February 4, 2014, - 2:35 pm

No Tears for Philip Seymour Hoffman; Yup, I Know–We’re Not Supposed to Judge Drug Addicts, Islamic Terrorists Or Anyone Else

By Debbie Schlussel

I really couldn’t care less about the death of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, but in the days since his death many readers have asked me to comment. Frankly, I’m sick of the non-stop, uber-sympathetic coverage of it. I’m also sick of the lamentations and empathy this devoted drug addict gets for choosing shooting up over being in the lives of his three illegitimate children. He couldn’t bother to commit to their mother or to them. But he committed quite well to the 70 bags of heroin, the high-paid acting career, and the $9,800-a-month rental where he was found. But I’m not allowed to “judge.”

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That’s the society we live in. Liberals–and now some faux-“conservatives”–say, “don’t judge.” Don’t judge Islamic terrorists and beheaders. What you think is unacceptable may be just fine in their culture. And, um, who are you to judge some guy with four wives and a Black slave? Don’t judge Kardashians who make porn tapes and become stars because of it. Don’t judge absentee parents, especially mothers who prefer to have careers than raise their children instead of the daycare-and-latchkey industry. Don’t judge foreigners who broke the law and invaded this country and refuse to go home (and now won’t ever be deported). Don’t judge. Don’t judge. Don’t judge.

And that’s the problem. There isn’t nearly enough “judging” going on. Not even close. And, so, we’ve become a culture in which the most base and depraved lifestyles are accepted and promoted and anyone who says otherwise or objects is “backwards,” “reactionary,” “the far right,” or someone who does that unacceptable action of “judging.” We’ve become a culture in which the only judging that still goes on is that which keeps ugly, fat women out of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. But maybe that will change, too, but probably not yet. Because standards are out the window except the base, skin-deep, irrelevant judgments that have nothing positive to add to America’s long-term survival as a nation.

I’m sure I’ll be told, as has already been said about Hoffman, “You don’t know what his life was like.” Ya know what? You’re right. I don’t know what it’s like to live in a $10,000-a-month-apartment with the world’s easiest “job” (acting) and to throw it all away. I don’t know what it’s like to have three children and not care about them enough to make even the most basic choices to remain in their lives. You’re right. I don’t know. But I know enough to know that he was a selfish person who worshiped substances more than family or life. And that’s all I need to know.






And don’t give me the “well, it’s an addiction and an illness beyond his control.” Um, no. Taking drugs is a choice. If it were not, there would be no point in rehab centers because addicts would never be able to make the right choice and stop. Deciding that you would rather shoot up than pick your kids up from school and live to see them graduate from it–that is a choice. And if you believe it isn’t, then I suppose you bought Tiger Woods’ BS that he was a sex addict, unable to exert free will over his pant zipper’s altitude.

And if you believe that, you’re a liberal–someone who doesn’t believe in individual rights and the personal responsibility that goes along with them–but you do believe that in the United States of America everything is everyone else’s fault and you have no control over anything you do. That’s called the Democratic Party platform. And the trial lawyer industry. And if you believe Hoffman is not responsible for his death and wasn’t a lout for choosing drugs over his kids, then I guess you also believe that pedophiles are not at fault for molesting children. After all, they are addicts afflicted with illness that forces them to prey on kids, and they simply have no free will in the matter. And you must also believe the same about murderers, bank robbers, rapists, and so on. They have an illness. They are addicted to wrongful behavior, and who are we to judge? Open the floodgates and let ’em all out of prison. Because, after all, laws and convictions and jail sentences–they are all judging and judgments. And who are we to impose these just because someone acts differently than we do? After all, you don’t know what is going on in these people’s lives and why they did it. And these are people, for the most part, who don’t rent ten-grand-a-month apartments. They are generally low-income, down-on-their-luck sorts. And they are more desperate to do these acts than Hoffman should have been in his comfy lifestyle of the rich and famous.

Oh, and as far as judging, I have a few observations about those who say, “don’t judge.” Are they friends with everyone in the world they meet? Why not? Do they have sex with and marry every person they meet? Aren’t they “judging” when they decide they like this person better than that one and don’t want to have coffee with that one? Aren’t they “judging” meat, poultry, fish, and eggs (and those who eat them), when they choose to eat vegan? Aren’t Hollywood liberals who live in mansions and fly First Class or on private jets judging those of us who don’t and choosing to segregate themselves away from us “cattle”? Damn straight they are. We all make judgments and decisions based on judgments every single day. It’s part of existing. Anybody who tells you not to judge is a fraud and hypocrite because that person is judging every second of every day of his/her existence. Just like you are.

We have a term for humans who do not have the capacity to judge–or if they do, fail to exercise it: incompetents. Also incompetent (or just plain phony . . . or both): people who fail to “judge” and condemn selfish, rich drug addicts who choose to forever abandon and neglect their kids. People who fail to condemn bad and irresponsible behavior aren’t better than me. On the contrary, they are undesirables and part of the problem. Part of the enabling culture that tolerates and allows this behavior.

Yes, Hoffman was a great actor. As a movie critic for SiriusXM Patriot Channels’ “Mike Church Show” (hear my reviews every Friday Morning or read them here), I thought he was fabulous in the movie, “Doubt” (read my review) and several other movies. But I thought other stuff he did was crap, including the highly overrated, “The Master” (read my review), the atrocious “Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead” (read my review), and another movie of his I walked out on (so the studio wouldn’t let me review it).

So what? It’s irrelevant to what he did, the way he led his life. Just because someone is a great actor, it doesn’t mean I’m required to give them the “tortured artist card” making their overdose suicide okay. There have been American soldiers who went through several tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan and left half their bodies’ limbs or more on the battlefield in the name of handing over a country from Sunni Muslims who hate us to Shi’ite Muslims who hate us (Iraq) and building roads for Muslims who hate us (Afghanistan). And they didn’t commit suicide by shooting up. If anyone deserves my non-judgment and a free pass on overdosing, it’s those guys. Many of them are heroes who sacrificed their limbs and psyches for their brothers in arms. This guy, Hoffman, was just a spoiled, though talented, actor. Talent doesn’t make your selfishness okay.

Oh, and please tell me why Lindsay Lohan–who thankfully didn’t have children, unlike Hoffman–is roundly condemned for her pattern of addiction in stark contrast to the worship of Hoffman and reticence about his risky behavior. Is it because she is a bimbo? Hey, wait, aren’t you “judging”? There is no difference between Lohan and Hoffman, other than that he left three kids fatherless and, at this point, she would leave the world and hardly be missed. This guy is an equally zaftig, male version of Anna Nicole Smith, minus the trailer park and with a lot more (now wasted) talent.

So, if you’re gonna tell me that I should pity Philip Seymour Hoffman’s ghost and stop judging, then maybe we should just regress to the Middle Ages. But even then, there was judgment and a set of standards. Far more than now, it seems. In those days, the Kardashians would have been stoned or beheaded, not elevated to idols. And Hoffman would have been another portly court jester whose death wouldn’t have been noted.

We are quickly regressing back far previous to those less-civilized times. I suppose I can’t say anything bad about Caligula. After all, decent people “don’t judge.”

Or do they?

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By the way, anyone wanna tell me the usual drivel about how drug addiction is a victimless crime? Tell it to this dead slob’s three now-fatherless kids.




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82 Responses

ERSTE!

kirche61 on February 4, 2014 at 2:45 pm

i posted earlier today, on another site, that there can’t possibly be a more stupid and pathetic way to die than to have your body found with a needle sticking out of your arm…

man, was i attacked for that post!

probably because i was right.

kirche61 on February 4, 2014 at 2:48 pm

Yup – the Left condemns Scarlett Johansson for dumping the Oxfam BDSers but it tells us not to judge Philip Hoffman’s substance abuse lifestyle.

When comes to the Jews and Israel, they reserve the right to be judgmental but when it comes to a suicidal heroin fiend, its hands off!

I’m sick more of their sanctmonious and patronizing attitude than I am aghast at their hypocrisy! When someone makes a good, albeit politically incorrect choice, that has to be censured – we mustn’t give any one ideas about suppporting Israel.

But hey, its trendy for rich slobs to shoot up and kill themselves and these are our culture’s heroes! I won’t be missing the late Philip Hoffman. Drugs ain’t glamarous ever, period.

NormanF on February 4, 2014 at 3:19 pm

Very good point about Lindsay Lohan — she isn’t neglecting any children! So much hypocrisy.

Also — there is NO shame anymore — a little would be justified I think.

MomInMinnesota on February 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm

I agree totally – this “don’t judge” nonsense is a thin cover for any level of stupidity. Keep judging.

Larry on February 4, 2014 at 3:26 pm

Only straight white males are allowed to be judged by society. And Israel and Jews and devout Christians. This is why Jesse Jackoff gets a free pass with Hymietown, Obama gets a free pass for Israel bashing and wrecking the economy, Arabs get a free pass for trying to blow us up, all of Islam gets a free pass, female school teachers who shtoop male students get probation while male school teachers who shtoop female students get prison, promiscuous gay men get a free pass but not white men who get around, etc. Republican Congressmen caught with men or with women not their wives resign but Barney Frank had a male hooker on his pay roll and he rises to a level of prominence in Congress. Doctors are attacked as crooked by Obama who claims they treat non-existent illnesses but Islamic doctors who cheat Medicaid are okay because they are performing a public service. Oprah is considered smart and beautiful, while Jon Voight is considered ugly and dumb because he is a conservative.

Jonathan E. Grant on February 4, 2014 at 3:48 pm

Wow Debbie – you stole my thunder (I guess I’m judging; sorry). We have been saying the same things about this “overdose” (what is the RIGHT dose when it comes to street level heroin?) death. Hoffmann was, above all other things in his life, a selfish junkie. As someone who deals with these issues on a professional level, my initial thoughts were of disgust and anger at how his behavior affected and will now devastate his children. You’re totally right to compare his behavior to the down and out druggie that we’ve witnessed throughout time. But this guy had advantages. Many of them. It’s a shame that he choose not to utilize them.

Evan on February 4, 2014 at 3:52 pm

Remember when OJ nearly decapitated two people, and the blacks on the street were saying, “You can’t judge?” OJ killing two white people couldn’t be judged, but whites who look askance at a black man are investigated by the Justice Department (To all black readers of Debbie, I am not accusing all blacks of this attitude, just too damn many..but don’t judge me).

Jonathan E. Grant on February 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm

Bravo, Debbie! One of your best. I had mentioned to a friend the morning Hoffman was found that we would have to endure at least a week of limitless vacuous tributes to the man, and moans about what a loss the world has taken. Blah, blah, blah. But, really, that wasn’t a stretch to predict. Now, the retrospective is being written for the next Academy Awards syrupfest. I’ll let those in his world mourn his passing, but I won’t notice any more…he didn’t live in my (the real) world after all.

Kent on February 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm

Bravo, Debbie!

Jeff_W on February 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm

I liked his acting he was great in Charlie Wilson’s War but you have to be a fool to give yourself up this way. But like my ex who has Parkinson’s disease said to me “Oh well you gotta die from something.”

THE MANGOG on February 4, 2014 at 4:06 pm

Saying not to judge is an Alinsky tactic. Turning your beliefs back on you. Do not judge is the most quoted verse of the New Testament. It is meant to shut you up. YES, Jesus said not to judge, but it is usually non believers that love to quote that. I believe he meant, not to condemn. For we all sinners, and filthy compared to a Holy God. But they always like to leave out the part where Christ forgave, or healed and said, ” go and sin NO MORE.” I guess that is being judgmental. Even though his own actions led to his death, it is still tragic. Yes, it was his own choice and he bears all the responsibility. And now his life is cut short, and he will never be able to make it up to his kids. I agree with Debbie, we should not put this man up on a pedestal, but it can still be sad, when we see people destroy themselves.

John on February 4, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Exactly….

    Regarding that Alinsky tactic. Always be wary when an atheist quotes Scripture.

    Prometheus on February 4, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      Always be wary of Bible thumpers with mythological avatars.

      Pray Hard on February 5, 2014 at 5:13 pm

I am proud to say I never heard of Philip Seymour Hoffman until his death.

Yes, like everything else, judging is double-sided. You are allowed to make negative judgments against prevailing Western culture. You are not allowed to make judgments against victims, the so-called 99% or those challenging what they consider to be traditional Western Culture or the ‘wealthy 1%’.

This type of relativism and permissiveness really leads towards anarchy or near-anarchy (Weimar and 1917 in Russia, between February and the Bolshevik coup), and inevitably something replaces it, since anarchy doesn’t have any long-term sustainability. The harbingers of what could replace this general permissiveness are seen in the politically correct strictures of the Government and other entities with authority.

Unfortunately, the way things are going, the prognosis for U.S. society is not reassuring.

Little Al on February 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Neither had I, Al. The NYDN is all over this story and even had an idiot[ette] psychologist make the comment “he may have misjudged his dose after being off heroin for 2 months.” Um, duh, yeaaaaa! That’s usually what an overdose is. She didn’t even address the fact that he was using at all, just that he made a mistake in his dosage, as if it were Tylenol or something.

    Meira on February 5, 2014 at 1:47 am

      WOW- well stated Debbie!!! Keep telling it as it is.
      –Dumb Canadian

      greg on February 5, 2014 at 7:11 pm

I concur. He is not someone who deserves pity. Mr. Hoffman pursued his juvenile antics into middle age, and paid the price for it. Those who claim that they do not judge, do in fact judge when it suits them. What they really mean is that they do not want to be held accountable for their own actions. Mr. Hoffman voluntarily decided to die in the most absurd and grotesque manner. Even among drug addicts, heroin addicts are on the lowest rung of the addiction totem pole.

worry01 on February 4, 2014 at 5:01 pm

“We’ve become a culture in which the only judging that still goes on is that which keeps ugly, fat women out of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. But maybe that will change, too, but probably not yet.”

The feminists will destroy even that within the decade. Lena Dunham is leading the charge there declaring that it is our collective psychological hangup that makes us prefer she clothe her fat lumpy body.

Brian R. on February 4, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Brian, Lena Dunham should be the cover girl for Burqa Illustrated and that would be just fine with me. Thank God, I do not have HBO.

    John on February 4, 2014 at 5:07 pm

      LOL I’m with you there, John. Had a free trial of HBO last year. The boxing was okay, but it isn’t worth $20/month and the implication that I tolerate most of the other crap on there. Golf Channel and Cartoon Network are good enough for me.

      Brian R. on February 4, 2014 at 6:51 pm

I hope this helps…

Lately, we’ve been hearing a lot about judging, repentance, punishment, and forgiveness. What’s more, Scripture is being quoted frequently, and often by those who normally wouldn’t go near it. Worse, passages are being quoted out of context, and the meaning is skewed, to say the least.

But, this is hardly a new phenomenon. Indeed, even the Devil quotes Scripture!! ( Matthew 4:6, Luke 4:10-11)

Let’s take a look at two of the most widely misinterpreted passages, using logic and right reason.

Matthew 7:1-4

Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you. Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove that splinter from your eye,’ while the wooden beam is in your eye?

Matthew 7:5

You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.

Matthew 7:6

Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them underfoot, and turn and tear you to pieces.

****Clearly, 7:1 is not a prohibition against recognizing the faults of others. This would be incompatible with verses 5 and 6. Unless we make judgments, how could we determine what is the splinter in our brother’s eye, or be able to distinguish swine from those who might be worthy?

Rather, we are warned against passing judgment in a spirit of arrogance, forgetful of our own faults.

John 8:3-11

Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She replied, “No one, sir.” Then Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you, Go, and from now on do not sin anymore.”

****This passage in no way says that sins should go unpunished. Instead, it attacks unjust condemnation.

Remember, it “takes two to tango.” Where was the man? Why wasn’t he condemned?

Jesus’ writing on the ground was a judgment in itself: Those who turn away from thee shall be written in the earth, for they have forsaken the Lord, the fountain of living water. (Jeremiah 17:13)

The first stones were to be thrown by the witnesses (Deuteronomy 17:7). If you were a witness, were you not pretty close to the situation? Could you have been one of her illicit partners, as well? Maybe the whole thing was trumped up, and Jesus saw through it.

By acting as a true moral authority, Jesus dissuaded the would be accusers. He didn’t condemn her, and he couldn’t condemn her, since two or three witnesses were required to condemn someone to death. (Deuteronomy 17:6) No doubt, he was also mindful of the story of Susanna, falsely accused of adultery by two old men who unsuccessfully attempted to extort sexual favors from her. (Daniel 13:1-63)

But mark this: He said, “Do not sin anymore.” If she got a free pass at all, it was only because she was brought into a kangaroo court. Her sin was recognized nonetheless.

Prometheus on February 4, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Thank you, Prometheus, for that unattributed cut-and-paste job.

    skzion on February 4, 2014 at 5:26 pm

      @skzion–

      Actually, I plagiarized from myself, and a piece I had written in September of 1998. To give you the link would….reveal my true identity.

      But, if it comes to this, Debbie can vouch for me.

      Prometheus on February 4, 2014 at 6:10 pm

        OK.

        skzion on February 4, 2014 at 6:17 pm

          @skzion–

          It’s not that big a deal, really.

          My name is Michael Shaw and I’m executive vice president and director of marketing for Interscan Corporation.

          We sell Gas Detection Products.

          You can google us for more info.

          Prometheus on February 5, 2014 at 8:22 pm

Prometheus, could it be that Moses was writing down the telephone number of the adulteress?

Just kidding, guys.

Jonathan E. Grant on February 4, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    @JEG–

    Wrong Jewish guy. It was Jesus.

    Prometheus on February 4, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      Sorry, my brain was not turned on. Meant to say Jesus. Would have been much funnier…. Too cold here in DC to think, which explains our government.

      Jonathan E. Grant on February 4, 2014 at 9:00 pm

3 things…

1) As a former (read: still struggling with sobriety) addict, I knew what living for the next fix felt like. I made the choice to go on the ride. I made the disease. Therefore I could only feel a certain amount of sadness for PSH, if only he had given a little thought about those who he really harmed every time he used the needle. It’s a shame that he never lived to see the “bottom” (the addiction’s ultimate toll). He paid the price, but his survivors are stuck with the final bill.

2) As a human, former addict and an atheist, I have every right to judge because I was there. I realize the damage that I have created through my selfish actions. I know that in real life what was done cannot be made undone and that the only way to make amends is to walk away and get the required help. As an engineer of my own successes and failures. The reason why I’m still able to post a response with a roof over my head and a full belly is because I were to slip JUST ONCE, I may not be able to crawl out of the abyss the next time around. Addiction is one hell of a roller coaster ride: once you’re on it, you’d better have a way to get off. (As in end the ride.)

3) Right back @ JEG – I’ve read “Animal Farm” many times to realize the “Four Legs Good – Two Legs Bad” analogy. OJ with a bread knife – good. George Zimmerman with a .22 – bad. Siding with Israel: bad. Fellating a Mullah: good. Too bad that too few people read Orwell to figure out the political machinations of the “left” and “right”. For me, there is right and wrong. Nothing else.

The Reverend Jacques on February 4, 2014 at 5:59 pm

Remarkable post from top to bottom, Debbie! More pure in its content of truth, courage, and character than a batch of Walter White blue is pure in its content of crystal meth.

lee of the lower case "l" on February 4, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Oops, sent too soon. Left out—Thanks, Debbie, for the fix.

    lee of the lower case "l" on February 4, 2014 at 6:20 pm

I would have to concur about Hoffman’s utter selfishness in putting his quest for a heroin “fix” over raising his children who, as noted, were illegitimate. But now we’re hearing in the news that the heroin that killed him is of a particularly strong brand which has also claimed many other lives. This fact, however, by no means whatsoever lets him off the hook.

ConcernedPatriot on February 4, 2014 at 6:13 pm

A little over a year ago I passed a harsh judgement on two teen boys whom I observed go into a porta potty together, yes at the same time, at a lovely little neighborhood park.

I was so irked by this up-to-no-good action that I had my husband call 911 instead of telling myself I was being overly emotional and judgemental and to mind my own business.

There was certainly no way to have known at the time, but my harsh judgement and subsequent call that summoned a police officer to the park saved one of the teen boys from dying of a drug overdose in a nasty ol’ porta potty just 2 days after Christmas.

The other boy who went in to the porta potty to shoot up – he thanked me from the bottom of his heart for being judgemental and calling the cops. He was sober enough to understand that had I not acted on my harsh judgement and had hesitated about calling the cops, if at all – his friend would have died that day. In this instance timing meant everything.

To this day, my husband and I have a very positive take on passing ‘judgement’ and making ‘judgement’ calls. Sometimes being ‘judgmental’ and not being afraid of being ‘judgmental’ can save a life.

Such did not seem to be the case for Philip Seymour Hoffman. One wonders how many people in and around his sphere shelved their harsh judgement of his behavior and the crappy choices he routinely made in his life for the sake of appearing to be ‘cool’ and ‘hip’ and oh so non-judgmental because they percieved him to be more lofty than themselves. Most, I suppose.

Like Debbie stated, he was only an actor. He may have sired 3 children, but he was no father. In the end, he was just a selfish, selfish schmuck.

I do not know what their lives are like today, but I have given much thought and prayers to those young men in the park. And I pray they had a life altering moment. That they decided to walk a better path after that fateful day because a middle-aged lady in a park passed judgement on their actions, and because she cared one, who was most likely to die that day, lived. And I pray those young boys will mature into better men. Get married, have children and be wonderful fathers. Much better fathers than PSH could ever dream of being, alive or dead.

Kairn on February 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm

I’m sympathetic to the idea of “addiction” as not-quite-a-choice. But that doesn’t mean that one cannot make the effort to defeat one’s addiction. There’s no evidence that PSH ever made the effort.

skzion on February 4, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Actually, PSH had gone into treatment in the past and was (relatively?) sober for a few years. Unfortunately, either someone failed to recognize/point-out triggers that would result in a relapse or he refused to revisit “the program” once in a while.

    Once an addict gets a taste, it’s not easy to get rid of it. I became an alcoholic mainly because booze tasted just as good as (or better than) the buzz/poisoning. In order for me to avoid a relapse, I had to factor in the costs of maintaining the habit and the associated health risks. I just have this one habit with cigarettes that turns out to be a real hassle trying to kick because I have to let go of the ritual of lighting up and taking a huge draw. Some people kick easier than others: I fall in the latter group.

    But PSH made a choice, and now everyone is paying for that.

    The Reverend Jacques on February 4, 2014 at 7:48 pm

Debbie,

Great post!

Plenty of good comments here. All I can say is the way he is being beatified you would have thought Gandhi had died.

Peter on February 4, 2014 at 6:46 pm

It’s true. “Liberals” do not really believe in choice (except when it comes to abortion and only as a stopgap until they can make it mandatory when necessary one day ) because they don’t really believe in freedom.

Most so called “liberals” if you ever spend time with them(not always a good plan) will tell you that the idea of free choice is an illusion.
They just won’t tell you honestly what “reality” they want to replace it with.

Frankz on February 4, 2014 at 6:56 pm

This is why America has to go even if they have to make it fall from within like Khrushchev.
Otherwise what are they?

Frankz on February 4, 2014 at 6:59 pm

Not talking about Philip Hoffman specifically of course. Don’t know much about him.

Frankz on February 4, 2014 at 7:02 pm

I always thought that Hoffman was a good actor. Anyone who can make Tom Cruise look like and ineffective moron (Mission Impossible III) was okay. That being said (and I’m being very judgmental here) it was very selfish and stupid for him to be found dead in that manner. To other brain dead liberals and CINOs it was the addiction that did him in or the strain of being in Hollyweird or other such BS that they screen on shows like Entertainment Tonight. The painful truth of the matter is that Hoffman and all the other celebutards like him ie Belushi, Farley, Houston, Jackson and Lohan(yeah I know she’s still breathing and hopefully the other shoe won’t drop in her case) chose to do deadly drugs and thus end their lives prematurely. But to hear nitwits in the media tell it Hoffman was a saint and the needle stuck itself in his arm. I’ve had relatives and friends die because of drug use and let me tell you it is just a bad scene for everyone. Yes liberals that includes your favorite drug marijuana. The best thing for people to do about drugs is to just say no. Now if that’s being too judgmental for some people then they can go pound sand.

Ken B on February 4, 2014 at 8:09 pm

One of your very best articles Debbie, since I’ve joined, and in my perfunctory perusal of the archives. Also, dozens of great and totally correct comments. Great reading all around. Poster “John” in his first post said what I would have. Right on.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on February 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm

The other thing is liberals who tell us to be careful about what we eat and drink and take care of our health are the same people who have a libertarian attitude towards dangerous drugs. Hey, if I want to get stoned or get high, that my business!

But people on the Left usually make it their business to run our lives and decide what’s good for us! If only they were consistent in their attitude about social and peronal vice.

NormanF on February 4, 2014 at 8:29 pm

The only thing they’re consistent about Norman, is their mental illness. The mental illness that inspires their insistence on bowing to the will of Satan by inflicting policies that are guaranteed to destroy order in society.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on February 4, 2014 at 8:56 pm

Good article. We can’t emphasize enough that once you’ve brought kids into the world,the whole ballgame changes. And it’s not so much about ‘me’ anymore.

Not Ovenready on February 4, 2014 at 9:10 pm

That was the best well written article I have seen about Hoffmans death yet. I enjoy reading the facts and the truth about things and kudos to you for saying so.

Super Dave on February 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm

Debbie, your site is the only place I saw mention of the passing of a great actor, Maximillian Schell. While the whole American MSM went (and still is going strong) nuts over the death of another mediocre junkie who played the same part (troubled, moody blah blah blah) in the few movies I saw him in. It’s amazing how people will ignore and step over a junkie on the street but put him on the screen and suddenly they are all Orson Welles and are the smartest people in the world.

ender on February 5, 2014 at 2:28 am

@Prometheus : “Rather, we are warned against passing judgment in a spirit of arrogance, forgetful of our own faults.” and then you proceed to discuss about that famous incident in John:8, about Christ “supposedly” coming to the aid of the Adulteress lady and according to a lot of Christian’s theories including yourself. Christ points out, not to jump against the Poor woman since we are all full of faults yourself.

Actually if you read Numbers 5 in the Torah, especially from Verse 11 onwards. You would get a clearer understanding of what Christ was trying to accomplish, whilst he was bending over and writing over the ground. And when you compare that, with what the Head Cohen does in V:23 of Numbers 5 as the Cohen writes over on the Scroll. you will find more in common then the Jeremiah 17 analogy.

But, you were right when you concluded, the passage says that sins should never go unpunished.

However you were wrong when you presumed when Christ said “Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” to be another way of us being mindful of our own faults when we judge others.

Rather in the Middle-east and especially in Torah standards, this woman was Innocent as you mentioned later in your passage.. where was the man and the “it takes two to tango” reference.. These men were about to spill innocent Blood if this woman died, since you need a minimum of two witnesses to Swear by Hashem for an Execution, which is why they left as you brought up Deuteronomy 17 later.

I’m also sure Christ writing on the Ground itself has more in common with the Numbers account then the account mentioned in Jeremiah 17.

To conclude all this, I’m a Christian too and while I do admire your devotion to the Scriptures and love of Christ. Why provoke people over here? Especially since the Owner of this site is Jewish herself, and bringing up literature that is clearly offensive to them? Clearly a form of “Judging” them as Inferior, even though it was and I am sure unintended and perhaps to a degree Indirect to their sentiments. I prefer to appreciate and learn from them scriptures and other subjects, cause we Christians have a long way to go, to even come close to achieving Earthly perfection.

Beracah John Martyn on February 5, 2014 at 5:40 am

    @beracah–

    The entire “Don’t judge” bit comes from a false reading of the NEW Testament, and that’s why I brought it up. I doubt that Debbie took offense.

    Numbers 5 is a nice reference, but with all due respect, I think Jeremiah 17:13 is more apt.

    As to your question of whether we should be mindful of our own sins when judging others, not sure how you can disagree with that, as I mention one relevant passage in the original posting:

    Matthew 7:5

    You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.

    At any rate, there is no point in this “verse slinging” other than to emphasize that the entire “Don’t be judgmental” thing is non-Scriptural and as said by another poster, an Alinsky tactic.

    Prometheus on February 5, 2014 at 9:03 am

Deb:

Your eulogy of Max Schell was posted right around the time news of Hoffman’s death was announced. When I saw the Schell eulogy, I thought: “Huh?” What does she see in THAT guy?

When I finally got time to actually read the columns, I realized you were talking about someone vastly different than Hoffman.

I think you make a good point in this column. No matter how people insist that we not judge others, we all have our personal preferences. Sometimes, I share yours. Other times, I don’t. Most important, there are times when you bring new facts to light that changes my perspective. That’s why I read your blog.

I don’t watch many movies. I don’t pity Hoffman. Actors like him obtain more wealth than they know what to do with. They fail to manage their lives properly and end up as failures. It’s all too common; been going on for a long time in the entertainment biz. Hoffman is just “another one bites the dust”.

There’s other news to cover. On to the next thing.

Sincerely,

There is NO Santa Claus (aka TINSC)

There is NO Santa Claus on February 5, 2014 at 7:56 am

Egocentric much?

Josh Woodard on February 5, 2014 at 8:07 am

    Libtard much?

    skzion on February 5, 2014 at 12:41 pm

Thank you Debbie. I am so sick and tired of hearing about what a great person Hoffman was. You are right. So he was a great actor, but in the end does it really make a difference. He will be remembered for the needle stuck in his arm. Of course we will have folks emulating him too. Today’s youth know nothing of culture or greatness. They only seem to know about the next expected baby of their favorite stars and who is cheating on whom. Great post. Thank you.

Naomi R. on February 5, 2014 at 9:17 am

And one other thing: Who, in 50 years’ time, will remember Hoffman’s role as Truman Capote (another later-in-life train wreck) that won him an Oscar? Unlike the vast variety of roles that Maximilian Schell played for which he remains best remembered.

ConcernedPatriot on February 5, 2014 at 10:40 am

I couldn’t have said it better myself Debbie. While I enjoyed Hoffman’s acting, in the few movies I saw him in anyway, his death was ultimately a choice because he chose to use drugs in the first place. I’ve known many people in my life who chose to use drugs and/or alcohol and then live in a continuing pity party for themselves. Good actor, yes, he was. But as you said there are now three young kids who are left without a father. Our pity should be for them.

Suzanne on February 5, 2014 at 11:27 am

Yes Prometheus, good comeback, exactly. And meanwhile, an actor like Maximilian Schell, who USED to be celebrated decades ago, passes on in virtual ignominy. I guess he was just another irrelevant old white guy. And of course, Philip Seymour Hoffman was a cool, savvy, hipster with a tragic disease.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on February 5, 2014 at 2:10 pm

@Prometheus. With all due respect my friend, I do believe Debbie and a lot of Jewish friends I know, do take offense at scriptures we cherish, thrown so ignorantly infront of them without realizing their feelings.

Also, Read Matthew 5:17-20 first to get a better understanding, why you need to understand the Torah first and see why Numbers 5 is a better comparison to the John :8 comparison before you bring up Matthew 7:5 again …and perhaps realize Christ when he talked about forgiveness etc. he was 100% for judgement based on Hashem’s word, but never judgement based on yours or my view’s. And especially if we aren’t so self-righteous ourselves on the subject we are addressing our accused party, thereby making us a complicit hypocrite. Matthew 7:5 is just one more reason why Christ is a Paradoxical man to say the least, and cannot be taken for granted in a Simple reading even though people like us Love him :-).

And coming back to your reading on Jeremiah 17, After reading the whole chapter itself and understand the context of it, not just the one verse your brought up. It is clearly referencing about Y’hudah’s Sins and what Hashem will do to them for that and the blessings for the righteous in them.

The Context of Christ addressing a Supposed Adulteress Lady in John: 8, has far more Common Ground with the Numbers 5 account which shows in detail..the remedy required for adulteress women or curse for them, and when you understand terms like “Living water” etc. after learning a bit of the Torah, you’ll understand why it is definitely more in common. The Jeremiah Account, on the surface seems like the type of verse most Christians would bring up to validate their point but clearing missing the whole point of the Subject.

Anyways, Good day, I don’t know how I ended up on a Debate on scripture’s, when it was supposed to be about the death of the Dude i thought was alright in ‘Scent of a Woman’ 🙂

Beracah John Martyn on February 5, 2014 at 3:16 pm

I have a feeling, when it come to the more general subject of whether or not Debbie gets offended at anything, she’s perfectly capable of speaking for herself and policing this web site, as we all know she does. She does put up comments either affirming certain posters comments, or at other times chastising them when she feels it necessary.

Again, that’s a general statement, anyone who chooses to take it upon themselves to think it was directed at them, does so without due justification. And I’m saying so because the subject of anyone, including Debbie, being offended, has come up more than once in this thread.

And furthermore, in case anyone hasn’t noticed, two posts disappeared from this thread, including one by Prometheus that I replied to, while I was typing my reply. Not my place to question Debbie’s choice, either openly or in private. Therefore, I think we can safely assume that if Debbie is offended at anything, she’ll speak up if she deems it necessary, either in public or private, since she has all our e-mail addresses.

Lastly, “getting offended” is something I predicted in the early 80’s (I’m not necessarily the ONLY one) would someday become a problem for this nation. It is very selective, and has obviously long since become a problem.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on February 5, 2014 at 3:37 pm

Heroin addiction should never have been called a disease..which to my mind is something you catch by accident or bad luck. Injecting an opiate (made in Afghanistan ,Mexico or some other godless patch of filth on this planet) into your flesh is matter of choice . I had never heard of this guy before and if he has had a problem with his choices in his life it is not an excuse to call him a great actor etc.
He was a leach on our civilization with his support of the islamic terrorists who grow the poppies .
May his many fans and loved ones learn from his example and condemn those who move illicit narcotics around the world and condemn those lost souls addicted to this stuff as supporters of radicalized cults such as islam.

Aron B on February 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm

Aron B, since you state “some other godless patch of filth” in relation to Afghanistan and Mexico, with respect more to Mexico, really??!???!!!? I know they have problems down there, or rather more across from where I’m sitting now, but seriously?!?!?!!!??

I think a VERY strong case, if we are to use your reasoning, and I see no reason why not, can be made to state that the USA is also a godless patch of filth.

As a matter of fact, since we can be quite certain at this point in human history, that we are definitely on a collision course with attempted self-annihilation, the whole earth can be described as a godless patch of filth. Show me, outside of individuals who truly follow God, and even THEY, in an imperfect fashion, falling “short of the glory of God,” what place on earth is not a godless patch of filth. Does this earth’s machinations appear godly to you?

There are a lot of good folks in Mexico, that’s the reason for my shpiel. Let’s let Jesus weed us all out when He returns, as for condemning whole territories. Know how many meth labs there are in the U.S., masquerading as sweet, inoffensive, suburban homes?

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on February 5, 2014 at 3:50 pm

Nice to see the compassion that everyone has for their fellow humans. The fact that PSH was a successful actor but still indulged in addiction just proves that addiction can dominate anyone’s life from nearly any background. I don’t agree with giving the man a free pass but making general statements about him and other addicts the way they have been made here is just shameful. Yes you can judge, yes you can quote scriptures. However when that time comes and someone asks you what you did for the least worthy among us what will your answer be? Will it be that they deserve to die? That they deserve no compassion? That they receive your judgment but nothing else? I am sure I will be called a series of names for posting this. Despite being a conservative I will be called a libtard and a loser. I will summarily be judged, ignored and put into the same categories of all those you hate (and from reading this article and the comments there is certainly a lot of justified hate here). Go in peace. Hug your family. Pray that none of them ever pick up a dangerous drug because from what I have read here…..they will be shunned and left on their own.

Disappointed on February 5, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Dear Disappointed,

    You are NOT a conservative. Why do you start off with a lie?

    “However when that time comes and someone asks you what you did for the least worthy among us what will your answer be?”

    I expect you’d have trouble answering that one yourself, but I don’t see why a Jew (like Debbie and most of the regulars here) should care about this particular Christian standard, even assuming that your take on it is accurate (which I doubt).

    skzion on February 6, 2014 at 11:48 am

If he had been my friend (and I had been the me of right now) I would have slapped him senseless every time I saw him, forced an intervention on him every time I saw him and called law enforcement every time I saw him. Maybe he still would have died, but it wouldn’t have been because I didn’t try. When we make excuses for druggies, we have their blood on our hands. Yeah, addiction is addiction, so what? Addiction is not an excuse to keep using, it’s a reason to stop using and change for the better. And, yeah, we really don’t have control over anything but ourselves, but don’t be a fffing enabler.

Pray Hard on February 5, 2014 at 5:09 pm

I won’t even read this in its entirety. You can judge whomever you choose but in the end, it comes down to your own ignorance. I will never say addiction is victimless but I will also not give a blanket statement saying that addicts aren’t victims. I hope someone close to you ends up in this struggle, I even hope there’s a reason for it, like underlying mental illness, and I hope they read this article and realize that you’re simply not worthy of the friendship of a recovering addict.

melissa sin ledger on February 5, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    melissa, you sound like an a-hole. Thanks.

    skzion on February 5, 2014 at 6:51 pm

Liberals think they are mimicking Jesus when they spew their non-judgmental garbage. However, what they are really doing is attempting to associate their sanctimony with the teachings of Jesus and hope the glam rubs off on them. I don’t remember anywhere in the Bible (KJ version) where JC said to be a self/other-destructive/enabling/suicidal dumbass when attempting to be non-judgmental. I mean, seriously, do these idiots think that JC would not have confronted the late Mr. Hoffman?

Hey, I thought he was mostly a very talented, fantastic actor and I will miss watching his talent. However, I’ve also been on the Earth long enough to be completely sick and tired of the selfishness they wreak on us and the carnage wreak on themselves, their families and loved ones with their personal addictions, whether they be alcohol, drugs, sex, food, tobacco, whatever. Remember, if you’re with someone who’s addicted, the best you can ever be to them is second place. The addiction always comes first. I’m tired of hearing “What a shame”.

Pray Hard on February 5, 2014 at 5:27 pm

I totally agree with you, it was a choice to use drugs, to be a adulterer, then “become” an “addict”. It is not a disease. Hoffman the Hero, Tebow the Terrible for example. It’s backwards. I’m not convinced that this was a self-inflected overdose, can’t prove it, but…they’re powers that be who are in control. You don’t tow the line, you don’t last long. For what it’s worth.

William on February 5, 2014 at 6:31 pm

Very good!!

Mike on February 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm

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