aware of it, though I suspect even this could have had power to it cut.

I like Somalia as a possible destination because there less of a chance of it getting detected by some nation’s active radar. And they would allow, and protect the hijackers. They also stand to make millions in ransom.

Amigo Bandar on March 15, 2014 at 1:55 am

It is being loaded with dirty bombs and will soon fly to Israel. World War III is about to start. Jesus is coming to get us very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Byron Bowersox on March 15, 2014 at 9:18 am

so it’s hidden. wouldn’t that be the nsa’s & cia’s filed of ex.? if they cant find the trail of a jumbo jet, going through the data from their billion$ s.o.t.a. sats etc, then what the heck?

joe on March 15, 2014 at 9:57 am

I thought initially when the hijackers landed the jet they would have to execute the passengers, as their agenda is probably to refuel and deliver a weapon of mass destruction. But then I heard today the jet was taken up to 45k feet. The pilots could have put on oxygen masks and yes, like the transponder, they do have the ability to turn off all Oxygen to the cabin. The 200+ passengers would have passed out in minutes and died shortly after. Then the jet went down to approx 25k feet.

Debra on March 15, 2014 at 10:31 am

Unfortunately this event is unravelling with a spin suggesting a more nefarious future outcome. The plane was not crippled, sabotaged, or hijacked. In my opinion the flight was specifically selected to be stolen.
The pilots had been known to have a history of allowing passengers into the flight cabin during flight. this was the reason this flight was selected by the perpetrators.
Once inside, the perpetrators disabled the pilots, turned off the transponder and put on oxygen masks for the next step they took. By increasing to a height of approx. 45000 feet the perpetrators basically deprived all other passengers with of oxygen for enough time to take them out of the equation completely. Once the passengers were gone, the flight was returned to a height that would maximize fuel consumption and allow the new pilots to fly the plane to a pre-destined landing strip, that had been created months or years earlier in possibly Pakistan or most likely Afghanistan. What I believe we are seeing here is the first step to a larger plan to use this plane, as a means to an ends for detonating something more devastating in the future. While we may not have the identity of the perpetrators at this point, it seems clear that this event is well planned and is large enough to require significant ground support and possibly official assistance. The questions that come to mind, is how we have been conveniently informed of 2 persons of Iranian background getting on this flight with false passports that were provided by and tickets purchased by a 3rd person of Iranian background with cash. Believe me when I tell you this info will be highlighted in the future if and when a worse disaster takes place involving this plane and blame placed conveniently on Iran. Here’s another question you may want to ask yourselves,…how many new clandestine runways may have been built in Afghanistan since 2002 that are large enough and secret enough to receive and hide a 777? Then ask, who built these runways in the last 14 years? The answer is not that hard to discover… though the truth behind this event may be a bitter pill to swallow. May those who have lost their lives in this terrible event rest in peace and may their families eventually find solace. My concern now, is how many more will become victims down the road…

WB on March 15, 2014 at 12:32 pm

I think the plane was hijacked as soon as it left Malaysian airspace and flown to a terrorist sponsored country or terrorist friendly country. The passengers were killed when the plane went up to 45k feet, the hijackers knew exactly what they were doing and were most likley trained in the USA or UK somewhere. The chief pilot on the plane also had a flight simulator in his home that he built himself and could have trained ppl there. The terrorist who now have the plane will repaint it and do whatever needed to disguise it from everybody looking for it.they are smart enough to change the signals the plane sends out to let authority’s know where it’s at and how it’s running. Terrorist will load it with enough explosives and dirty nuclear bomb materials needed to cause the biggest most damaging explosion and nuke,+ maybe even chemical/bio fallout to kill many thousands or possibly a million deaths in what ever country it strikes. The country’s I believe they may target are the great USA,UK,China,Japan,Russia or any major country that opposes Islam and or Muslim beliefs and sharia law. They may be trying to start a major conflict or war between china+USA where they know it would cause mass death and weaken both country’s or if they only strike USA it would deff start Obamas plans for marshal law and him taking over power in the USA for years to come and he lets Islam take over the USA?? I can’t believe the USA govt Hasent found this plane yet when they can read a car license plate from space with all of there satellites and spy hardware we have in space and on the ground here and throughout the world. One following favorite saying I truly believe in is to find this plane+who the terrorist+Govts involved are is FOLLOW THE MONEY +in this case FOLLOW THE MONEY+REASON+WHO THINKS THEY MAY BENIFIT THE MOST!!! (OBAMA)???

The Hammer on March 15, 2014 at 12:58 pm

Will the us postphone afgan pull out as the force may be needed aganist pakistan if the us version is true ?

bala on March 15, 2014 at 1:04 pm

It would be interesting to have a review of any and all planes that may have landed in the following three Afghan airfields within the 7 hrs. after the plane lost contact in flight.
Check: Shindand Air Base ( OASD ) – which is located close to the Iranian border, Bagram Airfield ( OAIX ) which is the largest Afghan airport and has a 3000 metre concrete runway and Camp Bastion ( OAZI ) 2nd largest Afghan Airport with a 3500 metre concrete runway. I believe there was enough fuel on board to make it to any of these airports and under the protection of local authorities in that region.

I doubt the original pilots are involved. I believe a trained team that entered the plane as passengers took control by force in the flight cabin, after having been permitted inside to view the operation in flight, which was something these naive pilots have allowed in the past.

Debra has a good grip on what happened, the only real question is what group is really behind what happened and what is the end game for this event?

WB

WB on March 15, 2014 at 1:27 pm

Oh Boy! Take a look at this, y’all! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/crew-passengers-focus-missing-malaysia-airlines-investigation-article-1.1722599

Meira on March 15, 2014 at 2:08 pm

the plane, if hijacked and intact, will be blown out of the sky well before becomming an imminent danger to any population area(should it be perceived as being used as a weapon )… the civlized world will have to shoot first then ask questions later on this, sorry for the innocents

HK on March 15, 2014 at 3:04 pm

.. and if it’s not perceived as a threat until too late, aka 9-11? ..further to the question, what are the effects of blowing up a plane carrying bio-chem or nuclear material over a populated or near a populated area? Someone put a lot of effort to plan to steal this plane and hide it…. I am sure they have already calculated their success ratio on their end game, whatever that may be.

WB on March 15, 2014 at 3:33 pm

Distance from Kuala Lumpur to Afghanistan territory is less than 3800 miles, well in the range of this plane. The runway where it would have needed to land must be in a country with sufficient existing chaos and hence covert air traffic that this plane could have crossed into their airspace and to a covert runway.

China would have noticed if a plane entered their airspace, especially if it landed in Xingjang. India would have noticed if it landed in their territory and would be worried if it was a Pakistani threat, so again I rule out India and China.

Pakistan, while supposedly US friendly, was supposedly host to Osama for quite a while, so it may be a country of interest. Just a little further North of Pakistan, we have Afghanistan with plenty of places that could be home to a hidden and secret runway that could have been built for covert actions by the US or other foreign forces ever since the Russian invasion back in the 80’s.

What is clear,.. is that this operation is well planned, leaving one to believe that if the plane made it to a runway, the perpetrators had help from a government agency, who prepared the landing zone, cleared or helped over-ride the entry and ultimately is helping to plan the next move.

To believe all of this effort was given, simply to fly this plane into the Indian Ocean does not make any sense. They could have simply crashed the plane into the South China Sea or the Gulf of Thailand, without all the mystery and 7 Hours of further flight.

The A-CAST was manually turned off, then the transponder was manually turned off. Then a voice reportedly said over radio control from the plane… “All Right… Good Night!”. So it is clear that someone tried to pretend that everything was normal and fine on the plane, even though they knew that they had just turned off 2 very important ways for Air traffic Controllers to track their plane. Something that would not normally be done under any normal flying condition one could think of.

WB on March 15, 2014 at 4:21 pm

Truely believe plane is in some extremist location. I think the people on board will be used as target practice or experiments with chemical weapons. The plane is being used to fellow terrorists as a way to teach how to fly the plane. i think they will repaint the plane, load it with a nuke or dirty bomb and crash it into Isreal, US, or EU…..We’ll see how it plays out

Phil on March 15, 2014 at 4:34 pm

OT, Deb:

What’s this??? I thought NASA’s primary mission is now Muslim Outreach, not Historical Navel-Gazing…

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists

…oh, wait:

“Dr Nafeez Ahmed is executive director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development”

Nick Fury on March 15, 2014 at 6:20 pm