May 30, 2012, - 12:59 pm

Poles Were Complicit in Holocaust: Outrage Over Obama “Gaffe” is Fraudulent, Ignorant

By Debbie Schlussel

Barack Obama has done enough legitimately bad things that we don’t need to manufacture phony outrage over things he does that really aren’t so bad. Such is the case with the feigned shock and fake moralizing over his comments, yesterday, about German Nazi death camps in Poland being a Polish death camp. Here’s a tip for Poland and ignoramuses in the lumpenconservatariat who now engage in revisionist history: Poles murdered millions of Jews, they maintained several death camps, and they wiped out almost all of both sides of my family, as well as those in hundreds of thousands of other Jewish families. This wasn’t just the Nazis. It was tens of thousands of eager Poles and more. Obama made no gaffe here. Poland’s willing executioners took their significant place among Hitler’s willing executioners.


Poland’s Warsaw Ghetto Existed Because of Polish Complicity

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There is a reason why Poland was so easily occupied by the Germans. Yeah, I know–they were “just taking orders.” Just taking orders when they helped round up Jews and helped man gas chambers. As if Nazis from Germany did this alone! Polish police all too happily worked with the SS to round up Jews. Polish police all too easily took their place in helping run and operate the death camps. Facts are stubborn things. But, sadly, not as stubborn as morons and blind partisans.

I had to laugh when I read this:

Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Wednesday Obama’s words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just “regret”.

Are you kidding? Someone needs to remind Mr. Tusk that his people were the ones doing the hurting and the turning over to the Nazis and the mass murder of at least half of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, some of them from my family. You are “hurt” by calling Nazi death camps, “Polish”???? Um, where were they? Who helped operate them and round up and turn in the camps’ Jewish occupants, soon to be turned into ash and fumes?


There is a reason that President Obama, yesterday, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously to Jan Karski, the former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of Nazi Germany’s genocide of European Jews. And that’s because Karski was unlike most of his fellow Poles, who hated Jews just as the Nazis did and proudly turned them over to the Nazis and/or participated in the mass murderous Judenrein. Even in the Polish underground, hatred of Jews was legion. My great-uncle was in the Polish underground, until they slit his throat while he was sleeping because, one day, the head of the Polish underground demanded a cleansing of its Jews, too.

My paternal grandmother had eleven brothers and sisters. Only one brother survived the Holocaust after the Poles murdered the rest along with her parents, after Poles seized their farm. (Grandma Marilyn was brought to the U.S. before the Holocaust began.) My maternal grandmother had only one surviving sister and brother, out of ten siblings. All the rest–and her parents–were murdered by the Poles. My maternal grandfather’s entire family was wiped out by the Poles. Grandpa Isaac’s father was mayor of the town and owned a hardware store. He hid in the haystacks of a Pole who owed him money and had bought tools on credit, but my grandfather escaped and was ultimately rounded up to the camps, after he heard the Pole tell neighbors he was going to trade my grandfather to the Nazis for a bottle of whisky.

My family and the millions of Jews wiped out in Poland never identified as Polish because the Poles never treated them that way. They were subject to centuries of pogroms and extreme anti-Semitism by the country in which they lived, before they were ultimately rounded up to the camps and mass-murdered with Polish cooperation. They were treated as subhuman all along the way, never as fellow “Polish.” So it’s beyond hilarious now to hear that the Poles are “hurt” by Obama’s description of a German Nazi death camp as “Polish.” As if there weren’t any Polish ones or as if the Poles had zero part in the Holocaust they all too eagerly participated in. Read the 93 pages of “Bystanders, Blackmailers, and Perpetrators: Polish Complicity During the Holocaust” for just a taste of what the Poles wrought on the Jews.

Yes, it is laughable that the Poles, Rush Limbaugh, self-hating Jew Matt Drudge, and a gazillion Republicans and incredibly obtuse and ignorant members of the lumpenconservatariat–most of them no different from the Obamabots in their lack of intelligence, knowledge, and common sense and decency–are incensed over this “gaffe” that really ain’t a gaffe at all. It’s intellectual dishonesty to insist that these death camps on Polish soil were not at all Polish and merely “German Nazi.” Here’s a list of the Polish ones–did they not exist? Did they exist in Poland only because the Germans did this and the Polish had no part? Only a liar or a moron would make these claims. The White House should have made no apology to Poland. These major death camps existed in Poland for a reason: Polish complicity in the Holocaust and willing cooperation with the Nazis.

* Auschwitz

* Belzec

* Chelmno

* Gross-Rosen

* Majdanek

* Plaszow

* Sobibor

* Stutthof

* Treblinka

Keep these names in your mind when you read this quote:

Poland’s government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as “Polish” because it says the term — even if used simply as a geographical indicator — can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany’s World War II genocide.

Although located in Poland, Auschwitz for example was set up and run entirely by German dictator Adolf Hitler’s occupying forces from 1940 to 1945.

Huh? The Poles were not just forced into this by the Nazis. They were active participants, many of them gleeful and eager to murder Jews. To call these camps Polish is no “gaffe.” Poland DOES bear responsibility for the Nazi genocide of Jews.

It’s just fact. And it’s denial and fraud for Poland and others to argue otherwise.

Yes, there were a few righteous gentile Poles who saved Jews. A very tiny few. The majority were all too happy for the Judenrein, especially in the way it took place.

That was the real Poland during World War II. Anyone who says otherwise is a fraud.

And if you wonder why so many Jews are liberal and won’t vote Republican, BS, like the absurd denial that Nazi Death Camps were Polish, certainly doesn’t help in endearing Jews to the GOP.




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2,053 Responses

Debbie, I propose the treatment of your feet, because the head in your case it’s too late

Jarek on June 5, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Your article is an example that between us Jews there are morons like you. I’m sorry for what happened to your family but it doesn’t give you the rights to write lies. Apparently, you consider yourself a journalist ? Seriously?

Anna Weglarczyk on June 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm

Stop writing if you don’t know what are you talking about

euro on June 5, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Debbie , – you are wrong . / you are very wrong // let the curse of millions be upon you /// it’s been invoked to descend upon your soul and upon your loved ones

martin on June 5, 2012 at 7:16 pm

You are so ignorant that it is even difficult to comment! Such type of opinions without any historical background and based on rumours and hearsay evidence is the worst – it is hard to believe that you are “journalist”!

Slav on June 5, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Poles saved thousands of Jews from death at the hands of German oppressors.And how many Poles saved Jews? Not one, but many Poles were killed after helping Jews. And then the Jews betrayed to the Germans were left to die.

Jarek on June 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm

you are out of your mind, you are uneductated ignorant bitch. poles desrved a respect after what they did in WWII, fought to the end, to the last blood, NEVER colaborated with nazi, unlike coward jews, yes jews. and finally they saved THOUSANDS of them, dont bieleve? 9 out of 10 plates in yad vashem are polish, go educate yourself u stupid empty piece of meat.

soHoNY on June 5, 2012 at 7:27 pm

You are false.
In this time Poland was occupied by Germany. All camps which were on polish territory were camps established by nazi Germans.

“Poles murdered millions of Jews”
During the II World War were murdered 6 milions Jews. And about 5,5 milions Poles.

In Auschwitz for instant died grandfather of my wife – e wasn’t Jews. He was Pole.

And “Gross-Rosen” and “Stutthoff” were not on polish territory but in that time on III Reich territory.

Bufon on June 5, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Debbie, you write down these fraudulent nonsense, proved that they do not deserve the success that you have met either in politics and throughout your life. Cleaners have more knowledge than you. That you can to help cleaners, it will be the right place for you.

Jarek Rejman on June 5, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Some idiots should have limited access to internet to avoid such ignorant and foolish articles. Read and learn about history, maybe it will help.
And remember that WW2 has been started not by nazists – some group from the space. War was started by Germans where millions fully supported and gained profits from regime like all big German companies we know today. It was not 5 bad guys (naturally not Germans but nazists) and rest of whole country has been forced to follow. Germans wanted to follow!

Martin on June 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm

and now you should get back to books and read about WW2 cause ‘co? ci si? w g?owie popierdoli?o’

. on June 5, 2012 at 7:33 pm

The content of this article is just outrageous!

HOW dare you, Debbie!

Go to elementary school becouse you seem to be very undereducated in terms of history.

If you would live in those times and would have a german’s soldier gun over your head only then you would have a feeling how its like to fear over yourself, your family, the people you know.

It’s just soo sad that you cant even imagine.

Are you really soo lazy to read books, do decide about authority of the authors of the books, films, movies, historical facts?

Anders Breivik killed many people and what? He cries when he watch his work on court! That’s disguisting.

And you Debbie!

Shame and pity on you!

OMG!Rlly?!? on June 5, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Fcking Bitch!

SSman’s daughter.

pfffff

SSman on June 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Good job.
And now explain us, from what source do you KNOW ‘That was the real Poland during World War II.’ You messed up historical facts with the narration of history from different nations and societies. You took one point of view and u stating that “that how it was.”

sesja_ty_kurwo on June 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm

This article is not a simple lie, it’s a kind of crime, sofisticated, intellectual crime and obvious insult for hundreds of thousands of polish heroes and civilians (including women and children) murdered by Germans. Yes !I have to repeat nazis was Germans ! Show what leftist way of thinking, typical in nowaday world is able to do. Historical evidences showed that closer to the nazis way of thinking was Roosevelt and his counsellor Hoover (by the way soviet agent) who sold Poland (Teheran, Jalta etc.) and treated Soviet Union as a friend. But I think you’ve never read any historical book, do you ? You have to apologize! You can’t compare polish emblem, emblem of country who suffered in the II war most (his slavery ended in 1989, we lost half of our area, and about 30% of population) with emblem of nazis, criminal totalitarianism. Guess which country was rewarded most in israelic Yad Vashem ? I suggest stop writing and return to elementary school. First you have to check out what AK, Warsaw Uprising, Witold Pilecki, ZWZ etc. means. Shame on you !

Kasper on June 5, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Isn’t it a big, fat lie but also a hate crime?

Douglas on June 5, 2012 at 7:41 pm

my comment disappeared …

so I place it again: http://pirx.nowyekran.pl/post/64509,how-was-it-possible

this is an answer (in English !)

Pirx on June 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm

The biggest problem of this world is that the stupid
re cocksure while the wise ones are full of doubt. And somehow we still grant a right to speech to both.

Ignorance is bliss Debbie.

Mateusz Walkowiak on June 5, 2012 at 7:43 pm

I suppose that your message to all that have read this is to ignore the history as it is written and to ignore all the evidence that is tangible and real. We should without a question, with no evidence introduced believe what you have written because you are an unbiased and objective reporter. Congratulations, if you ever were a credible reporter then you have just uncovered your true self, so full of hate.
I actually pity you rather then get upset with what you have written. To be fair there were many atrocities committed by some poles. Blaming those who had no part in it is wrong and irresponsible. These Death Camps were built outside of Germany to conceal from the German public what Hitler’s master plan was actually about. Most Germans didn’t know about these camps until the end of the war.
I’m sorry about you grandfather, he was one of many souls who have perished in that war regardless of nationality or religion.

Why? on June 5, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Debbie Schlussel I hope that you would respond before the court for what you wrote .

rafal on June 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm

I totally agree that people with mental impairment should be intergrated with other people. However, they shouldn’t be allowed to hold important possitions in the society. It would be the best, for their and our safety.

Andrzej Jakusik on June 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm

You are very, very pretty. Just like a pinup girl. Clearly, your physical beauty does not go along with your intellectual deficiency. So why don’t you just do the photo shoots and keep your trap shut.

Tomasz on June 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Wow. Just wow.
First of all for someone who is supposed to be a decent journalist your ignorance of history is impressive.

So your reasoning why Poland was so easily occupied by Nazis is that polish ppl were all too happy to exterminate all the Jews? Should i remind you the Nazis and Soviets conquered and held pretty much THE ENTIRE FUCKING EUROPE, not just Poland, and Poland just had the fucking luck of being exactly in between those 2 countries? So what entire Europe was ALL TOO HAPPY TO EXTERMINATE JEWS? Your argument is ridiculous. It’s because of idiots like you ppl hear of ‘Polish death camps’.
Had the war gone a different path and let’s say Nazis won, Polish ppl were next in line straight to death camps and noone in Poland has any doubts about it. The only reason death camps were in Poland and not somewhere else, like let’s say in France, is because it was a very convenient place for them to be there. Nazis secured Poland very fast and they could start creating their death machine efficiently. Also, in Poland right before the WWII started there were approximately 4 million Jews.

So i guess the only thing to blame Poles for is that their country was in a totally screwed position, exactly in between Nazis and Soviets. But your country hasn’t seen a real war on it’s own territory in over 200 years and hasn’t really been occupied by enemy army at all so how the hell can you even begin to understand what was happening here, or anyone else in the US for this matter.

You are a first class moron.

My Jaw is literally on the floor on June 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Leave for a moment the behavior of Poles toward Jews. Information about the Second World War, its progress and statistics are fabricated an embarrassing form of your journalism. Showing Polish and swastika emblem is cheap propaganda. Only thing thing I can think of is that you must be either stupid or nasty. Or worse, both. Certainly neither one nor the other makes you a professional journalist. Your ridiculous theories are based on stupidity and hatred of the Polish are as real as the claim that all Americans are butchers. Because Sgt Robert Bales is an American. I am twice younger than you and I am ashamed that a woman at the age of my mother is stupider than me.

Artur Paprocki on June 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm

The statement Polish death camps is just as valid like “Terrorist attack on WTC by amercian terrorists”. SO maybe you study some hisotry before you started say no existing facts.

anonymus on June 5, 2012 at 8:00 pm

Polish citizens have the world’s highest count[1] of individuals awarded medals of Righteous among the Nations, given by the State of Israel to non-Jews who saved Jews from extermination during the Holocaust. As of 2011[ref], there are 6,266[1] Polish men and women recognized as “Righteous” to this day, amounting to over 25 per cent of the total number of 22,765 honorary titles awarded already.[2][3]

How do you explain that to all the Jews who were saved by the Poles at the risk of loosing their own lives, their family’s lives and having their whole village burned down (this actually happened when a Jew was found hidden by a Polish peasant)?

Martin on June 5, 2012 at 8:07 pm

I can not believe that people like you , with your stature , who by their behavior should show others what is important and true, can say somehting like this! I dont know who taught you history, but probably he or she didnt do it like polish teacher do or maybe this guy say something which is not true? I dont care, I dont like when people say somethings and they didnt have any knowledge about this..
I dont know what I should write to you because I’m soooooooooo embarrassed!
If you dont know something it will better you will not write nothing !
Woman, Do you know that in the camps died Poles too? I dont think so. You sholud read somehting about Irena Sendler, Zofia Kossak or sister Matilde Getter and then write something about the Poles! You sholud get to know polsih history and later write what you know.
I hope that not all Americans are so backward and above all ignorant and do not have any knowledge when it comes to the Holocaust!

greetings from Poland.

cdcdnjcndjcnd on June 5, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Dear Debbie,

    Did Polish people build death camps to be murdered there? It may ba a fact barely known at your place but Poland have lost around 6 milion inhabitants murdered during WWII.

    We would like to ask you officially to prove your ridiculous statements in this so called article.

    Apart from your personal opinions there are few historical facts and even those few facts are being used to support your biased opinion.

    Unless you are a notorious layer please do show us at least one thousand of Polish surnames in German staff of the death camps.

    Best regards
    Green Elephant Foundation

    Green Elephant Foundation on June 5, 2012 at 8:49 pm

If we were so bad then why they were killking us too? How is it possible that in our country were any kind of Death Camps when we haven’t had any country??
Answer first and then write.

Stupid bitch you should now apologize to us for this and go back to school where they should teach you about history or maybe you want to be like you said “ignoramuses in the lumpenconservatariat who now engage in revisionist history” because we don’t change anything in our history. Poland have 1000 years old history (so why we should change anything??) and America have less then 400 years. And you still forget about that fact.

Krystian on June 5, 2012 at 8:10 pm

And if you are so sure about your teory then hold a TV show and tell this to all Americans and to Polish politicians

Krystian on June 5, 2012 at 8:14 pm

You silly woman. Du narish yente!Shande!Shande!

Waldemar on June 5, 2012 at 8:16 pm

Kto publicznie zniewa?a Naród lub Rzeczpospolit? Polsk?, podlega karze pozbawienia wolno?ci do lat 3.

(art. 133 Kodeksu karnego)

Kaz on June 5, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Kto publicznie zniewa?a Naród lub Rzeczpospolit? Polsk?, podlega karze pozbawienia wolno?ci do lat 3.

Kaz on June 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Kto publicznie zniewa?a Naród lub Rzeczpospolit? Polsk?, podlega karze pozbawienia wolno?ci do lat 3.

Kaz on June 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm

First people which were rounded up and died in nazi camp, were poles from southern part of their country.
Juws were rounded up to the nazi german death camp in the second part of 1942, and they were guided straight to the Birkenau. Auschwitz was filled up mostly by polish victims. If there was a Jew, he has some kind postion. German politic was clear: Turn up Poles against Jews, and Jews against Poles. We can’t let lies spread out through world. Our duty is reminding the thruth about German Nazi Camp. Everything whats happened in Poland was strictly commanded by nazi germans.

Jakub on June 5, 2012 at 8:20 pm

Debbie you are fu*king stupid!
And if my english aren’t very good I know one thing:
STOP KURWA WRITING IF YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

bi*ch…

suck my POLISH di*k on June 5, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Debbie
There were many people in Poland who did behave like swines. Granted people like that happen to be in every nation. That’s an impartial fact.
However what you wrote here goes against anything that is known and proven by history itself. I do not know the reason you wrote it for. I can only guess that it is either your hatred ( which puts you in the line with people like Himmler and Hitler) or it is your personal quest and desire to become famous. Either way , shame.
Yours sincerely
Adam Jablonski

Adam on June 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Have you heard about Jewish Gestapo in Warsaw Getto or Jewish Kapo in concentration camp.Back to school you pseudo-journalist.

aragorn on June 5, 2012 at 8:26 pm

Here u’r u bitch and for this twat norman as well: http://pirx.nowyekran.pl/post/64509,how-was-it-possible

Norman Moron on June 5, 2012 at 8:28 pm

WE POLISH PEOPLE WON’T HELP JEWS ANYMORE. ASK FOR HELP SOMEONE ELSE. ENOUGH STUPID NONSENSES ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH PEOPLE. POOR JEWS BUT WHO KEPT YOU BY 800 YEARS WHILE OTHER COUNTRIES SAID NO!!! WE POLISH PEOPLE!!!

liv on June 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm

What a LIES.

You should immediatelly LOSE YOUR JOB if all your articles are based on such “true” sources as this one.

LIAR CU*T you are ma’am.

Actually Polish people has more trees in Yad Vashem for saving Jews than ALL OTHER NATIONS COMBINED.

You get that, dumb tw*t ?

Completly opposite to what you say.
You antipolish liar.

PsssSs on June 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm

kurwa nie wiem jakim trzeba by? debilem aby obwinia? naród Polski za zbrodnie na jaki? ?ydkach nie wiem jakim trzeba byc kurwa ignorantem aby mowic ?e ?ydzi maj? zle na ?wiecie na koniec powiem ci tylko chuj ci w dupe glupia hejterowska pizdo

Chuj ci w cyce on June 5, 2012 at 8:47 pm

YOU ARE BLODE IDIOT USA HAHAHAAHAHHAH!!! BACK TO SCHOLL IDIOT! RETARTD

IDIOT on June 5, 2012 at 8:54 pm

zak?amana kurwa jebana nie zna histori jak ten obama ty jebana kurwo w cipsko dziwkowa

dziwka on June 5, 2012 at 8:55 pm

You failed as politician and now you are failing as “journalist”. i will close this motherf#cker site down.

anonymous on June 5, 2012 at 8:59 pm

I normally respect people’s opinion, even as stupid as the one above so here is mine. You’re a dumb bitch. Read a history, ‘lady’ How come you have no problem using term Nazi Camps instead of German, but you have no problem with Polish camps? Poland, the only country under German occupation, which didn’t have collaborating government with Germans. France can’t say it, Nederland, Belgium, Czechs none of the occupied countries they all collaborated. Do you know dumb slut, how many Poles died in Auschwitz before first Jew arrived? Percentage wise Poland lost the biggest part of its population including dozens of members of my family. No nation in world can say we lost more lives trying to save Jews than Poland. Go to Israel and check the list if righteous among the nations, and than speak

Krzysztof on June 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm

You should read also this: http://pirx.nowyekran.pl/post/64509,how-was-it-possible

Jack Mac Lase on June 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Debby wrote many times on the subject polish-Jewish relations. She is nether illiterate, nor stupid, even pervert is compliment . So .. we are left with attitude : forget about her ,and look who is behind her.
Any argument has no value to her, or to her sponsors.

straightschooter on June 5, 2012 at 9:07 pm

I bet that the author herself would give up jews in WW2 europe just to preserve her worthless life if she was standing before decision her or them. Now full of lies and black@white calling death camps “polish” instead of GERMAN!!!

Seems americans already forgot internment camps and many other “bright” ideas of theirs , but are the best at pointing others’ perpetrations.

PolishMe on June 5, 2012 at 9:11 pm

Polako?ercy wszystkich krajów, czeka na was miejsce w piekle!

?ydowskie zepsute nasienie

cze?? i czo?em on June 5, 2012 at 9:14 pm

Poles stop feed that troll!!!

pank on June 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm

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