March 4, 2009, - 12:21 pm

The “Watchmen” Lie: Hollywood Sends More Depravity Your Kids’ Way Costumed as “Superhero” Flick

By Debbie Schlussel
**** UPDATE, 03/05/09: Watchmen Derangement Syndrome Takes Hold; Movie Continues to Be Marketed to Kids ****
If you take your kids to see “Watchmen,” you’re a moron.
If you see it yourself, you’re also probably a moron and a vapid, indecent human being. The movie arrives in theaters at Midnight, Thursday Night. It’s rated “R”–which should kinda sorta be a hint–but it really deserves an “NC-17,” at the very least. And plenty of clueless parents brought their young kids and kept them there for the entire almost three hour “experience” at the screening I attended.
Yes, I know, it’s being heavily marketed as a superhero movie, with action figures for your kids. But that–and the heroic-looking movie trailer–are a big, fat lie. And that’s where real parenting comes in . . . like actually investigating the movie before you take or send your kids to see this garbage.
In fact, as a movie critic who sees most new releases, I haven’t seen a more violent, depraved movie in years (not to mention a longer, more boring movie with a more preposterous and silly plot). This movie makes the graphic bloodshed of the recently released “Friday the 13th” look like “Cinderella.”

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This really isn’t a superhero movie at all. In fact, there was little “superheroing” until after the second hour of this nearly three-hour exercise on defining deviancy down. Some on the right are claiming this is a conservative movie because it’s made by some of the same people as “300” (read my review). But this is no “300.” (And that wasn’t for kids either, but this is far much less so.) A few lines of dialogue by the character “Rorschach” deriding “liberals and intellectuals” doesn’t excuse the nearly three hours of poison here. In fact, the movie kind of has a peacenik-themed ending and “message” regarding nuclear weapons. If this move is “conservative,” who the heck needs liberal?
There were so many disgusting, violent, morbid, grisly scenes and acts of killing, I had to start writing them down, lest I forget. And that’s in addition to the rape scene between superheroes (complete with violent beating of a female superhero) and an explicit sex scene between two other superheroes. Oh, and don’t forget another superhero’s swinging computer-generated penis frequently in your face on-screen.
In just the opening credits of this mindless celluloid claptrap, there’s a lesbian take-off on the famous photo of a woman kissing a sailor in Manhattan who is returning victorious from World War II. The lesbian make-out scene, featuring a “superhero,” is bad enough. But then, we see cops looking over their naked, bloodied, dead bodies on a bed, with the words “LESBIAN WHORES,” written in blood on the wall.
Mommy, mommy, what’s a lesbian? What’s a whore? And remember, this is just the opening credits.
The “plot” of this movie–if you can call it a plot–is that there were costumed superheroes in the ’40s and beyond. They grew old, but some of them didn’t. Then a new crop of costumed superheroes with special powers cropped up, some of whom were related to the older ones and some who still remained from the older group. But they all retired. Now, a superhero known as “The Comedian”–who is also a rapist and shot a Vietnamese woman who was pregnant with his kid (all of which we see depicted on-screen)–is murdered, and some of the superheroes, the “Watchmen,” get back together to find out who did it.
At the same time, the Soviets are about to nuke America. It’s 1985 and Nixon is President. We’ve won in Vietnam. Oh, and Henry Kissinger has a Russian accent. And Ronald Reagan is thinking of running for President in 1988. Wow, isn’t that cool that they got it wrong on purpose? I’m so amazed at this “high-brow art” of deliberately getting dates and timelines wrong, you know, just to be “artistic,” and get the drooling of the critics. That is sooooo genius. Like way totally cool.
Maybe if I make a movie about how Eisenhower was President in 1972, we “lost” World War II, and Bin Laden was gonna bomb the World Trade Center then, I’ll be cool, too. . . so long as it’s “dark” and I include a bunch of rape, torture, explicit sex scenes, and extremely graphic killings, and oh, write a “graphic novel” a/k/a comic book about it, first.
In the midst of this stupid story, we’re treated to the following:
* Dogs fighting over, tearing apart, and eating a six-year-old girl–we’re shown them chowing down on and tearing apart the remaining leg and leg bone, with the sock and shoe still on the bone as the dogs wrestle over it;
* A close up of man repeatedly getting an axe-blade driven through his skull while he’s being butchered;
* At least two very graphic scenes of naked superhero “Dr. Manhattan” vaporizing people to just blood, limbs, and guts hanging from the ceiling or spread in the snow;
* Many scenes of Dr. Manhattan’s computer generated penis swinging about;
* A kid biting a giant, bloody chunk of flesh out of another kid’s face–he grows up to be “Rorschach,” one of the superheroes’ compatriots;
* A man’s hands and arms being sawed off with an electric saw–we’re shown the bloody stumps and the bloody sawed off limbs in close up shots;
* A man with vat of hot french fry oil deliberately thrown over his head–we literally see him fry, and he ultimately dies, we’re told (no kidding);
* Many, many scenes of people’s hands, arms, fingers being broken in half or crunched by the “superheroes”;
* Cops being set on fire and burning to death by superhero compatriot “Rorschach;”
* Superhero “The Comedian” (a bad Robert Downey, Jr. look-alike) brutally beating and raping another superhero–tis movie concludes that the rape was a good thing b/c the slutty superhero had a slutty superhero daughter from him;
* Superhero “The Comedian” shooting and killing a Vietnamese woman because she’s pregnant with his kid;
* Superhero “The Comedian” being thrown off a roof of a tall building–we see his body hit the ground and the blood flow out;
* Two superheroes have an explicit sex scene in a spaceship–she’s on top, then he’s on top, awesome–you can teach your young kids multiple sexual positions before they even reach puberty, by taking them to see this (there’s a less explicit sex scene between the slutty superheroine and another superhero not long before that).
And these are just the highlights, plus superheroes hurling obscenities–great for the kiddies. There’s so much more–along with horrible make-up, bad acting, and terrible computer generated images (including the penis). Not to mention, a bad, extremely slow, and boring script.
Yup, this is the garbage that Rupert Murdoch’s Fox and Warner Brothers and Paramount are marketing toward your kids. All of these studios have a piece in this movie. And even thought the budget was just $100 to $125 million, because of a long legal battler between WB and Fox, the legal fees and pay-out make it such that they must recoup at least $200 or 300 million and make a profit. To do so, they are pimping the movie to all niches, especially your young kids.
But just because shameless whores and crack dealers of Hollywood deal this stuff out, doesn’t mean you have to buy it and poison your kids’ minds with it.
Remember the morons I told you about who took their kids to see the latest “Friday the 13th,” last month? Well, they were back with their kids at a Monday Night screening of this horribly depraved, whacked out movie.
Remember the White single mother who told me her ten-year-old son could see it because “he knows it’s not real and he knows the difference between right and wrong”? Well, she was back with her ten-year-old, and they waited in line for at least two hours with their free pass to get in to this screening, I’m told. I saw them walking out at the end.
Her son is going to grow up to be messed up. Don’t do the same to your kid.
And do yourself a favor, too. Save the ten bucks and the three hours of your life you’ll never get back. And the nightmares of some guy’s bloody, sawed-off arms and hands still clinging to the doors of a jail cell.
I don’t just worry that this is the new superhero movie being marketed to your kids today. I worry about the ones that will be even more depraved a decade from now.
G-d help this country (minus Hollywood).
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367 Responses

And your typing every message in all caps makes you seem like an idiot. Stop that, you dumb fucking cunt.

United States of Narchy on March 4, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Don’t look at me….I’m a 20 something who knows nothing about The Watchmen.
It’s the parents fault in the first place for taking their kids with them for the special screening, knowing damn well the movie is rated R. “But hey, I’m a psychonut and I can do whatever the hell I want! I’m gonna use free speech as a shield to do what I want and no one is gonna stop me.”
That’s all all the watchmen defenders are basicly saying here. And no, don’t even tell me about the comic/graphic novel/whatever becuase it doesn’t interests me one bit.
I’m just waiting for the day Debbie (or any conservative) critizes a japanese anime. Once that happens, I’ll be the first one to debate her on it!!

Squirrel3D on March 4, 2009 at 9:32 pm

I read all of the previous comments and won’t add to the well-spoken arguments that have been presented to (and completely, irrationally rejected by) you.
I will say this, however: yes, there are some people who are going to bring their kids to this movie. I don’t agree with such an action either, but I highly doubt that anyone who was already going to bring their kid was reading your column.
It’s because those particular parents -don’t care-. Those who do have read your article are probably the types who wouldn’t have brought under-18 year olds to an ‘R’ movie.
Final point: I don’t consider the violence and other mature content of this movie to be, as you deride it, “like so totally awesome”. But it’s not portrayed to be that way. The Comedian is a BAD GUY. The movie portrays his horrific actions as reprehensible, not glorified and respected.
I don’t really expect you to take any of this to thought because you can be classified as a fanatic, being immovable in your extreme perceptions. But I just had to say it.

nisamak on March 4, 2009 at 9:36 pm

not to be a prick or anything but I’m a great fan of the original graphic novel. It’s violent as hell but IMHO the story is innovative and clever.
im psyched to see the movie. I don’t think its been marketed towards kids (I haven’t seen any spots on any of the kids channels my younger bro watches). and the original graphic novel is heavy (both literally and figuratively).
the problem here is that maybe someone brought their child. That doesn’t make this movie “filth” or “pro-violence indoctrination”. It’s a violent movie. that’s it.
American Movies are violent by default.
Even the oldschool bugs bunny cartoons had a certain level of violence in them. I mean how many times has Wile E. Coyote fallen off a cliff. and the Comedian falls out a window in a very similar manner.
If parents bring their kids to see this, its their lack of judgement, and therefore their fault. not the fault of the creative forces behind this movie. I personally love violent films.
Violence does not automatically mean bad. and i’m truly sorry you werent able to enjoy the film, because it is an important piece of pop culture, and one of the greatest graphic novels ever made.
The story isn’t that “crazy”. It just takes a little less hatred towards the subject matter to fully comprehend it.

c.slackrun on March 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm

And criticizing a movie is now a cardinal sin? Movie critics exist to tell people whether a movie is worth watching. They have experience with knowing whether its worth spending the money to see it. DUH. A movie with pointless sex and violence is NOT a good movie. I once saw “Damage” with Jeremy Irons and I thought the lesson about how adultery can destroy a family is a powerful one. The ending where he looks lost after his son discovers him sleeping with his fiance is one that has stayed with me. You can tell when an adult story has a message and intelligence to it. The movie Debbie reviewed has neither to it.

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm

Narchy… I’ve heard many things in my life but a Jew being compared to Neo-Nazi scum? That’s a low blow…. as well as calling Debbie an idiot because she has no other way of distinguishing her comments from those of other posters. A really classy way to defend a movie. Don’t bother to defend its merits; just toss cheap insults in the direction of the critic and hope they stick. Right out of Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals. Thanks for reminding us what kind of trash people from the cultural gutter in this country stoop to justify because its obvious its not more than that to any one with a glimmer of intelligence and decency. That’s wasted on the likes of those you who appear to like ” The Watchmen.”

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 9:47 pm

Not all violence and sex is bad. Some people lack reading comprehension. Debbie said there is nothing redeeming in the movie that compels someone to sit through three hours in a theater to endure it. Its just pointless, sickening and depraved. But that’s lost on people who’ve made up their minds that a review is not going to change their desire to see the movie.

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 9:51 pm

for the record theres nothing wrong with liking watchmen.
if a guy likes ballet, doesnt make him a fag. makes him a guy who likes ballet.
guys who like watchmen, doesnt make us violent bastards. makes us guys who like watchmen.

c.slackrun on March 4, 2009 at 9:54 pm

Providence, you’ve made my point for me. It certainly is NOT OK. Evil never is. Now graphic violence is “freedom of expression.” I’m soo glad to hear the post-modernist interpretation of the First Amendment and as well as about sexual assault and carving up human beings.
RE: Maybe I didn’t state myself clearly enough. This movie isn’t justifying evil. Sure it depicts evil, but it sure as hell isn’t encouraging it. I’m not supporting the acts of sexual assault and the mutilation of other people here, but what I am saying is that it’s a part of the story, and its meaning and intentions root deeper than “omg that’s so gory!”
When writing Watchmen, Moore wasn’t thinking “man, evil is cool” or “this part’s going to be sooo gross”. He knew what he was doing. These parts of the film are reflecting their respected parts in the original source material.
This was a graphic novel that had a statement, and it most definitely wasn’t that evil is okay.

Providence on March 4, 2009 at 9:55 pm

NormanF-
If you read the comments, the majority of people asked Debbie to cite examples of how this movie was being marketed to children (which she has yet to do). Rather, she reacted like a big baby and called everyone names. No wonder other websites like HotAir and Ace of Spades shun her as much as they do.

alucias85 on March 4, 2009 at 9:56 pm

And by your reasoning slackrun, if someone likes “Mein Kampf,” he still has Jewish friends. Yeah, sure!

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 9:57 pm

“”And is on Time’s list of the best novels since 1923″, really, a late 80’s comic book has been on Times best list since 1923, what are you stupid.”
No, I’m not stupid. I just worded the sentence badly. The list is of the best novels that have been published since the year 1923. So a late 80s comic book could have been put on there since the 80s (at least as far as I am aware) came after 1923.

Cheshire on March 4, 2009 at 10:00 pm

Providence, what you say is the movie’s message? By all means, please feel free to share with us.

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 10:00 pm

c.slackrun
“post modernist interpretation of the first amendment”
care to explain that?
guess you would prefer a return to the hayes rule and the comic code, where self censorship was practiced to the detriment of art.
or do you believe that the only protected speech is that which can be considered political?

uncle joe mccarthy on March 4, 2009 at 10:19 pm

That would be “anything goes” it must be art. Its the opposite of censorship. In a generation, the pendulum has swung completely in the opposite direction. No one is advocating censorship today, but what about decorum and good taste? Or movies can’t be made like that any more, that elevate an audience’s expectations rather than pandering to their basest instincts? Hollywood turns out a product and not all of it is necessarily art by any conceivable standard. Some it is simply garbage.

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 10:32 pm

NormanF
art is in the eye of the beholder.
i personally dont like when things are too explicit, yet i can understand showing the reality of violence.
would the beach scene in saving private ryan have had as much of an impact had speilburgh made the violence bloodless?
maybe you think its better when there is an action film and bullets fly, but no blood is shed…so thats “cool”, but its not very realistic
when people get shot or cut, they bleed and die
it is not a negative to show the consequences of an act.
and this country remains so hung up on fake sex on film…totally absurd

uncle joe mccarthy on March 4, 2009 at 10:52 pm

There has to be a context. Sensationalism is just wretched excess. A movie filled with excessive sex and violence would teach us nothing about life.

NormanF on March 4, 2009 at 11:01 pm

how this film is being marketed to kids. Well, tonight on the history channel is a show called “spider-man tech”. some kids might be interested in that, maybe even some adults. The watchmen trailer has played during the commercials. So kids super hero show, advertising for “R” rated super porn movie. So yes some adults who are not aware of the graphic nature of this film may decide to take their kids to this movie.
At least with Debbie’s review you know what to expect. With other reviews they gloss over it and kiss warner brothers ass to try and get as many people in the seats this weekend before word spreads around.
Also, taking book or comic book reading advice from the people (time magazine) who named Hitler their Man of the Year in 1939 is not the best magazine to take tips from.

ender on March 5, 2009 at 12:08 am

“I just worded the sentence badly.” you and all the other posters who copied and pasted the same line, from whatever site is trying to flood Debbies comments.
She reviewed the movie. She didn’t like it and warned people of it’s true content. She didn’t say “ban it, censor it or any thing else” just to not take your kids to it.
Plus, she reviews movies, not comic books. You all sound like people who see a movie and then complain “well, the book was better” (pretty much every Stephen King movie/book). When you see a movie you shouldn’t have to read a book to get ready for it. If the film can’t stand on it’s own then it should fail. This is also why I hate so many “origin” films, why not just do a story and get on with it.

ender on March 5, 2009 at 12:16 am

Wow this is one of the funniest review i have ever read.
But anyway this was never marketed to kids at all. It is rated R for a reason you know. It not spider-man or fantastic four.
Watchmen is not a superhero movie, it is more of a deconstruction of the superhero myth. The comic portrayed superhero as people with real problems. It is not just a reflection of the superhero genre but also a reflection of American society itself.
Maybe you should have done some research before seeing the movie.

protoman900 on March 5, 2009 at 12:19 am

“She didn’t say “ban it, censor it or any thing else” just to not take your kids to it.”
She did a lot more than that. She insulted people who are planning on seeing it. She called us morons and bad human beings.

FearEmbodied on March 5, 2009 at 12:20 am

“If you take your kids to see “The Watchmen,” you’re a moron.”
This is true. No one defending the movie is saying it’s a movie for children. No one defending the movie ever had the least impression from any sources that this was a movie for children. Apparently the author DID think it was a movie for children, and I can see how that would make it all the more shocking.
And ender, she absolutely did not say “just to not take your kids to it.” She said this…
“If you see it yourself, you’re also probably a moron and a vapid, indecent human being.”
That doesn’t sound like a warning to not take your kids to this movie (with which anyone defending it would strongly agree), it sounds like a value judgment on the worth of those who disagree with her.

Synova on March 5, 2009 at 12:25 am

I GUESS IF I TYPE IN ALL CAPS, I WILL REALLY GET MY POINT ACROSS FOR SURE! THAT’LL GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH ME FOR SURE!!
No, not really Debbie. It just makes you look stupid and your content less credible. But it sure is funny as hell to read, please do continue 🙂
And also,as many other people have said, the movie is rated “R”, and the toys are NOT geared towards kids (no reading comprehension needed to prove that point, any action figure that is priced at $200 + is not for kids). And If you want to complain at people about reading comprehension, read the definition of the “R” rating, straight from the MPAA website:
“An R-rated motion picture, in the view of the Rating Board, contains some adult material. An R-rated motion picture may include adult themes, adult activity, hard language, intense or persistent violence, sexually-oriented nudity, drug abuse or other elements, so that parents are counseled to take this rating very seriously. Children under 17 are not allowed to attend R-rated motion pictures unaccompanied by a parent or adult guardian. Parents are strongly urged to find out more about R-rated motion pictures in determining their suitability for their children. Generally, it is not appropriate for parents to bring their young children with them to R-rated motion pictures.”
(here’s a link for ya too http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp)
So yeah, that whole “marketed towards kids” argument does NOT hold up. As a side note, you may want to consider using more professional language when writing a review to get a “serious” (ha!) point across. I felt like a 13 year old had written that review at many points throughout reading it.

Rozzara on March 5, 2009 at 12:27 am

Whoops, that link was messed up, here it is in correct format http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

Rozzara on March 5, 2009 at 12:31 am

“you and all the other posters who copied and pasted the same line, from whatever site is trying to flood Debbies comments.”
Uhm, source please on that? All everyone is doing is actually using *gasp* sources and evidence to back up their arguments instead of throwing a tantrum.

alucias85 on March 5, 2009 at 12:33 am

Someone sent me a link to this review based on how idiotic, ill-informed, and ridiculous it is. I wholeheartedly agree with her. This is not for you, so why review it? It is not for kids. If a parent can take ten seconds and read that the film has “strong graphic violence, sexuality, nudity, and language”, then good for them. If they don’t, then it’s their own fault. You come across as an uppity, holier-than-thou, sheltered ninny who shakes her finger at everyone telling them how naughty they are. Get a life and grow up. YOU are the moron…

doc on March 5, 2009 at 12:36 am

Woo, if you think this is bad deb, you should go check out http://www.4chan.org

SomeGuy123 on March 5, 2009 at 12:48 am

It’s great that you’re trying to take time out of your busy schedule of probably standing around glaring at people with differing opinions from you to warn parents of the evils that movies hold for their children, but the point is that this movie was never intended for kids. There are adults who collect figures, whether you agree with that or not, and the toys were marketed toward them as well as the movie. It’s been created based on a long standing graphic novel and is marketed and caters toward the fans. It makes no attempt to disguise itself as a kids’ movie, and the trailers themselves market political intrigue and violence, the former of which should direct kids away and the latter of which should get parents to direct their children away. Anybody who takes their kids to see this is guilty themselves of not caring, so you’d probably be better served fighting a battle that actually matters instead of using the empty power of the internet to cater to other armchair revolutionaries.

guardian on March 5, 2009 at 12:51 am

so that debbie and all her reg posters know, debbies “review” was posted on imdb…as were other reviews for the movie.
that is why traffic has increased.
debbie should be happy
she finally gets a readership of more than one.
btw, miss you on howard

uncle joe mccarthy on March 5, 2009 at 1:11 am

She’s typing in caps so that you can locate her text quicker.
Much like Synova, I could not believe the content in this review much less the fact that it was written by a college educated individual. You think the content is disgusting, I get it. Don’t go see it. Do not take your CHILDREN to see it. There is a reason that it is rated R.
It is rated R.
It is rated R.
It is rated R.
Do you not get it? Stop spewing this drivel about how it is being marketed to kids. I fully realize that your clownery caters to the fundamentalist crusader audience that fervently follows you but stop with the baseless arguments infused with your beliefs.
The Rorschach comment about your satisfaction when he derides liberals and intellectuals wasn’t fully unexpected as you are neither of those.
When Pan’s Labyrinth came out did you look at the rating on it or charge blindly into the theater then come out ranting and screaming about how you thought it was just about a fairy tale?

Wulf on March 5, 2009 at 1:14 am

As a liberal Watchmen fan, it would be easy for me to say “FUCK YOU BITCH WATCHMEN IS AWESOME,” but I’m going to try to rationally explain to you why Watchmen (the comic in particular)is more than the gore-fest you interpreted it to be.
It is true that alternate histories do not make something more highbrow. Writing a story based on the premise of “HAY, WHAT IF ALIENS INVADED EARTH DURING WORLD WAR II SO, LIKE, FIGHT THEM AND STUFF(the storyline of the video game Resistance: Fall of Man)” is hardly intellectual. What Watchmen does is takes the broad idea of “What if costumed crimefighters actually existed?” and examines the more serious implications of that, such as “If superheroes were real, how would that affect history, or technology, or even religion?”
Why do typical comic book superheroes do what they do? Because crime is wrong and must be punished… and stuff… Why do the costumed heroes of Watchmen do what they do? Perhaps they want to play out a childhood power fantasy, or to fight feelings of impotence. Maybe they got into it for the glory, or maybe they’re just insane. If superheroes existed and you got them into a psychologists couch, I suspect these reasons would be more likely to come up than the ideal motivations of Golden or Silver age heroes.
Being a comic, there’s more than just the story, there’s the visuals as well. Watchmen is rife with symbolism and parallelisms that are impossible to catch the first time through. Everything is connected, in a way that’s too hard for me to describe. This site (http://iat.ubalt.edu/moulthrop/hypertexts/wm/watch.cfm) provides a very comprehensive guide to the tangled web that is Watchmen. The ability for a work to be analyzed and pored over like this truly separates it from other works. One could say that Watchmen is the Citizen Kane of comic books.
I look forward to your reply.

Lucien_Lachance on March 5, 2009 at 1:23 am

Debbie,
You keep on saying that this movie is marketed towards children. Can you provide any actual evidence to back you claim (no, the fact that PARENTS brought there children to see the movie is not proof that it was DIRECTLY marketed to children). Perhaps you could supply us with some links to advertisements or company memos that mention advertising to young children. Good luck in your search! And remember, citing your sources is an important part of journalism!

brad on March 5, 2009 at 1:43 am

This review looks like revenge of the f’ing psychos! Talk about a rash of pedophile philosophers standing up for their favorite movie! So this is what society has bred? A horde of perverted psudo intellectual nerds that like violent comics with sex.
To quote Travis Bickel from “Taxi Driver”: Someday a good rain will wash all the scum off the side walk….(A cool Noahs ark reference). Bottom line the movie sucked and isn’t for kids.

samurai on March 5, 2009 at 1:44 am

Remember when nerds were into Star Trek? Now they’ve found the computer key board to be tough on. Especially when they address women. Or anybody anonymously. And before you nerds with vaseline on your hands start hurling nasty words at me, I AM a modern day samurai for real. Level four prison is my playground. I couldn’t care less about you and your kids. I’ll see them or you soon enough.lol

samurai on March 5, 2009 at 1:56 am

Someone claiming to be a modern day samurai just hit a level of nerd higher than anyone else. There are smaller nerds orbiting that monstrosity.
May I worship you?

Wulf on March 5, 2009 at 2:00 am

“This review looks like revenge of the f’ing psychos! Talk about a rash of pedophile philosophers standing up for their favorite movie!”
So we’re pedophiles now? As well as morons and terrible human beings like Debbie so politely stated.
Damn, the right sure know how to breed ’em. If you’re a modern-day Samurai then why don’t you go gut yourself?

FearEmbodied on March 5, 2009 at 2:01 am

Samurai only committed suicide after dishonoring themselves or losing in battle. You assault women online and maybe in person. You need to take your own advice. Calling myself samurai is an honest nickname. Fellow coworkers say “Warrior”. You’re obviously neither. I’ve been making a living 23 years this way and have yet to be taken out for more than one day for injuries. The right are the only thing holding this country together, coward named Fearembodied. Get some sleep and let the meth wear off, dope.

samurai on March 5, 2009 at 2:08 am

You have dishonored yourself. Not only that, you’ve dishonored the entire human race.
Also, read both of my posts before this one and show me how I have “assaulted” her. You can’t, because I didn’t. You’re a sap, nothing more. You’re a total idiot who has delusional himself into think he’s a feudal Japanese warrior. You better watch out, I hear they passed a law saying you can’t wear your swords on your side anymore. What’s up with that?
Maybe you should get some sleep, Tom Cruise.

FearEmbodied on March 5, 2009 at 2:12 am

You’re dishonoring yourself by keeping that job for 23 years.

Wulf on March 5, 2009 at 2:14 am

If you take kids to an R rated film and expect family fun, you’re an idiot.
If you go to a film whose advertisements make it clear that the main character thinks society unworthy of being saved and expect the purity of Superman, you’re an idiot.
If you complain about a story written in 1985 as an allegory for the contemporary political tensions being set in a fictionalised 1985, guess what you are?

johnny_5 on March 5, 2009 at 2:20 am

i’ve always wondered what was the inspiration for this picture; samurai answered that for me:
http://thxforthe.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dontworry-imfromtheinternet.jpg

alucias85 on March 5, 2009 at 2:26 am

I am not a moron.
Just because there are irresponsible parents in the world doesn’t mean that movies intended for mature audiences should cease being made.
As far as I’ve seen, this movie is absolutely not being marketed towards children. There are collectible figures being sold in collectible comic book shops – NOT Toys r Us or Walmart. There have been no advertisements during children’s programming or during the ‘family hour’ of prime time.
Watchmen is a movie made for adults, based on a book written for adults. I don’t think anyone has been misleading about this fake, and frankly after ‘The Dark Knight,’ (which was an extremely mature movie in my opinion but WAS marketed towards children) parents should be aware that not all movies where people wear costumes are kid fodder.
Anyone who takes their child to a movie without checking the rating or simply based on the genre is probably beyond help anyways. THEY’RE the morons, not me.

tennman on March 5, 2009 at 7:40 am

“You assault women online and maybe in person.”
How have we assaulted her in person? Seriously.
Also: take into consideration that she assaulted us first (if by assault we mean insult, since that’s all we seem to have done). She insinuated that we were somehow horrible human beings because we wanted to see a movie that she happened to not like. A movie that IS NOT marketed towards children, despite what some idiot parents (and this woman) think.
“A horde of perverted psudo intellectual nerds that like violent comics with sex.”
No, I like comics with a DEEPER MEANING. If you read Watchmen and all you see is violence and sex, you have missed the whole thing. Oh, and make sure to spell ‘pseudo’ correctly please.

Cheshire on March 5, 2009 at 8:04 am

haha
I see the hassle the lie-barrels and “conservatives” are giving you, Deborah.
I personally wiould like to thank you for revealing the uglyness of thie “movie” before I see it. Now, I can just skip it, buy the popcorn and go home!
God bless

Mats on March 5, 2009 at 8:42 am

The only moronic and vapid, indecent human being I see here is you, Debbie. Although your knowledge of “Watchmen” is as expected as an average male’s knowledge of “Sex in the City,” (or should I say “The Sex and the City,” as you certainly incorrectly called this picture “The Watchmen”) I must say that your review is extremely close minded and can only come from such a narrow-headed conservative “God forbid I type the word ‘god’” religious nut as yourself.
I’m not ragging on the fact that you didn’t like the film – statistically speaking it’s expected. You certainly don’t fill that middle-aged male demographic the studio is marketing to, and it’s clear as day you’ve never picked up this 20-year old novel, let alone know who the hell Alan Moore is. My beef is the fact that your entire review has done nothing but bitch and moan about children seeing this film. For starters, how do you say this film is being marketed towards children? Merely because they have made action figures based on the characters? Well that must be it then! Dear golly, I’m getting Susie a My Sized Barbie and a Dr. Manhattan this Christmas! God forbid a grown man such as myself, as well as hundreds of thousands of other grown adult Watchmen fans want collectible figurines. Never saw that one coming!
Voo-doo “we’re the anti-Christ” marketing that you CLAIM to see aside – I’ve not seen Watchmen cereal boxes, playsets, costumes, or commercials on Nickelodeon – so until this happens, we’ll just assume the studio knows that they’ve made an ADULT film based off an ADULT series. The film is, in fact, rated R. The MPAA assigns these ratings to let parents know what the film contains – let’s see what’s plastered on every single Watchmen poster, trailer, and commercial:
“Rated R for STRONG GRAPHIC violence, sexuality, nudity and language.”
Holy shit. Did you not expect anything less than this going into the movie? If a mother gives her 11 year-old child $10 to see a movie, the theater won’t be selling him/her a ticket to Watchmen without the mother there. In fact, even if the mother WERE there they’d most likely kindly inform her of the rating. If she approves, then tough shit. Parental consent was given and what happens after that rests on the mother’s shoulder – yep. THAT’S IT. It doesn’t involve your choices or what YOU would have done, it’s THEIR decision – hence the free country thing and all that jazz. The fact that you take what should have been nothing more than a movie review of “I didn’t like it, and here’s why,” you made your Watchmen review yet another reason for the rest of the world to laugh and poke fun at your kind of mentality – turning it into an anti-violence anti-open parenting campaign. I expect the next time you review a movie, you’ll do your research beforehand – walking into Watchmen expecting the next Spider-Man is a mistake I’d expect from you, but using that to preach to the world is not good writing. Stick to your thoughts and opinions on a film, and maybe you wouldn’t come off as such the prissy close-minded next door neighbor from hell that you do.
Luckily though, you just single handedly raised Watchmen’s opening box office numbers by several points. Many of my friends weary of seeing this film have now decided to join me this evening after reading your review. The folks you wrote this for, the ones that agree with you holding picket signs and flaming torches, weren’t going to see this movie from the start. Unlike you, they don’t see movies they know they won’t like. But I can guarantee you that you have caused thousands to stop what they’re doing, and see Watchmen as soon as humanly possible. Funny how that works, eh?

Campbell on March 5, 2009 at 9:36 am

WOW! What a bunch of crap! Too much hostility here! The movie WAS marketed to “kids”: all of you kids who never grew up! I don’t care if you’re 20-something or 30-something. If you still read comic books and enjoy this sh*t, you are still, mentally, a kid. Do us all a favor and either grow up or shut up!

you are right on March 5, 2009 at 9:39 am

I, for one, am VERY grateful for your movie reviews Debbie. Since I quit reading comic books when I was twelve years old (like most people who actually matured since that time in their lives), I would never have known this was anything other than a superhero movie for kids. Thank you for sacrificing those three hours of your life so the rest of us (and especially our kids) are spared.

PDMac60 on March 5, 2009 at 10:04 am

Got to love the “Gofobo” crowd Debbie, not throwing a free plug in at all there either.
The arguement could be made that this movie is not being marketed towards kids at all with the “R” rating that this movie was bestowed with.
I was at another advance screening in the same movie theatre that Watchmen was being shown at, and yes many of the same parents continue to bring their infant kids that howl throughout the entire movie to these sneak previews.
Just a question, not a criticism pardon the lame pun, but is your review of the movie actually indicative of the quality of this movie since you’ve stated in the past you’re not a fan of violent movies?

trewsdetroit on March 5, 2009 at 10:04 am

“Then a new crop of costumed superheroes with special powers cropped up”
Full stop. This is equivalent to someone stating that two plus two make five and then expecting to be taken seriously when discussing mathematics.

marcus on March 5, 2009 at 10:07 am

I agree that it’s being marketed to kids. How many kids watch American Idol? A bunch, right? I saw at least 2 commercials for this movie during Idol. How is that NOT family viewing time or NOT marketed to kids? For those who were diparaging (that means “disapproving”)Debbie because she “didn’t do her research” or “it was based on a graphic novel,” you completely missed the point. The point she was trying to make, that you failed to get, was that this is being marketed to children! Do we need to speak slow and not use big words for you to understand this?

Mklombard333 on March 5, 2009 at 10:37 am

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