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July 26, 2012, - 1:56 pm

Alex Gilady: Meet the Jewish Israeli IOC Kapo Behind the Olympic Refusal to Remember Slain Israeli Athletes

By Debbie Schlussel

Israel’s and the Jews worst enemies are not Muslims. They are Israel and the Jews. And so it goes with Alex Gilady, Israel’s member of the International Olympic Committee, one of the biggest sellouts of Israel and the Jewish people in contemporary times. A multi-millionaire, he acquired his wealth by selling out Israel and the Jewish people to Egypt and the International Olympic Committee. And now he’s done it again by leading the opposition to an Olympic memorial to the Israeli athletes murdered in cold blood by Islamic terrorists at the Munich Olympics. While historically, the IOC refuses to remember these slain athletes, Blessed Be Their Memories, to appease Muslims and Islamic nations, this time around, they have a Jew, officially representing Israel, leading the cause.

For more than two decades, I’ve been speaking out about the outrageous International Olympic Committee refusal to memorialize the Israeli athletes slain at the Munich Olympic Games in 1972. And while the Olympic Games have a near-century history of anti-Semitism from Avery Brundage to Jacques Rogge, this time around the refusal to recognize the Israeli athletes who gave their lives for this over-hyped, meaningless faux-amateur sports-fest rests not just on Rogge and the IOC’s pandering to Muslims. Nope, this time around, it’s Israel’s Jewish representative to the IOC, Gilady, who is leading the charge with Rogge, to deny these slaughtered athletes some recognition as the victims of Islamic terrorism. Like many of the corruptocrat Israelis appointed by Israel to the IOC, Mr. Gilady is a far-left journalist who is more interested in money and riches than doing the right thing for his country.

Alex Gilady, a Sephardic Jew born in Muslim Iran, would clearly be an uber-kapo if the Holocaust were going on today, instead of the London Olympic Games. Israel’s TV news and newspapers are notoriously self-hating, anti-Israel, and far-left. And Gilady came up through those ranks. He worked for Israel’s state-run TV and also for Yediot Ahronot, both of which were and continue to be as anti-Israel as the mainstream media here. His uber-liberal “journalism” is the reason he was granted the first Israeli passport to Egypt. He was rewarded with this because he was a non-stop pimp for the Camp David Peace Accords and the amputation of the Sinai to Egypt in exchange for a piece of paper that is especially meaningless now that the Muslim Brotherhood took over (an easily predictable development). And since he played his loyal role for the left in Israel’s press, the liberal Yitzchak Rabin-led Israeli government in 1993 rewarded Mr. Gilady with a sweetheart, no-competitive-bid deal to buy and run Israel’s first privately-owned television station. That’s made him rich beyond his wildest dreams, and his television station regularly spouted anti-Israel leftism. But all of that was after, he’d already made a mint by doing business with the International Olympic Committee as a European Union journalist (and we all know how anti-Israel the EU is) and as an employee of NBC, since 1981. He was NBC’s liaison to the IOC and its Vice President of Global Operations. Gilady was instrumental in getting the network its exclusive long-term deal to broadcast the Olympics in the U.S. through 2008, which made him big bucks. And you don’t get those broadcast rights and the big bucks that come with them, by pushing the Olympics to recognize slain Israeli athletes. By the way, NBC’s approval was necessary for Gilady to own the Israeli television station while he remained on the network’s payroll. And that approval was easily granted because, hey, he’d never advocate for Israeli memorials at the Olympics and jeopardize NBC’s Olympic megabucks. Yes, this is clearly not a man who will ever represent Israeli interests on the IOC, but rather his own left-wing and bank account interests.

And the relatives of the slain Israeli athletes say that Mr. Gilady is not only just one vote against memorializing the Israeli athletes at the Olympics. He’s the leading force against it, they say. And they’re right. Sources say Mr. Gilady–along with Mr. Rogge–aggressively lobbied all other members of the IOC to vote against an official memorial at the London Games. Gilady claims that he voted against it because he’s afraid of a backlash. Uh-huh . . . a backlash against his bank account. His stark conflicts of interest should have disqualified Gilady from ever being nominated by Israel to serve on the IOC. But that’s what Israel does: never missing an opportunity for self-flagellation. It’s Jewish guilt on steroids. And a shtetl mentality that should have died with the Holocaust, but sadly was nurtured by its memories.

Israel’s IOC member, Alex Gilady, is among those opposed to having a moment of silence in the London opening ceremony, a stand many in his country find incomprehensible.

Gilady’s rationale is simple: he remembers when Israel was thrown out of the Asian Olympic Association in 1981 and could not get another continental sports affiliation until the efforts of people including Rogge helped Israel become a member of the European Olympic Committees in 1994. Gilady fears a moment of silence will create a backlash endangering Israel’s place in international sport.

Actually that’s not “simple” at all. More simple is the truth: Alex Gilady has financial (and ideologically far left) interests that trump Israeli and Jewish interests and he has no biz being Israel’s representative to anything.

“I believe I am acting in best interest of Israeli sport,” Gilady said in a telephone interview. “For me, the most important thing at the moment is that Israel have stages to compete on….I hope the moment will come we can have appropriate commemoration in the Olympic stadium for the Israelis killed in Munich.”

When might that be?

“When we have a better environment,” he said. “When there is peace.”

[Ankie] Spitzer [widow of murdered Munich Olympic Israeli coach, Andre Spitzer], 66, a Middle East correspondent for Dutch and Belgian television networks, calls Gilady, “the main obstacle.”

What utter bullcrap (by Gilady)!

Again, the Jews’ and Israel’s worst enemies are themselves. Not Iran, not Islam, but the dhimmitude and kapoism to which they incomprehensibly insist on clinging. It says a lot that NBC’s face of the Olympics, Bob Costas (a true mensch, despite being a liberal), and even anti-Israel Barack Hussein Obama advocate a moment of silence and a memorial for the slain Israeli athletes, but Israel’s Israeli In Name Only representative to the IOC actively worked to stop it. He’s the guy who’d be shoving you and me into the ovens for an extra cup of potato gruel in Auschwitz.

With “friends” like Alex Gilady, who needs Iran and other Islamic enemies? If only we could send him back in time and trade him for the Israelis in that poorly-secured Olympic dormitory in Munich.

But that would be too kind.

For more information, check out the Munich Eleven website and join our Facebook Group, “The IOC Should Memorialize the Israeli Athletes Murdered by Islamic Terrorists in Munich.”

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62 Responses

What a disgrace that Gilady is. Thanks for this story, Debbie.

DS_ROCKS! on July 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Debbie, thanks for the information that we would otherwise never see. You do great work..

PDMac60 on July 26, 2012 at 2:24 pm

I want to comment on some of the statements atributed to Gilady.

1) ‘Gilady fears a moment of silence will create a backlash endangering Israel’s place in international sport.’

Backlash? backlash from whom? Much of the world supports this or will be silent. It is only Islam that woud oppose it, andthese people support what happened in 1972.

2) ‘“When we have a better environment,” he said. “When there is peace.”’

This is totally nutty. The Muslims won’t let there be peace until Iranian nukes have done their job. In other words there will not be a commemoraton for the Israeli athletes until there is no more Israel.

I_AM_ME on July 26, 2012 at 2:35 pm

As far as I’m concerned the Israeli team should simply impose its own minute of silence while they’re getting into the stadium at the opening ceremony… Yes, a bunch of people will get their knickers all twisted up… So what?!… What can they do?!… Send the Israeli team home and show their real face to the whole world?!…

Either way it’s a win/win proposition…

By the way, the credit for this idea goes to Elder of Ziyon!… It’s on his blog that I saw this proposition…

Hans on July 26, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Why is it necessary to mention that Gilady is Sephardic?

Italkit on July 26, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Sorry, I hit “submit: too soon.
When you talk about Anthony Weiner, you don’t say “Ashkenazi” Jew. Same with Bloomberg or any of the other JINO’s you regularly and rightly criticize here. What are you trying to say, Debbie?

I: I’ve barely ever written about Weiner, and I think it’s relevant since Gilady was born in Iran–to parents who saw Muslim persecution of Jews–and yet, he still sells out. Plus he looks Ashkenazi, so people won’t know, had I not mentioned it. DS

Italkit on July 26, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Also Italkit (as I realize you know this stuff inside and out) I find it educational to learn these things. As a non-Jew I don’t know these things (or very little) and it puts the puzzle together for people like myself who are interested in Judaism but are pretty ignorant on the ways and info on such things.

Skunky on July 26, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Skunky, what great knowledge did DS impart? Who cares if he “looks” Ashkenazi except a bigot who doesn’t want her group to be associated with the behavior? Iran borders Russia. There was intermarriage and a lot of Iranians look Russian. Debbie has been writing a lot of good articles of late but she really has to deal with the “blonds have more fun” deception. It is demeaning to all of us.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 2:56 am

Italkit, let me say it again since you did not get it the FIRST time. Not all of us here are Jews. That means we don’t know much about the religion. I have learned a lot here that I did knot know. What the hell is wrong with that?

You have a bug up your arse on this and I don’t totally get it. Perhaps it is because I am not Jewish and do not know the nuances of certain things in relation to it but you’re getting in my way by not understanding that those of us who like the lines filled on things we are ignorant on don’t deserve it!

Skunky on July 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Oh and heaven forbid a “pure” Ashkenazi should be mistaken for an Iranian. That’s my point, Weiner is married to a member of the Muslim Brotherhood but you don’t think it’s important to mention that he’s Ashkenazi when it was mostly Ashkenazim who were persecuted and slaughtered by the Germans and their close allies the Muzzies. That right there IS racism, Ms. Schlussel. The point is you have written about Weiner and other Ashkenazim whom you’ve categorized, rightly as JINOs but never as Ashkenazim even tho it was you who have mentioned the NAZI-Muslim nexus.
Let me tell you something. I don’t care about the Olympics or any stupid gestures. If we really cared about honoring those athletes, 1972 would have been the last Olympics Israel participated in. The following year, we fought a war we almost lost to those same murdering enemies because we didn’t do enough and then the ASHKENAZI establishment goes groveling and begging for the World’s approval for every move it makes. It was ASHKENAZI Prime MInister and Defense ministers who caved to James Baker’s demands we stand down during GW1.
Sephardim have lived with Muslims for thousands of years and yes, there were persecutions but we learned to survive and thrive and not be shoved into poverty stricken ghettos where our women were kept ignorant. Sephardi women can all recite the entire prayer service by heart, can you?

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 2:52 am

Italkit, I’m Israeli-born, Ashkenazi, who, as a kid, grew up in a neighbourhood were all the kids were Sepharadim, and I was bullied, badly. Because of this reason. So, don’t tell me these nonsense about why mention it, because Sepahradic people made a habbit out of crying that they were not treated equally. I’m really tired of Sepharadim crying and complaining that they haven’t been treated equally, because that’s the only thing that they do, and they get away with it. And as to the leaders of Israel, well, why don’t you stop crying and go look for a leader from the Sepharadim to be the next leader of this country? All I know about the Sepharadim is that they lead Shas, and even Sepharadim don’t like them, because they represent ONLY the Haredim. So, do yourself a favor and stop whining, Do something, let’s see how good you are. As you know, tald is cheap, actually it’s FREE!

Talia on July 29, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Giladi was born in Iran to Polish-Jewish parents. He was one of the “Tehran Children” who made their way to Israel via Iran. He is not Sephardic.

SG on July 28, 2012 at 7:26 am

Debbie responded to you and pointed out in general Sephardic Jews know very well who the Arabs and Iranians are. They lived under them.

There are always exceptions to the rule like Alex Gilady. For them – its important to avoid jeopardizing their power and privilege and they are embarrassed to be proud Jews! This goes against the anti-Semitic stereotype Jews are far too powerful and only look out for their own kind.

Maybe that’s why Gilady isn’t doing it but its wrong here cuz Jews are human beings. If not now is the time to pay tribute to the memory of the slain Israeli Olympians, when would be right time to ever do it?

High standards in life are important and leaders in particular owe a sense of noblesse oblige to others. Gilady isn’t doing that and its appropriate to call him out on it. The last thing he should be doing is acting like Jews and Israelis don’t belong in the Olympic human family.

That is exactly what he has been doing and is the reason why Debbie posted this piece here today.

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 4:49 pm

And whether he’s Ashkenazi or Seph. is irrelevant to that argument, Norman. He’s a Jew or JINO regardless and it’s totally irrelevant. Would Obama be a better person if he was white? No. He’s not a creep because he’s black. He’s a creep because he’s what he is inside.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 2:59 am

The Olympic commitee epitomizes hypocrisy too. The world’s still waiting for it to “recognize” the senseless slaughter of an entire Israeli Olympic at the 1972 games in- off all places-Munich! A shameful act- or lack thereof.

Patrick on July 26, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Perhaps Debbie referred to him as Sephardic because to many readers, his name would not immediately be taken as Jewish, as Weiner’s is.

The comparison to kapos is apt. In the late 30s, the support of rich Jews in the US for FDR was legendary. They overlooked his antisemitism, his refusal to allow refugees from Nazism into the country, his refusal to bomb the concentration camps, his softness towards the fascists throughout the 30s, and so on.

Today, their descendents are supporting Obama at the expense of their own people, and prior to that, they supported Bill Clinton, similarly at the expense of their people.

Many of them supported Jewish quotas at universities prior to the 60s (and of course, again today, in the guise of ‘affirmative action’), on the grounds that the Jews admitted (non-Sephardic kids from Eastern European families in most cases), did not have good manners, and would ’cause a backlash’ that would adversely affect their more civilized brethren. Of course, as long as their own children got in.

Political and financial opportunity have always been first with these people.

Little Al on July 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Stop making excuses. She could have said “Iranian” which is germane to her response to me. Sephardic children were systematically stolen from their parents who were told they died in the camps but in reality were given to Ashkenazi families so they could be raised as “real Jews.” Ashkenazi, German refugee doctors performed some of the same experiments on our children and women as were performed on them by their NAZI teachers. Don’t believe me? Go do some research. It’s all online and documented and I can’t do it because it makes me sick.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 3:02 am

I wonder if this douchebag is a direct descendant of Josephus?

Jonathan Grant on July 26, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Jews can be cruel to Jews. No one knows why.

But even rabid anti-Semites can show kindness on an exceptional Jew.

New evidence has shown Hitler saved a Jewish war comrade – Ernst Hess from his fellow Nazis.

Now why can’t Alex Gilady do more and stop politicizing what is basically a moral gesture. If he wants to wait for “peace” to come to institutionalize the memory of fellow murdered Jews into the Olympic human family, it will never happen.

Jon, all we want is that the Jews should be better than their worst archenemy. He acted on behalf of ONE Jew. Now what’s Gilady’s excuse for not pushing the IOC to do the right thing because his selfish interests and seat on the IOC are more important than doing the right thing by Israel?

Debbie’s work here is not in vain. Naming and shaming can push powerful people to do the right thing. Let hope something good comes out of it and never give up!

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 4:34 pm

The worst anti-Semites are Jews.

Sad and true. They make anti-Semitism intellectually and emotionally respectable.

Hey, if a Jew is against Israeli policies, that means the opposition is justified, correct?

Not exactly! It doesn’t always pass Natan Sharansky’s “3 D Test On Anti-Semitism.

And Alex Gilady should know – he’s helped the IOC to continue their reprehensible policy position on memorializing the slain Israeli athletes and coaches cuz hey – their “Court Jew” Gilady is also against what all of Israel’s friends in the Western World want.

Muslim Jew and Israel haters have nothing on him when it comes to self-abasement and self-hatred. Jews have been historically very good at it and they will be again in the future.

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 4:24 pm

Yes Norman, and the worst Jew on Jew anti-semitism is perpetrated by Ashkenazim against Sephardim and Ethiopians. We are not considered “real” Jews because of many reasons, all born in the fact we are “brown” and not white. That witch, Meir, actually had the chutzpah to stand in front of the Knesset plenum and declare, in Yiddish, “if you don’t speak Yiddish, you aren’t a real Jew.” This was said in Yiddish despite the presence of Sephardi MK’s. We hear a lot about the Russian “brain drain” well let me tell you, we’ve had a lot larger Sephardi brain drain because the Ashkenazi masters decided the Sephardi kids were too stupid and didn’t have the brain power to handle University. People who are Doctors and Lawyers outside Israel were told their “career” track should be that of street sweepers and garbage men.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 3:09 am

Debbie,

This is one area which I totally agree with you, that the Isreali Athletes should be memorialized at the games in London. However, you have to remember several things about the games after that event:

1. Even though the hostage situtiaion was still going on.
The organizers waited one hour at most, and then
restarted them without even waiting to see what would
happen at the end.

2. They held a short memorial service afterwards but kept
them going. (I still remember the farce of a
basketball game that year).

3. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has never
wanted to own up to what happened that year.

My only question is that where did you get the resources that Giladys spearheaded the effort to not to give a memorial to the Isreali Athletes? I did my own reseach on the net afterr reading this and just found his name and that he has been on the Board of the IOC since the Athens games.

I also still don’t like how you demean all people who disagree with you as being “ulber-liberal”. BTW, I read in my local paper today that Mitt Romney voted against a memorial at the Utah Winter games a few years ago, only to appeal for a memorial this year (Politics).

Personally, I don’t know if I am going to watch much of the games this year. Partially due to their ongoing refusal to even give one minute of silence to the victims. I also am very wary of the fact that professional athletes are allowed in the games now. If I rememember as a child, the games were for amaturs. This all started after the Taiwan games only because we came in 3rd in basketball. The world caught up with us in the sport, so the US had to find a way to be dominant again so it brought in our NBA All – Stars. I still liked it better when we had a college All – American team on the floor.

A Reader on July 26, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Why isn’t Comcast/NBC and its CEO Brian Roberts
called out for not featuring a story on the
72 Olympics.
Roberts has competed in the Israeli Olympics
and is big in the B.O. Fried Chicken Cabinet.

Commander Zsvartz on July 26, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Commander,

I am sure NBC/Comcast will do some type of presentation on the 1972 manslaughter as they have done with all Olympics.

A Reader on July 26, 2012 at 5:38 pm

I fully expect the state run media to blame the massacre of Israeli athletes not on the “Religion of peace,” but on Chick-fil-A! The “Religion of peace” is untouchable in this country. Am I the only one recognizing that they have a “Friend in high places” here?

herbster on July 27, 2012 at 8:41 am

Herbster,

You’re right about the MSM and their stupidity. Just because Dan Cathy of Chick-fil-A doesn’t believe in gay marriage the LGBTLSDPMSDNC crowd has their panties in a bunch.

Ken b on July 27, 2012 at 11:34 am

Yep, as I learn more of and support Israel and the Jews more I am finding out that they ARE their worst enemies.

I don’t get it. It is so clear the evil that is Islam and yet, they hurt themselves much more than the bad-intent Mooooooslims.

I will never, ever get it. I have always hated when someone has to be nice to their (sometimes covert, sometimes not) natural enemy. It’s not only weak but supremely stupid!

No Olympics for me. I used to love it before I knew about the seamy underbelly. Also the IOC has to be very backwards and evil…I remember back when Beijing was awarded the host duties (when I was so less politically savvy) and I thought that was pretty crappy…places like China should NOT be able to host such events (but we are also in debt to them so….) but the IOC saw no problemo with that. No wonder those freaks don’t wanna do what should come easy and be obvious!

Skunky on July 26, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Reader, Debbie has a link to the newspaper article that provides this information. Just follow the link.

Little Al on July 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm

Little Al,

I just read Debbie’s link. It seems as though there are some politics to this. My best guess is that Gladys thought he was doing the right thing so that Israel can participate in some type of athletic forum. Do I think he’s right? I really don’t know. We also don’t know where his orders came from.

What I am hoping but doubt will happen tomorrow night at the opening cermony is that the Israeli Athletes will have a rememberance of thier own. They have never gone that route but maybe it’s about time.

A Reader on July 26, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Debbie, your muslim hate clouds important facts in your head. The IOC is not pandering to muslims, xtianity is just as if not more anti semitic than muslims, the ‘palestinian’ cause is not an islamic one. This is one of the biggest misconceptions the right use, and that’s why we’re losing this war. The PLO was headed by Xtians, George Havash, was a Greek Palestinian, and Sabeel enjoys the support of the American churches, more influential than Evangelical Churches.

The west is not anti Israel or anti Jewish because of muslims, it’s because of it’s xtian roots. I’ve noticed you downplay xtian anti-semitism, and only blame anti semitism coming from muslims as religious. Please learn more, and see how deep the roots are.

Arab Christians who emigrated to the US are more rabidly anti Israel and anti semitic, even more than CAIR, i’d say. they’re against Israel, (Jams Zogby, octavia nasr, helen Thomas to name just a few) because they’re xtian and believe as do most of xtianity, that Israel lost it’s right to the land by rejecting Jesus. Wake up.

What is worse, is that the kapos like Alex Gilady, like and pander to the these jew haters.

S: Clearly, you are not a regular reader of my site or you wouldn’t make incorrect corrections and false, defamatory statements about me. I’ve repeatedly called out anti-Israel Christian Arabs, including Copts, George Habash, Helen Thomas, Jim Zogby, Octavia Nasr, etc. Premature articulation not attractive, sir. DS

Shlomo on July 26, 2012 at 7:11 pm

Shlomo, you’d be right about Christian Arabs.

But you’re wrong about Christian Americans. Most of them strongly support Israel – which sadly, many American Jews do not.

But you’re wrong about Muslim anti-Semitism which goes back to Mohammed. Anti-Zionism was simply the latest incarnation of the age-old Muslim hatred of the Jews. They hate the Jews, period. Israel is simply an excuse for them to perpetuate that hate.

If you had been a regular reader of this site, you’d acknowledge it.

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 8:33 pm

NormanF

Evangelical christians are not at the root of power. Never were. Their support doesn’t translate to anything meaningful, unless you mean words alone count?

You are wrong when you say ‘most’ American Christians, because most are liberal, and the liberal xtian churches are anti Israel.

Xtian anti semites don’t strap on bombs, but they do support the Pals unconditionally and most imporantantly, unlike Evangelicals, they are in influential positions.

It is comfy for right wing Jewish dreamers to delude themselves, but this false cocoon will we ripped off and you’ll be left wondering why you were so naive. Wake up, man.

Shlomo on July 27, 2012 at 11:18 am

Debbie,

I think you are missing Shlomo’s point. He’s not just raising your non – existant criticism of Christian Anti – Semitism in general. I can name quite a few of these people, but I want you to think of these people. I am not just talking about James Baker, Mike Huckabee and a few others who you have named in the past.These are people who would change America and the Freedoms we currently have in a minute.

As far as Muslims, I totally agree with him, they are not as quite rapidly anti-semitic, only the very radical ones.

A Reader on July 26, 2012 at 8:06 pm

A Reader, I know the regulars here are privy to your disgusting fence-sitting aka Liberal (read WRONG!) views. I hope others can discern what a fraud you are.

If you don’t know of DS’ views on the non-Moooooooooslim haters of Jews you do NOT read this site enough. Nice try but no guitar. Or brain.

And if you think the knowing here are gonna listen to your stupid and incorrect meme on “only the radical Moooooooooslims are anti-semitic” you have underestimated us to to degree you have overestimated the brilliance of your brain. You are 10 years too far back.

We have daily reality and THIS site that tells us you’re on crack. Crack is whack and so are YOU!

Skunky on July 26, 2012 at 8:16 pm

There is still Christian anti-Semitism. But Christians in general don’t commit genocidal crimes against the Jews anymore.

Muslims do, the nature of the enemy Jews face has changed and they must adapt to a new reality

Unfortunately the dhimmi left wing leadership of mainstream American Jewish organization prefer to pander to Islam rather than fight it.

That is why the Jewish people are in great danger today.

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Skunky,

I am going to try not to dignify what you say, however, what I see on this site is nothing but people with a very narrow view of society. Sorry, I have no clue who you are or what education you have, however I do know I have a double Masters degree and try not to listen to just one person.

I do read her site regularly just to see how far out some “consertatives” are. What I see on this site is a lot of name calling (especially those who disagree with your thinking).

As far as the Muslim religion is concerned, I have worked with Muslims in the past and have worked well with them. Yes, as a Jew I have political diffrerences with them from time to time but overall, no problems.

Maybe if some of you would do some real reading on the history or anti – semitism it would help as well.

A Reader on July 26, 2012 at 8:31 pm

They want the Jews to disappear from the earth. Maybe the murder of five Jews in Burgas, Bulgaria just last week isn’t enough to convince you of what Islam has in mind for the Jews.

And of course the Jews’ attempts to defend themselves from Islamic genocide is dismissed as “Islamophobia.”

Its real enough and keep on convincing yourself it might be different.

NormanF on July 26, 2012 at 8:48 pm

A Retard, you pull the same old nonsense EVERYTIME. You’re boring and dumb as I have said before. You’re just peeved because I suss you out EVERY TIME to point out to others that your little “nice and fair” act is nothing but dumb Liberalism in motion. The learned here are bored with that. We see it and lived it all before by morons more intelligent that you will ever be.

I will ALWAYS point out the flaws in your Liberal fence-sitting. Your last post PROVED that you ARE the problem. Everyone knows what an idiot you are but YOU.

You’re too stupid for this site. What you don’t understand, you smug KNOW-NOTHING, is that while most of us here know and accept the principles of this site we still have LOTS to learn from DS. We don’t only respect her acumen but her knowledge and her willingness to say what others won’t.

You’re still on the ABCs…we are so far ahead of you so your stupid posts just bore and annoy us who have decided to stay for the fight.

Your condescending and incorrect assertions and corrections of DS are LAUGHABLE. For you to state that she does not mention the dhimmitude of NON-MUSLIMS is stupidity on parade. Many of us here were educated by HER on the thing you’re accusing her of NOT doing. We have read her facts on the Coptic Christians and how the Christians in Lebanon have aided the Mooooooslims more than any other patsies and how they can be anti-Semitic even MORE (or equal to) the CrAzY Mooooooooslims. YOU FAIL!

She has also warned us about Jihad Darrell and John Sununu and Helen Thomas and all the others listed by know-nothing “Schlomo”. You two should go get married. On your honeymoon you should check out her archives after you turtle-dove.

I am not a Jew and I get it more than you do. How sad. You’re disgusting and part of the problem and you brag about your lack of an ability to get from A to Z. Get lost!

Skunky on July 26, 2012 at 10:02 pm

Debbie let’s just stipulate that lots of people are no good but not me and you. We like movies, Israel, Diet Coke and the indiscriminate use of Yiddish to confuse others. Perhaps we could share on-line Yiddish lessons.

A1 on July 27, 2012 at 12:06 am

Off topic, but I wish all the religious Jews on this website who are fasting this Sunday, for the 9th of Av, an easy one.

Miranda Rose Smith on July 27, 2012 at 1:51 am

Oh and here’s a news flash! There are a lot more SEPHARDIM in Israel and the world than there are Ashkenazim. A good number of “russian” immigrants here are from the Eastern (Muslim) republics and are SEPHARDIC, not Ashkenazi despite being Russified.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 3:13 am

Italkit, the number of Sephardim in Israel is roughly equal to Ashkenazim… Furthermore, mixed (Sephardi/Ashkenazi) marriages in Israel are more the norm then the exception… Also, Sephardim are to be found among all walks of life (politics, academics, sports, military etc) which is as it should be…

The point being that even if in the past mistakes were made (we’re talking about humans after all) the reality is that the past is being buried and the future looks a whole lot better…

As for the immigrants from the Muslim republics of the former USSR, just the fact that they are from one of those republics doesn’t make them Sephardim… Quite a few Ashkenazi Jews migrated (willingly or otherwise) into those republics…

It’s no different from my own birth country (Holland) or the US… We have both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews… Indeed, it’s no different from Italy (to which I assume you have a connection)…

Hans on July 27, 2012 at 5:19 am

Hans, I just love people like you who try to tell someone their life as if you know it better than I do. You’re wrong! Yes, there are now Sephardim in all walks of life and they got there by being twice as smart and working twice as hard as Ashkenazim. Just like Blacks prior to Civil Rights in America. I happen to know and live with the Eastern Republic people and by practice and tradition THEY ARE SEPHARDIC. Careful Hans, your racism is showing too. I do not live in the Ashkenazi suburbs of TA. I live among Yemenites so don’t try to sell me your whitewash. Won’t work.
You really think it is in the past. Well, brace yourself for this little story.

I am not dark although I am brown. My husband is a pretty dark German Jew and BTW, he has formally rejected his Ashkenazi tradition and accepted the Sephardi in front of the congregation. That’s not strictly necessary but it’s a good idea for anyone who is serious about it.
Anyway, we were talking to an American lawyer who has been here many years. I mentioned we had lived in Tiberias. His reaction was “they’re all Sephardim there. ” I said, “Um, I’m Sephardic” He replied, “but not THAT kind of Sephardic.” ‘Um, YAH, I AM.” (because what is THAT kind?) I honestly believe he did not give me the best advice because of that.
Sephardic hatred is alive and well. I have had to refute a well known younger radio personality for spewing the lie that Sephardim have lower I.Q.’s that Ashkenazim. So, I’m curious. Debbie and I are both MENSA. I made the top 1%, where did she place? You think it’s moot if we’re both in MENSA, well the organization doesn’t. They have special activities, etc. for us 1%ers. I’m not saying Debbie isn’t. I don’t know but would be curious vis a vis this issue.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 am

Italkit, perhaps you Sephardim shouldn’t have betrayed your people by interbreeding with our enemy, the Arabs.

Zionist and Proud on July 31, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Italkit, if you want to have dialogues on this site, you will have to tone down your rhetoric.

Little Al on July 27, 2012 at 8:01 am

Al, there’s a time to dialogue and a time to set forth some facts in no uncertain terms. The issue of Sephardic persecution at the hands of Ashkenazim is not up for discussion but my intent is to inform. I speak plainly and directly on issues that matter to me.
Are you a moderator. I’m not the only one who digresses into rhetoric at times and I think that is proper. Everyone should try it.

Italkit on July 27, 2012 at 11:52 am

Don’t understand the fascination with the olympics. Their
committee is composed of spoiled brats interested only in lavish perks, prostitutes and special privileges. Backward nations associated with terrorism should not qualify. Same should apply to UN participation. But the US, England and France continue to be the “Wimps R Us” fools.

Otto Schaden on July 27, 2012 at 8:19 am

Have we heard any comment from the fearless leader who prosently lives in public housing at 1600 pennsylvania Av?

I suppose that a person who does not believe Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel doesn’t really care about this matter.

H: Wrong. As I noted in this very post, even Barack Obama supports a moment of silence for the slain Israeli athletes. DS

herbster on July 27, 2012 at 8:35 am

Debbie,

I apologise if you though I made defamatory remarks.

With all respect to what you said, you do criticise Arab Christians, but you downplay Christian anti semitism as in the liberal churches, all of whom are pro Palestinian, because to them Jews who reject Jesus do not deserve Israel. They do not like Islam but they have a pact with muslims.

A lot of conservatives (American conservative Jews) are afraid to call Christian anti semitism, and instead call it ‘marxism’ or ‘liberalism’ or ‘leftism’.

In your case, I daresay, you are a bit racist against Arabs, that’s why you only call out Arab Christians. What about the churches that support Obama, and the more influential churches at the seats of power, that are anti Israel? The root cause: Jews reject Jesus, so Israel is not for Jews. A reborn Israel spoils their delusionm, that the new Church is Christianity.

As for you comment on Christian Evangelicals being supporters of Israel, that is another anti semitism. Esau’s kiss is worse than his hate. Evangelicals want an xtian Israel, that is why they forced Israel to abandon the missionising law, and use Messianic churches which are a trojan horse in Israel.

Thanks, and I mean no offence to you.

Shlomo on July 27, 2012 at 11:10 am

Sholmo,

I totally agree with you on the Christian Anti – Semitism platform you have stated. True, many evangelecal Christains are for Isreal, but thier goal is totally different than ours.

A Reader on July 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Don’t you just love how “A Retard” so easily and conveeeeeeeeeeniently thinks that Christians have more ill intent towards Israel than Moooooooooslims.

You showed your stupid hand yet again. A Retard you are indeed. You’ll hunt high and low for excuses for Mooooooooslims but keep a leery eye on Christians like myself who support Israel more than you do.

Your guilt is appropriate as you should feel guilty when you do something wrong but how you display it is WRONG and back asswards. You’ve been sussed and I hope others will join me at pointing fingers right into your concave chest.

Skunky on July 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm

Skunky, you have indeed blasted A Reader.

Reader, why don’t you try … reading? I have no love for Christianity, but I certainly know that Islam is totally and I mean totally more antisemitic than Christianity. This is because Mo hated Jews more than any other group, as compared with Heysoos, who was a Jew who did not hate Jews.

skzion on July 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Good read Debbie as always. It seems that the Alex Gilady is your typical self hating Jewish scumbag. He became filty rich by looking the other way and getting sweetheart deals. All the while not caring about his own people. The fact that this person was born in that rat hole country Iran should’ve enlightened him but it seems that it hasn’t. He like the left in this country just do not get it. Those athletes who died at the Munich games deserve more than just a moment of silence in my opinion and it is pathetic that repobates like Gilady stand in the way of that. It is said that the enemy within will do more harm to a populace than the enemy without. In this case they aren’t kidding. Debbie you keep on doing what you do to inform us. You know that we would never get the scoop on things like this from the MSMDNC. I for one appreciate your efforts.

Ken b on July 27, 2012 at 11:55 am

Italkit, first, there is no reason to make gratuitous attacks on the enabler of this blog. Most people who do this are called to order sooner or later.

Second, there is no virtue in rudeness (or, in euphemistic terms, plainspokeness). Civility and graciousness are two of the characteristics that separate adults from young children, and in broader terms, distinguish us from animals. Politeness and courtesy facility communication, and what is a fact to one person might be an opinion to someone else.

The relation between Sephardic and Askenazim is complex, and, really not reducible to a couple of table facts. In addition, taking off on such a discussion merely from Debbie’s characterization of Gilady as Sephardic is really a stretch. It is certainly not a “fact” to read everything you have into this one-word characterization. but has turned the discussion into something entirely different from the intent of the post. And, after all, the owner of a post has the right to set the terms of discussion on her post. You are free to start your own blog, or participate in other blogs.

Little Al on July 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm

And your comments about MENSA are particularly grating. If you assume in the US that 2% of the population is eligible for membership, it would be about 6,000,000 people. But only 50,000 are actually members (and actually their criteria are so loose that about 5% of the population can qualify one way or another). So why aren’t there more members?

Perhaps their sophomoric dwelling on who is more intelligent than whom, who is in the top 1%, who is in the top 2%, ad nauseum, such as I heard from grade school kids, and which most of us outgrow, is one reason.

Little Al on July 27, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Ooooooooh-kay, I certainly figured out that there is some inside issue on Ashkenazi vs. Sephardic. I never knew that but I certainly do now. How else is someone non-Jewish going to learn that? For that I am glad to learn that but the tone may be overblown but I don’t know as I am ignorant on that issue other than there is one.

Is it like how Catholics are different from Protestants? I dunno. As a Catholic I don’t think much of Protestants (meaning I don’t THINK of them at all not that I think they suck or anything) or look down on them.

Also Schlomo, as a Jew I wonder why a non-Jew like myself does NOT see DS as racist against Arabs but rather pro-active and responsive to their bitter and intrinsic hatred of HER KIND. What came first Schlomo the chicken or the egg?

I dunno about the chicken and the egg but I can tell you that the Arab hatred of Jews came FIRST. As a Jew you can’t see that? What is wrong with you????? I can see it very clearly. Some of you Jews can’t see the forrest for the trees but I see it all so clearly thank-you-very-much and I take exception to you saying DS is an Arab bigot when she is on DEFENSE against their hatred towards JEWS. WAKE UP!

Skunky on July 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Italkit

Ben Gurion was no friend of the Sepharadim. Your bitterness has roots in a history that is as tragic as it it shameful, and I dare say criminal. Your voice should not be stilled however shrill its tone.
However I read something entirely different in Debbie’s reference to this lowlife Giladi. I saw him doing everything to distance himself from his origins by identifying with every position that a more advanced intelligence, as it were, would in his own warped mind, find acceptable. Debbie’s labeling him a kapo was spot on. In this sense Giladi was your own worst enemy.

Arn on July 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Italkit, we are commanded NOT to think ill of fellow Jews on a whim. You have no evidence that Debbie intended an anti-Sephardic slur. There is no evidence that you have attempted to address this issue privately, which puts you in the wrong again.

You need to learn that the pathologies of Israeli Jews are not always to be found in American Jews.

And frankly, neither the Ashkenazi nor the Sephardic Jewish leadership in Israel deserves any applause. UTJ and Shas are equally disgraceful, corrupt, Muslim-appeasing gangsters.

Like a typical Israeli, you utterly fail the requirement that we love our fellow Jew.

skzion on July 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm

Looks like Chrobry is spamming again. Yes, Chrobry, you sure know how to persuade.

Look, nobody wants to read your crap.

But let’s say that the (very) unlikely is true, that Debbie and most of the regulars here unfairly point at the Poles regarding the Holocaust. And, let’s say that the vicious antisemitism and pogroms launched by your countrymen on this very blog do not reflect the people that we’ve

skzion on July 30, 2012 at 12:50 am

Looks like Chrobry is spamming again. Yes, Chrobry, you sure know how to persuade.

Look, nobody wants to read your crap.

You then will know that you have been treated unjustly. Accept it and move on.

skzion on July 30, 2012 at 12:53 am

Alex Giladi IOC and Phyllis Bennis BDS, two Jews so full of self-loathing that has nothing to do with Judaism,but everything to do with their own agendas; these two could be Christian or muslim & their negative, anti….behaviors would be the same. That’s the simple psychology of a self-hater; how much worse it would be if these two were married to each other, they destroy enough on their own.

Artzenu on August 9, 2012 at 3:47 pm

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