Guh! There are alot of crazy Muslims out there, I will give you that, but every religion picks and chooses parts of their respective holy books that they’ll listen to, or ignore. For example, Christians love the parts of the old testament where they talk about how homosexuality is evil, but they don’t like the parts in old testament were God tells people to kill!
However, if a Muslim says that they only follow the portions of the Quaran that don’t command them to kill, they’re met with disbelief. Although that shouldn’t suprise anyone. Seriously, who still believes women should cover their hair? What the hell is that? Talk about setting womens rights back a few decades. How are the feminists not speaking out against Muslims?
Just a peeve of mine.
Right now I’m not happy with anyone, regardless of religion. Everyone is too busy trying to tell each other what you can and can’t do or say. The Muslims can’t be portrayed as terrorists on TV, even though there are obviously Muslim terrorists, you can’t have Prince play a FUCKING GUITAR at the superbowl with out conservative Christians getting their panties in a knot. WTF is this. We’re supposed to be the land of the free, able to say what we want, but everyone is trying to silence everyone else that doesn’t share the same viewpoints. People have to tiptoe around every word they say on TV or the radio, because someone might get their feelings hurt.
As far as I’m concerned, whether the Muslims or the Christians take over the United States in the next coming years, things are still going to go way down hill.
Muslims will try to enforce sharia law, and ban alcohol, and women walking outside with out headdresses. Obscenity will be punishable by death, and women will be forbidden to drive. So much for bacon and eggs, because you can’t eat pork at all. And don’t even think about trying to get a family dog.
Christians will push for increasing security moving the US towards an orwellian state, where big brother is always in the room, attempting to make sure that everyone is being a good Christian, and praying, and only having sex for the purpose of procreation to the point where everyone is a mindless zombie, living for the sole purpose of passing the seed.
As far as I’m concerned, we’re screwed no matter what. Unless being a mindless zombie is your thing. Which it probably is.
If either situation arises, you can bet your ass I’m getting out of the country, or doing what I can to defend what’s left of the constitution that that current administration hasn’t already used as toilet paper.
The only way to avoid it is with secular and objective leadership, who’s number one goal is upholding the constitution. Christians wouldn’t want to live in a Muslim state, don’t make me live in either state. I don’t want executive decisions being made based on what’s written in a book, regardless of what book it is. And before anyone says “wah, wah, the US was founded as a Chrstian state, yadda, yadda”
If that was the case, the founders would have included something about having to follow the Bible in the constitution. They didn’t however, because they understood the importance of having an objective viewpoint.
Whatever though.
/rant

ConservativesLovePuns(descent) on August 22, 2007 at 11:10 am

Here here!!! Finally, a sane-minded person. Thank you, ConservativesLovePuns(descent). You said everything I wish I could have said had I been more articulate.

jsnyder82 on August 22, 2007 at 12:05 pm

Southernops,
What does a 40 year old conservative virgin like you know about getting a date? Your destiny of unchosen celibacy certainly explains your angst.

jaillibby2 on August 22, 2007 at 5:23 pm

As usual, Mister Eleven has his finger of the pulse of ISLAMIC JIHAD. One of the murderers, seems to have put a contract out on Mister Eleven. I can read between the lines. Bring it on JIHAD BILLIE!
“GOODBYE, FingerEleven.
BTW, a great show by Christiane Amanpour. She’s the smartest woman on TV by far. Everyone should see it; if not, a transcript at cnn.com will probably be available shortly.
Once again, kudos to Christiane Amanpour, a smart and sexy woman for the sophisticated male.
Posted by: jaillibby2 ”

FingerEleven on August 22, 2007 at 6:30 pm

Okay. The Anti Israel muslim woman is going to define who she thinks is God’s warriors are. Here she makes up religion as she would like it. She forgot about all the beheadings. Is she for real?
Christians and Jews worship the same God. Muslims do not worship same god as Christians and Jews. Christians and Jews worship Yahweh. The one true and only God. Muslims worship the moon warrior god allah. Isalm is the most bloodiest false religion.
What a jive report! This is to bridge Christians, Jews and muslims together. We are all the same. We all kill for our religion. Not true. Islam is the only religion that converts by the sword as mandated by their false prophet in their false unholy book. Some One needs to tell the muslims we don’t worship them same God. Their god says to kill and conqure indel. Force conversions by the sword to the false moon god allah. Conquesting a booty and all “that their right hand posseses”
CNN is so anti-Israel.
What a jive phony report.
Danny

dannygirl on August 22, 2007 at 9:11 pm

For what it’s worth, I did not “run away” as accused. I do have a job (I own a business), so I cannot simply spend all night in a spirited debate, much to my dismay. Sleep is also required. I believe that accusation was lobbed around 3 a.m.
Perhaps I was too busy looking for my moral compass that I didn’t bother responding to everything….
To fall in the trap that everything Muslim is bad, and everything not Muslim is good is ridiculous, like a child believing that their parent knows the totality of right and wrong. One must keep an open mind to the fact that their religion is not necessarily the innocent party in a world of persecution.
Carry on.

jkbramer on August 22, 2007 at 9:51 pm

I think Richard Baehr’s title “Amanpour’s War” describes the show perfectly! Just the usual CNN crap-aganda.
“In last night’s show, there were so many lies, it is hard to know which to point out.”
“Another whopper was the supposedly terrible plight of the Palestinian “refugees” dispersed to make way for the plaza adjoining the Western Wall in” the old city” section of Jerusalem. Amanpour utters not a word about how for 19 years, from 1948 to 1967, the Jordanians used Jewish graves on the Mount of Olives as latrines, or how they destroyed all the synagogues in the old city, and that they prohibited Jews from praying at their holiest sites.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/amanpours_war.html

WillPower on August 22, 2007 at 10:59 pm

Jk-
Yes – you did run away and like a liberal you have a nice excuse. So, how about doing some research in your spare time (which, btw you have enough of to come in here and spew your dogma) on those essential questions I asked you. Or are you too busy?? What is stopping you from learning about Islam? What are you afraid of?
There is no trap that we are falling into, we are not children as you suggest. I am approaching this problem as an adult would and educating myself. My mind is open friend and I will clearly say that Christianity and Judaism are the innocent parties in a “world of persecution.” This “world of persecution” as you put it – is without a doubt a result of Islam’s influence in the world – and if we were able to take Islam out of the picture in all major world conflicts, I believe we would have world peace.
You arrogance is not lost on me – and your ignorance is astonishing.

CarpeDiem on August 22, 2007 at 11:11 pm

jbk,
Nobody said all muslims are bad (or that all “infidels” are good). That is a straw man argument. What has been said is that ISLAM the religion is distinct from Judaism and Christianity. To claim all religions are the same – that is the simplistic statement. To claim, as Amanpour, does that fundalmentalists in the three religions are the same is both simplistic and contradicted by the facts. Neither Jews nor Christians kill apostates, but muslims have and do. There are no fatwas to demand the death of anti-Christian authors like Hitchens, only authors like Rushdie that “insult” islam.
The problem is the structure and content of the Koran, not individual muslims. Some muslims are good people. But, their religion justifies doing evil to non-muslims in a way that Judaism and Christianity do not.

WillPower on August 22, 2007 at 11:14 pm

Willpower –
Yes, but jk does not know what an apostate is, or a fatwa for that matter. He prefers to come in and like a leftist/multiculturalist look his nose down at people who are actually engaging in the questions of our day. The worst kind of person – an arrogant liberal.

CarpeDiem on August 22, 2007 at 11:19 pm

All excellent points Dannygirl.

CarpeDiem on August 22, 2007 at 11:23 pm

Check this link, scroll down for a list of recent terror attacks committed by Muslims in the last two months. How many terrorist attacks have been committed by Jews or Christians during the same time period? P.S. Have a look at the “beautiful” pictures provided by the religion of “peace”.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

CarpeDiem on August 22, 2007 at 11:41 pm

The problem is Islam. The problem will always be Islam. Why contend with sophists like Amanpour and Islam’s apologists? They’re brain-dead already and wilfully denying the truth. You could argue with them until angels fly out of your ass, and still they will not acknowledge the truth about the malefic essence of Islam. These people cannot face up to the reality that Islam is barbaric and insalubrious and should be shelved forever, safely out of reach from the simpletons of mankind.

ontheright on August 23, 2007 at 8:19 am

From Magic City Morning Star
Michael Devolin
Christiane Amanpour: An Accomplice to Lies
By Michael Devolin
Aug 23, 2007 – 6:28:08 AM
As a rebuttal to those who questioned her professionalism after witnessing her emotional outbursts during her coverage of the siege of Sarajevo, Christiane Amanpour replied, “There are some situations one cannot be neutral about, because when you are neutral you are an accomplice.” Apparently Christiane Amanpour feels less emotional and more neutral about Jews and their religious connection to Israel than she does for the Muslims of Sarajevo.
In her latest documentary, God’s Warriors, Amanpour vilifies Jews simply by equating religious Jews with religious Muslims. Of course, not everyone will see it this way. Not everyone these days is willing (or brave enough) to critique Islam and its adherents, both for the violence and anti-Jewish hatred this religion and its attendant culture advocates, and the advocates of this religion and its culture, for how they are all too willing to accommodate such violence and anti-Jewish hatred. Obviously, the journalist Amanpour is not brave enough. An Oriana Fallaci she is not.
Anyone who has studied the history of Islam will know that Jews and Judaism do not deserve to be in any way compared as imitations of Muslims and their Islam. Anyone as knowledgeable as Christiane Amanpour should be, who makes such a comparison in her documentary God’s Warriors, can do so only wilfully, with laboured effort and with malefic intent. A religious Jewish friend, a directing member of the right-wing B’nai Elim intoned to me after watching the film, “I fear that she has awakened more sleeping anti-Semites and empowered the rest of the Jew-haters in the world. The attacks on Jews and Jewish establishments will no doubt increase as a result.”
I’m sure CNN is so very proud of Amanpour’s anti-Israel, anti-Judaism diatribe. Of course, her “moral equivalency” is standard for CNN and their self-aggrandizing, cowardly journalists. Heaven forbid they should point out that Jews do not blow themselves up in German and Austrian restaurants for the sins of the Holocaust and the Crusades. Heaven forbid they should reveal, as did Ayaan Hirsi Ali in her book Infidel, that “Violent jihad is a historical constant in Islam.” Heaven forbid they should expose the fact that Muslim zealots in the 21st century behead journalists and aid-workers simply because those journalists and aid-workers are Christians and Jews and therefore do not measure up to the Prophet Mohammed and the glory of the Koran. CNN and their effete journalists like Christiane Amanpour (all her war correspondence notwithstanding) are incapable of making such veridical contradistinctions simply because they have long ago made the obsequious choice to feed the masses with palatable slander, even though the masses, as history has so often exposed, often howl for anti-Jewish slander.
In Sarajevo, at the height of her fame, Amanpour boasted to the world, “Objectivity doesn’t mean treating all sides equally.” Apparently this axiom does not apply when one of those sides are the Jews and the State of Israel. The warped logic of her documentary purports that Jewish terrorists are numerous, as active, and as determined to destroy the “goyim” (non-Jew) as are the Muslim terrorists to destroy not only Israel and her Jews, but also the entire Western world. This is one time when I’m sure the Jewish people would insist on being regarded as not equal to Muslims and their sequent, religiously inspired terrorism, not because such equivalence is so unattractive and out of character for Jews, but simply because it’s an outrageous lie. Christiane Amanpour, as a result of her evident disdain for objectivity, is now become an accomplice to that lie.
Written by Michael Devolin
© Copyright 2002-2007 by Magic City Morning Star

ontheright on August 23, 2007 at 8:31 am

To ontheright:
Islamo-Fascism is certainly a problem, but the problem hasn’t always been Islam and the problem might not always be Islam.
In my narrow view, the problem is anti-Semitism. In a world void of anti-Semitism, the War Against Israel could not exist.
Anti-Semitism resonates far and wide beyond the boundries of Islam. As such, in similar fashion to the Nazi fascism that developed during the same era, the rest of the world is neutralized to the bigger threat; thinking instead that the Muslim threat is limited to the Jews. 62 years after the fall of the Third Reich, a new generation exists who has not experienced this hard-earned lesson. This has given Islamo-Fascists an opportunity to employ a time-honored tactic and leverage anti-Semitism to propagate itself.
This is why you can find people from all points on the political spectrum who pander to Islamo-Fascists. I grew up in Illinois where Charles Percy was well known as a “moderate Republican”. The extreme left; anti-Semitic as always has formed an unholy alliance with Islamo-Fascism. Pat Buchanan and others on the right also pander to Islamo-Fascists with the common message of: “If only the Jews would get out of the way”.
Most of Debbie’s fans know that the threat extends far beyond Israel and the Jewish people. I know I do. But when you talk about THE problem, you need to realize that without anti-Semitism as a central tactic, Islamo-Fascism has a very small audience outside of Islam.

There is NO Santa Claus on August 23, 2007 at 8:47 am

Hey, Santa, Islam is an anti-Jewish religion. That’s all you need to face up to. Therefore Islam IS the problem now. Don’t presume to teach me about anti-Jewish hatred. I’m 52 now, but I was attending war crimes trials when I was in my twenties as a body-guard to Jewish friends, and believe me, Nazis are persistently similar to Muslims in their cultural derogation of the Jew. You need to get out there and do some reading.
It’s not about people “pandering” to anti-Jewish hatred. Buchannan doesn’t pander to anti-Jewish hatred: Buchannan IS an anti-Jewish bigot and an asshole. That’s all you need to know. What, is there a difference between those who “pander” to “Islamofascists” and those who are actually anti-Semites? That’s twisted. Are those who pander less culpable of disseminating anti-Jewish hatred than those who are actually killing Jewish children in Israel? Oh, yeah, and anti-Jewish hatred is tangential of Islam, right? Wrong. Enough of your apologia already! Grow up, my unctuous friend. Have some balls. See Islam for what it is. And it is certainly not a benign ideology. Racism and hatred of the Jew is organic of Islam, not tangential of it.

ontheright on August 23, 2007 at 12:59 pm

jaillibby2,
very funny response…and I thought you commie libs didn’t have a sense of humor.
Come on now, be thruthful? Which one tickles your fancy the most…Amanpour? Estrich?…could it be Geraldo? 🙂

Southernops on August 23, 2007 at 4:38 pm

After reading your post, Southernops, it’s clear you are quite obtuse and wouldn’t know a “commie lib” from a backhoe. This is the extent of your intellect, to go about name-calling? That’s what the real commie libs do. Oh, I get it, you’re fond of Buchannan. Buchannan can kiss my ass.

ontheright on August 23, 2007 at 6:22 pm

ontheright:
It’s become plainly clear to me that you aren’t to be taken seriously.
No biggy. Really!
Regards,
There is NO Santa Claus

There is NO Santa Claus on August 23, 2007 at 10:18 pm

Some of you are so dumb. All muslims are bad. They are either terrorists and muslim supremacists, sympathetic, or at best ambivalent but engaged in a plot to have as many children as possible so they can eventually remove all ‘infidels’ from the face of the earth. This isn’t complicated, every one of them is MY enemy, I don’t know about some of you dummies.

steve ventry on August 25, 2007 at 3:02 pm

I’m with Steve Ventry. We need people who are willing to call a spade a spade.As for There is NO Santa Claus, he needs to re-admit himself to the psych ward he escaped from.

ontheright on August 30, 2007 at 1:52 am