“So, do you agree with me that Jason Whitlock would be relegated to the Jimmy ‘The Greek’ Snyder/Al Campanis dustbin of persona non grata, if he were White?”

Yes. I also hate double-standards. But sadly, it exists and needs to stop. Either a comment made is a firable offense or it is not. I think that it should not. Whitlock shouldn’t be fired, and neither should have Jimmy “The Greek” Snyder or Al Campanis. One can disagree with me on that, but which ever answer to that question one has, it needs to be applied across the board to people of all races, nationalities, religion, ethnicity, etc.

JeffE on February 14, 2012 at 12:13 am

Its black racism against Asians. Let’s call a spade a spade.

And blacks are jealous Jeremy Lin made it into the NBA without affirmative action or favoritism.

That I suspect is what really peeved Jason Whitlock and triggered his sexually tasteless remarks, which served to hide what he really doesn’t like about Lin: his talent.

Being good in bed has nothing to do with being a good person. Of course if Debbie Schlussel had said about a black guy had a big penis like Jimmy “The Greek” Snyder did, she would have been sent packing in a New York minute.

Yes, there’s a double standard about racist remarks and Whitlock kept his job for one reason and one reason only: his skin color. And in the world of liberal sports journalism or what passes for it, its the only standard that matters.

NormanF on February 14, 2012 at 12:38 am

Where has Debbie been in the last 3 years or so? sex talk and related items are what people talk,but this is the problem with political correctness,there is not a specific guideline to exactly know what is offensive to some and not others,it is not scientific therefore screw ups happenen where you d think shouldn t have and viceversa,but I ve met and talked to some blacks who are as or more racist than the KKK ever dreamed of,so this tweet by this man who until today had never heard his name,was small potatoes in his book.

Juan on February 14, 2012 at 1:10 am

“Of course if Debbie Schlussel had said about a black guy had a big penis like Jimmy “The Greek” Snyder did, she would have been sent packing in a New York minute.”

Norman, you remember exactly one year ago at this sametime when DS wrote two articles of “Lara Logan”, you remember what occurred from there, the far-left blogosphere on the net went into a frenzy over Ms. Schlussel’s writing, by taking DS’s words out of context and claiming that Debbie gloated over the rape of Lara Logan, in which the truth was that Debbie did NOT gloat and celebrate Ms. Logan’s rape, she (Debbie) only made a little reference on how left wing reporters are when their in foreign societies and also hostile environments, etc. And my guess is that more likely Media Matters was behing this BS on forwarding her two Lara Logan article(s) to all left wing blogs and some muslim websites (there were mainly unhinged far-left trolls along with their butt-plug muslim trolls who trolled here those two days and made complete asses of themselves) to come over here and troll.

And also, you all remember two years ago a CNN reporter for news in the middle east was fired (Octavia Nasr) for tweeting on Twitter and having too much sympathy for a dead jihadist who worked for hezbollah. The following day, CNN to their own credit fired Octavia Nasr (she’s a Maronite Lebanese-Christian) for her comment on apologizing for that dead islamofascist bum. Fox Sports should’ve atleast suspended Jason Whitlock for his little sentiment comment on twitter on what he said about NY Knicks player Jeremy Lin, but the double-standard has to stop, when you’re wrong you’re wrong and should be called out on it.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on February 14, 2012 at 1:22 am

Ummm…. I’m pretty sure Ronald Martin is black, and he did not keep his job.

dee on February 14, 2012 at 1:36 am

I would also guess that if Jeremy Lin is a Harvard grad, that during his college days, he had no problems getting the minimum GPA needed to be eligible to play. When I was in college, the headlines in the college papers was how the head coach had to beg the school to exempt his star players from that requirement.

Infidel on February 14, 2012 at 2:59 am

His godmother let him listen to Richard Pryor as a child? The curse-word-every-minute, vulgar Richard Pryor?

I suppose that explains a lot.

It is blatantly obvious that his “humour” was simply a backhanded knockdown intended to undercut a guy that is currently a big thing.

These blacks get their noses out of joint because there is such a fuss over a guy playing in “their” league and doing great at it.

Whites in the NBA get to deal with similar mistreatment and racism from the black majority. No wonder this asian guy gets it and gets it hard.

Know what’s hilarious? Reading the stories from reporters that are stunned about this whole success story. How could this guy be overlooked? How did he fly under the radar?

I’ll tell you how. Because he was asian. Period.

A similar reason guys like Jordy Nelson, Clay Matthews, and Wes Welker in the NFL go unrecruited into colleges and walk-on (Nelson, Matthews) or have a friend pull a favor to get them a lone scholarship offer (Welker) even though they were outstanding high-school athletes.

See, it’s okay for the scouts and leagues to be racist when choosing blacks in the NBA/NHL, and discriminating against white athletes merely because they’re white. It’s okay to stereotype whites as not being “fast” or “athletic”, even if the facts contradict that racist premise. So the big scouting firms don’t give them a fair shake, and the colleges all recruit by the books of the big scouting firms.

This is why a Lin happens as well in the NBA. The guy was never given any serious consideration by the NBA “experts”. He faced the same discriminatory racism that afflicts whites in that league. Namely, that he has to fight tooth and nail to even get a look, or he has to outperform the competition by leaps and bounds to garner any consideration. He wouldn’t even have been doing what he’s doing right now if not for injuries and desperation on the part of the Knicks.

Whitlock and Mayweather are guilty of moronic, juvenile statements and ought to just shut the hell up.

PitandPen on February 14, 2012 at 3:02 am

Debbie based on your description I should statistically have a small boy part. Please come over so we can defy stereotypes and you can live blog our inevitable spiritual communion. And not to worry about H. If you don’t love him I’ll bundle him up in a cozy sweater and leave him im his sleeping hut with his favorite toys at a local Chabad House. As for the tweet I’m sure Lin will have several million dollars soon to wipe all his tears away.

A1 on February 14, 2012 at 5:30 am

Politically correct comments and actions are often discrimination by other means. Also, if Jason Whitlock wants to discuss physical characteristics, he had best look in the mirror himself. He is about as sleek as an obese walrus. A woman would need to send him to a liposuction clinic for excess lard removal to find whatever he has to offer underneath. Did Jason really think that those strippers were looking at anything other than the load in his wallet?

The real point is that people who wish to get physically crude with other people had best look at themselves first. Quite often, they do not stack up to their opponent themselves.

Worry01 on February 14, 2012 at 5:58 am

Hmmm. How would this man know if Asian men have small penises? Personal experience? Perhaps the man is closeted.

Jonathan E. Grant on February 14, 2012 at 7:59 am

Blacks think they RUN sports cuz they have dominated in the past 40 years. I think too many White people allow Blacks to walk around with this superiority complex because they don’t want too classified a racist. It is peculiar that European or South American players don’t fear the Black athlete. Case in point Dirk Nowitski, Manu Ginobli, Pau Gasol, and Steve Nash (South Africa). Just look at the U.S. getting their ass kicked in the Olympics and World Championships throughout the 90s and early 00s. So Whitlock is a racist who feels no one should play ball unless he is Black. He can go to hell. Blacks also hated Tim Tebow because he got attention for winning without having a bad attitude.

CaliforniaScreaming on February 14, 2012 at 8:06 am

Mayweather has a big fight coming up in a few months with Manny Pacquiao, who is Asian, so that may be part of it.

As far as Whitlock, Lin certainly can’t compete with him in the stomach department, however else they do or don’t measure up.

Little Al on February 14, 2012 at 8:52 am

How does that knuckle dragger know that Lin has a small penis? Did Lin coat his tonsils with his special Asian sauce??

jessesharpton on February 14, 2012 at 9:22 am

I think partially its because of race, but I think its more due to the souce working for Fox. Fox Latin America posted a poll on FB asking ‘who readers think is responsible for the death of Christ: Pontius Pilate, The Jewish People or the High Priests.’–Fox apologized but no one was fired.

I don’t have the exact article, but they also talked about one of Pres. Obama’s recent multi-racial celebrity dinners (which ALL Presidents have). The article showed the pictures of the African-American guests only and referred to it as a ‘Dinner-Fashizzle’. Never saw a headline like that when Bush was in office!

Lee on February 14, 2012 at 11:13 am

If Whitlock is straight his jealousy of Lin is probably because Lin could get sex from a much larger number of white chicks than Whitlock could.

CornCoLeo on February 14, 2012 at 11:31 am

Hey Little Al last time I checked Mayweather punked out on the fight with Pacquiao so it’s off again. Anyway I agree with you Debbie about the reverse discrimination in pro sports. That this twit is able to keep his job is the height of political correctness stupidity. Seeing as how Rush Limbaugh and Hank Williams Jr were given the ax when one spoke the truth and the other one was making a comparison. Blacks sports columnists, actors, talk show hosts etc feel that they can say anything and not get called on it. Well I’m calling you out Whitlesslock as a racist jackenape. And as for that moron Mayweather quit ducking Pacquiao already. You’re making yourself look even more like a douche. On a side note. Does anyone know if the Knicks won against the lunkhead Lakers because I can’t stand that toad Kobe Bryant. I’m pretty sure that Whitlock likes him though. Jerks of a feather flock together.

ken b on February 14, 2012 at 11:40 am

Right on Debbie! Hey Skunky, I love your new profile pic!!

Hollywood on February 14, 2012 at 12:25 pm

I once heard a black activist friend say that whites suffer from APE (I think you can figure out this acronym). So this is nothing new. Is larger equipment better? well some like pick up trucks, and some are attracted to sport cars. An “Italian stallion” friend of mine told me he received complaints for being too big. Personally I would not mind a couple of more inches here and there however, all in all it is a shallow subject and considering the size of the Asian population there is apparently no problem.
A major turnoff for any man are the women who focus on the size of his wallet.

Ron Wolf on February 14, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Black or White, Small or Big, the question is: How does he know? Judging by his picture, his “man boobs” look to bigger than any Asian’s, big or small.

Maybe now “minority” is the new “white” as far as getting away with things.

BroMan on February 14, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Big, small, skinny, fat, smart, stupid…what everyone responding here is that there is Freedom of Speech in the U.S. even though some is called racist, hate, sexist, etc. However, this is Debbie’s site and she can operate it anyway she wishes which usually means there is a broad tolerance for most comments.

However, there is something brewing in the world that just may make you appreciate the freedoms recognized and formalized by the Founders. Please note the LINK:

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18930.xml

Yes, there are numerous “Dufi” sports guys, reporters, announcers, and commentors who say really inane and degrading things, but are they arrested for doing so?

Remember, government does not give us rights…we already have them…and Freedom of Speech is one of those Rights.

DEBBIE…..HAPPY VALENTINE’S DAY TO YOU!

Dennis on February 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm

About the only thing I’m disappointed about is Whitlock apologizing. He has been saying these sort of things for years, it’s part of his shtick. ESPN gave him the boot for not towing the line, now why does he tuck tail and apologize?

Of course there’s a double standard. Guys like Whitlock and Charles Barkley say this all the time. The media lets them have a pass because they are dumb liberals with white guilt and because Whitlock and Barkley say what they’d really like to say but they know they’d get fired.

Debbie nailed why Linsanity is running wild. Yes, he’s Asian, but he came from nowhere to be a star.

Why are black athletes and black columnists like Whitlock so upset? Because they consider the NBA “their” sport. Most great players are black, they have black coaches. The NFL has majority black players, but the great QBs are usually white. Many in the NBA still don’t want to give Larry Bird his due because of his race.

Jeff_W on February 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Jason Whitlock, Foxsports, and ESPN deserve to be censored the way the press was censored in the 1860’s.

Confederate South on February 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm

The media holds people and countries that are perceived to be the ones in power to a higher standard of behavior. For example, Jessie Jackson’s Hymie-town comment has been long forgotten while Mel Gibson’s anti-Semitic rage has not.

Listen to Anderson Cooper or anyone else at CNN when they report about violence, you’ll only hear the word atrocities in reference to those currently holding the upper hand. The opposition to those in power are victims, rebels, freedom fighters and all around good citizens.

Jay on February 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Eh, what a lard ass. I guess when your only contribution to civilization is your penis that’s pretty much all you can say.

Here’s some truth for ya, the average adult black person has the IQ of a twelve year-old white kid. Deal with it.

Lisa B on February 14, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Oh, and don’t forget, Jews are supposed to have small penises too. My boyfriend destroys that myth.

Lisa B on February 14, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Mayweather is running scared. Can’t wait til Manny Pacquiao knocks his ass out!

Lisa B on February 14, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Actually, Jews statistically have bigger penises AND better brains. It’s entirely win-win.

luagha on February 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

NormanF said: “And blacks are jealous Jeremy Lin made it into the NBA without affirmative action or favoritism.”

Huh??? Here we go again. One Black guy does/says something stupid and people make these grand generalizations about ALL Black people. Most Black folks I know are excited about Jeremy Lin (including his teammates!), and Spike Lee, a lifelong Knick fan, is unabashedly praising Mr. Lin.

NormanF, as hard as it may be for you to believe, Jason Whitlock was writing his own tweet and his own opinion, and NOT speaking on behalf of Black America, anymore than any White sports columnist speaks on behalf of all of White America…

D. O'Nay on February 14, 2012 at 4:38 pm

TMI on your second post, Lisa B.

Jeff_W on February 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Blacks also hated Tim Tebow because he got attention for winning without having a bad attitude.
– CaliforniaScreaming

Hated Tim Tebow??? What Black people are you talking about, CS??? Many Black people, especially those of us who are Christian, are fans of Tim Tebow. And because a whole lot of us can relate to going into situations where not much is expected of you but you have to make the best out of what you’ve got and let God handle the rest.

D. O'Nay on February 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm

“Here’s some truth for ya, the average adult black person has the IQ of a twelve year-old white kid. Deal with it”.
-Lisa B

Lisa B, your Nazi party uniform and honorary Stormfront membership is waiting for you on aisle three. Let’s get this clear…JASON WHITLOCK wrote something stupid and way out of line. HE did this on his own, not as a representative of some nonexistent monolithic Black America. So can we stop with the Mein Kampf rhetoric?

D. O'Nay on February 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm

This story doesn’t seem like a big deal but it is. Whitlock can make racial insults and keep his job. Obama can sit in a black-supremacist “church” for decades and become president. Racism on the part of blacks isn’t just ignored, excused or dismissed, it is rewarded.

CornCoLeo on February 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm

I don’t know about that, CornCoLeo. As I look at various sites over the Web, Jason Whitlock isn’t being “rewarded” at all, or ignored, or excused. His reputation is permanently damaged. He can no longer write on racism in sports without sounding like a hypocrite. I do agree there is a double standard…but there is still a price to pay for ignorance. As a Black person, if I said a blatantly racist statement on my job, I might keep my job, but my effectiveness on the job will be hindered, my professional reputation in tatters, and my relationships with my co-workers would be damaged. Nothing would be the same. God is not mocked…we do sow what we reap.

D. O'Nay on February 14, 2012 at 5:40 pm

The idea that minorities who violate the PC rule don’t get fired is myth. Rick Sanchez was fired immediately for stating (truthfully, though in a terribly articulated fashion because he was in the middle of a hostile interview) that Jon Stewart didn’t experience any bigotry in Hollywood because of the disproportionate influence of liberal Jews in Hollywood who look out for each other (a fact related by the conservative Ben Shapiro, who stated that he pretended to be a secular liberal in order to get the Hollywood crowd to let their guard down so that they would say things that they would never knowingly say to a conservative or a member of the goyim). Further, Isaiah Washington was fired from Grey’s Anatomy for so-called homophobia, and that very good actor and rising star (and U.S. Air Force veteran) hasn’t been able to get work in Hollywood since. So, the idea that minorities are totally immune to political correctness is a myth. It is also a myth that EVERY white person who transgresses political correctness gets fired. For example, not a thing happened to Billy Packer when he called Allen Iverson a monkey, or when he used a “homophobic” slur. Another example: Kelly Tilghman was given a two weeks paid vacation – excuse me – “suspended” for saying that Tiger Woods should be taken out back and lynched. This is not to say that a double standard does not exist AT ALL, but exaggerating its existence is the same sort of crying wolf that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton indulge in. And yes, that is precisely why Fox Sports can’t fire Whitlock. Fox Sports is part of, well, Fox! They can’t very well fire a black sports columnist for tweeting something racist in his private time when the white Fox News commentators drop racist bombs on air all the time. For example Glenn Beck: pretending to be Malia Obama: “Why do you hate black people so much daddy?” Pretending to be Barack Obama: “Because I am half-white, honey.” Were Fox to fire a black columnist for doing in private what their white TV and radio hosts do on air all the time, they’d get roasted, and they would have absolutely no defense for it.

That being said, I have to acknowledge that Jeremy Lin’s success is disturbing to blacks who participate in a certain mindset. For said blacks, notions of superiority in certain areas (sports – especially basketball – and sexuality) are very important to their psyche. (Watch pretty much any rap video or black movie … it will embrace one, the other both.) And these notions of superiority are worn as a shield or mask to paper over the shame of various other shortcomings in the black community. And yes, blacks are aware of other minority groups. Some blacks say that the Asian community should be emulated. Other blacks say “well, the Asians may dominate the universities and the job market, but we have the NBA and are better with the ladies!” I THOUGHT that Jason Whitlock was in the former group, especially when Whitlock was doing such things as point out that Patriots and Colts were the best teams in the NFL because they had the most white players (for example). But it turns out that the fellow was a fraud: he is as threatened by an Asian succeeding on “his turf” as the urban low-achieving blacks that he has gained much wealth and status by criticizing. (By the way, similar to Jalen Rose and Grant Hill, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. also dislikes middle class blacks like Donovan McNabb, who was the target of the bizarre rant by Rush Limbaugh for reasons that I still do not understand. So, Mayweather is just a bigger crank. Consider him to be a black Glenn Beck I guess …)

I got furious with Jason Whitlock and stopped following him when he joined the New York Times and their ilk in criticizing Augusta National spokesman Billy Payne when he criticized Tiger Woods. Now though I disagreed with Payne singling out Woods when he is FAR from the first PGA star to be sexually immoral (a fact that Ms. Schlussel herself stated), Whitlock claimed that Augusta National’s segregationist policies OF MORE THAN THIRTY YEARS AGO removed their moral authority to criticize Tiger Woods today. Of course, it was nonsense. The fellow was just upset that a conservative, rich southern white guy was criticizing a “black” celebrity (I use quotes because I maintain that Woods should not be considered black because he is actually 1/2 Asian, and even the other 1/2 is split between Caucasian, Native American and black). That was when I found out that the fellow was a total fraud on race issues and haven’t paid him any attention since (I never did think much of his ability as a sportswriter in the first place … I was only reading him for his social commentary).

The guy really ought to lay aside the charade and just go ahead and join Bryant Gumbel, Bob Herbert, Jemele Hill and other agitators. But he won’t, because the second that he does that, he is out of a job (Gumbel may be a Marxist and a despicable human being, but he IS a good and knowledgeable journalist and Whitlock is nowhere near his equal) and will have to actually go out and work for a living.

Gerald on February 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Howard Stern is about the same height as the average NBA player, is obviously not Asian, and for the last 25 years, has made a living joking about his own shortcomings in this department.

Irving on February 14, 2012 at 7:10 pm

Nazi? Stormfront?

Does the truth hurt you that bad? The average white IQ is 100. The average black IQ is 85. For reference, border-line mental retardation is about 75. Gettin’ the picture here O Nay? Need some proof from a reputable medical site? check it out

Actually, the proof is “in the pudding” name the civilizational achievements of Africans and their descendants. Compare that with Asians or any other group.

Uh huh, ’nuff said.

Lisa B on February 14, 2012 at 8:40 pm

@Skunky:

Of course, I despise President Obama. And that is all that I will say regarding him lest I transgress the commandments in my Bible concerning respecting our civil leaders. So, this is not some attempt to defend him or any of his actions or policies.

With that out of the way … in what context is mocking a 10 year old girl’s lineage (yes, by mocking her father’s lineage, you are also mocking her lineage) anything other than an outrage? But as you asked for the context, I will provide it: the BP oil spill. Obama was under criticism for failing to stop the oil leak, and – as politicians of all stripes are wont to do – used his child as a political prop to blunt the criticism. (Speaking of using children as political props, Sean Hannity – for whom my estimation is about the same as Obama’s – proclaims to be so horrified that Obama took Malia and Sasha to Jeremiah Wright’s church. Right … but what about all of the segregated churches – and schools and everything else mind you – that Hannity’s own white friends and relatives took their kids to when he was growing up in Alabama in the 60s and 70s? Those kids turned out ok, right? Or if they didn’t, I have never heard Hannity say so. P.S. Hannity used his own daughter as a prop too by regularly claiming that he wasn’t a racist because he let his daughter watch the “Clifford The Big Red Dog” cartoon, which has a black character on it. Seriously.)

So, Beck CLAIMED to have done so in order to attack Obama for using his daughter as a political prop. Which is fine in general terms. The problem is that the BP oil spill was not a race issue: race had nothing to do with it. And Obama didn’t attempt to make it a racial issue, play the race card or anything like that. It was Beck and Beck alone who did so, and did it in one of the most vile, despicable ways possible. Add that to Beck’s claim (also on Fox News) that Obama hates white people (which is a thoroughly ridiculous claim that fails to take in account Obama’s personal history or circle of friends and associates, facts of Obama’s background that Beck well knows … and Barack Obama’s “church” is irrelevant … Obama joined that church to advance his political career, which is precisely the same reason why Ronald Reagan kicked off his 1980 presidential campaign in the city where Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were lynched) and Beck has as many racial issues and hangups as Whitlock and Mayweather do. And keep in mind: Fox never fired Beck. Beck left on his own. (CNN never fired Beck either. Beck could still be at either Fox or CNN if he wished.)

But the fact that they hire loons like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity – and oh yes, the joint is run by Roger Ailes, who was responsible for some pretty vile stuff of his own in media and politics back in the day – makes their firing Whitlock over this impossible.

Gerald on February 14, 2012 at 10:16 pm

@CornCoLeo:

“This story doesn’t seem like a big deal but it is.”

Yeah, sure buddy.

“Whitlock can make racial insults and keep his job.”

So can the guys on Fox News. And the guys on talk radio. And the guys who write for the Washington Times, New York Post, etc. etc. etc.

“Obama can sit in a black-supremacist “church” for decades and become president.”

So did the scores of white politicians who grew up in the segregated south (and midwest and lost of other places that had de facto and de jure segregation, including churches, many of which first began allowing blacks to join in the 1980s).

“Racism on the part of blacks isn’t just ignored, excused or dismissed, it is rewarded.”

No, some conservatives merely use black racism as an excuse to justify their own racism. The comments on this very blog are evidence of this.

Gerald on February 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm

What have YOU achieved, Lisa B??? Again, Jason Whitlock made that dumb statement, not Black people as a whole. Yet you use his stupidity as an opportunity to put forth your agenda of hatred. Yes, Nazi is right because the Third Reich used the same “scientific racism” that you espouse to justify the extermination of those they deemed inferior. And there can NEVER be ’nuff said about what they did and what can result from your way of thinking.

D. O'Nay on February 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Lisa B:

You are indulging in the typical white supremacist fallacy of treating whites and Asians as monolithic. Western Europeans have made a lot of contributions to civilization, but eastern Europeans not so much. Don’t take my word for it, but rather the statements of western Europeans until about 100 years ago. (The concept of a cohesive, white race is a relatively new invention. In ages prior … well let us just consider that the word “slave” derived from the Slavic peoples and leave it at that.)

And not just whites. Plenty of Asian tribes and nations – most in fact – have not contributed a thing to high culture. Racialists like yourself give all Asians credit for accomplishments of Japanese and SOME Chinese (yes, that is correct, not all Chinese ethnic groups are high achievers) but it isn’t true. And even there, you are relying on a limited definition of Asian/Oriental; not taking into account such DEFINITELY ORIENTAL people such as those from Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

And even amongst Asian achievers … what did India accomplish before its contact with the west (i.e. colonialism and thereafter)? A mere 300 years ago it would have been difficult to find a more backwards place on the planet. I guess India’s IQ rose with colonialism? Even if so, it was not uniform. Like China, not all of India’s tribal and ethnic groups show the same level of achievement.

And while we are at it, can you explain why the contributions of blacks who emigrate to America from Africa and the Caribbean outstrips that of native-born blacks? (For instance, most of the blacks in Ivy League schools are the progeny of such immigrants.) Proclaiming I.Q. as the reason is problematic, for American-born blacks are for the most part miscegenated with whites.

Face it lady: racialism is a junk science. Too much variations within the racial groups. Even amongst Jews – which I suppose is more of an ethnic group than a race – you have the differences (in achievement and other metrics) between the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim. Amazing: 4 million Sephardim in the world, and virtually none of them are represented among Jewish leadership in Israel, America or Europe. Is I.Q. the reason for that also? Yep.

I am waiting to see you trash Sephardic Jews on a Jewish blog. But you won’t do it. Either call Sephardic Jews genetically deficient on this Jewish blog as you did blacks, or acknowledge racialism to be a bunk pseudo-science along the lines of alchemy. Here’s betting that you don’t have the intellectual honesty, let alone integrity, to do either.

Gerald on February 14, 2012 at 10:39 pm

When I said “Yep” above, I meant to say “Yep or nope.” Trust me, I have nothing against the Sephardim. Only Lisa B does. Or at least she will have to in order to be consistent. Which she won’t be.

Gerald on February 14, 2012 at 10:43 pm

Hahaha

Sorry, I can’t help but laugh at everything that’s being read into what I’ve said.

O Nay keeps saying I’m judging all blacks by the actions of a few but based on my observations blacks are the champions of doing just that. How’s it feel now when the condom, er, shoe is on the other foot?

IQ and achievement are established scientific fact. You have the entire internet at your disposal. Use it. In the mean time just keep chanting the mantra, “We’re all the same… we’re all the same…”

Lisa B on February 15, 2012 at 6:43 am

It’s also amusing that you don’t have a clue about my own ethnicity or race yet you’ve made alot of assumptions about that already based on your own preconditioned beliefs.

I don’t have the time or inclination to give book-length answers to address your scientific deficiency. As I said, use the internet. Seek and you shall find.

Lisa B on February 15, 2012 at 6:52 am

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQs on the planet. I’ll leave you with that. Deal with it.

Lisa B on February 15, 2012 at 7:03 am

Unfortunately Lisa B., I do have to deal with attitudes like yours every day because of the color of my skin, so “dealing with it” is just another day at the office.

On a positive note to the non-Lisa B’s, Jeremy Lin hit a buzzer beater last night, do it’s good to see another young man of strong Christian faith continue to light it up! Lin is the kind of point guard that so many NBA teams have been missing….and he knows when to dish and when to put it up. I wasn’t a Knicks fan before, but my kids and I are watching them now (and I’ll be slipping hints to my kids that Lin went to Harvard!)

D O'Nay on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 am

ENOUGH ALREADY.

http://sociology.about.com/od/Research/a/Deductive-Reasoning-Versus-Inductive-Reasoning.htm

Please formulate the arguments in a rational method and keep the personal insults out of the discussion for those of us who are weary of them. Thank you.

Dennis on February 15, 2012 at 9:42 am

Also, please research the definition of each of the following words: BIAS, BIGOTRY, DISCRIMINATION, PREJUDICE, RACISM.

Thanks.

Dennis on February 15, 2012 at 9:44 am

Now here’s a funny comparison. Lisa says the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jewish people is 120. George W. Bush had an IQ of around 120, and according to many people on the Left, including presumably a lot of Jewish people descended from Ashkenazim, he was the least intelligent President we ever had.

Our entire educational system has been watered down because of the IQ controversy. We’ve gone from problem solving and real thinking to rote memorization and being told what to think and do cookbook style in virually every profession. They used to pretend that the SAT and LSAT and GRE were not IQ tests. Now there are numerous sites to convert your scores to IQ.

Stop The Game on February 15, 2012 at 10:29 am

Wow, all up in here! Everyone makes very strong arguments although some, like Lisa B., are based on stereotypes, so without getting into statistics or social strata analyses, and I know no one here has done any scientific research into the phenomenon, I will say this: There is Racism in the United States, be it White or Black or whatever, it is here. The causes or misconceptions upon which it is based may differ. Now, how I know this, because I have experienced it.

Racism today is not the overt, state sanctioned type of the past, it is now the covert, subtle type, stuff that’s said in the back room “amongst friends” type. Even some of the “Whites’ on this blog that support the Asians as a success, refuse to face the fact that they were some of the most discriminated against in this country. Most all minorities that came to this country were abused and treated harshly by the establishment. There are stories some bigots tell about their grandparents who came to this country and “made it”. They also don’t say that a lot of them were Caucasian and some already spoke English, so they fit in. Anyone of a diffrent color was not treated the same and were not given the same opportunities based on their skin color.

That is still going on today, anytime a “minority” is a success in whatever field, business, sport, school, it is immediately assumed that they got there because of some sort of “quota” or because they are only a minority and given preferential treatment. When we succeed based on White criteria, we are viewed with contempt, as if we didn’t deserve it; when we fail it is because our IQ is not high enough, we lazy, or just aren’t qualified; “didn’t pass the test” is a common defense used to not promote a minority. Yet when Whites fail, IQ is not high enough, didn’t pass the test, didn’t work hard enough, it is because a “minority” was chosen over them because of the “quota”.

We didn’t ask for preferential treatment or to be part of a quota; we asked for equal opportunity. We didn’t make the laws neither, ya’ did.

Lisa B., I believe you a sister, Black, that hate yourself
because of what society says you should be and cannot achieve it. Or some “minority” along the way was better than you in something, and you got passed over, feel disenfranchised. Either way it is not good for you. Live and let live.

BroMan on February 15, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQs on the planet. I’ll leave you with that. Deal with it.

Lisa B on February 15, 2012 at 7:03 am

And, unfortunately for our Jewish brothers and sisters, very high rates of genetic disorders.

Jewish people are from the Middle East, no? The Middle East is on the continent of Africa. Is the difference the Northern European lifestyle or the fact that some converted to Judaism?
I’d like to know. It is said that Hitler may have been part Jewish himself.

A post-Valentine verse:Love is not proud but humble (1 COR. 13:4-5)

Jesus, the greatest Jew, said, ” For anyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted”

Ponder this today Lisa B.

BroMan on February 15, 2012 at 12:36 pm