Oh yeah just like o’bummer, anything he says will have an expiration date. Candle in the wind, no principles. Talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk

jake49 on May 25, 2011 at 4:17 pm

Obviously a Machiavellian ploy to get elected POTUS, and then become another R. Reagan…but then again…

“We cannot afford to differ on the question of honesty if we expect our republic permanently to endure. Honesty is not so much a credit as an absolute prerequisite to efficient service to the public. Unless a man is honest, we have no right to keep him in public life; it matters not how brilliant his capacity.” –Theodore Roosevelt

Dr Dale on May 25, 2011 at 4:19 pm

After reading this article Debbie, I’m disappointed in Herman Cain for wanting a muslim to his cabinet or the SCOTUS if he’s the nominee for the GOP and beats Obama in next years election.

Afterall, Herman Cain is a good guy, but him flip-flopping on islam just made the dude unelectable, prior to that he was strong on the threat of islam and acknowledged it. I’m not going to make excuses for Mr. Cain, but I think his advisors and PR men whispered into his ear and told him that he can appoint muslims to his cabinet and the supreme court if he wins next years election? DS, I’m just assuming something like that occured, I’m NOT apologizing for Herman Cain!

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on May 25, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Debbie, once again we are being fooled this guy has lost his mind! To get elected it seems people are afraid to stand for any truth and justice nothing is black and white anymore. Mr. Cain is trying to play both sides to get elected and he is now DOA! Looks like we have to find someone out of the Republican field to step up otherwise the islamo panderer Obama is going to coast to a reelection. Back to square one!

ELI DAVIS on May 25, 2011 at 4:25 pm

This is what happened to conservatives finding themselves more and more on the public spotlight, to the point of trying to avoid looking like Islamophobic bigots if they speak out against a “religion” like Islam. Cowards, the whole lot of them.

Look like you’re stuck with Rep. Allen West for the time being, Debbie. You better pray he doesn’t follow Cain’s example.

Rob on May 25, 2011 at 4:37 pm

Sad. The Islamic community is going to vote for Obummer anyway, why pander?

When Can We Get West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Occam's Tool on May 25, 2011 at 4:39 pm

The issue that he faces is the same for a number of problems that we have. We don’t want to say what we really think or know. We are at war with Islam, so are the Europeans. Yet no one will say that or acknowledge a problem. The Indians did and were firmly critized by the internaltional community. Other issues: why do blacks not preform well as other groups in school, why do we actively try and harm our industry, why don’t we stop illegal traffic across the border, why do we have stupid airline security, what happened to the 4th amendment, why do we have a war on drugs, in fact why does the government control our access to medications in the first place? To answer these and other concerns you have to acknowledge that we don’t live in a free country and much of what we think and do is governed by a small, liberal group.

david7134 on May 25, 2011 at 4:40 pm

If you wish to bow and scrape before Islam, I have no interest in you. Mr. Cain now indeed has the “Mark of Cain” on him. The GOP seems to breeding real garbage lately. If Republicans wish to be Democrats Lite, let them go all the way. It would be less contemptible than their current cross-dressing act.

Worry01 on May 25, 2011 at 5:38 pm

Its really quite simple; its not a conspiracy: Islam is politically untouchable.

Literally. How many candidates do you think are going to take it on?

Debbie, you can tell the truth since you’re not running for office and as for Herman Cain’s flip-flop, well as Ronald Reagan once observed, the world’s second oldest profession bears an uncanny resemblance to the first.

I can’t say I’m surprised at the news but I’m still disappointed.

NormanF on May 25, 2011 at 5:55 pm

Ugh. Ok, this post just destroyed me. I was really for Herman Cain even though his foreign policy knowledge is weak.

I wish he did not go on Beck. Beck, we know what he is here AND is just the type to WANT a strong Conservative to NOT think like Herman Cain’s initial response (which made me cheer). Beck does link all the dangerous socialist dots together BUT we know where he equivocates and has his head up his keester.

Damn. I just don’t see Zero being beat at this time. Don’t get me wrong, he has PLENTY of reasons to be kicked out of office, but if the majority of Americans don’t WANT to see it, what can the truth seekers do?

Zero is a Jew hater. I know most who frequent here know that but that must be understood. Don’t forget the LA Times refuses to release the video of that dinner years back he and Thing 2 attended that whipped up the crowd in an anti-Jewish frenzy. (Rhashid Kaleedi)

We’ll see, but this just sucks.

Skunky on May 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm

Don’t be disappointed in all the wanna-bees. Trump, Cain, Huckabee. Sit back, open a cold one, and throw a few on the barbie. We’ve got plenty of time to find a strong, American, businessman (or woman), with governing experience before 2012. People like Mr. Cain come and go in every cycle. No worries.

COCOJO on May 25, 2011 at 6:19 pm

First, Cain is a populist first and for most. He is doing just what a populist does so this is not surprising to me. Having a muslim on the bench… Hmmm… Is he that supportive of shariah law that he would compromise America and to our Constitution just to get elected? With this kind of thinking, he is sounding more like Colin Powell than a “conservative” and thus should be supporting Li’l Barry, like Powell, in the next election rather wanting to run against him.

Pats on May 25, 2011 at 6:21 pm

The conservative movement has people in it without principle and integrity.

Cain’s flip-flop reminds me that if you stand for nothing, you’re in the wrong business.

A decade after 9/11, you’d think people would grasp we’re at war with Islam.

Its a really simple issue and on second thought, its better to see Cain revealed now for who he is than when he was the GOP nominee.

NormanF on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 pm

not surprising seeing that he wasn’t familiar with the ‘right of return’ issue with israel. if he’s that ignorant on basic middle east trivia and issues, it comes as no surprise that he thinks muslims are no threat or risk and that panering to them is harmless.

hey, pizza godfather, NOT what most americans want to hear… most of us are rightfully fearful of islam in any form and freaked out by the prospect of islamic infiltration into our governemtn and court system.

howard roark on May 25, 2011 at 7:15 pm

I don’t see anything wrong with what he said. He did not say that he would seek out Muslims to appoint, only that he would not reject an otherwise well-qualified person because the person is a Muslim. That is exactly what I would expect a President to do – after all, according to the Constitution, “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States”

A Constitutionalist on May 25, 2011 at 7:15 pm

You guys are crazy. Go listen to what he said….it is not a flip flop.

R: I listened. He did a complete 180. Anyone who says I’m crazy for noticing a flat-out lie and complete reversal needs to look in the mirror when uttering that. DS

Rick on May 25, 2011 at 7:26 pm

Ok, Ron Pauliers if he had said the first time I will not appoint any radical muslim terrorist jihadists in my cabinet what would you be saying then as opposed to now? The fact that he said he would consider a muslim if he was qualified and was loyal to the constitution and our laws does not mean every appointment will be muslim. Oh but I forgot, all you Ron Paul supporters always take things to extreme. Keep it up and you wonder why your candidate can’t get any traction. Your just as extreme as any jihadist, socialist, marxist, communist democrat.

Chare on May 25, 2011 at 7:44 pm

I don’t see what the big hubbub is over. I came to this country about 40 years ago – and remember when there was still severe anti-jewish sentiment. If people would not tolerate that, why would they tolerate anti-Islam sentiment. Its the same. There are many Muslims in my native Sweden, and most (not all) are hardworking people and same as the ones here. They resemble all other minorities/ethnic groups (I know they are a religion not an ethnicity). I think this websites founder and those who comment need to remember it wasn’t too long ago it was them (the Jews) who were not wanted in Congress, or anywhere in the US because they were supposed Christ Killers. Do not forget your history people.

Hans

H: Huh? You are on crack. Tell the Jews of Malmo (er . . . the FORMER Jews of Malmo) and the Israeli Davis Cup Tennis Team about the great, hardworking Muslims of Sweden who threatened their lives repeatedly. When Jews make jihad against non-Jews and fly planes into buildings then you can tell me we are the same. Until then, get a frickin’ clue. DS

Hans Erikkson on May 25, 2011 at 7:59 pm

Hans, you got a point right there, anti-semitism existed in our government many decades ago, because they were “brainwashed” on believing that the “jews” killed jesus, and as well know that it was the Romans who killed christ. But Hans, I hope you acknowledge that the threat of islam to our shores and borders is dead serious and not just plain old rhetoric. Also Hans, Herman Cain flip-flopped, if you remembered three months ago or so, he knew the threat of islam and didn’t trust them that much, now he said that “if he wins the election, he’ll appoint muslim people to his cabinet and nominate them to the SCOTUS”, Cain said that Hans, so Debbie is NOT putting words into Cain’s mouth.

PS, to Chare, you must be a newbie to this site, we are NOT Ron Paul shill-hacks, we know that Paul is unelectable and a little anti-Israel, if you’ve were here long enough, you’ll notice that DS and the rest of us aren’t Ron Paul flacks.

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on May 25, 2011 at 8:19 pm

Hans, what the hell is your problem? You don’t read this website, it is obvious because your comment is akin to a 12 year old girls (with Unicorns on her bedroom wall) and if there ever were a site to prove the dangerousness of the Islamic threat, THIS IS IT.

Why don’t you get cracking and start reading the archives? I see you just think we come here because we looooooove to hate Mooooooslims for no reason. My gosh, have you been reading anything but Tiger Beat these last 10 years?????

Oh, and I would hardly be bragging about Sweden. If you don’t wake up, you and the odious Dutch (in Holland) will be paying dearly pretty soon.

Skunky on May 25, 2011 at 8:31 pm

Oh, I meant to add in my post that horrid POS Lars Von Trier just said dispicable things last week at Cannes. Those of his ilk make me sick and I would NEVER travel to Sweden, Norway or Holland and give those creeps my $$$.

Skunky on May 25, 2011 at 8:35 pm

“I listened. He did a complete 180. Anyone who says I’m crazy for noticing a flat-out lie and complete reversal needs to look in the mirror when uttering that. DS”

No, it’s not a complete 180. He’s not saying that he WANTS to hire Muslims, or that he would SEEK to hire Muslims, only that he would not REFUSE to hire Muslims. Since the Constitution prohibits the government (and, therefore, the President) from imposing a religious test on public officials, his statement merely complies with what his Constitutional obligations would be as President.

A Constitutionalist on May 25, 2011 at 8:36 pm

Ditto what “A Constitutionalist” said. Please read it again.

Herman Cain looks to me like the most sensible Republican in the race so far and he has libertarian leanings, which I like. I also like the fact that he’s NOT a lifelong politician. Some say that’s a weakness. I don’t think professional politicians have done right by Americans, let’s see what he can do and send a message to the established (corrupt) politicians.

Please don’t count him out yet.

Suz on May 25, 2011 at 8:43 pm

You’re not getting it AC and Suze…it is CW that a person in office CAN decide to do what they want to do REGARDLESS whether it is kosher or not (look at Zero and how he excludes Texas and other states he did NOT win in…like Missouri with federal assistance and all his appointed Czars), but at this point in the game, the Islamic threat is dangerous and there is no time for anything but 100% seriousness in the fight. That is the call at this very moment in the fight, but we see USA has become a PC nightmare so if politicians are NOT lying to gain power, they are doing a kabuki dance to seem all inclusive. Cain’s FIRST answer was the correct one. There is no need to equivocate at this serious time. Every minute Zero is at the helm makes it even MORE dangerous. (I don’t even know why I waste my time with this…it’s even hard to get Conservatives to see there is NO distinction between Muslim and “radical” Muslims. PC has ruined this great country).

Yuck, Libertarians have NEVER been Conservatives. Most of the time they are Losertarians.

Skunky on May 25, 2011 at 9:10 pm

you guys are funny, few days ago he was the future US president and today he is in the garbage lol

your hate is not good for your beauty

cheers!

german on May 25, 2011 at 9:12 pm

He WAS my guy. I posted on his facebook wall, that he flip flopped, and how disappointed In was with him. Not 2 minutes later, the post was deleted.

Fortunately, in that 2 minutes, one person asked how he flip flopped, and I posted links.

Kirk on May 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm

I see money still talks, just like it did in the 1930s.

F.D.R. in Hell on May 25, 2011 at 9:52 pm

Constitutionalist reminds us that “according to the Constitution, “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States””

That presumes that Islam is a religion like all the others. It’s not. And the government is allowed (I presume still) to deny employment to fascists, communists, neo-Nazis, and those otherwise dedicated to the overthrow of the government. Those who believe, as Islam teaches, that only “the law of Allah” is legitimate (and man-made law is not), that Muslim believers are obligated to work to replace the rule of the non-believers, and don’t believe as the Declaration of Independence says that “all men are created equal”, etc. cannot honestly take the oath of office I took when I worked for the Feds.

Raymond in DC on May 25, 2011 at 10:56 pm

He was liked on my Facebook account before seeing this. Not anymore, and I never supported him for president ether.

Squirrel3D on May 25, 2011 at 11:35 pm

The Republican Conservative movement hasn’t had a strong leader since…Reagan. That’s a long time, when you also consider that the last Republican Presidents were very liberal NON-Conservatives and muslim friendly.
Too many two-faced Traitors like Colin Powell.
So far Rep. Allen West still looks like the real-deal.

theShadow on May 26, 2011 at 12:19 am

This one really pains me. I have learned some tough things on Debbie’s site. I don’t like this. I was a strong Cain supporter. But DS is right in that we have to take peoples words seriously. I really do hate this. But when a man disappoints us in one very important area, we have to see that this type of double-minded action sends a terrible message.

We either stand for what is right, or we stand for nothing. If Herman Cain was against the Islamic onslaught, then he should have continued that message. But he apparently is not. Or at least the concern of what the establishment thinks scared him. Damn it. We don’t need that kind of pathetic leadership.

In my opinion, we have nobody qualified to lead our nation. We might be doomed. Damn it.

PDMac60 on May 26, 2011 at 12:23 am

To the Constitutionalist and Suz:

Islam does not qualifies itself as a religion. It’s a political, socioeconomic system masquerading as a “religion”.

Rob on May 26, 2011 at 12:29 am

Maybe he’s practicing Taqiyya in order to get the muslim vote.
Besides, I’m waiting for Allen West to run.

Globe Warmer on May 26, 2011 at 12:45 am

Islam is a pagan ‘religion’ that tried to make itself more palatteable by including Moses and Jesus in it’s teachings. The ‘moses and jesus’ of islam bear no resemblence to their namesakes in the Hebrew and Christian scriptures.
Something utterly simple that it seems just too many people fail to grasp.
Identity Theft BC…(before computers).

theShadow on May 26, 2011 at 12:48 am

I’m sorry but the journalism skills here are lacking. Please show where Cain said he would never appoint a Muslim, because that question was never asked. What was asked was if he would feel comfortable doing so, and he gave a quick answer. He wouldn’t feel comfortable. Did not state that he wouldn’t do it. Please rewatch the entire video. Herman Cain is required by law to consider every candidate, regardless of race, religion, creed or color. So honestly you are upset that Herman stated what he would or wouldn’t feel comfortable with, and then stated he would follow this nations laws. Please explain your stance against US law

Jason on May 26, 2011 at 2:29 am

I think he was already toast because of his inability to discuss the so-called “right of return”. It’s kinda like someone who wants to get into med school but they can’t pass Biology 101. All one needs to know about right of return is that it’s crock-o’-sh!t; even a dumb WASP like me knows that.

What’s frightening is that Cain, with his apparent naivete, was still able to stand out amongst a panel of other Republicans in a recent debate. That being the case, it makes the field of possible nominees look pretty lame so far.

CornCoLeo on May 26, 2011 at 3:54 am

Wow. You pwned his a**, Debbie. Too bad he backed down.

He didn’t sound very sharp, anyway. Obamaniacs/Jouro-listas would have torn him up, anyway.

DS_ROCKS! on May 26, 2011 at 4:53 am

DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! he did not flip flop, he reiterated that IF said possible muslim appointee vowed an oath to the put the USA and the constitution first and foremost before their religious views(if you want to call them that,)then and ONLY then would he be willing to appoint them…and he went on to say that he didn’t believe that they would be willing to do so, which inevitable ends in NO MUSLIM APPOINTMENTS. not a flip flop, just an explanation to further explain his first statement.

T: Huh? I did my research. I watched the video. I read his comments in which he reversed course 100%. DS

Tina on May 26, 2011 at 8:18 am

Disappointed in Cain. I liked him alot. Appreciate the info on his flip flop. I will not vote for him in the primary.

David Kachuck on May 26, 2011 at 8:43 am

Debbie,

Islam mandates on the Moslem to lie in three cases 1 – to pROTECT HIMSELF, 2 – tO PROTECT A mOSLEM AND 3 – iF IT IS IN THE best interest of Islam. Islam is ordained on the Moslem as a religious duty in all theses case.

This proved to be the most powerful weapon Islam has. To infiltrate silently, until they have the power to foist their rule on the country. I am very sus[icious that Mr. Cain is already a convert to Islam.He is just preparing us psychologically to accept this if and when he is elected.

Now listen to this; Al-Abbas – Muhammad’s youngets uncle proclaimed Muhamad as a messenger of god right after Khadigah. But he kept his proclamation secret so that it does not affect his business dealing with Qureish and to let them keep dealing with him. He arranged for Muhammad his padt with the people of Yathreb and eventhough it was obvious that it was a pact to inveade and subjugate Mecca he never told Qureish anything about it and never made his “Islam” known to Qureish until Muhammad was on the doors of Mecca with 10,000.00w warriors. This is a sample of the treachery inherent in Islam.

Another example, one of his followers form the tribe of Ghatfan hit his “Islam” from his tribe. It was this fellow who fooled all the coalition of the battle of the trench and deceived them one by one for the benefit of Myhammad. It was also this Na-eem Ibn Massoud who deceived Bani Quraizah into surrendering to Muhammad without conditions and they were slaughtered and captivated.

This is what you should know about the treachery of Islam.It is a part of their faith and it is a religious duty on them.

You know Mam, I am pretty certain Mr. Cain is a convert to Islam but hiding it to fool America into believing in him.

G. R. SCHAROUBIM on May 26, 2011 at 9:36 am

Herman cain is a convert to Islam. He is just hiding it to deceive us.

G. R. SCHAROUBIM on May 26, 2011 at 9:38 am

http://hermancainissues.com/general/appointing-muslims-to-cabinet/
watch this and maybe you would see the this article is total bs

Brent on May 26, 2011 at 11:41 am

Fraud? Flip-flop, OK…but “fraud”? Really?

Excalibur on May 26, 2011 at 1:45 pm

It is unlike a conservative journalist to simply whack a guy at first look, Debbie.

Cain said that if a muslim could absolutely convince him of his loyalty to the US first, that he would consider hiring him. Debbie, a President MUST do this.

Now, please, put every other candidate to this same test.

Dianne Patti on May 26, 2011 at 2:34 pm

I’m quite confused here. Liberatarians love the constitution and founding documents, but want to go ahead and ignore it if it applys to Muslims also? This is the most ludicrous arguement I’ve ever heard. Oh, we must recognize the growing threat? Cain clearly stated that he sees it as a growing threat, but the ignorant fools on here are the ones convinced that every Muslim is a terrorist that hates this country and wants to destroy us. People like that are ignorant fools. I remember the last time a major nation decided an entire religous population was a threat that wanted to take over. It didn’t end well. Instead of carrying on with your ignorance, why not listen to what Cain says? He’s not comfortable with the idea, but he will give everyone a fair chance, just as the constitution requires. Unless of course you guys wanna give the constitution a break on this one…

Jason on May 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm

He said he wouldn’t be comfortable….he didn’t say he wouldn’t appoint one. He has clarified his comment.

Chaya on May 26, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Very disappointed to hear of this. I was impressed enough with Cain that I was starting to make the effort to find out more info on his platform and positions on the issues. But this news pretty much rules him out of my list of possible candidates to support.

JB on May 26, 2011 at 3:42 pm

I would not appoint a muslim because the very fact they are a muslim tells me they aren’t too bright. Harsh but true. Read the Kuran. Stupid.

MaryofAz on May 26, 2011 at 3:51 pm

If he was indeed a closet muslim, I think that would make him the beast. If you get my drift.

MaryofAz on May 26, 2011 at 3:56 pm

I would not appoint a muslim to my cabinet. Anyone that takes islam seriously is stupid. Harsh yes. But think about it for a minute. Read the Kuran. It’s just stupid. So keep your PC, racist, hater crap, it’s about their intellect. Stupid.

MaryofAz on May 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm