I’ll allegedly d/l it from Grokster and review it 😉

KOAJaps on September 15, 2005 at 5:47 pm

In this movie, the U.S. is portrayed as a duplcitous rogue state, and, by extension, it shouldn’t have a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council. However, brutal Islamic/Communist dictarships like Sudan, Uganda, Sierra Leone, Togo, Syria, Algeria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Vietnam are allowed membership on the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. Human Rights!! Anyone who entertains the notion of Human Rights in those countries, even in their sleep, are subject to immediate imprisonment, torture, and execution!! What a JOKE!!
An even bigger joke is that the LIBERALS’ favorite global foreign policy body, the U.N., has become a bastion of the enemies of peace, freedom, liberty, and democracy – but, then again, LIBERALS, for the past 50 years, have been the enemies of peace, freedom, liberty, and democracy.
Along with Coffee Annan, his son (Kujo), and the rest of his turd-world cronies, the U.N. has morphed into the League of Nations, at best, – and has become the promoter of every rogue state that is the enemy of peace, freedom, liberty, and democracy, at worst (however, the latter seems to be the case).
Just as the U.N., LIBERAL politicians, and the fringe groups that make up the modern-day DemocRAT Party promote the destruction of peace, freedom, liberty, and democracy, Hollywood, too, strives to achieve these goals by making every anti-American movie possible (and, then, they wonder why movie attendance is at an all-time low).
There’s a reason why Hollyweird was infiltrated by the Communists in the 1950’s, and that it is still dominated by their ideological counterparts to this day.

Thee_Bruno on September 15, 2005 at 7:38 pm

What a shame Cage followed up the excellent “National Treasure” with this junk.
I’m predicting it will tank. I’ll go see “Wedding Crashers” again if I go to a movie.

The_Man on September 15, 2005 at 8:37 pm

Well, according to Thee_Bruno, I’m a commie rat. Funny thing though, the current administration is continuing on the legacy that Clinton, Bush Sr and as far back as Richard M. Nixon creatd by allowing trade with commuist China. It was also Bush who said that outsourcing jobs is good for the economy but isn’t it our money they are using to deflate the dollar by buying gold and Euro? Where the potential for a nuclear attack is imminent because they could afford to buy more parts to make bombs, keeping the borders open and calling the Minutemen a bunch of vigilanties? Allowing trucks to come up from Central America and bring their wares in as well as possible terrorists hitchhiking on the trucks, now according to the CIA, there may be 11 nuclear suitcase that came up by way of the Salvadorean gang MS-13 gang sneaking in terrorists? The Republican party. No the Neo cons and the Neo-Libs sold out America and are willing to kill us.
So, Thee-Bruno, I know your anger and understand it but at the same time, look into your political party and please explain why the Neo-Cons are doing the same as the Commie liberals? Because the Liberals and Conservatives of the past are no longer amongst us and all we’re doing is bickering amongst Americans.
Oh yeah, thank Wal-Mart and the rest of the supermarts for providing Communist China the endless funds they need to eventually kill us. I heard that on Matt Drudge…a Conservative

KOAJaps on September 16, 2005 at 12:34 am

Gee, KOAJaps, that was some rant. You spoke about everything from MS-13, to Wal-Mart, to Nixon, to China, and everything in between. The original subject, and my response, was about an inane flick called, Lord of War, and how the U.S. is portrayed in it as it relates to the U.N. (the U.N. is the LIBERAlS’ favorite, inept, corrupt, and counter-productive global foreign policy body ever to infect the planet. At least the League of Nations did the appropriate thing when they realized just how pathetic they were, and they put themselves out of their misery.)
But, since you brought it up, let’s talk about Bush. As I posted on an earlier thread on another subject, I said that I am very critical of him on many issues, namely; open borders, out-of-control spending, pandering to Islamofascists, and pondering amnesty for illegal invaders.
Now let’s talk about China’s threat to the U.S. and Clintoon’s role in it. During the 1992 presidential campaign, Bill Clintoon criticized G.W.H Bush’s relationship with China. After he won the presidency, Clintoon did his predecessor a few steps better by giving the Commies advanced ballistic missile guidance technology via Bernie Schwartz and Loral Corp. And, thanks to Clintoon, China also got access to top secret nuclear weapons data via his lackeys at Los Alamos. He also gave China advanced computer technology by turning the Commerce Department into his very own Wal-Mart (in the past, the State Department had final say over sensitive technology transfers to other countries – that policy was transferred to the Commerce Department under Clintoon as a way to finance the DemocRAT Party).
Speaking of the “evil” Wal-Mart (LIBERALS HATE Wal-Mart, BTW) and their access to cheap goods, may I remind you that it was Clintoon who signed NAFTA into law, and it was Clintoon who advanced trade with China (one Chinese government official even went so far as to say “We love your president and we want to see him re-elected”).
As far as the CIA’s claim that 11 nuclear suitcases arrived here via MS-13, well, there’s just no proof to that. BTW, don’t all LIBERALS hate the CIA for bungling the intelligence about Iraq’s WMD program? If they couldn’t get THAT straight, what makes you so sure they’re getting THIS straight? You can’t have it both ways. (BTW, I never heard the CIA ever mention such a thing about the suitcases and MS-13).
Just a brief note on MS-13 – I don’t see what you have against them. I thought all LIBERALS were for open borders, illegal immigration, diversity, and multi-culturalism. After all, that’s what’s supposed to make America stronger.

Thee_Bruno on September 16, 2005 at 8:25 am

Clinton was a bad and evil president. I agree. That’s why I hated NAFTA and now CAFTA. Clinton bashing Bush senior was a ploy for election, It’s funny how they’re both close buddies now. It was a ploy from the beginning.
As for Wal Mart? Cheap-priced goods are great! But why should I spend my hard-earned money (well not really hard earned) to a country who will make even more money so that they can make WMDs?
The WMDs are in China Mr Bush
Also, about the WMDs? Iran is an Axis of Evil, right? And we’re going to bomb the Hell out of them. But if we are, can you then explain why Halliburton is doing business in Iraq?
About the MS-13 and suitcase nukes? This is from a respected conservative newspaper

[Just a brief note on MS-13 – I don’t see what you have against them. I thought all LIBERALS were for open borders, illegal immigration, diversity, and multi-culturalism. After all, that’s what’s supposed to make America stronger.]
That’s where stereotypes and reality clash. I am pro-death penalty and pro-choice. I am also pro-guns too. I am also pro privacy too but I would like to see the military guard our borders like they did in Iraq.
As for the movie? I’m not going to watch it…or at least pay for it…LOL..

KOAJaps on September 16, 2005 at 11:48 am

Hey, KOAJaps, not bad.
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of BJ Clintoon, especially the “ploy”, as you put it, regarding the 1992 election. The bastard campaigned as a moderate, but governed as a liberal (except where he was forced by the Republican Congress during the ’96 election – and for political expediency – and signed into law Welfare reform, balanced budgets, and some moderate tax cuts).
I also agree with you about China. I believe they are a threat to our very existence in the near and long-term. I’m not happy about the balance of trade we have with those Godless savages, but, this detente crap goes back to Nixon (as you pointed out), and has, sadly, only accelerated since.
I, too, am not happy with NAFTA and CAFTA. Since the former was signed into law, every single turd-world invader from Mexico with the will and the means has crossed our border. It seems as if NAFTA didn’t do too much to improve their lot in life, as was intended. We lost jobs to Mexico, but we lost them for a reason – rather than paying American workers decent wages with benefits, the companies that moved there pay the Mexicans the prevailing Mexican wage, which is, two pesos a day and a stale tortilla. There’s a reason why they’re still coming here illegally in droves.
As far as the nuke suitcases being smuggled into the U.S., I’m still not convinced. Sure, it may be all too possible and probable, and I’m very concerned about it, but for Joe Farah to quote a former FBI consultant (who’s pushing his upcoming book on the topic) saying that he knows that ex-CIA Director Tenet said as much to Bush is, in my mind, a stretch. How would he know such a thing, and why haven’t we heard more about it? That said, I certainly hope that the 7th century barbarians DON’T have them, because they WILL use them.
As far as Haliburton is concerned, Slick Willie used Haliburton EXTENSIVELY during his reign of terror while in office. He did so because they are really the only company capable of getting the types of jobs done around all parts of the globe that need to be done.
As far as that asinine movie is concerned, I won’t watch it for free. Anyway, Nicholas Cage is not a great actor. If it wasn’t for his uncle, Francis Ford Coppola, you wouldn’t see his horseface anywhere.
KOAJaps, I guess you aren’t your typical died-in-the-wool, yellow-dog LIBERAL, after all.
LOL

Thee_Bruno on September 17, 2005 at 4:15 pm

Nope Thee-Bruno. After hearing Alex Jones, whom I thought was your typical right-winged-Fox-network-loving-Conservative, he set me straight on Bush. I realized that both parties have their corrupt agenda and we’re going to get it in the “A” without K.Y.

KOAJaps on September 18, 2005 at 12:13 am

Um, four of the top five arms exporting countries are indeed permanent members of the UN Security Council, so if that’s what the film implies (haven’t seen it myself) it’s entirely accurate. (see http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/52179.pdf ).

Scott Gearity on September 19, 2005 at 12:21 pm

Um, Scott:
None of us–certainly not me–said otherwise.

Debbie Schlussel on September 19, 2005 at 3:06 pm

Because it’s so hard to believe that multinational, US-based corporations would be selling arms illegally to repulsive states around the globe. Sheesh, Debbie, get over it.

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