This also represents different and unequal treatment based upon one’s religion. Non-Muslim prisoners have to suffer for the sake of accomodating Muslim prayers. Imagine if Roman Catholics or Orthodox Jews even thought about demanding such accomodations to their religious practices? Also, part of being in jail is being deprived of some of the comforts of the outside world, except for Muslims apparently. If you go to some Muslim countries, you will get a Halal diet in jail. But, it will be more akin to rice, potatoes, or beans rather than the more expensive fare served to Muslim prisoners in the U.K.

Worry01 on January 23, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Here is my question on what will happen here stateside and if Moooooslims will get special-treatment in regard to Obamacare health-plans.

What happens when a Moooslim wants to purchase a gubmint approved health insurance plan that provides sterilization, contraception and abortion pills? Are they gonna get a special exemption because the Catholic workers are NOT. They have a year to figure out how to go against their religious beliefs. Will Mooooslims just be given a special exemption? I assume the fake devout Moooooslims will not be happy with those three variables.

I’m tired of this sick and illegitimate religion messing up lives all over the world. It is just disgusting. Who would have thought this crap would happen 10-going on 11-years after 9/11???

Prolly those like DS who knew all about Islam years before Americans started to pay attention.

Gotta get Obama out of office. If not get ready for le deluge.

Skunky on January 23, 2012 at 6:32 pm

They’re Muslim and entitled to special treatment.

We’re already dhimmis whether we like or not.

Ad its not going to change appreciably in the future whether in the UK or sometime on these shores.

Count on it!

NormanF on January 23, 2012 at 6:51 pm

If they are such fervent followers of Islam, why are they in jail? Or did they find “religion” while in prison?

Mitch on January 23, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Apparently, there has been a recent courtroom battle won against these jerks.

Debbie, it’s worse than you think, though, already. If you remember, I used to be a prison shrink. Well, here’s some news: Islam is already growing by leaps and bounds in American prisons, and was doing so even in the 1990s.

Occam's Tool on January 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm

Muhammad was a criminal. It makes sense.

burt on January 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm

It was a constant war when I was a Chaplain at a USP. It was almost impossible to assure fair access to the Chapel for all of the religious groups. The Muslims dominated. The Operations Lt. told me “let’s face it Chaplain, the Chapel is Muslim turf”. Even when we had Protestant services the Muslims would come in to conduct unsupervised prayer- and I would not leave them unsupervised, so services would be delayed until I could arrange for a move to get rid of them. Ramadan was a nightmare- they intimidated staff to get special food. When I tried to stop an additional prayer service late at night (that was not practiced in other prisons) the Warden told me “I’ll back you, Chaplain, but if a staff member is hurt or killed, it will be on you.” When I monitored classes on the monitoring equipment the vile teaching of Radicals was common (we had an Algerian radical with a life sentence who did the teaching). I would report it, and things would moderate for a short time and then heat up again.

EDS on January 23, 2012 at 11:07 pm

Who woulda thought; 10 years after 9-11, You woulda thought Americans would have ran every muz outta town on a rail. Made it so uncomfortable to stay here or bring the rest of yer relatives here. But; it’s just the opposite. pandering, bowing, bending over backwards, us learning their customs so as not to offend them. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

sal on January 24, 2012 at 9:53 am

Why don’t they just have their prayer rugs in their cells? And if they need someone to call the prayer, record it, and let them play it in their cells.

As for the food for after the daylight fast, they can have rice and beans and the like, after sundown. If it’s cooled down, it’s still edible and nutritious. Why should they get better fare?

Michelle on January 24, 2012 at 11:23 am

It already IS happening here, but with the black muslims. The Wisconsin prison system eliminated all pork products in their prisons years ago due to the bitching of the muslim inmates. Also, some of these “devout” types try to get their regular meals along with the ramadan meal. If the guards don’t catch it, they get over on the system. If the guards do catch it, there is no punishment. Not very dedicated practitioners are they?

Tommy T on January 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

As someone who worked with the DOJ and the Federal Bureau of Prisons, I’m also quite familiar with the demands of the “prison holy”. It’s the typical situation that those who are feared will be violent are the ones capitulated to… i.e., Caucasions were rarely granted “special” privileges, because they have little recent history of violent anti-prison rioting. Statement of fact, not racism.

A prison chaplain friend told me that religion is a crutch by the masses to “get over”, i.e. get whatever helps pass the time, be it extra privileges of some sort and/or “inner peace”, and the religiosity of the inmate rarely follows him home, except when it is believed to be convenient for purposes of parole boards, etc.

The federal system has what is called “common faire”. This is a food program designed to accommodate all the various religions’ food restrictions/requirements. Muslims rarely partook of the program for religious purposes… most inmates on the CF program got on there because they believed the CF food was “healthier” and would allow them access to fruits and vegetables not available to the rest of the inmates. CF participants were not supposed to take anything but a CF meal, and were supposed to be removed from the program if caught cheating, but of course cheating was rampant– especially when the mainline was serving chicken or ribs, and the CF meal was beans and cottage cheese.

And it seemed like ramadan occurred more than once /year– do different sects calling themselves muslims observe different calendars?

The most amusing was the so-called “Nation of islam”, who were derisively referred to by other inmates as the “nation of hoodlums”. They actually wore the top button buttoned and the little red bow tie to “services” as religious requirements, and of course posted an inmate goon at the door of the chapel room who would stand there with arms folded and scowl at all who passed near… I supposed that was a religious requirement too… there was this one white guy who actually hung out with the NOI and attended their services… you can imagine what he was called by others… but never to his face of course, cause his “homeys” had his back– yes, the muslims (especially black ones) were considered the most likely to be dangerously violent with little provocation, so most steered clear of them. And that’s how it works- a few violent outbursts, and then just intimidation alone works to get them what they want.

SDP on January 24, 2012 at 3:54 pm

And of course it’s no surprise that islam is a “religion” that appeals to the lowest/most ignorant/least intelligent sectors of society… it gives them permission from “allah” to do as they wish– they can beat, steal, rape, and even murder, in the name of religion. Is anyone really surprised that so many black inmates choose to become “muslims” in prison? Again, not meant as racism, but a statement of statistical/actual fact.

SDP on January 24, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Keeping it real or keeping it Muslim is just pure disgusting. So these guys want to seem tough and they want to get Muzzie like that. Lord help us when our children convert to islam.

CaliforniaScreaming on January 24, 2012 at 6:39 pm

So tired of the political correctness, in Britain especially. I wonder if the nonimmigrant, average British citizen knows about this situation, whether they would agree that it is unfair, or if they are so cowed by the muslims that they actually think this is reasonable.

Jackie53 on January 24, 2012 at 9:12 pm