The Liberal media is the voice of the enemy. Their insanity and lies are unrelenting. I loathe Liberals. Maybe we need a cultural civil war. The Sane against the Insane Left.

FreethinkerNY on February 15, 2007 at 2:06 pm

I find it ironic that someone that goes by the name “FreeThinker” is so opposed to exploring any idea that doesn’t go along with his/her ideas. The fact is, more things happened as a result of 9-11 besides the attacks. Why do you, and so many others like you, have such a problem with a different side being told?
The world is not Black and White, even if you think it is.

D*Rek on February 15, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Let’s start the cultural war with a good old fashioned book burning! We can burn all books written by Muslims that don’t renounce Islam, all mindless chick lit, all sports biographies, all Hollywood biographies and all children’s books written by celebrities. We can even throw in some Harry Potter just to please the real nutters.

LoveAManInAUniform on February 15, 2007 at 3:52 pm

Very interesting catch. More difficult than book burning is to read and see through such books, and to convince your reading public that they are dangerous.

Jeremiah on February 15, 2007 at 4:39 pm

DReck: I call myself Freethinker because I believe in the cause of intellectual freedom. What different side is there? The Left that is totalitarian in nature? The Islamists who attend demonstrations holding signs saying, “To Hell With Freedom? and “Democracy Go To Hell?” Freedom itself is a black and white thing. Either you believe in it and practice it or you don’t. What different side are you talking about anyway? I am a free thinker because for years I’ve listened to the stupid drivel that pours from Leftist lips. I know their mindset inside and out. I used to be a Radical Leftist and antiwar activist in the 1960’s and 70’s. Like the great David Horowitz, I came to realize that the Left is a Big Lie, filled with non-free thinking lemmings who mindlessly believe every piece of Leftist dogma-nure that they are fed.

FreethinkerNY on February 15, 2007 at 6:44 pm

So basically you traded one extreme for the other? To be a true “Free Thinker” you need to abandon preconcieved notions of what you think one side or the other is.
Saying that the Liberal Media is the voice of the enemy is a blanket, ill concived statement. And your statement about the Left being filled with “non-free thinking lemmings” is laughable, given that there are just as many “non-free thinking lemmings” on the other side as well. The reality is, the vast majority of people (on both sides) are too ignorant to think for themselves, so they follow whatever their favorite preacher, news channel, or talk show host says.
If you really want to be a free thinker, drop the inflamatory blanket statement and start using your brain to put forth your argument. Because every time you resort to childish name calling, most rational people dismiss you as an insignifigant person who adds nothing to the debate.

D*Rek on February 15, 2007 at 8:08 pm

In my opinion, the picture on the cover of “Once in a Promsed Land” is NOT a picture with the shadow of a 9/11 plane. The the shadow shows the engine placement on the tail like the MD-80. The 9/11 planes were Boeing 757s or 767s which have both engines under the wings.
WELL, YOU’D NEED TO TAKE THAT UP WITH THE ARTIST WHO MADE THE COVER B/C IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE A PLANE ABOUT TO GO INTO ONE OF THE WTC TOWERS.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

WillPower on February 15, 2007 at 9:49 pm

Thanks Debbie,
Why don’t I find it surprising that they would use a phony cover picture.

WillPower on February 15, 2007 at 10:11 pm

DRek: You still haven’t specifically stated what you mean by “The fact is, more things happened as a result of 9-11 besides the attacks. Why do you, and so many others like you, have such a problem with a different side being told?” You say a lot without saying what your point is. What
“different side being told” are you talking about? Also, I don’t have preconceived notions. I base my opinions on what the Left says and does. Why don’t you state your opinion of what Debbie said about USA Today instead of playing games about my views?

FreethinkerNY on February 15, 2007 at 10:51 pm

My posts were an observation of the majority of the posts i’ve found on this site. Whenever there is a point of contention (in this case it’s the fact that Muslims did face hardships in this country after 9-11), there isn’t a debate, there is just childish name calling.
Instead of there being a discussion on the ripple effects of 9-11, the counter arguments were “Give me a Break!” and “The Liberal media is the voice of the enemy”.
And on a personal note, it’s good to know you don’t have preconceived notions. However, that is not reflected in your original post.

D*Rek on February 15, 2007 at 11:29 pm

Given what happened on 9/11, this country was remarkably tolerant to both citizens and non-citizens alike who are of Middle Eastern decent and/or believers in Islam. Although most people realistically expected that there would be some level of street violence as a result, I don’t remember there being very much. If there was, you can be sure CAIR would have documented it, and they haven’t. Instead CAIR just lies and calls everyone Islamophic.

JSobieski on February 16, 2007 at 12:02 am

JSobieski is correct. The American people were extremely tolerant towards middle easterners in this country after 9/11. I live in an area where there are Muslims who own grocery stores, restaurants and other businesses. Muslims in Hajibs walk the streets every day in absolute safety. To my knowledge there were no attacks on their businesses or persons. On 9/11, I went into a local grocery store owned by Muslims and it seemed like business as usual. I saw no one trying to blame them for the Trade Center attacks. From where I live I could see the smoke and flames coming from the World Trade Center. Hundreds of people from my borough of NYC died there. I have friends who worked there and got out alive. I never heard of one attack against Muslims or people who appear to be middle-eastern. The people of Staten Island showed tremendous restraint considering their anger and pain at the loss of their friends and loved ones. What would have happened if the shoe were on the other foot, and a group of Christians had flown planes full of Muslims into the heart of Mecca? What would Muslims have done to Americans visiting or living in their societies?

FreethinkerNY on February 16, 2007 at 12:59 pm