C’mon Debbie, put on your thinking cap. Terrorists?!?!?!!!! ROTFLMAO!!! You know full well that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. It’s like that comment about The Mob all those years ago. It doesn’t really exist. It’s all a figment of law enforcement’s imagination to make excuses for stuff that happens. Same with terrorism.

Rush led off his show with a commentary quite similar to yours, and saying that the media blaming the Tea Party was right around the corner. I agree with both of you, especially since we have a black guy and a white guy at large, according to the lady’s commentary they just interrupted Rush’s show for. How convenient, no mention of “Middle Eastern” looking men.

Terrorism. We all need to wise up. There IS no such thing as terrorism, especially in the Religion Of Peace.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 12:43 pm

Well they’re probably right, because when you don’t know CRAP about what’s going on, you can say there’s no KNOWN links to terrorism. But I gotta wonder, will this be another job like MAJ Hassan where there were MULTIPLE red flags (or should we be calling these black flags like the one Al Qaeda flies?) but because of the race and/or religion of the people involved, nobody wanted to be called an insensitive, tea-bagging Republican. Notice how AFTER the fact, they secured the Capitol Building as a precaution. Not the Pentagon, and in fact as far as I can tell, NOBODY else. At least we got our priorities.

Sean M on September 16, 2013 at 12:47 pm

Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala!!!

Hark, it’s the Tea Party’s call to arms, which as we all know, they got from Nicole Sullivan on that comedy show many years ago.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Naww, Juts workplace violence..

Mike on September 16, 2013 at 12:55 pm

I suspect Obama will declare this to be a case of “workplace violence”.Remeber the leader of Al-Qaeda has called on Muslims to wage attacks inside the United States, to wreak instability that will “bleed America economically”.
Today is strike 1…

Steve on September 16, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Hmmmmmmm, Muslims to wage attacks inside the United States, ehhhhhhhh? Like the Muslim In Chief, and those of his ilk on the left, who love to create chaos and confusion to stir the pot of social and political change? Who was it, The Ballerina, Rahm Emanuel, who made that remark about not letting a good crisis go to waste?

Ahhhhhhhh, what does it matter, Obama, Emanuel, Sunstein, Axelrod, Jarrett, they’re all the same! Bound tightly by a common, Satan inspired ideology.

One more step toward the prediction of The Community Organizer In Chief readying himself to declare Martial Law. We don’t need Martial Law, we need Marshall Dillon, but alas, that was a different day and time.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 1:03 pm

I think Lawrence Summers was behind it. He was pretty upset about having to withdraw his name from consideration.

I have a feeling that the Obama Administration and the media will try to obscure the motives of the shooters as much as possible. It was very likely a Jihadist attack. The randomness of the victims(according to media reports)militates against a mere workplace revenge shooting.

worry01 on September 16, 2013 at 1:24 pm

You can bet the government is looking for ways to spin this already in such a way as to enable them to take more rights and freedoms away from the people. I am curious about how those people got all those weapons past security. One of the shooters is already being claimed as an employee of the Naval yard. Either this was an inside job, with security personnel involved, or there was gross negligence and incompetence on the part of security.

RT on September 16, 2013 at 1:26 pm

I guarantee, with at least 90 percent accuracy, that this outrage was a jihadist operation that had an inside man. This infiltration could have been straight out of “White House Down,” except it’s the Navy Yard.

Gee, maybe the killer is a disgruntled Washington Nationals fan; the baseball stadium is nearby. Couldn’t be Muslims, right?

Seek on September 16, 2013 at 1:47 pm

I saw NCIS jackets on some of the officers in the picture at FOX(y)-News web site. For the record, I did not see Special Agent Gibbs, Abby Sciuto or “Ducky” in that crowd.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 1:51 pm

In really LATE news from London, British officials are saying that last night’s sustained heavy bombing raid over the capital had absolutely no connection with the Luftwaffe or Mr. Hitler’s stated aims.
Copy: New York Times for its Dear Adolf column.

Nir Leiu on September 16, 2013 at 1:56 pm

Maybe they white, and black, Hispanics.

Blayne on September 16, 2013 at 1:56 pm

Maybe they are white, and black, Hispanics.

Blayne on September 16, 2013 at 1:57 pm

Even allowing for the parsing of the word ‘known’, the DHS statement is false. The act, itself defines the episode as terrorism. They could say there is no ‘known’ connection to Muslims, or other groups, but the act itself is sufficient to define the action as terrorism.

This leads to the conclusion that virtually no actions anymore, in this Newspeak environment can be called ‘terrorist’. Do they have to kill 100 people? 5,000 people?

Years ago, it was hard for me to conceive of the lying nature of the Soviet press. Now it is much easier, as there are constant everyday examples.

Little Al on September 16, 2013 at 1:58 pm

I suspect the ‘white’ person is an invention of someone, to make it seem like we are not picking on Black folk. We will find out soon, later today it was not a white guy at all but half white or half hispanic. NOT that white folks are exempt from this type of behavior, because they are not, however whites when they do this tend to act alone. If I am wrong please do the nah nah finger wave at me. My money is on a Jihad attack or work place violence.

HL: A White Arab Muslim? DS

Holly Lamb on September 16, 2013 at 1:58 pm

The way the government and media are now I wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s eventually revealed the white guy and black guys are both Arab.

Bomb on September 16, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Tea Party protesters, anti-Tax people (like in Boston), workplace violence, Koch brothers, lots of possibilities.

adam on September 16, 2013 at 2:21 pm

Oh, I forgot, could be George Zimmerman and/or other angry racists.

adam on September 16, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Update: Now it’s 12 dead

Lisa Gnas on September 16, 2013 at 2:23 pm

I agree with adam, sounds like Zimmerman is angry ever since the story hit the news that his wife is divorcing him. So, just for ssfety’s sake, the DC Police Chief is saying one black, one white and two on the lam. Let’s see, one Black Hispanic, one White Hispanic, and two phantom Hispanics. Pretty much leaves the door open for them to make up whatever story they want to conclude this episode.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Army General on Russia Today states “we train to fight abroad, not at home. Im totally shocked”. Just reinforces my take on the western forces presence in the Islamic world. While they are away ‘fighting for their country’, which we all know is crap. Our porous borders continue to fill up our countries with the enemy. As Debbie has stated before, “the barbarians are well inside the gate”, if the armed forces cannot see that, they are equally as blind as everybody else. The Army should be at home with us, protecting us in our land. Because thats where the enemy is, not in Afghanistan, not in Iraq, not in Syria, here, at home, living among us.
No intervention in Syria etc is going to change anything, the muslim world is a powdercake, in my opininion, military presence simply exacerbates the situation. It just gives them another reason to hate us even more.

My thoughts go out to the victims, I will follow this story closely.

Robert on September 16, 2013 at 2:32 pm

The military, like the rest of our government, has been infiltrated by our sworn enemies. So, let’s just wait and see who these guys end up being. The media’s “job” is to muddle the waters before the facts are known so the truth gets caught up in the rest of the rumors.

JeffT on September 16, 2013 at 2:34 pm

just heard that the dead shooter was from texas… the lefty-verse is having a field day with this.

kirche61 on September 16, 2013 at 2:47 pm

Of course Moslems should first be suspected. If it were Christians, being a Christian myself, I would consider Methodists to be the prime suspects. It could have been an inter-denomimational operation targeting Baptists, the goal being to free up tables at area restaurants following Sunday services so other Methodists wouldn’t have to wait so long to get one. If the attack were intra-denominational it could have been motivated by the failure of some fellow Methodists to bring a covered dish to various church functions.

CornCoLeo on September 16, 2013 at 2:49 pm

It is Islam. No doubt. For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction, so says Newton. But not here at home. Such jihadist actions are now followed by more denial and more appeasement. It is time to get real. We can’t afford to wait any longer. We must fight fire with fire. There must be an Army of American Citizens Against Islam formed to eradicate Islam in this country. Count me in! Islam must be stopped.

Red Randy on September 16, 2013 at 3:24 pm

These crimes were not the result of a conspiracy. One conspiracy kooks would think that. The more logical explanation is that several deranged loners acting individually merely came up with the same scheme and executed it at the same time. The fact that they all committed their crimes at the same time was merely a coincidence. This was just an isolated case of individual deranged loners, having nothing to do whatsoever with terrorism, and only demonstrates the need for serious gun control measures. Other than that, there’s nothing to see here folks, and we should move along.

Ralph Adamo on September 16, 2013 at 3:24 pm

From a Washington Times article:

“NBC reported the slain gunman was a 34-year-old man from Texas, who was a civilian contractor who stole a military ID to gain access to the Navy Yard.” From a Washington Times article

Judging how many Muslims work as contractors, I would guess the “black” guy is Somalian or Ethiopian. More likely, the military ID “was given by a Muslim to gain access to the Navy Yard.” Insider job.

JM on September 16, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Come on, people. Let’s get your Newspeak up to speed. “Workplace violence” is a sub-category of “man-made disasters.”

DS_ROCKS! on September 16, 2013 at 3:31 pm

I don’t know how long I can listen to airhead anchors. “12 people passed” They didn’t pass. They were murdered!

PaulaMalka on September 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm

Sounds like exactly the kind of attack Ayman al-Zawahri polishes his prayer bump for.
I guess we’ll see.
This buckshot approach is probably what they’ll be doing for a while now and it may prove very effective for them.
In fact if they can do it on a large enough scale for long enough it may ironically be what ends up bringing the house down.
If we get used to it they’ll have their eye on an opportunity to scale it up.
This is what you do to an enemy on the run.

Frankz on September 16, 2013 at 3:49 pm

you should leaving thinking to those that are more qualified to do it.

jamal on September 16, 2013 at 3:55 pm

The most important thing from their point of view may not what the idiot media say. The media probably think they’re undermining jihad by playing it down. stupid. but they really are that stupid.

I think the most important thing from their point view is that they undermine the resolve of people in the know.
Also the fact that there is intimidation going on that nobody can really talk about directly is a very powerful aspect of what they’re doing.

Frankz on September 16, 2013 at 3:59 pm

My liberal sister thinks it is a workplace violence and that it was random shooting rampage by former employees.

I shook my head at that ridiculous notion.

Bob on September 16, 2013 at 4:07 pm

As long as it doesn’t confirm any pesky “outmoded” preconceptions about Islam that may linger in the liberal psyche they’d buy into a mind control by Martians theory if they had to.
Interesting to see what comes out.

Frankz on September 16, 2013 at 4:22 pm

And then these fools say the motive for the attack is unknown.

Isn’t the motive obvious? To attack our country?

Little Al on September 16, 2013 at 4:31 pm

The media is trying to make it out that the black shooter was a Buddhist, specifically a Thai Buddhist. What a laugh at the media’s desperation!

Most likely he shopped around for a religion, and we can all be pretty sure of the religion that he ended up practicing.

JM on September 16, 2013 at 5:26 pm

After this incident of “workplace violence”, there will be yet another round of discussion concerning gun control and “assault weapons”

Peter on September 16, 2013 at 6:50 pm

My gut tells me that this looks like it is Islamic terrorism but lets wait and see
The media can only report what the facts say and or what officials tell them

We can speculate all we want on this forum but just throwing out accusations on
News programs is not good journalism and being a litigious society , its probably better to be cautious.

With all the social media options we have now , information comes out so fast
And is not always accurate.

It reminds me of a Homeland story arch , where an African American marine turns into an islamic terrorist.just sayin’

Going to focus on the victims of this attack and will sort out the who, what amd why later.
Weird thing is that it reminds me of a Homeland story arch. Ghis African American marine turns into an Islamic terrorist..just saying.

I will focus on the victoms of this attack and will sort out all the who what amd why

sanjay on September 16, 2013 at 8:02 pm

He wasn’t screaming Allahu Akbar apparently so he may just be a random nut case who didn’t need Islam to justify his insanity.

Frankz on September 16, 2013 at 8:24 pm

I’m waiting for the facts on this one. I don’t trust the Gubmint or the Obama-Putin Media…especially early in the game.

I suspected Jihad because the math backs it. But also, as of late, Blacks have been randomly and heinously attacking whites like crazy these days. So if it’s not Jihad, THAT follows the zeitgeist-y trend NOW in America.

With exception of that poor, Black man shot dead by the White Police just days ago. He sounds like a victim of alarm by that Black On White senseless & violent crimes (because the woman’s door he knocked on (had car trouble…) got alarmed & slammed door when she saw him…) and rouge Cop shot at him with ZERO threat. The exception to the latest rule and that is a shame because that poor man should not have had to die when he needed HELP and was NOT a threat.

Skunky on September 16, 2013 at 9:22 pm

He’s a white Buddhist. No jihad here! Sorry to disappoint everyone!

Lee on September 16, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Vegetarian Mormons protesting penguin discrimination by New Zealand in the South Pole.

#1 Vato on September 16, 2013 at 9:44 pm

This dude grew up in Brooklyn. Glad they’re not mentioning Texas in every sentence anymore. I like the one about blaming Sarah Palin in drag. It’s not really funny, because this is a huge crime in which 12 died and 14 are now reported injured. That makes at least a couple hundred American lives disrupted and left in utter sadness. Make that perhaps several hundred and with the sadness factor, it could run in to the thousands. Prick bastard chump ass motherfucker.

These events can lend themselves to a macabre sort of humor, though. Like, maybe Dave Chappelle got fed up with being heckled. I’m not giving up on an Islamic connection. The only other possibility besides jerk gone loony is the Trayvon’s Revenge theory. One more incident along the way to the attempted self-annihilation of the human race.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Sorry, the suspect was not white but was still an American Buddhist.

Lee on September 16, 2013 at 9:50 pm

If it weren’t for the anti white programs of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, that guy would probably have never been hired as a contractor with the Navy.

RT on September 16, 2013 at 10:04 pm

One of the most interesting things I’ve ever seen is the propensity of Americans to turn to Buddhism. Funny thing. I’ve seen years go by, and nothing every really seems to change about them or their lives. When you talk to them, they tell you a lot of sob stories about how tough it was growing up in Catholic school, how the nuns used to beat them for misspelling ‘cat’ and you realize it’s anything to get away from the God of The Bible, the so-called Judeo-Christian God.

Yeah, gotta get away from that Judeo-Christian god, the “white man’s” god, gotta get away from that book that’s been so altered it’s not recognizable anymore, because people made changes that would enable them to control people. Skunky or anyone, ever hear that one before?

Who here is really in to the scriptures, whether you believe in Christ and the New Testament or not. It’s like part of a script, these lefty intellectuals all read the same lines. It’s so predictable, never mind finishing their sentences for them, you can predict every syllable of what they say.

Don’t forget Debbie, or me, or anyone here who considers The Bible or any part of it to be The Written Word of The Creator of the universe and everything in it. We’re being duped by a book that was secretly and maliciously altered to control us. So, I’m off to a meeting with a local minister, so he can tell me what God meant by certain passages and how I should think after waking to start my day tomorrow. Maybe we can form a Scripture Dupes Anonymous society.

Hi, I’m Alfredo and jerk enough to believe The Creator actually left us an instruction manual, as Herbert W. Armstrong correctly referred to The Bible.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 16, 2013 at 10:11 pm

So in the event that this turns out to not be a direct Muslim act, what was going on?

Just ‘workplace violence’? A disgruntled former Navy dischargee?

We have had hysteria among Blacks for more than a month about Zimmerman’s acquittal, and the killing of Trayvon Martin. We all know about Blacks who said that had to get Whitey in order to avenge Trayvon. It is not inconceivable that this is what happened here. And without doubt, if this was the case, it will never be publicized by the Government, witnesses will be threatened as the Government does in countless other situations. It would explain why the witnesses are still being held… and if we find out that this was vengeance for Trayvon Martin, it will be only by accident. The Democrats will never admit it, nor will the me-too Republicans.

Little Al on September 16, 2013 at 10:34 pm

Should have known it wasn’t a Muslim since they actually shot and killed him. If he was Muslim they would have just captured him so he could have a big expensive trial where he can mock all of his victims for years to come.

Bomb on September 16, 2013 at 11:16 pm

When the gubmint figures out how to use it to their advantage, then we’ll be told what really happened. And by “what really happened,” I mean the “official” story. Until then, expect ever changing info, such as there were 3 perps and 2 got away, they were a white guy and a black guy dressed in military garb; no wait, there were only 2 and 1 got away; I’m sorry, he was a lone gunman; he was Budhist, not muslim; he was from Texas, no, I mean New York; etc. etc. to come.

Simple truth: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its an effing duck. Dude was a muslim jihadist.

Red Randy on September 17, 2013 at 12:41 am

naturlich
this act of
jizzlam supremacy

will be summarily dimissed
by the oval office imposter
as a reason for
law abiding citizen gun control

after all
everybody knows that only
the central gov’t has any
intention for your own good

whether you understand it or not

everybody knows that only the
demorat party looks out for the people

and of course
in their looking out for us
that’s how we have

the lord g-d
hosanna o’bama the magnificent
imperator and sovereign of
the united communist caliphates
of america

prestigio on September 17, 2013 at 1:02 am