March 19, 2007, - 11:14 am

When Rosie Fans a/k/a 9/11 “Truthers” Attack: Schlussel E-mail Hijacked; Threats of Site Shutdown

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Rush Limbaugh was right. On Friday, he said the 9/11 conspiracy theorists (including Rosie O’Donnell) are mentally ill and in need of psychiatric help (something I also wrote, late Thursday Night).
I thought the looniest e-mailers were the many Muslims who send me all kinds of nuttiness, vitriol, and grammatical dysfunction. But I was wrong. They’re still the nuttiest. But it’s a tie . . . with their allies, the 9/11 “Truthers,” the conspiracy theorists who think that the U.S. government and/or Jews were behind the 9/11 attacks, instead of the Bin Ladenite Muslims who actually perpetrated them.
Ever since I posted items, Thursday, against , as well as , I’ve been getting tons of hate-mail like this from the rest of her conspiracy hoard. I wonder how she likes being in a lunatic club of anti-Semitic bigots:


(Rosie Pig Crossing by Fred Taub/Boycott Watch)

From: chris goner raga@fsmail.net
Date: Mar 17, 2007 4:16 AM
Subject:
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Be careful bitch, when the Bush Junta’s edifice comes crashing down, those complicit in mass murder will be held to account. You won’t be blowing any zionist dicks then, you’ll be swallowing shit.

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FYI, “neocon” is a code word for “Jew”:

From: bobby splittorff bsplittorff@yahoo.com
Date: Mar 17, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: 911 blog
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Dear debbie i read your talk on what rosie said on the view, i wonder why you doubt what she stated about wtc 7, do you have answers why in history no steal buildings ever fell from fire?
Debbie tell us how a passport survived the fire from the wtc and landed on the street so the gov knew who did 911 tell us debbie with all your know how explain why theyer still highjackers still a live who supposely did 911?
Debbie explain why the new york fire dept firemen who was in the wtc building on 911 said bombs were gone off in the wtcs?
Come on debbie tell me what gov payroll your on?
Are you a true neocon who hates the truth and made money off 911.
ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU IS YOU HAVE NO FACTS YOU SPEW LIES YOU CAN,T DEBATE FACTS ON 911 I DARE YOU TO DEBATE ME.
you will loose.
BRING IT ON
robert splittorfff bsplittorff@yahoo.com

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From: robert gaytan bgaytan559@yahoo.com
Date: Mar 17, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: A concerned U.S. citizen
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
How dare you try to demonize Rosie for speaking truth to power. She’s practising her american rights freedom of speech. Or whats left of it. You right how she mentions the collapse of the towers and totally discredit her. Im sorry but you couldnt be anymore wrong with sticking to the official story. Which happens to be the biggest Conspiracy theory ever created!!!!!!!!!!! You people make me sick!!! This is why are country is going to hell in a hand basket!!

And they’ve threatened to shut down my website:

From: E D takesgut@gmail.com
Date: Mar 17, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: re: 9/11 Rosie
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
hello Debbie
what I’d like to know is, whatare you hoping to achieve now that you blasted a 9/11 truth seeker?
I mean seriously…do you want us to take your website offline? I believe that if you are smart, which you claim to be, you should simply be impartial to the story…and let your audience be the judge.
I would hate to find out that Bush had something to do with the nazis…and with the 9/11 attacks. I wonder what the invetigation results will be. Yes there is an undercover investigation that you just found out about. The information gathered so far … is well deceiving. And I think that you are on the wrong side of the fence.
Regards,
Survival of the fittest

And the 9/11 “Truthers” have hijacked my g-mail e-mail account by sending out 9/11 conspiracy theory BS to other conservative websites and to Islamist media outlets, like Al-Arabiya. If you receive this kind of baloney from this e-mail account of mine, please know that it is NOT from me. I know who was behind the 9/11 attacks: Bin Laden and other Muslims, with likely help from the government of Iran (9/11 Commission Report) and assorted others of the “Religion of Peace.”
And now I know this–we have a new epidemic of mental disease in America. I’m glad, at least, O’Donnell admitted she was mentally ill (though her upside down yoga swing maneuver isn’t helping). Time for the other third to half of Americans that believe this bizarre conspiracy theory stuff to get help. And get back on their medications.




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52 Responses

funny how the guys who whine about being suppressed and censored, are the first to threaten suppression and censorship when they’re disagreed with

sultan_knish on March 19, 2007 at 11:46 am

Talk about mentaliy ill. It’s a sad fact that people like that do exist in this country. Deb the only reason they’re threatening to hack is simple: BECUASE THEY’RE COWARDS AND ANY OPPOSING OPINIONERS MUST NOT EXIST. This is no different from how psychonuts treat me and others of my generation who show any iota of indivuality.
I used to be friends with people online that turned out to be psychonuts, thinking I’m more evil than osama bin laden!! When debating about so-called gay marrige, this girl (who looks like a goth) tries to compare it with the civil rights movement..and thinks I was being racist!! And that’s just the beginning. And yes I’ve had a threat or two about my livejournal being hacked. Hey I can explain more…but I don’t wanna take up too much of the computer screen.

Squirrel3D on March 19, 2007 at 12:08 pm

Who ever said LIBERALS were sane, rational Neanderthals?
LIBERALS believe in the First Amendment up to the point where you disagree with them. At that point, these “tolerant”, “compassionate” LIBERALS will shut you down. They are the ultimate hypocrites.
These are the same insane, irrational morons who heard bin Laden, himself – on tape – take credit for planning and executing 9/11. Yet, because LIBERALS are so filled with hatred for America and Bush, they will concoct these wild hallucinations in order to bring about this country’s demise.
These LIBERAL brain farts don’t give a rat’s ass about the following facts;
1. OBL and crew were behing the first WTC bombing, and vowed to keep trying to bring down the buildings.
2. OBL and crew were behing the embassy bombing attacks in Africa.
3. OBL and crew were behind the Khobar Tower bombing in Saudi Arabia.
4. OBL and crew were behind the attack on the USS Cole.
No, these idiots will have you believe that George Bush was behind every one of these attacks – and he wasn’t even president – they happened on Slick Willie’s watch.
Don’t waste your breath talking to a LIBERAL. Their irrational hatred for this country affects the capacity for their two brain cells to generate any sparks.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 12:17 pm

1) I’m proud to be a neocon. Any complaints?
2)Thats too damn bad for the Thorny Mic’Donald fans that America is not a Lesbian Calaphite state…..yet.
3) I think all liberal media oulets should be monitored and censored.

Jew Chick on March 19, 2007 at 12:23 pm

DEBBIE: Since when is neocon a codeword for Jew? That’s complete non-sense. I use the word neocon to refer to ANY neo-conservative with strong right wing views, regardless of their religion. If there was a right wing, anti-abortion/gay marriage MUSLIM congressman/woman/politician/whatever, they’d be a neocon. In some of the emails, the writers despicable racism/prejudice clearly shows, but please don’t try and introduce it where it’s not. Again, neocon is not a codeword for Jew.
BRUNO:Don’t try and convince yourself that it’s only liberals that believe this 9/11 pap. Being a liberal, and knowing many liberals, I know NONE that buy into a single bit of what these wackjobs are saying. So, replace the word liberal in your post with RAVING LUNATICS, and you’ll have a more accurate description.
BTW. I DON’T hate America, and I DON’T hate GWB(though I don’t agree with him either).

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 12:41 pm

There was a point in the 1990’s (when the Rapist-in-Chief was president) when Larry Flynt was the spokesman for the Democrap Party and LIBERALS. Now, it’s an equally repuslive and repugnant creature – Rosie O’Donut.
BTW, I like Rosie in that pic above. Get a load of those choppers. She’s got more teeth than Katie Couric and Jaws, combined. I guess she needs all those teeth in order to choke down the 3 sides of beef she eats for breakfast every morning. Not to mention the feeding requirements for the rest of the day.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 12:46 pm

Descent, Debbie is correct in her assertion that Neocon is also a code word for “Jew”. You don’t know it because you’ve missed many of the meetings held jointly by the LUNATIC LIBERAL ASSOCIATION of AMERICA, The ACLU, and NAMBLA.
No, seriously, Neocon is a code word for “Jew”.
BTW, you said;
“Don’t try and convince yourself that it’s only liberals that believe this 9/11 pap.”
It don’t have to TRY to convince myself, becuase it’s a FACT!
Name me one Republica, Conservative, or Neocon who believes in the theory that the US Government was behind 9/11. You can’t. It’s only the LIBERALS who believe it. The LIBERALS, along with Art Bell and Oliver Stone (remember the movie he made: JFK?)
Lastly, you may be inclined to be a LIBERAL, however, since you stated that you don’t hate America, then you’re not a true, 100% LIBERAL. Therefore, I recommend that you stop paying the monthly dues.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 12:56 pm

Descent,
You also said;
“I use the word neocon to refer to ANY neo-conservative with strong right wing views…”
Therefore, only Neocons have strong right-wing views. Regular Conservatives don’t?
You are misusing the label “Neocon”.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 12:59 pm

I’d say that the people that believe this aren’t liberal, as much as they are just insane. Like the “conspiracy theorist government is out to get me” insane.
And I’m willing to bet you money that there is an equally psychotic right-leaning portion of nut cases as there are left-leaning.
And I can’t name any right winger in particular(and I’m speaking about in Government, not on some blog) that endorses this “theory” just as you can’t name any left winger.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 1:05 pm

Regular conservatives will have strong right-wing views, but I find myself tending to agree more, at least like a little more, regular conservatives vs. neocons.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 1:08 pm

UNLIKE most of your chickenhawk readers, i called up the local recruiters before the dust even settled to volunteer my services…they turnt me down because i was 40-something THEN and maybe they’ll take me NOW that i’m pushing 50…and i’d STILL be willing to “serve” for want of a better phrase—i wanna get some REVENGE for the 100-plus friends & acquaintances that perished that fateful Tuesday.
i NOW believe that GW & Halliburton Chaney Reichskanzler fired the WTC though, and i’m totally against sending CHILDREN to go fight this bullshiite war in Iraq—but punk out now WE’re fucked—and after watching “60 Minutes” last night…have ME organize a crew and you’ll have to charge ME with more than 18 ‘murders’—IF IT MOVES SHOOT IT is the only way to fight a war.

EminemsRevenge on March 19, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Just imagine that (being sarcastic here), there are Jewish Conservatives, like Debbie and I. When the left uses the term Neocon, they mean a person of Conservative leanings that is Jewish. Yet unfortunately some people on our side use it, saying they are “regular conservatives” vs Neocons. What’s a regular conservative? (A conservvative who is Christian? Not intended to knock any religion if that is read that way.) I personally don’t go hand and hand with 100% of all Conservative views.
My conservativism, started when I grew up in a land of hippocrites in Brooklyn, a large percent Jewish neighborhood, like many around the USA. The usual chides of Republicans, they for the rich, they don’t like Jews etc. Voting Democrate was in their blood. Can still hear the (Brooklyn, almost Yiddish-like) accents as to why vote Democrat. They always elected liberals for Congress like Chucky Cheese Scheumer, among others. Guess what, they were the first to run when the segrated neighborhood became more integrated. first to boycott schools when they wanted to bus kids from outside the neighborhoods, Typical libs, do un to others but when done to yourself, scream about it, not me.
Sorry, never intended to drift to 2nd paragraph. I think it was childhood Democratic trauma. LOL.

StuLongIsland on March 19, 2007 at 1:23 pm

Descent, you said;
“And I can’t name any right winger in particular(and I’m speaking about in Government, not on some blog) that endorses this “theory” just as you can’t name any left winger.”
But those who are spouting this conspiracy theory craziness are nothing BUT LIBERALS. Name one right-wing blog that is pushing this lunatic conspiracy garbage – you won’t find any.
LIBERALS are LUNATICS.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 1:31 pm

I could just as well say conservatives are lunatics, but I don’t. I’m not saying there aren’t any conservative wack jobs, because there are, but there are also many conservatives that are very decent people. Making a blanket statement like that is ignorant.
But I understand that’s just your style.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 1:37 pm

I’d like to append my statements made earlier. Bruno is correct. MOST people that buy into this crap are liberal. Crazy fucking liberals. But that doesn’t mean EVERY liberal falls for it.
9/11 “truthers” are liberals, but not all liberals are 9/11 “truthers”.
But there are also right wingers that believe in crazy ass conspiracies about the left. Just do a google search for “left wing conspiracies”.
Like I said, each side has their wackos.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm

Descent said;
“I’d like to append my statements made earlier. Bruno is correct. MOST people that buy into this crap are liberal. Crazy fucking liberals. But that doesn’t mean EVERY liberal falls for it.”
You are correct. Not ALL LIBERALS buy into this conspiracy bullshit, however, the ones who do are LIBRERALS. You won’t find a conservative pushing this insanity.
Again, not ALL LIBS believe in this – but far too many, do.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 1:44 pm

I should have said; Not ALL LIBERALS buy into this conspiracy bullshit, however, those people who do are LIBRERALS.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 1:46 pm

Qur’an: 8:73 “The infidels aid one another. Unless you do the same there will be anarchy in the land. Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause are good Muslims.”
Qur’an: 47:4 “But if it had been Allah’s will, He Himself could have exacted retribution and punished them (without your help). But He lets you fight in order to test you. But those who are killed in Allah’s Cause, will never let their deeds go to waste.”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.”
Qur’an 5:10 “Those who reject, disbelieve and deny Our signs, proofs and verses will be companions of Hell-Fire.”
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”
Qur’an: 47:4 “So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”
Qur’an: 9:111 “Allah has purchased the believers, their lives and their goods. For them (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise). They fight in Allah’s Cause, and they slay and are slain; they kill and are killed.”
Qur’an: 4:74 “Let those who fight in the Cause of Allah sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the Cause of Allah, whether he is slain or gets victoryósoon shall We give him a great reward.”
Qur’an :8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an :7:3 “Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them.”
Qur’an: 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”
Qur’an: 59:2 “It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warningÖthey shall taste the torment of Fire.”
Qur’an: 3:150 “Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!”
Qur’an 5:17 “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ëThe Messiah, son of Mary, is God.'”
Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ëGod is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ëO Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'”
Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.”
Qur’an 5:75 “The Messiah, Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had to eat their food. See how Allah does make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded!”
Qur’an 9:30 “The Jews call Uzair the son of Allah, and the Christians say that the Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying from their mouths; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s (Himself) fights against them, cursing them, damning and destroying them. How perverse are they!”
This is why 9/11 happened. This why we wont win the “war on terror” or the war in Iraq. Nobody has read the Qu’ran…not Americans,not Europeans,not even the vast majority of so called “moderate” muslims. Democracy,Liberty,The Pursuit of Happiness is incompatible with the Qu’ran. Why do you think Muslims around the world were celebrating on 9/11??? Why do you think there wasnt same outrage from the world’s Muslim population for 9/11 as those stupid Muhammad cartoons? Why has no one ever stop to think about why the majority of terrorist organizations around the world are Islamic? Why hasn’t anybody stopped to think about why Muslims have such a disdain for Israel+Jews who did nothing to them as a whole?
Why doesn’t a single person stop think about why when anything negative about Islam or Muhammad that the so called peaceful Muslims send death threats?
The answer to all those questions is right above all my ranting and the rest is the Qu’ran. The war against “terror” is a winless war if fought by weapons. Why haven’t we learned from Somolia? Does Black Hawk Down ring a bell? Why it is that the Somolia of the mid 90’s is resurfacing again today? Darfur,Sudan guess who’s carrying out the genocide in Darfur??? Just take a wild guess Islamists.And no if you read the Qu’ran there is no such thing as radical islamists because according to
Qur’an: 8:73 “The infidels aid one another. Unless you do the same there will be anarchy in the land. Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause are good Muslims.”
radical islamists are not radical at all. They’re considered “Good” Muslims by the Qu’ran. Another thing to think about. Among the 52 Islamic that exist in the world…only Turkey is a democracy. 90% of the rest are dictatorships or monarchies because as stated earlier Islam is incompatible with liberty,democracy and the pursuit of happiness. One last thing i’m quite sure you worldly people have noticed about the Muslim world. Is it any coincidence that all of the Islamic nations are economically in the toilet?? That almost all of them have horrible records on human rights? Women’s rights? etccc? And I guess its no surprise that Islamic nations who aren’t lucky enough to be sitting on oil reserves are among the poorest nations on Earth?
I don’t hate Muslims but somebody has to tell the Truth about Islam. Islam has enslaved 1.4 Billion mindless morons who seek world domination if u don’t believe me ask a Muslim what a caliphate is. We need religiously aware about whats going on.Religiously aware that the Qu’ran justifies the killing of us Non-Muslims. Personally I think its too late as we have 1.4 billion potential enemies who’s holy book instructs them to kill us its really simple. I’m proud of our troops bravery and sacrifice but the truth is that our military and president has sent to do an impossible mission. The same way Clinton sent our troops to do an impossible mission in Somolia. The war in Somolia,Afghanistan,and Iraq were all lost before they even started. This what happening when leaders make hastily decisions based on ulterior motives. You want to know why the Insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan will never go away?
Qur’an: 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ëWipe the infidels out to the last.'”
Qur’an: 5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption, making mischief in the land [those who refuse to surrender to Islam] is murder, execution, crucifixion, the cutting off of hands and feet on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. That is their degradation and disgrace in this world. And a great torment of an awful doom awaits them in the hereafter. Except for those who repent (and become Muslims) before you overpower them and they fall into your control.”
In the eyes of Muslims they are doing God’s work by fighting against our troops and soldiers which why this war is a winless war because there will always be a pool of mujahideen (Islamic holy fighters). On top of Islam’s endless supply of warriors , the Qu’ran instructs that martyrdom is the quickest way to Allah.So lets just sit and imagine a bit what our troops are facing in the Middle East. A endless pool of enemies who fear not death and more important believe that they will be rewarded by their God for killing infidels (our troops,and coalition forces)and or dieing for the will of their God Allah.
Qur’an: 4:74 “Let those who fight in the Cause of Allah sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the Cause of Allah, whether he is slain or gets victoryósoon shall We give him a great reward.”
I don’t want to be pessimistic but I think the fate of world is written in stone if we don’t do something about this now.

the_don on March 19, 2007 at 1:53 pm

Dear Debbie;
In addition to believing in things that can’t possibly be true, the people who hate your guts appear to be extremely stupid.
Sincerely;
EJO

EJO on March 19, 2007 at 1:55 pm

Thee_bruno said”
I should have said; Not ALL LIBERALS buy into this conspiracy bullshit, however, those people who do are LIBRERALS.”
and, you’re correct.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 1:57 pm

It’s hard to believe the people who sent those emails can walk and chew gum.
Debbie, I’m sorry that you and others who stand up and point out this drivel are getting such hate mail and are in danger. I truly respect people who stand up to this.
Thank you for posting these. We NEED to know who we are up against. These people are mentally ill and are rabid dogs that will need to be put down, not *reasoned* with..for there is no reasoning with people who say and do such horrible crimes. I hope you turn some of the violent emails into the FBI. People need to know that firing off a threatening email just may get them inconvenienced and questioned and their email provider should be notified of threats.

Highrise on March 19, 2007 at 2:18 pm

Sorry for all the typos and grammatical errors but I have one last thing to add. Saddam Hussein,Osama Bin Laden and other Islamic tyrants are revered in the Muslim world??? One might ask why? They represent Islam for what it truly is which why they are knowingly hiding Osama Bin Laden. He’s has a god-like status among Muslims in the Middle East and parts of Africa. Also discovered some disturbing things about Iran’s late Grand Ayatollah Khoemini.This was the type man that Muslims seem to have to problem rallying behind no matter how perverted or illogical he was.
These are some of his quotes from his book entitled “Tahrirolvasyleh” circa 1990
“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives.”
“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”
ìIf one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.î
Examples:
“Don’t listen to those who speak of democracy. They all are against Islam. They want to take the nation away from its mission. We will break all the poison pens of those who speak of nationalism, democracy, and such things.”
“Do not interrupt the activities. You all have to obey the Islamic Republic. And if you don’t, you all will vanish.”
“Those who are against us are like cancer tumors that need to be removed surgically; otherwise they will corrupt everything.” “These writings, these speeches, these wrong activities, these democratic programs are separations from Islam. All these voices are blasphemy and are atheistic.”
Now I dare any logical Muslim to come defend a man who make these kind of statements as acceptable laws for Shi’a muslims

the_don on March 19, 2007 at 2:31 pm

More degenerate sickness coming from Ayatollah Khoemini. And this barbarian is still glorified by the primitive savages in Iran.
You know, for a society that condemns the West for its so-called decadence, islam is consumed by sex. Many of its tenets and laws revolve around sex – sex, with kids, forced sex, sex with 72 virgins.
What a sexed-up cult.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 2:42 pm

Bruno, I believe I’ve said it before, but the youth of Iran are largely out of touch with the religious elders that are running the country. They’re way more westernized that we imagine them to be and would probably be more than willing to assimilate into western culture if given the chance. They’re already protesting and attempting to change things as much as they can. Still, they’re out numbered, but I doubt that will last. Eventually I see Iran becoming one of the most democratic/free states in the east. We/They just need to get rid of Ahmendijanddadads(Who, trust me, does not speak on behalf of the country. He’s simply a puppet put there by the mulahs. He just got a little egotistical and runs his mouth constantly), and the theocracy that’s currently pulling his strings, and replace it with a more western style democracy.
(as a side note, their current style of government is actually very complex and does have some of the traits of a democratic system, including real elected officials and very complex series of checks and balances)

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 3:16 pm

And thats the whole Irony of Islam society. Its laughable how they separate Women and Men and repress natural sexuality. Just like you’ve said in a previous posting that the underside of this homosexuality and bestiality. And to them its not considered “homosexuality” or “bestiality” along as their is no emotion connection to the act. They use that same logic to justify rape. Google the word halekon and see what it says. The irony is that homosexuality is punishable by death.

the_don on March 19, 2007 at 3:20 pm

Descent,
I agree with an overwhelming majority of what you said. It is true and accurate.
One part of where I disagree is here; “including real elected officials”. The people in national government are not elected in open and fair elections by the voters. The elections are rigged and the politicos are selected by the religious maniacs. You, yourself, said that the mullahs are the true architects of Ahmendijanddadad’s rise to power.
Additionally, although I agree with the rest of what you said, no true democracy (as we know it) could exist in an islamic country because islam is incompatible with democracy and its inherent rights and freedoms. Sharia Law trumps all other law – all other rights – and all other freedoms.
Good post.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 4:38 pm

amen nobody could say it any better

the_don on March 19, 2007 at 4:47 pm

The Don,
If you want to talk about conspiracy theories, you mentioned Quran 9:111. Does that chapter ring a bell? 9/11/01. Yes I know there’s a zero in there but Mohammed Atta used 911 as the first three letters in one of his fake social security numbers, six months to a year prior to the attacks. He was the one in charge of when the attacks occured. It’s no accident 9/11 happened that day.

Minnie Mouse on March 19, 2007 at 4:56 pm

True no “true democracy” may be able to exist in a Islamic society, but I think that if the youth eventually take hold of the government, they’ll attempt to implement some type of seperation between church and state. They would overthrow the theocracy. The youth over there are WAY more secular and casual about Islam than we give them credit for. Search for REAL pictures of Iran and you’ll see women with their head peice nearly completely off, dressed just as American women do.
That being said, it’s up in the air. Every change has a chance to be a change for the worse, so some big shake up like that could happen, and things would just go to shit, but I like to look at things glass half full sometimes.

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on March 19, 2007 at 5:13 pm

Well, let’s hope that the change will be swift and for the better.

Thee_Bruno on March 19, 2007 at 5:18 pm

Right on, Debbie! These 9-11 conspiracy jackasses are loons, no question. Their “facts” are never correct once you look into them, and they will never believe evidence that contradicts their opinions. They are just like creationists. These 9-11 freaks are more dangerous than creationists, though, because a lot of them are vicious anti-semites, as you point out. Their ridiculous rants and “proof” of conspiracies would be hilarious, they’re so stupid, except these people are very, very serious. Which is why you’re right that they are mentally ill. Good luck slamming these dickwads.
Agent Pendergast
nightwing623@hotmail.com

Agent Pendergast on March 19, 2007 at 5:36 pm

Ms Schlussel, we are tracing the threatening email addresses posted above, and I will be sending out the black helicopters, with Mossad agents, to kidnap and torture them.
signed, your handlers
p.s. Liberalism is a mental disorder

Dr.Dale on March 19, 2007 at 8:34 pm

Thee bruno said.
ìYou know, for a society that condemns the West for its so-called decadence, islam is consumed by sex. Many of its tenets and laws revolve around sex – sex, with kids, forced sex, sex with 72 virgins.
What a sexed-up cult.î
Question..Is it not the church thatís grappling with sex abuse and child molestationÖ!?!

sue-me on March 19, 2007 at 8:35 pm

Minnie mouse here is another theory
JFK Doodle Predicted “9-11 Conspiracy”
Weird Associated Press report suggests unimaginable spooky coincidence..read
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/190906jfkpredicted.htm
By the way the correct version of the verse 9.111 isÖ,
9:111] GOD has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for Paradise. Thus, they fight in the cause of GOD, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran – and who fulfills His pledge better than GOD? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.

sue-me on March 19, 2007 at 8:43 pm

I am a Creationist. You, Agent Pendergast, do not know that of which you speak. You seem to fear that which you do not understand. You do not need to fear Creationists. We will not harm you.
I am reminded of words from an old Jewish history book:
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
There now, that didn’t hurt, did it? Mello out.
There are many things that cannot be revealed. Call that a coverup? Yes, certainly, and perhaps necessary. President Bush said so after 9/11. He said there would be things done he couldn’t talk about. I’m sure there are many heroes and deeds done we will not know about for many years. Events from WWII are still being revealed. 2007 – 1945 = 62 years of coverup.

Dr.Dale on March 19, 2007 at 9:04 pm

Debbie you are a real bitch!
You should be shot!
Rossie has great courage to stand upto a prick like you.
Your going to hell you fucking nwo worshipper.
We Support Rosie!!

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:18 pm

DEBBIE YOU ARE A REAL BITCH
BURN IN HELL YOU ASSHOLE
ROSSIE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BEAT THE SHIT OUTTA THIS DEBBIE BITCH

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:20 pm

Debbie schlussel is an evil horrible person, I hope she gets run over by a bus.

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:29 pm

Go rosie!! Rosie is a patriot and a hero!!!
Rosie, You make america Proud!!
Pay no mind to that whore debbie

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:30 pm

With all the “the Don said” we must acknowledge that all who practice in this cult cannot be free of it unless they renounce it or else it will suck them back in.
I disagree with you on the premise that we cannot win this fight and that it’s finality is already ordained. We are brought up to respect peaceful existance but we are also trained though life via sports that you must fight for victory. So wi the backs of many against the wall evil has been defeated before and it will be done so again when the time is right a strong leader shall come just as Joshua, Sampson Saul, David, Alexander, Ceasar, Washington, Grant Churchill, Patton, Eisenhower, McArthur….one will appear as history dictates it should.

warpmine on March 19, 2007 at 9:42 pm

I hope this debbie prick gets hit by a car.
We love you Rosie!!

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:46 pm

Debbie Schlussel Is a MURDERER!!
She was in on the conspiracy!!!
Jail her now.

sleepy2k16 on March 19, 2007 at 9:59 pm

It seems that the First Amendment brings out the ones that never use it.
Hang in there. For us that do.

seealis on March 20, 2007 at 12:10 am

Debbie Schlussel
What does 9/11 Truth have to do with antisemitism?
How can you consider yourself a real journalist when you obviously don’t know what you are talking about?
How dare you quote Rush Limbaugh? He is an admitted druggie. Do you ever wonder why people respond to you in the manner they do? Or does your ego blind your view into the vanity mirror? Debbie you are anti-American and real patriots can see right through your glass image. Debbie I highly doubt you have conducted the proper amount of research to even debate 9/11. Instead of debating Rosie with the facts surrounding the collapse of wtc 7, you simply resort to ad-hominem attacks. You are a perfect candidate for the Inner Party.
Keep feeding your readers what they want to hear, as for the rest of freethinking America, we will keep pressing for the truth. This is only the beginning. Simply writing people off as “nutjobs” is completely discrediting your argument. Debbie only if you knew what real Americans think about you. I bet if you had the foggiest idea about who you are as a person, you would humbly resign as a journalist and get a job at Wal-mart.
http://www.myspace.com/fightnwo
websites to check out.
“Many 9/11 survivors and many 9/11 victim family members have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11.”
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html
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http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
http://stj911.org/
http://www.patriotamerica.com/JackMcLamb/JackMcLamb.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://alexansary.com/
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This is the website that broke the Rosie story
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
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Below: A film made the victims families.
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
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Debunk this website. Good luck.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

Leo/Fightnwo on March 20, 2007 at 12:58 am

Debbie the people who are leaving these horrible comments about you, are not 9/11 Truthers. They are either Centcom ops or debunker’s trying to make 9/11 Truthers look bad.

Leo/Fightnwo on March 20, 2007 at 1:05 am

You’ve gathered enough nuts here to feed the squirrels of the world. There certainly is an abundance of psychos and cretins orbiting planet Rosie.

BobG on March 20, 2007 at 7:35 am

Art Bell is now posting as Leo/Fatwah.

Thee_Bruno on March 20, 2007 at 8:02 am

a psychotherapist wrote:
“These conspiracy theorists are usually very bright, but they have an emotional weak spot. They reacted to the events of 9/11 with a sense of helplessness and powerlessness, which generated anxiety and fear in them. Their emotional priority was to scramble for safety, which they found in the world of fantasy. In self-deception, they developed a conspiracy fiction that they soon transformed into non-fiction and proclaimed to be absolute certainty. Religious fundamentalists, too, use rigid beliefs to develop certainty about the nature of the world. In both cases, the certainty doesn’t have to be rational; all that matters is that the belief has a stabilizing, calming, or grounding effect, like that of nicotine or alcohol.”

Dr.Dale on March 20, 2007 at 8:08 am

That’s just a bunch of psychobabble. These conspiracy nutjobs do this because they hate America and Bush…period!

Thee_Bruno on March 20, 2007 at 11:38 am

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