Nice eyebrow, Mehmet.

TheOmegaMan on February 11, 2008 at 4:45 pm

BTW, the name Mehmet in Turkish Means Mohammad in Arabic. Wayyyyyy to go America. They are infiltrating everywhere.
[D: EXACTLY. MEHMET = MOHAMMED. AHMET = AHMED. ETC. DS]

Daniel on February 11, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Joel J. Sprayregen, Esq., walked right into that one. Another DS KNOCK OUT PUNCH!

ParaLyzer on February 11, 2008 at 11:52 pm

Dear Debbie,
As you see yourself we have no choice than to chose between Scilla and Haribda (is my spelling right?).
The question is – which of the two roses – white or black – will win the war. Looks like the black one. Time to pack the back-packs (rucksacs?).
By the way, A. Hitler has been elected by popular vote and didn’t take power by overthrowing it by Coup D’Etat on the first place.

MarcAurelio on February 12, 2008 at 2:53 am

Way to go, Deb.

Jeremiah on February 12, 2008 at 3:51 am

Dear Debbie,
First of all I really appreciate how you shed light on important issues such as this by catalyzing the discussion.
As someone who lived in Turkey (unfortunately) for several years, I know quite a bit about Kurtlar Vadisi and the television series. The television series was the number one program ever in the history of Turkey and was about “inter mafia” warfare and nothing about US and Iraq. In some episodes Sharon Stone was featured romanticly with the main character (who was the star of the controversial movie). My research shows that Mr. Celebi’s role in the series was to sign her to the program.
The movie is an entirely different story (also the most viewed movie in Turkish History). Certainly some strong Turkish nationalism which was completely over the top. It was uplifting to see the all to familiar Billy Zane and Gary Busey in the cast (Again, Mr. Celebi’s role was delivering Hollywood). What bothered me most about the movie, more than it being boring and tasteless, was that several high ranking government officials attended the movie’s premier reception; Bulent Arinc (the speaker of the parliament, and the Prime Minister’s wife). Their positive comments about the film and attending the premier was viewed as an endoresment of the Turkish Government (an ally of the US and Israel).
I know Mr. Celebi would not have made it into the higher echelons of the Democratic fundraising circles (or Republican) if allegations of him being anti-semetic had any teeth.
I can think of several dozen much better reasons not to elect Hillary (God forbid).
[DG: YET ANOTHER MEHMET CELEBI APOLOGIST. I REPEAT, AS I WROTE IN THIS POST, CELEBI ACTED IN THE MOVIE. HE KNOWS IT WAS ANTI-SEMITIC. YET HE PARTICIPATED IN IT AND PROVIDED ACTORS FOR THE MOVIE. END OF STORY. IF IT WERE 1942, WOULD YOU BE MAKING SUCH EXCUSES FOR GOEBBELS & LENI RIEFENSTAHL? DS]

David Grossman on February 12, 2008 at 5:48 am

Hi Debie,
Iím residing in Istanbul and know all about this dreadful movie and television series.
Donít mistake the two, there is a series called Kurtlar Vadasi (Valley of the Wolves), which is about rivaling mafia groups in Turkey including Russians. It was supposedly based on a Brazilian comedy satirizing the domestic mafia scene. Valley of the Wolves series was so lucrative it signed on Sharon Stone to appear for an undisclosed sum (with organization of Mr. Celebi). Her kissing the main character, Polat, in one program was one of the few high points in Turkish public opinion towards America in the last five years.
Then came the blockbuster Kurtlar Vadasi-Iraq, the most famous movie in the history of Turkey; and personified a down-point in US-Turkey relations This time the setting was Iraq, and postured the American soldiers (albeit there was one good soldier) as ruthless killers (one being Billy Zane) against the hero of the television series, once again, Polat. I got in a heated exchange of words with several Turkish friends about whether or not this absurd Turkish Rambo flick was fiction or factual documentary. The bit with the Jewish organ broker (Gary Busey) selling kidneyís to Londoners should have been edited out but hey thatís the kind of stuff seems to sell tickets in Turkey as does blood and gore. I read that a number of other parts were edited out and others added in to dramatization.
So, letís get to the point. Based on Mr. Celebiís role of booking Kurtlar Vadasiís actors should we classify Mr. Celebi as a Nazi? I think not, a simple Google search in Turkish gives around a dozen sources mentioning Mehmet Celebi being the ìgo toî man for recruiting Hollywood talent in Turkey noting he delivered Billy Zane, Gary Busey, and Sharon Stone to the Kurtlar Vadasi productions. Celebi is not the first to recruit actors for a controversial film.
The more interesting bit was the talk of Celebi, a Chicago businessman starring in a Turkish blockbuster. So me and my wife decided to look for ourselves. We rented the flick and were almost convinced that Celebi was not in the movie. Then we spotted him as a cook/waiter with no speaking lines. Seems as if our famed Mr. Celebi was amongst the 100+ extras; so as the credits listed him. I wonder if the rest of the extras know they are also anti-Semites as Mr. Celebi has been labled.

Abe Jacobs on February 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm

In the last two posts, Celebi apologist have described his movie as dreadful and tasteless, yet have no problems with the fact that he was so intimately involved in producing this garbage.
Abe Jacobs describes the movie as dreadful, and says nonchalantly that an organ harvesting Jew is what sells tickets in Turkey. Abe, what would it take to appall your senses: If the organ “broker” drank the blood of the Iraqis before sending their organs to New York and Tel Aviv?
David Grossman has issues with the fact that high ranking Turkish officials attended this “tasteless” movie in Turkey, yet he brushes aside Celebi’s producing role because he also played a minor, non-speaking role in the movie. Solid logic there David.
Neither of these two apologists’ posts rises to the level of absurdity of Joel Sprayragens’. Joel’s argument is that Celebi didn’t know what the movie was about and only recruited Hollywood actors for the movie. How does one co-own a company whose main purpose is to recruit actors without knowing what he’s recruiting them for? If Mr. Celebi is as good a businessman as Mr. Sprayragen portrays him to be, then he definitely would have known the details of the project he was working on.
Sprayragen’s most troubling statement in support of Celebi is “[t]he future of harmony with moderate Muslims lies with people like Mr. Celebi.”
Really? I guess radical Muslims are the ones that want to kill Americans and Jews, while moderate Muslims only want their organs.

Al Zine on February 29, 2008 at 7:47 pm

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Even the picture of the man you have on your website doesn’t belong to Celebi. You should be ashamed of yourself, and misinforming the public.

zeluhan on November 17, 2010 at 3:28 pm