May 30, 2012, - 12:59 pm

Poles Were Complicit in Holocaust: Outrage Over Obama “Gaffe” is Fraudulent, Ignorant

By Debbie Schlussel

Barack Obama has done enough legitimately bad things that we don’t need to manufacture phony outrage over things he does that really aren’t so bad. Such is the case with the feigned shock and fake moralizing over his comments, yesterday, about German Nazi death camps in Poland being a Polish death camp. Here’s a tip for Poland and ignoramuses in the lumpenconservatariat who now engage in revisionist history: Poles murdered millions of Jews, they maintained several death camps, and they wiped out almost all of both sides of my family, as well as those in hundreds of thousands of other Jewish families. This wasn’t just the Nazis. It was tens of thousands of eager Poles and more. Obama made no gaffe here. Poland’s willing executioners took their significant place among Hitler’s willing executioners.


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There is a reason why Poland was so easily occupied by the Germans. Yeah, I know–they were “just taking orders.” Just taking orders when they helped round up Jews and helped man gas chambers. As if Nazis from Germany did this alone! Polish police all too happily worked with the SS to round up Jews. Polish police all too easily took their place in helping run and operate the death camps. Facts are stubborn things. But, sadly, not as stubborn as morons and blind partisans.

I had to laugh when I read this:

Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Wednesday Obama’s words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just “regret”.

Are you kidding? Someone needs to remind Mr. Tusk that his people were the ones doing the hurting and the turning over to the Nazis and the mass murder of at least half of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, some of them from my family. You are “hurt” by calling Nazi death camps, “Polish”???? Um, where were they? Who helped operate them and round up and turn in the camps’ Jewish occupants, soon to be turned into ash and fumes?


There is a reason that President Obama, yesterday, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously to Jan Karski, the former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of Nazi Germany’s genocide of European Jews. And that’s because Karski was unlike most of his fellow Poles, who hated Jews just as the Nazis did and proudly turned them over to the Nazis and/or participated in the mass murderous Judenrein. Even in the Polish underground, hatred of Jews was legion. My great-uncle was in the Polish underground, until they slit his throat while he was sleeping because, one day, the head of the Polish underground demanded a cleansing of its Jews, too.

My paternal grandmother had eleven brothers and sisters. Only one brother survived the Holocaust after the Poles murdered the rest along with her parents, after Poles seized their farm. (Grandma Marilyn was brought to the U.S. before the Holocaust began.) My maternal grandmother had only one surviving sister and brother, out of ten siblings. All the rest–and her parents–were murdered by the Poles. My maternal grandfather’s entire family was wiped out by the Poles. Grandpa Isaac’s father was mayor of the town and owned a hardware store. He hid in the haystacks of a Pole who owed him money and had bought tools on credit, but my grandfather escaped and was ultimately rounded up to the camps, after he heard the Pole tell neighbors he was going to trade my grandfather to the Nazis for a bottle of whisky.

My family and the millions of Jews wiped out in Poland never identified as Polish because the Poles never treated them that way. They were subject to centuries of pogroms and extreme anti-Semitism by the country in which they lived, before they were ultimately rounded up to the camps and mass-murdered with Polish cooperation. They were treated as subhuman all along the way, never as fellow “Polish.” So it’s beyond hilarious now to hear that the Poles are “hurt” by Obama’s description of a German Nazi death camp as “Polish.” As if there weren’t any Polish ones or as if the Poles had zero part in the Holocaust they all too eagerly participated in. Read the 93 pages of “Bystanders, Blackmailers, and Perpetrators: Polish Complicity During the Holocaust” for just a taste of what the Poles wrought on the Jews.

Yes, it is laughable that the Poles, Rush Limbaugh, self-hating Jew Matt Drudge, and a gazillion Republicans and incredibly obtuse and ignorant members of the lumpenconservatariat–most of them no different from the Obamabots in their lack of intelligence, knowledge, and common sense and decency–are incensed over this “gaffe” that really ain’t a gaffe at all. It’s intellectual dishonesty to insist that these death camps on Polish soil were not at all Polish and merely “German Nazi.” Here’s a list of the Polish ones–did they not exist? Did they exist in Poland only because the Germans did this and the Polish had no part? Only a liar or a moron would make these claims. The White House should have made no apology to Poland. These major death camps existed in Poland for a reason: Polish complicity in the Holocaust and willing cooperation with the Nazis.

* Auschwitz

* Belzec

* Chelmno

* Gross-Rosen

* Majdanek

* Plaszow

* Sobibor

* Stutthof

* Treblinka

Keep these names in your mind when you read this quote:

Poland’s government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as “Polish” because it says the term — even if used simply as a geographical indicator — can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany’s World War II genocide.

Although located in Poland, Auschwitz for example was set up and run entirely by German dictator Adolf Hitler’s occupying forces from 1940 to 1945.

Huh? The Poles were not just forced into this by the Nazis. They were active participants, many of them gleeful and eager to murder Jews. To call these camps Polish is no “gaffe.” Poland DOES bear responsibility for the Nazi genocide of Jews.

It’s just fact. And it’s denial and fraud for Poland and others to argue otherwise.

Yes, there were a few righteous gentile Poles who saved Jews. A very tiny few. The majority were all too happy for the Judenrein, especially in the way it took place.

That was the real Poland during World War II. Anyone who says otherwise is a fraud.

And if you wonder why so many Jews are liberal and won’t vote Republican, BS, like the absurd denial that Nazi Death Camps were Polish, certainly doesn’t help in endearing Jews to the GOP.




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2,053 Responses

You worthless vermin, stop spreading your hatred towards Poles. Which country granted asylum after Jews were expeled from Spain in 15th century? Ever heard about Jan Karski or Irena Sendler? First learn the history and the facts, you Zionist ignoramus.

Jerzy on June 6, 2012 at 11:42 am

to much BOTOX, my dear, not enough intelligence 😉

... on June 6, 2012 at 11:44 am

Dear Madam,
I am writing to You from Poland. I don’t know you but taking into consideretaion your age you got to know about IIWorld War from memories of your relatives. In fact I don’t think you could learn such rubbish from books. If you write about something my advice is to learn about it well. Firstly – you write about Polish helping Nazi – tell it to the millions of Polish children, women and men killed each day during German occupation. As far as I know Polish so called “granatowa policja” was forced by German forces such as SS or Gestapo only to patrol the streets etc as municipal police now in many countries. Of course there were few who were colaborating with Nazi but trust me not so many. In fact, many of the were halping Polish Underground Army – AK – which was the Army of Polish Government in UK. If you want to write about camps – come and see on your own. There in Aushwitz for example not only Polish guides but also guides of Jewish roots will tell you the truth. Capos were as well Jews as Ukrainian peole. To be honest there was no single Polish army division within SS as there was with Ukrainian SS Galicien. As for concentration camps – I recommend reading about Croatian one which was govern by Croatian priest.
In cocnlusion I can tell you this and more but first what a person should do before writing something is to learn about it first. May I quote- mean what you say and say what you mean.

Barbara on June 6, 2012 at 11:44 am

As for the people who helped the Germans to run thier death camps, I believe they burn in hell. If it exists, they surely do. They deserve it. Whatever their nationality was.
But it’s easy to judge, sitting in the safety of your house. For most of them, it was a choice between being killed (ona way or another) or loosing their humanity. Such extreme situatuions, unimaginable for us, bring out and empower what’s the worst of human nature. I’m sure we’d be shocked with what many of the people we know would be able to do in such circumstances, just to survive.
By any means this does not justify anything they’ve done. But intelligent and honest people should understand the context. Then go and learn history, facts and be able to analyse them. I guarantee you, you would find collaborators wherever they would have built the camps. It’s unfortunate that German nazi have chosen Poland as the location of most of their concentration / death camps.

nc on June 6, 2012 at 11:45 am

If the Jews had such a hard time in Poland why did so many millions of them lived there for such a long time?

Corrado on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 am

Mrs Schussel,
Why do you have so much hate against Poles. And then crying why most countries cannot stand Jews. It is because of people like you.

Do your homework and some reading before you start this racial remarks against Poles.

Thomas (son of Jewish holocaust survivor)

Thomas on June 6, 2012 at 11:50 am

“if stupidity could float you should fly like a dove” no comments on your ignorance…

marek on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 am

Your God said:
“VIII. Do not accuse anyone falsely…”,
so you will go to hell.

Ferishte on June 6, 2012 at 11:53 am

More Complicit in Holocaust were Jews themselfs… stara wydro!

Wojtek on June 6, 2012 at 11:53 am

How can one say that Poles were allied with Germans? Do you even know what happened on 1st of September 1939? Poland was attacked, we did not invite Germans to our country. What’s more it’s not that only Jews was murdered during war. There were million of Polish people who lost their lives as well. Of course I agree with statement that there was a group of people who collaborated with Germans (yes, Germans not Nazis, there is no nation called Nazis) but for the love of God it was war. There was death penalty for you and whole your family for helping Jews. Not everyone is so brave that he would risk own and his family life to save other people. Jews are not the most important people in this world who should be saved by everyone in every condition. Deal with it.
Poles are victims of II WW. We were murdered in German death camps as well, we were murdered by Germans in our country for no reason. After war we lost big part of land on east. Roosevelt and his buddies sold us for Stalin.

Kacper on June 6, 2012 at 11:54 am

“False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil” (Socrates).

Stop lying through your teeth Ms Schlussel!

Even the Jewish community in Poland asked Mr Barack Obama to rectify his scandalous error: [http://www.jewish.org.pl/index.php/pl/opinie-komentarze-mainmenu-62/4917-komentarz-do-wypowiedzi-prezydenta-usa.html] .

For all you ignorant people out there: Poles constitute the largest group among “Righteous among the Nations”, i.e. people who helped and saved the Jews during WW II. This is even more important because in German-occupied Poland for saving a Jew the whole family of the individual who helped would be killed straight away; unlike in the case of the rest of Europe, where saving a Jew was not punishable by death.
Check this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_among_the_Nations]
Get your facts straight people! Otherwise opinions presented by such half-wits as Ms. Schlussel will prevail.

The Polish people were the first to oppose the Germans (yes, the Germans, not some “Nazis from the Moon” – German soldiers carried out the killings! Nazi GERMANY was the aggressor). The Poles were the first to fight, while the rest of the world looked at the slaughter of Polish citizens and did nothing.
What did the rest of the world do to prevent the Holocaust, to help *Polish* citizens of Jewish descent? What did the USA do? Nothing! N-o-t-h-i-n-g!

Pissed-off-historian on June 6, 2012 at 11:54 am

ale ty jeste? jebni?ta

nn on June 6, 2012 at 11:55 am

I hope there won’t be some Polish people called themselves patriots, living in the US who want to harm you for placing the Polish Eagle next to the Swastika, as some people may view it extremely provocative…

JBEZ on June 6, 2012 at 11:58 am

People, don’t get annoyed about the trash blog. This girl just needs your comments to increase her Google ranking. It’s all about money! The more nonsense, the better response.

Richard on June 6, 2012 at 11:59 am

In my opinion the US Jews are responsible for the holocaust.
(See Jan Karski history).

Ferishte on June 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm

You fuckin bitch Debbie Schlussel

POLSKA on June 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm

dear Lady ! My grandma and 3 others families in village JĂłzefinek n.Lublin saved one Jews girl – I can imagine her face hearing this , considering that Poland was the only country with death sentence for helping Jews and that Polish citizens have the world’s highest count of individuals awarded medals of “Righteous among the Nations”, given by the State of Israel to non-Jews who saved Jews from extermination during the Holocaust I think THERE’S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU !! The police in Ghettos were JEWS ! Why you didn’t mentioned this ? Why you didn’t write about 70 000 Jews in Hitler’s army “Wermacht” ?? Why ? Because you sick little liar . If Poland was that hostile to your nation , than tell us why Jews lived over there for a 1000 years – more than a half population in the world ? When the whole Europe in the Middle Ages was killing your people , Poland was the place you found asylum and survived – so … ???

Ted on June 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm

Shame on You Mrs. Schussel. Outrageous ignrance from your side.

Marcin on June 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm

Polish national emblem next to the swastika is a scandal. Do you know how many Poles were killed during World War II?.

Paul on June 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm

Dear Debbie, I will pray that you retain your good looks and health, because surly there is not hope for your intellect.

AMK on June 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Fortunately, my grandmother, who survived the war, there is no internet and can’t see how stupid you are!

k-marcy on June 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm

lol dumb bitch

germanboy on June 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm

Debbie Schlussel you fuckin bitch

POLSKA on June 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm

Looks like Debbie is a bit afraid to join the comments to ‘defend’ her position – not a surprise. Your blog should be taken down and your thoughts buttoned up somewhere.

How about coming to Poland for a speaking engagement? Have the balls so to speak? Doubtful – most so called bloggers hide behind their page.

Rob on June 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm

Debbie,

Your journalistic inclinations and symbolic belief systems have been mitigated by fallacious content, yet with your journalistic skill and “hunch” you feel that you are right on the money; however, the content of your analysis fails to take into consideration the context and your “rant against misjustice” shows your very own weakness in exploring and seeking to find the truth. 1.) They were Polish Jews, i.e., Polish citizens that is nationally ethnic Poles (What language did they speak?)2.) 3 million Polish Jews and 3 million Polish Catholics were killed. 3.) Distinguished scholars have done the work. You just have to go read it, but that not so easy is it to research the context, its much easier to write the injustice that you’ve known or that you feel. You may have the power of the soap-box but your assertions show that you are clueless and need to engage in less sensationalism and more research. 1.) Poles were occupied by Germany 2.) Germans constructed death camps 3.) Germans wanted to wipe out not only European Jewry but Polish civilization as well so that’s why the 3 million Polish Jews and an additional 3 million Polish Catholics died. 4.) the highest concentration of people of the Jewish faith lived in Poland having Polish nationality and consciousness. 5.) only in Poland were individuals and families under threat to be exterminated for helping Jews. Yet, under the most difficult inhumane rules Poles did more than any other society to assist their Polish Jewish brothers and sisters. Even in those where such draconian rules did not apply. Even your family was helped, they had a nice store which implies they lived normal then the Nazis’ came in. Somebody was helping them, since he was helping them he would not receive whisky but he and his entire family would have been exterminated.
Honestly, I’m sad for you. You’re a journalist and you’re supposed to find the truth. Here based on hunches you are propogating uninformed mistruth. It means that you do not respect your profession nor your readers. Likewise, you don’t know your history and if your grand-parents are around then go and ask them important questions. You need to take a step back and analyze the threads of information that have woven your perception, by doing so you have the ability to isolate the circumstances that have caused you to err. I wish you the best of luck with your introspection because honesty for yourself will free you from latent bias and make you a better journalist. Hopefully, you are professional enough to do the research, and come back with an article being honest about how you were wrong, and quite maybe giving us new dimensions that are not based on blind-hate as your latent basis for writing but education of public and nuanced dimension.

Debbie, you’re about to get a major history lesson. The issue is are you open minded and willing to explore the fallacies in your thoughts? I don’t know, that’s your decision. Best of Luck to you in that Endeavor!

Otto on June 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm

BACK TO SCHOOL

LUKI on June 6, 2012 at 12:05 pm

NAZI=GERMAN

LUKI on June 6, 2012 at 12:08 pm

apologize bitch!

magic on June 6, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Dear Ms. Schlussel,

dealing with such cases and sharing such comments show lack of:
a) basic knowledge
b) understanding of nowadays geopolitcs
c) tact

I assume you know point b) well, beacuse as always there is a web of connections amongst people because of:
a) money
b) similar ideas

Were Poles really responsible? In some part, but you have to clearly distinguish between common thugs (you can find them in USA, who would sell for everything, though your country was never occupied) and brave people, who would risk and sacrifice their lives.

You have to know something as well. After 17th of September most of the Jews, who fled from Soviet Russia and weren’t accepted by different goverments, eg. USA, France, Sweden and thei local Jewish communities (yes it a fact, there are documentary sources), helped Russian/Soviet invaders in many ways. Poles were angry because of that. Everything changed in the fall 1942, when Hitler started Endlosung – eliminiation of Jews. Then the society, apart form:
collaborants (yes there would be some in USA if you were invaded)
thugs (yes there are some in USA)
or people, who shared distrust and hatred towards Jews (there are certain groups in USA as well)
continued their actions towards Jews under the protection of German/Nazi occupants.

If you would like to know more about this sophisticated history do not hestitate to contact me. I hope some things can be cleared out.

Best regards
PhD. Poland

Andrew on June 6, 2012 at 12:10 pm

AMERICAN DUMB

LUKI on June 6, 2012 at 12:11 pm

Before you write something you should read more historician books about Polish history, WWII and relation between Polish and Jewish in XX century. Of cource, if you want to be a professional…

Caroline on June 6, 2012 at 12:11 pm

FUCK THAT DECEITFUL BITCH!

disease on June 6, 2012 at 12:12 pm

bye;DROP TABLE tbl_comments

bye on June 6, 2012 at 12:14 pm

AMERICAN BOG

LUKI on June 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

You are so poor woman! Pray for some brain for yourself.

John on June 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

FUCK YOU UGLY BITCH!!!

Wojtek on June 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

FUCK YOU UGLY BITCH!!!!

Wojtek on June 6, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Fuck you Debbie. Wala sie na swoj popaprany umysl. Gowno wiesz o historii Polski i o polakach w czasie II wojny swiatowej, wiec zamknij sie i poczytaj a nie bedziesz pierolic farmazony.

Over on June 6, 2012 at 12:17 pm

The nationalism has one face. This time it is face of Debbie Schussel.

mitrowitz on June 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_among_the_Nations

pls look at this statistis mrs schlussel
your ignorance in this part of history is pathetic

Nomex on June 6, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Masz tyle rozumu i wiedzy co moj penis kretynko. Za 100-200 lat historia inaczej osadzi Hitlera. Jeszcze si? okarze, ze ocali? europ? a mo?e i swiat przed inwazja zachlannych i zawistnych zydow. Jeden z jego bledow to to , ze wykonczyl prawie cala a nie cala twoja rodzine. Swiat byloby o jedna ignorantke mniej. Twoja wypowiedz swiadczy tylko jaka jestes zydowska suka i dziwic sie, ze doszlo holokaustu na zydach.

Kommen Sie nach Rudolf Franz Ferdinand HĂ¶ĂŸ on June 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Debbie Schlussel = DUMB FUCK AMERICAN!

Wojtek on June 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm

one big fucking lie.

Stefan on June 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm

google sonderkommando- jews killed jews in German death camps to save their own lives. thats a fact you dumb…in Poland you would go on a lawsuit for your lies in this crap article. i hope you die of cancer.

PolandNOTforJewsLikeDebbieShlussel on June 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm

I HOPE YOU DIE BY CANCER!!! I WILL PRAY FOR THAT!!!

Wojtek on June 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Do you know why only so many Poles are among “Righteous among the Nations”?
Because many times more were killed by the Germans for helping their Jewish neighbors and friends and can not speak for themselves, neither their children killed along their parents.

This was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century inflicted by “civilized Germans”,on millions of citizens of Europe and it’s a disgusting shame to profit personally from this tragedy as you just did Mrs. Schlussel.
Peace be with you!!!!

WojciechFizyta on June 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm

FUCK YOU UGLY BITCH! suck your dick

adam on June 6, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    LIES AND ARE ugly

    aaaa on June 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Wow…

Debbie’s entry is a true classic. She’s clearly a psychiatric case and I guess no historical arguments would matter here.

However after reading some posts (eg. Norman’s, worry1’s and Ralphs), written in a different way but still using same-level reasoning, I can but wonder if these people are truly so damn ignorant, or if they simply lie for purpose?

I hope for the latter, as it seems to be a safer option…

pamejudd on June 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Debbie … Du bist dĂŒmmer als Erika Steinbach. Und das ist Kunst!

Anti-nazi on June 6, 2012 at 12:31 pm

you will burn in hell for that!

John on June 6, 2012 at 12:33 pm

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