March 11, 2009, - 11:17 pm

Told Ya: Baby Mama Bristol Palin Will Remain Single Mother, Splits with Baby Daddy

By Debbie Schlussel
Hate to say it in this instance, but . . . . I told you so.
When I wrote a column about how Bristol Palin remains a single mother–a baby mama–and had no legitimate reason to prolong getting married, several worshippers at the alter of St. Sarahmessiah told me I was wrong, that these two kiddie-parents (the Palin daughter and boytoy Levi Johnston) would be married this summer.
But, you see, I never believed they’d be married. In fact, I thought their engagement was a fiction put on by the Palin family to help win the Presidential election. And, unfortunately, I was right. As I noted, this kid had a very pretentious name (“Tripp Easton Mitchell Johston”), but not what was far more important–a father married to his mother.

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Splitsville: Sarah Palin-Enabled Single Motherhood Now Permanent, w/ Permanent Victim

I’m not surprised that this future marriage was a fiction. That’s what campaigns are: showbiz. Smoke and mirrors. The daughter of Sarah Palin broke up with baby daddy Johnston several weeks ago, despite telling FOX News Channel’s Greta Van Susteren that they were going to be married when they finished high school. It was a lie.
I really don’t care much about these two pieces of trash, but for the fact that they’ve now added their progeny to the problems America faces with the kids of single mothers, which I’ve been detailing on this site and elsewhere for years.
But the issue I do care about is who will be the next Republican Presidential nominee. And how so-called social conservatives continue, with a straight face, to praise baby grandmama Sarah Palin (and chose her as their conservative of the year). She was not at home, when the pregnancy happened. She was busy blindly chasing her ambitions. And this is what happens when you have a working mother and a Mr. Mom, i.e., the Palins. Now, Todd Palin can proudly wear a new title, Mr. Grand-Mom.
You can attack me all you want for saying so, but working mothers are more likely to have kids who engage in premarital sex at an earlier age and they’re more likely to have kids that become parents out of wedlock. The Palins are just an embodiment of the facts and statistics.
And let’s be intellectually honest here. If one of Barack Obama’s daughters was a single mother, we conservatives would be legitimately all over it. Or if her name was Sha’niqua. Yet, most of the same people who would be all over it, don’t seem to have a problem with Sarah Palin and the family atmosphere from which she was absent that created this Baby Mama situation. Not only don’t they have a problem with it, they send me anti-Semitic and vile, unhinged e-mails exercising the c-word for daring to point this out.
“Conservative of the Year,” indeed.
I’m extremely bummed out that Barack Obama is President and is destroying this country. I voted for McCain-Palin in November.
But one thing I’m not bummed out about: That Republicans aren’t the party of this first–the first teen baby mama in the Vice Presidential mansion living on the public dole.
(Techically, lesbian Veep daughter Mary Cheney was a baby mama of sorts, since her significant he/she/it/whatever was pregnant with a kid, but not exactly the same thing. And at least she’s not a teenage kid having kids. Even so, that “first” was more than enough.)
The only one I feel sorry for here: this kid, who has the misfortune of being born to a single mother in a family that has far more pretensions than actual good values. Good luck, Tripp. You’ll need it. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise.
Sorry, kid, but you’re just not the luckiest bastard on earth. Or even in Alaska.
(Hmmm . . . am I still allowed to use the word, “bastard”?)
EXIT Question: How hard will it be for Levi Johnston to have that Bristol tattoo lasered off his finger? Hey, another reason why tattoos aren’t a good idea.
***
As reader “California Screaming” reminds me, there is an earmark for tattoo removal in the stimulus package. You know, the stimulus package which Baby Grand-Mama Sarah simultaneously claimed she was against and was fighting for her “fair share.”
**** UPDATE–“Musical” Accompaniment:
Three Six Mafia – Baby Mama






46 Responses

Well at least she didn’t have an abortion like many a pregnant teen. In this day and age it has come to this. She isn’t killing the unborn. To me it is still saying something. Something.

samurai on March 11, 2009 at 11:58 pm

Sarah Palin is a RINO and a CINO (conservative-in-name-only).
If you claim to be a conservative-republican and you kiss the communists’ butts to get what you want, then -as far as I’m concerned- you cease to exist.
A quote from the AP on February 1, 2009 :
“The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state’s share of the package.”
The “package” is the communist “stimulus package” that was passed and signed by the fraud, empty suit, Mr.teleprompter, traitor, Hussein Obama to destroy the future of many generations of Americans.
http://a.abcnews.com/print?id=6779036

Independent Conservative on March 12, 2009 at 12:03 am

First to answer your question with a question. Could he get his tattoo removed with money from the stimulus package?
I want to give a big Yawn, but I have to agree they are no different than kids from the inner cities. If we are to be consistent the results are the same. Sarah Palin will take a hit in the court of public opinion. The cruelest dream REALITY! “Kids aren’t All Right”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-aUiddpUo

californiascreaming on March 12, 2009 at 12:11 am

Its not alright to have a kid of wedlock. We’re going to defend it because “our” side does it? What does that say about the conservative belief in family values? They look like hypocrites, that’s what!

NormanF on March 12, 2009 at 12:15 am

I’ve always been mystified about why anyone ever liked Palin. My opinion of Palin and her family isn’t lowered at all from this – it’s exactly what I expected.
[L: DITTO. DS]

LibertarianBulbasaur on March 12, 2009 at 12:50 am

Of course. People who don’t have core values can’t really disappoint us. It separates them from those with them who other people look up to. I don’t think in looking back on the last year, the country thought all that much of the Palins. For once the liberal critics were right: Sarah was a lightweight on the things that mattered most and her family was the Alaskan equivalent of trailer park trash. Hey, actions speak far louder than words.

NormanF on March 12, 2009 at 1:04 am

The left wing media have already spewed an ocean of venom at this woman and her family, what’s with the piling on?
Besides, last time I checked, the election was over and Bristol Palin wasn’t even in it.
You don’t like Sarah Palin, I get it. In any case, can you show me a republican who is as solidly pro-life, pro second amendment, isn’t some Ivy League twit? She was still the only one on either ticket who had any executive experience.
The the loathing of this woman on the part of many people left or right is extremely visceral and seems to be based more on envy and snobbery than any rational political issues.
[TF: AH, THE ST. SARAHMESSIAH CROWD CHIMES IN, JUST AS I PREDICTED. HMMM . . . IF SHE DIDN’T RUN AND THE ELECTION IS OVER, WHY DID BRISTOL PALIN DO AN INTERVIEW WITH FOX NEWS CHANNEL? DON’T ANSWER. THAT’S RHETORICAL. SHE SENT HER FRIENDS TO ANNOUNCE THE SPLIT TO “PEOPLE.” HELLO . . . ? ENVY? HILARIOUS. I REPEAT–AS I HAVE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS–IF CRITICIZING SOMEONE MEANS I’M “ENVIOUS,” THEN I GUESS I ENVY BARACK OBAMA, MICHELLE OBAMA, JANET NAPOLITANO, MICHAEL CHERTOFF, YASSER ARAFAT, HAMAS, SAUDI ARABIA, MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD, POTHEADS, EVERYONE IN HOLLYWOOD (I GUESS THAT’S A REPEAT OF “POTHEADS”), PEOPLE WITH TATTOOS, ROSIE O’DONNELL, MEN WHO KNIT, WATCHMEN FANS, AND A GAZILLION OTHERS. POOR TRY, NO CIGAR. DS]

Tempus Fugit on March 12, 2009 at 1:41 am

The point is that social conservatives were fawning all over her and they went on to defend and justify behavior they would rightly denounce if it had been manifested in a liberal. If this is what conservatism has become today, its no wonder its in a state of crisis. The last thing the Republican Party needs is to nominate someone without core values who not only doesn’t talk but doesn’t walk like a conservative.
Just look at what Michael Steele has been saying about homosexuality and abortion. This is a party that couldn’t find its way out of a paper bag because its bankrupt and doesn’t have a clue as to what it stands for! So the Palins, McCains and Huntsmans in the party are just the surface symptoms of a very deep rot. I’m not at all hopeful right now about next year, let alone probably the next 8 or so.

NormanF on March 12, 2009 at 1:52 am

Did Sarah Palin shoot your dog or something?
She also has a son serving in Iraq. How about a few nice words about him?
Anyway, I wish I came from a family as impeccable and exemplar as yours so I could be free to take such cheap shots at a decent yet admittedly flawed family.

Tempus Fugit on March 12, 2009 at 2:00 am

Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson also had unstable families and tawdry personal lives yet amazingly they somehow managed to contribute a great deal to this country. How could that possibly be?
By the reasoning displayed by some here, those men should have been ineligible for the offices they held.

Tempus Fugit on March 12, 2009 at 2:12 am

She should have used birth control and had her man use a condom.
She’s lucky mama Sarah is rolling in dough as a professional politician.
Most unwed kids are not so lucky.

donsmith7777 on March 12, 2009 at 2:41 am

Deb, as the middle of 7 children, I can assure you that there were many times I wondered if we were all the product of the same parents. We each have different personalities and flaws. Pop was a blue-collar man, and Mom was the housewife who could stretch a dollar like nobody’s business. My old man would set us straight the second we got out of line. Ditto Mom. They’re both gone now, and I’ll miss them forever, They were great parents. My eldest brother served in VietNam, returned home, grew his hair long, and fathered an out-of-wedlock baby. My parents were mortified and heartbroken. And we children were saddened by the dissapointment they felt.
Did my parents fail?
Did they set a bad example?
Do we qualify as ‘trash’…..?
I don’t see where Sarah Palin’s behavior set the path for her daughter to get ‘knocked-up’.
I don’t see that she set a bad example for any of her children.
One of her children screws-up, and Sarah gets smeared with a big ‘Loser Mom’ tattoo.
And how does that work, Deb?
If an adult leads a successful, moral existence, but an offspring screws up, does that invalidate everything the adult has accomplished?
I don’t recall Sarah Palin – or her husband – ever stating that she was proud of what her daughter did.

guitarguy on March 12, 2009 at 8:26 am

When I heard the newsflash last night on this, I said, DS is right again.
Debbie, I agree with the point you make about the Obama girls–if one of them got pregnant, we’d make a big issue of the Obamas’ loose morality. (of course we’d never know because she’d no doubt abort before we ever would know..hmmm?)
I wish people, “conservatives,” would smell the coffee on Palin and co. We don’t need such an act to lead us.

BB on March 12, 2009 at 8:27 am

Hey guitarguy–once again you totally miss it.
If Palin was not so avidly pursuing her career as governess, she could have been mothering her daughter–ergo no pregnancy. That’s the point. It is a question of priorities–wake up dude.
We’re talking about teenagers living at home–believe it or not–some parents get involved so that these things cannot happen during those years.

BB on March 12, 2009 at 8:34 am

Well, it has come to this…
We’re supposed to be grateful the Bristol did not have an abortion–as if that were the norm (BTW–how dumb do these kids have to be to not use birth control? Maybe it would have helped to have a mother around.)
We’re supposed to give Sarah a pass because she’s on our side
We’re supposed to support Team R through the Bushes, McCain, Bob Dole, and drift to the Left
We’re supposed to prefer driving on the road to ruin at 50 miles per hour, rather than 80 miles per hour
Seems to me that we’re long past due for a third party, formed by real conservatives who are already in office.
Remember that the Republicans were formed by active elected officials, who opted out of other parties en masse. Let the current Republicans merge with the Democrats, and let us start anew.

Red Ryder on March 12, 2009 at 8:53 am

Bristol and Levi, yeah that marriage would have had a shelf life of about 13 months. Too many people here need to get their bowels in an uproar over more important issues as our nation goes down the crapper.

Ripper on March 12, 2009 at 9:21 am

We women really can be stupid sometimes. I used to think that men and women share an equal responsibility for sex and procreation. Nope. Yes, I know it takes two to tango. But, the ultimate responsibility tips to our side. We are the ones who bring life into the world. We are ultimately responsible for using birth control properly. We are responsible for wisely choosing a mate. There is no such thing as a “night of fun” for women.
As angry as I am at Bristol, I do feel bad for her. To have the world come crashing down in such a public way at age 18…Guess all that abstinence stuff really wasn’t meant to keep the sisterhood down and under the oppressive male bonds. (/sarcasm) It actually makes life easier. Who knew?

cirrus1701 on March 12, 2009 at 9:22 am

Now we have those who call themselves “Young Republicans” who claim that they want to take the party back as it was during the Reagan era.
They are useful idiots for the Democrats.
If you look at their views, for example, on abortion and gay marriage, you couldn’t find any more liberals than them.
Two examples of those Liberals who want to contribute to the destruction of the Republican Party are: Margaret Hoover and Meghan McCain.

Independent Conservative on March 12, 2009 at 9:31 am

Independent Conservative
I will bet yo that most Republicans (including me) do not want to see abortion made illegal and 16 year old girls hauled off to jail. It is that sort of attitude that gets people like Obama into the White House. By the way the last I checked abortion was legal during the Nixon, Ford, Reagan, GHW Bush and GW Bush presidencies.

Ripper on March 12, 2009 at 9:45 am

I did not want to go with you on this one Debbie, but you were right. Especially the part about campaigns being phony. All of politics is phony, not just the campaigns.

PDMac60 on March 12, 2009 at 9:52 am

Ripper,
If the Republican Party’s platform is based on morality among other things, then you would expect its members to adhere to its principles. If not, then why not joining another party or have one of their own?
But to claim adherence to the Republican Party while acting in contrast to its principles is the maximum of hypocrisy and deceit.
Abortion might be legal only for those who want to practice it, but it is not for those who don’t want to kill unborn babies.
Gay marriage and having out of wedlock babies is also against morality and whether it’s legal or not, morality doesn’t obey to immoral, unethical laws.
But, after all is said and done, the Republican Party has been screwed by the RINOs for a quite a while now, therefore I do not consider myself a “Republican,” but rather a Conservative. There is a difference between the two.
That wasn’t the case during the Reagan era.
Although I objected to some of his policies, especially his amnesty to illegal aliens, I consider him a genuine Conservative-Republican.

Independent Conservative on March 12, 2009 at 10:07 am

Independent Conservative
“If the Republican Party’s platform is based on morality among other things”
Since when? Ronnie Reagan a divorced man??
There is a reason why the Republican party is going to be in the wilderness at east two generations. The Republican Party should stand for libertarian values – small but efficient government, low taxes,strong national defense, tough on crime, color blind society, and the government keeping its big nose out of your personal life which means I don’t give a **** about teen angers making out in a car. The obsession with Britol Palin’s vagina is perverse.
[R: SARAH PALIN’S OBSESSION WITH BLIND AMBITION, WHICH FAR EXCEEDS HER CONCERN WITH HER FAMILY IS PERVERSE. WE REALLY DON’T CARE ABOUT BRISTOL PALIN’S PERVERSE “OPEN FOR BID’NESS” SIGN ON HER VAGINA. SHE’S THE ONE WHO CARES FAR MORE–PUTTING OUT PRESS RELEASES ON HER PREGNANCY, BABY, AND BREAKUP, AND DOING INTERVIEWS ABOUT 2 OF THE THREE ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL. IF YOU DON’T LIKE THAT IT’S PUBLIC RECORD, YOU SHOULD TELL HER TO STOP BEING AN ATTENTION WHORE AND HER MOTHER TO STOP NEGLECTING HER FAMILY, WHICH CREATED THIS PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. ATTACKING RONALD REAGAN WON’T WIN YOUR OR YOUR PRECIOUS ST. SARAMESSIAH–A COMPLETE DUMMY–ANY POINTS. SHE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT. WAKE UP. JUST BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AREN’T IN POWER, DOESN’T MEAN THEY NEED TO PICK THE DUMBEST CHOICE AVAILABLE SO THEY CAN FAIL AGAIN. DS]

Ripper on March 12, 2009 at 10:37 am

Ripper does make a good point–as to what the party should stand for.
However, is it too much to expect decent behavior from those in the public eye? (And that includes her daughter). Note that if Sarah wanted to keep her daughter out of the spotlight, she would never have run for veep.
It might have been considered a bold move at the time, but she was a lightweight, and McCain was pathetic. The campaign was sunk no matter what.
Moreover, exactly how is Palin conservative? Because she believes in the second amendment? Because she is pro-life? Because she is not a lesbian? She is still bellying up to the bar for her state handouts.
Abortion was never a matter for the feds to regulate in the first place, and most calls to personal morality would be better taken if the people listened, rather than the politicians.
Finally, the references to Jefferson and Franklin betray a serious lack of knowledge. What dalliances they had, or may have had, have been vastly overblown in this era of attacking “dead white men.”

Red Ryder on March 12, 2009 at 11:25 am

Great points as usual, La Deb.
Republicans remind me of the shy guy at a party who gets all excited when the pretty girl winks at him.
Sarah Palin at first glance is a wowzer. She’s pretty and very charming, says the right things. But, the more you “date” her, you realize she’s shallow, immature, kind of an air head, and is only interested in you to secure your vote for Homecoming Queen.

Jeff_W on March 12, 2009 at 11:30 am

who cares she already living rent free with her parents. maybe they can both get a part time job and use there oil rebate tax check to buy condoms, birth control or one of them getting fixed

PNAMARBLE on March 12, 2009 at 11:59 am

Let’s not eat our own. Palin’s family isn’t perfect and neither is mine, but, the point is, we need to get the gov. out of the business of enabling bad behavior. If she’s for that, then I’m in.

Rick on March 12, 2009 at 12:04 pm

I like Sarah Palin. I thought she did a good job of running for VP. I still think she was one of the best choices out there for the McCain campaign. I also think she did a very good job debating Joe Biden.
Having said that, I honestly don’t think Sarah Palin is a viable candidate for President in 2012, or ever. There’s plenty of work to do running Alaska and if she wants to move to Washington D.C. she can always run for Congress.
The ultimate problem with Bristol Palin’s pregnancy is that Republicans have been putting way too much emphasis on “family values” over the past decades. If we don’t like the Democrats forcing THEIR version of “family values” on us, why do the Republicans think we’re going to like theirs? It’s really not the place of government to determine what “family values” are. Those Republicans who held public office and harped endlessly on “family values” should have realized how this compromised their message promoting “smaller government”.
The LIB media attack machine merely exploited the Palin pregnancy. It was low-hanging fruit.
Presidential elections are big-time political events and candidates have to cope with these things the best they can. Your prediction was correct as you were noting the manner in which the Palins were merely coping with a campaign dilemma as best they could.
I have a prediction for you, Debbie. I don’t think Bristol Palin will be a “single mother” for very long. Given Sarah Palin’s expanded network of political and corporate contacts, I think Bristol Palin will find a fine young man from an affluent family that will gladly be a husband and father to her child. Ya know what I mean?

There is NO Santa Claus on March 12, 2009 at 12:37 pm

I agree with Ripper! And all of you who say my son or my daughter would not to this, how the hell do you know what they do behind close doors in their own house. For all you know your son is closet gay getting his knees dirty and your daughter could be doing 3somes and or knocking teeth with the beaver.
And when I saw this on the news I knew you would have this on your blog today!
Both parties suck these people are not representing their constituents anymore. The last place to learn or show examples of morals or hard work is the government. Wake up PEOPLE!

ohboyohboy on March 12, 2009 at 1:21 pm

Ripper,
You say “the Republican party is going to be in the wilderness at east two generations. The Republican Party should stand for libertarian values – small but efficient government, low taxes,strong national defense, tough on crime, color blind society, and the government keeping its big nose out of your personal life…”
———————————————-
Again, as I said, since the Republican Party chose morality as part of its platform, then its members should have the same principles and should practice them.
Otherwise, why calling themselves “Republicans?”
There is a choice here, either the Republican Party changes its platform and its name to “The Democratic Party II” since the Liberals are taking over, or the real Conservatives-Republicans members of that party leave it and form a party of their own.
It seems that we’re heading in the direction of the second choice.

Independent Conservative on March 12, 2009 at 1:44 pm

Red Ryder: Jefferson and Franklin both fathered children out of wedlock, isn’t that the same mud being slung at Bristol Palin right now? It’s a relevant analogy and not about attacking “dead white men.”
Do people want to canonize a saint or get someone in office who will uphold the constitution, secure the borders, be strong on national defence, cut taxes and spending and basically NOT be a flaming socialist? If the GOP could field a candidate like that, I wouldn’t care if they were related to Caligula.

Tempus Fugit on March 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm

“Those Republicans who held public office and harped endlessly on “family values” should have realized how this compromised their message promoting “smaller government”.”
How does promotion of family values increase government?
Yep, the message was so bad that the Republicans were in charge for almost 20 years or more. The same “lousy” message allowed the Republicans to get in charge of both houses in Tennessee where I live since reconstruction.
The problem isn’t the message, the problem is the Republican Party has NO message except to act like Democrats while giving lip service to conservative values. That’s why McCain lost.
Even as a conservative Christian, I, too, am very leery about imposing many morality positions. But, anyone who checks out the libertarian positions can clearly see their beliefs are moral judgements, too. Any law is a statement of morality, it’s unavoidable.
Frankly, I don’t care for the libertarian positions on abortion, gay rights, and many other issues. Stating their support for these is in fact making moral stands, the same they blast conservatives for doing.
I think if society followed the libertarian system to it’s logical conclusion it would be chaos. Rampant drug use, pornography of all types, even child pornography, and many other social ills would go unchecked.
Even though it was far from perfect, give me a Ronald Reagan government any day.

Jeff_W on March 12, 2009 at 2:03 pm

Tempus Fugit, “…If the GOP could field a candidate like that, I wouldn’t care if they were related to Caligula.”
Great.
How can you say being a ” flaming socialist” is wrong? You are not making a…..moral judgement, are you?
I don’t care for socialism, either, especially the Obama socialism.
But, some of us just have a problem selling out our values for, what?, money and just doing whatever I please forget anyone else that gets in my way.
I’m not looking for a saint, either. I don’t think most reasonable conservatives are. But, I just think the libertarian view is just not realistic.

Jeff_W on March 12, 2009 at 2:15 pm

BB says: “Hey guitarguy–once again you totally miss it.”
No.
You missed it.
My point: Despite any good example that parents might demonstrate, there is no guarantee that children will follow.
And what’s with the “…once again….”..comment?
Are you keeping a file?

guitarguy on March 12, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Debbie, who are you to say what values Governor Palin holds?
Governor Palin holds strong values and beliefs. Just because you can’t live up to those beliefs and values, doesn’t mean you don’t still believe in them.
Governor Palin’s daughter, an adult, made decisions, that we don’t agree with. If you are gonna hold Governor Palin responsible for her adult daughter’s decisions, then you’ll have to hold President Ronald Reagan responsible for Patti Davis’ numerous abortions, drug abuse etc…
Parents can’t always control what their adult children do, even if those parents hold strong beliefs, which I’m sure Governor Palin does. Talk to the Reagans about their children !

Maxine on March 12, 2009 at 2:31 pm

General Patton routinely took the Lord’s name in vain and married man Eisenhower fooled around with his limey secretary during WWII. Thousands of GI’s entertained impure thoughts while looking at photos of Betty Grable in a swimsuit…
If only Hitler had the people posting here to declare these Americans unfit for their duties due to moral imperfection, the thousand year reich might have lasted more than just twelve.

Tempus Fugit on March 12, 2009 at 2:50 pm

She said they were going to get married when they finished high school. How can you call her a liar? They will never finish HS so we all knew she said they were never getting married. At least I was able to read between the lines.

tate on March 12, 2009 at 3:04 pm

ohboyohboy
Thanks. The GOP better get back to the good governmetn values and mind its own business when it comes to peopel private lives.
Independent COnservative
yeah that Reagan family for shit sure had a great private life. Ron Jr and Patty sure turned out to have their heads on straight. Too many sanctimonious idiots. As soon as I heard the news last night I knew people would be butting into the Palin family business (as the country goes down the tubes)
[R: SARAH PALIN AND HER FAMILY MADE IT OUR BUSINESS BEFORE WE EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT–PUTTING OUT PRESS RELEASES ON HER PREGNANCY, BABY, AND BREAKUP, AND DOING INTERVIEWS ABOUT ALL OF THAT ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL. IF YOU DON’T LIKE THAT IT’S PUBLIC RECORD, YOU SHOULD TELL HER TO STOP BEING AN ATTENTION WHORE AND HER MOTHER TO STOP NEGLECTING HER FAMILY, WHICH CREATED THESE PROBLEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE COUNTRY IS NOT GOING DOWN THE TUBES BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT PROMOTING FAMILY VALUES. IT’S GOING DOWN THE TUBES IN LARGE PART BECAUSE WE NEGLECTED THEM. THE PALINS ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. THEY WILL NEVER BE THE SOLUTION. UNTIL YOU REALIZE THAT, YOU REMAIN IN A SLUMBER. AGAIN, ATTACKING REAGAN SURE WON’T WIN YOU POINTS–EXCEPT WITH LIBERALS. PALIN IS NO REAGAN. NOT EVEN CLOSE. AND UNLIKE HIM, SHE’LL NEVER LIVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE. DS]

Ripper on March 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm

Debbie,
I read here almost daily but have commented very rarely.
On this issue I feel compelled to speak up.
I don’t know what your family situation is. I don’t know if you have ever had teenage children or not.
I can, however, tell you from experience as the parent of a two teenagers (a son and a daughter) that you cannot be with them every single minute.
When you have children you teach them from the time they are babes in arms what your values and expectations are.
As you continue to teach them your expectations and you try to instill in them as much personal responsibility as you possibly can.
When they become teens, in my case they are 17 and 15, you continue to teach them and try to grow them into productive, responsible, contributing adults but you cannot be with them every second.
At some point, you have to begin to trust them and begin to loosen the apron strings just a touch.
Believe me, I know all about the worry and concern that goes into raising teens. I know all about it. I’m living it.
I also know that no matter how much you teach your 17 year old, they will sometimes do things that go totally against what you have taught them.
They will do things which go totally against the examples that you have set for them.
Seventeen year old teenagers will do things that absolutely humiliate their parents.
I know.
I know, because I’ve been there.
My wife works while the children are in school. She is off during the summer so she is not an absent mother. I am not an absent father.
I really believe that it is entirely unfair to blame Sarah Palin for the actions of her teen daughter unless, of course, you can show that Sarah somehow knew what was going on and allowed it to continue. That would be a different issue.
Absent that, being judgmental of Sarah Palin because of Bristol’s actions is inappropriate.
I enjoy reading your blog very much, and normally agree with you but your position on this issue however is a burr under my saddle and I wanted to speak my mind on it.

Aye Chihuahua on March 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm

I’m single, I don’t have children and I don’t presume to be a busybody in other people’s lives. Still, I do think having a child out of wedlock and being a single mother is wrong. I do realize people don’t always live up to the ideal. But its still there and doing the right thing should be its own reward.

NormanF on March 12, 2009 at 8:58 pm

OK guitarguy, OK…
I’ll cut you a break….I guess, but, I still can’t get over your evolutionist take recently blogged on this site. You really believe you came from primordial slime, eh? I’m not used to people actually believing that crap who admit it…that we are the product of time plus chance plus nothing–real sharp.
As for this one, yes, believe it or not, parents can be involved enough to prevent some things from happening. Perhaps, not foreever, but certainly during the teen years. Convicting?

BB on March 12, 2009 at 10:22 pm

BB says: “You really believe you came from primordial slime, eh? I’m not used to people actually believing that crap who admit it…that we are the product of time plus chance plus nothing–real sharp.”
Of course it makes much more sense to believe that some deity simply created man from dust.
And that same deity made woman from the rib of that creature created from dust.
Ah, yes. THAT makes perfect sense.

guitarguy on March 13, 2009 at 8:40 am

guitarguy–thanks for copying my post correctly. So I give you credit for that. and….
Yes I plead guilty to believing in God–and yes the God of the Bible–100%. He is much more than “some deity,” btw.
You? Are we just dust in the wind? I used to think like you, as an atheist, eh? I still want you to check out “Expelled, Intelligence Not Allowed” (get past Ben Stein being the producer–he’s not a scientist nor does he present himself as one).
Facts are the facts–life and creation is no accident–even though one will lose his/her college professorship or teaching license, if he/she exposes that. So check it out, then we’ll have something to really talk about, ok bro?

BB on March 13, 2009 at 10:01 am

BB I was wondering do you have copies of any of the racing forms when man was riding Dinosaurs? If you believe God created the earth then according to the Bible we were roaming the earth with dinosaurs! And of course Darwin was a kook! What other religious books have you read?

ohboyohboy on March 13, 2009 at 3:33 pm

BB: You lost on the ‘Sarah Palin as bad mom’ argument, so you came back with evolution vs. God argument.
One last time:
I have no issue with anyone practicing/following a peaceful religion.
I do have issues with any religion – or religious belief – being included in a science class, and/or being taught as science.
“Expelled, Intelligence Not Allowed” was a crock.
“Facts are the facts–life and creation is no accident–even though one will lose his/her college professorship or teaching license, if he/she exposes that.
Ah, yes. The old lie about professors being fired for going against ‘darwinism’. Give it a rest.
[GG: THE ONLY ONES WHO LOST ON THE SARAH PALIN IS A BAD MOM ARGUMENT ARE PALIN, HER KIDS, HER MR. MOM HUBBY, AND HER OUT-OF-WEDLOCK GRANDSON. FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS. DS]

guitarguy on March 13, 2009 at 4:34 pm

GG: THE ONLY ONES WHO LOST ON THE SARAH PALIN IS A BAD MOM ARGUMENT ARE PALIN, HER KIDS, HER MR. MOM HUBBY, AND HER OUT-OF-WEDLOCK GRANDSON. FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS. DS
Let’s see…..
1 of 5 kids screws-up: Sarah’s fault.
ALL of her kids have ‘lost’…..somehow….
Her husband chose to assist with her career – BY ACTUALLY BEING A DAD AND HUSBAND!!!!!!….when he should have taken a ‘wife stay in kitchen’ attitude.
You’re right, Deb.
That family would’ve been much better off had he divorced that broad. Imagine! A woman actually wanting a career AND family!!! Who the hell does she think she is???
And let’s not forget her ‘Out of wedlock grandson’. Hopefully, children in the schoolyard will rightfully taunt him, and shun him for the shame he’ll bring to the neighborhood.
Why?
Becuase he’s a bastard, that’s why!
Staright to hell, that’s where that ‘out of wedlock’ little bastard goes!
Such a tragedy that all of those Palin children are such losers.
Yes, Deb.
It’s QUITE obvious that Sarah Palin is an absolutely dreadful mother.
Good lord, woman.

guitarguy on March 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm

This Bristol Palin discussion shows how pervasive LEFTIST LIBERALISM is in our society. When conservatives chime in and sing the liberal chorus.
Bristol exposes her Sheela-na-Gig repeatedly to her boyfriend Levi, who takes the plunge, repeatedly, and finally gets her pregnant.
And who is to blame?
Somehow, Sarah Palin, Bristol’s mother!
Incredible!
LEFTISTS ALWAYS hold anyone responsible but the actual perp.
That is, of course, an age-old temptation with the avoidance-of-personal-responsibility crowd. And which we, as Catholics in the modern world, must avoid at all costs.
Shakespeare however nailed it in “Julius Caesar”,
ìThe fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars but in ourselvesÖî
The stars ARE NOT to blame.
Governor Sarah IS NOT to blame.
Society IS NOT to blame.
Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston are to blame. That’s it. Wrap.
’nuff said.

The Canadien on March 16, 2009 at 3:36 am

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