Gotta love the French. Yeah, since the same gun was used to shoot an off duty French soldier & 2 French paratroops, in addition to this most recent incident, it MUST’VE been some “right-winger.” Yes, folks, a Frech right-winger is shooting up French troops.

Gimme a freaking break!

Con Chef (NB) on March 19, 2012 at 12:17 pm

A French patriot shooting French troops AND Jews?

Yeah, sure. Goes to show people will believe anything they’re told after.

After all, the Religion Of Peace is absolutely pacifistic and benevolent. BS!

At any rate, we’ll eventually find out the identity of the shooter.

And there’s a lesson here for European Jews that no amount of hatred of them and murders of Jewish adults and children seem to get through to them: Europe is no longer safe for Jews.

That said, let’s hope they reconsider and make aliyah to Israel and my thoughts and prayers go to the victims and their families.

NormanF on March 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm

The killer is NOT muslim !

They found that he might the same one as the one that killed the French soldiers, that were

2 French muslims soldiers from North American origin (R.I.P)
1 French black slodier from Carribean origin (R.I.P)

and now the killing of 4 French jews from Israel (R.I.P)

Before accusing some kind of people and ask irronicaly
” Guess the religion ” , try to get more informations before and promote ” LIVING TOGETHER ” :))

A French Jew living in Israel.

Yohav on March 19, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Unless the French Jewish community is able to arm itself, and indulge in learning physical self-defense tactics, they ought to get the hell out while there’s still time.

Not Ovenready on March 19, 2012 at 1:03 pm

Heres hoping they catch the murderer.

Patrick AKA DetroitRight on twitter on March 19, 2012 at 1:06 pm

testing…

Again, I hope they catch the guy.

Patrick in Michigan on March 19, 2012 at 1:09 pm

May the Al-mighty Avenge Their Blood.

Miranda Rose Smith on March 19, 2012 at 1:17 pm

I pray for the victims and their families, and am horrified by this cowardly attack. I agree with “Not Evenready”, we need to learn to be vigilant and to rely on ourselves for protection.

John on March 19, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Knowing the PC French they will most likely blame Yamaha! “Head in the sand” is too nice a term DS!!!

Hollywood on March 19, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Debbie, please. Why do you do this? Why do you waste your education and beauty and humanity on spreading hateful stories that you cannot corroborate? French authorities have confirmed that the gun used to kill these innocent people at the Jewish school was THE SAME gun that killed French troops of North African descent. Why, oh why, must you constantly pit Muslims vs. Jews, when it appears that individuals from both of these religions were targeted by a murderer?

Please, Debbie, I am begging you. Please stop fueling the fire with your hate.

mags on March 19, 2012 at 1:23 pm

“French police stepped up the search for a killer moped-rider with a tattooed face……..” A tattooed face? Is this something a muslim would do? Never seen that before. Just askin.

Duck on March 19, 2012 at 1:23 pm

The fact that the targets of last week’s shootings were “minorities” have led some to suggest it might have been someone affiliated with the National Front because they’re “anti-immigrant”. (Never mind that the Jews have been there for centuries.) But I’m not convinced.

It shouldn’t be assumed the killer recognized the soldiers’ “minority” or even Muslim heritage, and even if he did if the killer was Muslim he could have deemed them “traitors” for fighting on behalf of an “infidel” army. Moreover, it’s now reported that letters were received by two synagogues in Paris warning them to “prepare for hell” because they were the “party of Satan” – which is terminology used by Islamists. (This report comes from the Times of Israel.)

The victims will be buried in Israel. May their memories be for a blessing.

Raymond in DC on March 19, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Yohav should try his ‘living together’ w/ Muslims by moving to Ramallah or Qalqiliya and seeing how well it works out. I imagine it would be not a long drive away from wherever in Israel he lives.

In the meantime, a suberb in Berlin is tense after a mob of Turks attempted to kill a native German, and one of them was stabbed to death by him in self-defense. One more of those ‘live together’ social experiments which the Euro-polypragnomists have imposed on their societies for 50 years and more.

Infidel on March 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm

Sorry Deb, it appears you are jumping the gun (no pun intended).
Very recent reports indicate that the other victims killed prior to the Jewish day school shooting today, who appear to be the victims of the same shooter or shooters, were of arab descent.
So while the shooter(s) may be Islamic/arab, their killing are not directed only against Jews..

Charlie on March 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Hey Yohav… je suis pied-noir.

Now that I’ve said that, I’d like to remind you that my father’s family fled Algeria in the 60s to escape the Islamist mobs that were taking over the former French territory. They would’ve stayed there, but it wouldn’t be too good for their health, sanity or survival.

As for DS’s comment about heads stuck in sand, it would’ve been a little quaint if people weren’t knee-deep in shit as well.

OTOH – it could be happening right now.

Kill ’em all: let Satan sort them out.

The Reverend Jacques on March 19, 2012 at 2:57 pm

I can probably see that this thread is going to attract all of the muslim-apologist useful-idiot dhimmi’s and make every excuse for the so-called “RoP”!

Then again, I can be wrong (I hope I’m wrong in my little analysis), and I hope this thread does NOT attract moronic reactionist dhimmi trolls and reactionist muslim trolls?

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm

The military in France has been told NOT to wear their uniforms OFF BASE after the shootings.
This whole shooting situation is probably a act of islamic terrorism.

I do NOT believe for a second those soldiers were shot because of their religion as there was NO WAY to know their religion as they were wearing FRENCH ARMY UNIFORMS!

The one thing clear about them was their MILITARY status.

Remember, ISLAMISTS have declared war on the NATO allies and vowed to take it to the home countries of the members of NATO.

THIS may be a world wide plot…hit soldiers and hit the Jews anywhere in the world!

BY the way there have been several threats against Jewish centers and synagogues in Paris lately!

Alabama Pride on March 19, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Wow, first time a comment of mine was actually accepted through “moderation.” How exciting.

Honestly, this is ridiculous. I certainly never suggested anything about defamation, Sean, nor do I believe you understand the necessary requirements of a defamation suit. This aside, my point was that there was (and as far as I know, is) no indication that the gunman was a Muslim. I find it troubling that there are people like Debbie Schlussel that see no problem in waging accusations like murder against an entire religion. You say the “facts” are there, but such sweeping generalizations do no one good, and in my mind absolutely divert attention from the innocent victims whose lives were taken so horrifically this morning, as well as the person who carried out this vile ACT OF TERRORISM.

WHich reminds me. Sean, thanks for updating me on your distorted view of the world’s current events. To suggest that people who identify with the religion of Islam have carried out every single “atrocious terrorist attack worldwide” is preposterous, and that I have found myself debating this point with someone is truly a sign of the times. You can’t honestly believe that to be true? What about the Norway mass murders? Virginia Tech? Timothy McVeigh? Hello? Just a few notable terrorist attacks that stick out in my mind, none of which were carried out by Muslims.

Again, this is not some attempt to defend any atrocities or murders carried out by individuals purporting to be Muslim. I just found it dangerous to be jumping on Muslims and Islam when something horrific happens in our world.

mags on March 19, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Facial tattoos would likely be a Turkish Mulim although a caucasian with mental problems is also a possibility. In any event, as D said, the person would be praised by many in the world of Islam.

I know the school well where this happened. Some of my relatives have attended there. Especially disturbing is that one eye-witness said he singled out and took careful aim at the head of a child.

ex mossad on March 19, 2012 at 4:25 pm

As our pal “Skzion” normally says, “those who start their message with the “wow” is an utter imbecile”. Mags, as reader “John Galt” said a little earlier on today, Debbie is using “statistical analysis” in this article, she did NOT overtly said that a muslim did this, the sources in France are still investigating this crime, it might be terror-related. And here’s you’re quote between the lines buster:

“To suggest that people who identify with the religion of Islam have carried out every single “atrocious, terrorist attack worldwide” is preposterous,”

Spoken like a typical muslim-apologist dhimmi, first off Mags, to me IMO islam is NOT a real religion, it’s a theocractic-theology pretending to be a religion. Secondly when muslims do terrorist acts, majority of the time they yell/shout “allahu akbar” (in arabic it means god is good), and yes MOST terrorist acts are committed by muslims, at the sametime not all muslims are terrorist. Then you bring up Norway, guess what, Brevik is going to spend half of his adult life in jail for what he did, and I’m NOT making excuses for that jackass nor I’m not pardoning what he did, what he did was pure evil.

As for Virginia Tech, the shooter to was an imbecile and loser for doing that, I am not making excuses for that unhinged lunatic. As for Timothy McVeigh, did you know that he aligned himself with al-qeada (Debbie herself wrote an article about it a year ago on this blog) in Iraq prior to doing the Oklahoma City, OK bombing over 15 years ago. But don’t sit there and keep denying that muslims don’t do terrorist acts, atrocious acts, etc. in the name of their religion! So my current event views are NOT distorted as you claimed, I know what I’m talking about buster, you on the other hand are living in you’re own isolated world and being like the “Three Monkeys” of “See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil”!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 19, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Schlussel, do proof read what you write?

To wit: You wrote, “If you guess anything but Muslim, you haven’t been paying attention to what’s been going on in France.”

You also wrote in the same article: “Even if, this time, it’s not a Muslim,…”

Huh? That’s logical? Saying it could only be a muslim, then saying it may not be? LOL!!!!

FrenchKiss on March 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm

No, no, no. Let’s not rush to judgment. Let’s not convict a whole demographic segment without any evidence pertinent to this PARTICULAR outrage. But, when we get the evidence, when Khalil goes on al Arabiye, or its wholly owned subsidiary, the BBC, to boast of his “great accomplishment”, as history makes us 95% sure we will, let’s ACT on it.

ramon on March 19, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Also: not “including” children. PRIMARILY children. INCLUDING two siblings, one a toddler, and their father.

ramon on March 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Oh lighten up. Anyone with a brain would immediately think Muslim. Gere, I wonder why?

ex mossad on March 19, 2012 at 5:28 pm

That was to FrenchKiss and I meant Geee, not Gere.

ex mossad on March 19, 2012 at 5:32 pm

look at this beautiful picture of Miriam Monsonego killed in France.

Daniel on March 19, 2012 at 6:17 pm

According to Sky News the person who shot the victims was a neo-Nazi. But whether this is true or not, a message from me, a Muslim, RIP to the families of the victims inshAllah the attacker from either religion or ethnicity be brought to justice.

GG on March 19, 2012 at 6:48 pm

So, it’s being reported that the gun used today was the same gun used in other recent attacks. When I first heard that tidbit of info it seemed a little suspicious that bullets could have been recovered from dead or wounded victims, or other places at the crime scene, then compared against other bullets in such a short amount of time. It seems that Pox News and all the other leftist press have set the narrative. I guess that’s why people are posting here citing the ballistic “evidence” as proof that somehow the shooter is not moslem.

CornCoLeo on March 19, 2012 at 7:43 pm

The French outpouring of support for the families of the fallen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9154397/France-school-shooting-Four-dead-at-Ozar-Hatorah-school-in-Toulouse.html

May their dear souls RIP.

Eyes Wide Open on March 19, 2012 at 8:53 pm

…heard Savage on the radio today point out just the same thing.

Nick Fury on March 19, 2012 at 10:54 pm

In three earlier major conflicts, the enemy invaded France.

This time, the French invited them in….

(R.I.P, the latest victims)

Nir Leiu on March 19, 2012 at 11:35 pm

Disgusts me how ignorant and hateful people can be. This is just like the shooting in Norway when many assumed and declared “it must be a Muslim!’. It turned out to be a Christian terrorist!, yet because he was christian instead of muslim, he was said to be a ‘lone crazy nut’ instead of the terrorist he was.

Don’t you people remember all the Catholic Irish terrorists?. the Nazi’s weren’t Muslim either ya know.

greg on March 19, 2012 at 11:49 pm

To the four latest victims in France–RIP. Everything else that I want to said as already been said by Debbie and the other regulars here, including responses to the emotional trolls here.

JeffE on March 19, 2012 at 11:54 pm

I can guess why people feel comfortable with a Nazi. Dead evil doesn’t disturb people and you can dismiss the shooter as as a hateful crank.

If he’s Muslim, then he belongs to over a billion people with a similar set of beliefs. That means one has to confront Muslim anti-Semitism. People for various reasons want to ignore it and even to suppress it. Doing that won’t make it go away.

Regardless of the ultimate identity of the killer(s), its already a hate crime against Jews.

NormanF on March 20, 2012 at 3:22 am

Norman, Muslims are not anti-semitic, because we are semitic.

We aren’t anti-Jewish either, we are anti-zionism.

GG on March 20, 2012 at 6:17 am

“On Monday, the killer arrived and fled on a motorbike, following the same approach used in the two previous attacks. In those shootings, a man wearing a motorcycle helmet killed three French paratroopers and critically wounded another. The soldiers were all Arab or black, and appeared to have been targeted specifically, witnesses said.

“We know that it is the same person, the same arm that killed the soldiers, the children and a teacher,” Mr. Sarkozy said Monday night.”

While it SEEMS related, how can they KNOW this? Also, they are specifically leaving out the possibility that the soldiers were targeted by Muslims for the same reason why Muslims have targeted our soldiers in America. For example, in Arkansas, a Muslim shot 1 black Army private and 1 white one at an Army recruiting station. So, according to the Muslims, if you join the army, it doesn’t matter what race or religion you are. They see the Muslims in our armed forces as apostate Muslims.

In any event, they are guarding synagogues AND mosques in France now. But when was the last mosque to have a shooting incident? No answers to that question. Ah, political correctness …

Gerald on March 20, 2012 at 10:24 am

@Peter,

Not ALL Muslims are semitic, also not all Jews are Semitic either.

thats why the term anti-semitic is invalid and meaningless. Being semitic is a race thing, not a religous one. But my point was to prove that some Muslims are semitic. And Islam is a religion which does not prefer people according to their races.

GG on March 20, 2012 at 11:11 am

@Gerald, they are not linking the soldier shootings with Muslims because two soldiers of the three killed were Muslims. Also, they already know the man who did it, he was a former soldier in the French army but was suspended after he and some of his peers raised the Nazi flag somewhere.

Also a week ago a Mosque in Belgium was bombed and no one spoke about it.

GG on March 20, 2012 at 11:17 am

@greg – the shooting in Norway was perpetrated by a nut, but he was NOT a Christian nut. Get your facts straight.

There were Muslim Nazi divisions. Again, get your facts straight before spouting off.

Regarding the Catholic Irish terrorists – are you suggesting they had something to do with this? If we were discussing an attack in England or Ireland, I would be willing to entertain that option.
Not that I’m excusing anything they have done or will do, but note that the Catholic terrorists aren’t on a mission to kill or convert the entire world.

KerryB29 on March 20, 2012 at 11:30 am

GG:

1. Belgium is not France. So while that act of terrorist criminality is an outrage that should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, it is irrelevant to this case.

2. “they already know the man who did it, he was a former soldier in the French army but was suspended after he and some of his peers raised the Nazi flag somewhere”

That is ONLY A THEORY. Just like Mike Bloomberg’s THEORY that a bomb that was placed in the Times Square van could have been the work of Tea Party people protesting ObamaCare.

It is a game that they play. They float the POSSIBILITY that it could be someone else in order to ward off alleged Islamophobia, and then they arrest the Muslim. Now this may be one of the RARE instances where the terrorist was non-Muslim. But the police and the press follow the same PC game during the 99% of the cases when it isn’t.

Gerald on March 20, 2012 at 12:03 pm

I agree with you totally tthat it has to be a Muslim who did that. You know if these Algerians or other Moslems think that you speak Arabic they will ask you point blank; “Do you want a girl with you ” I was amazed a t the braziness of the question and the girl was beside him. I pretended that I do not have any money to get rid of him quickly. My daughter was with me with my grandson. She asked me; “What did he want” I told her he was begging for some money; what do I tell her???

GT. R. Scharoubim on March 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm

@KerryB29

The Norway shooter described himself as “100 % Christian “. Fact.

Greg on March 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm

I am heartbroken. Why are we still living in any of these countries. It’s past time for aliyah.

Naomi R. on March 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Chances are it was not a muslim.

M: HUH? Actually, chances are it was. DS

Mats on March 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm

This evil ne’er do well is at last exposed for what she is. From the shooting of defenceless victims, I pray she gets her due desserts and the boot. If faces say it all, she has certainly had an intravenous lemon juice injection.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117715/Baroness-Ashton-called-resign-likening-shooting-Toulouse-school-troubles-Palestinian-children-Gaza.html

Eyes Wide Open on March 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Funerals for four people in Israel Wednesday.

When people read about what their friends and family say about them, who in their right mind would kill them?

Then we learn the murderer or a possible accomplice, filmed the killings as though to relive them later. That’s depraved!

When it comes to human evil, words fail me. We think we have seen the worst of mankind. All we know is people who hate Jews that much to kill them – its a reminder for the rest of us it can be more than words.

And in the meantime, the surviving wife and children have to live with the sorrow. I know that intimate emotion all too well and so does Debbie Schlussel. Nothing will ever bring them back.

So we must remember for them and make sure the Jewish people are acquainted with the danger. The irony is they came home to Israel. One wishes with all one’s heart it had been under happier circumstances!

Zichrono Livrachah – may the memory of Rabbi Yonathan Sandler, his children Gavriel and Aryeh and Miriam Monsonego be for an eternal blessing and may G-d avenge them!

NormanF on March 20, 2012 at 11:26 pm

UPDATE:

After an intensive manhunt, French authorities detained a suspect with Al-Qaeda ties. No further details yet. Suspect is said to be 24 years old.

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=262745

Its certainly a break in the case. We’ll learn more in the coming hours and days.

NormanF on March 21, 2012 at 2:39 am

Norman F, thank you for your continued updates and comments on this terrible tragedy. Am sure Debbie’s followers will second that. The JP’s reporting on the character of the Rabbi Sandler moved me to tears, such a good decent human being. The least the French could do was send a military aircraft with the bodies to rest in Israel, Eternal home of the Jews.

Eyes Wide Open on March 21, 2012 at 3:01 am

SURPRISE not.
The France 24 network reported that the suspect in the Toulouse attacks is a French citizen, 24, of Algerian extraction who lives near the Ozar HaTorah school where four Jews were killed two days ago. The suspect stated that he belongs to the al-Qaeda terror group. (Ynet)

LH on March 21, 2012 at 3:35 am

Speaking personally, I’m very tired of the following:

1) Arabs (predominantly Muslims) claiming they can’t be antisemitic because they’re semites themselves…

2) Europeans embracing dead Jews…

Hans on March 21, 2012 at 5:33 am