Ben Stein on one of those Saturday morning finance shout down shows this past Saturday (but I do love them) (do wish they’d talk one at a time)said that Hollywood given two identically marketable, money making scripts will opt for the one that would be anti-religion, anti-(fill in the blank). Very similar to what you’re saying here. Hooray, for Hollywood. Sure ain’t your father’s Hollywood.

John Cunningham on December 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Debbie-
No surprise here. Movie based on Upton Sinclair novel.
Sinclair, of course, was uber-socialist (really a commie, but bios are too polite to say this) and foaming at the mouth atheist.
Among other things, he was one of the idiots who proclaimed the innocence of the obviously guilty Sacco and Vanzetti–I presume because they were anarchists. Some claim he knew they were guilty when he wrote his book defending them.
All in all a real piece of dreck and thus loved by Hollywood and the Left.

Red Ryder on December 10, 2007 at 3:26 pm

Debbie, you are a friend of Christians everywhere!
Wherever Hollywood slams ChristiansÖ they are never accurate and their thinly veiled contempt is apparent to all, even to outsiders like Debbie.
Why CATHOLICS and EVANGELICALS tolerate these “potshots”, I’ll never know.
Organize and crush themÖ their outlets of hate and intolerance which in this case is a particular movie!
BOYCOTT them! Boycott the production house’s future movies. Cripple them financially.
I don’t purchase Sony products because as a business they sponsor tennis events that discriminate against Jews. So they’ve lost me as a customer TILL I see a change!
IF YOU CAN’T fight back CHRISTIAN CARICATURISM (exaggerated and negative depictions of Christians in movies and mediañmy term) out of love for GodÖ then your faith is truly dead!
MOTHER TERESA said the Church needs fighters.
Not roll-oversÖ losersÖ
Start fighting!
Now, more than ever brothersñ

The Canadien on December 10, 2007 at 6:28 pm

I suppose it’s a backhanded compliment. The people who make these movies know that they will br praised to the skies by critics and cohorts alike, even for a piece of unwatchable tripe like LAST TEMPTATION. In addition, they can bask in their own “courage” for taking on the EEEEEE-vil Christian Right.
We Christians will grumble about it; very few of us will see it; and if it gets enough publicity a small boycott might result, which will impel controversy-seekers to go seek it out.
However, to paraphrase Sherlock Holmes, what will be remarkable is what the dog DOESN’T do in the night time.
Those who post (even on this site) equating Christianity with the Religion of Peace (TM) would do well to take note of the NON-reaction. My prediction on the number of fatwas, riots, and assassinations this thing causes: ZERO.

DocLiberty on December 10, 2007 at 7:06 pm

Thank you. I’ve long noticed that you point out prejudice, whether it hits Jews, Christians, or other religions. Sad to say, few Christian sites are as vigilant in ferreting out the anti-Christian biases of the movies.

Linda F on December 11, 2007 at 8:41 am

The internet gives Christians and Jews a voice that they have not had in quite some time. We are slammed for our beliefs over and over again. How dare we have standards? You have these liberals on tv and the big screen with the million dollar budgets and puppets in the news media patting them on the back for the courageous assaults on religion. Whenever a Christian or Jew who practices what they preach gets on a network, they are torn down from all sides for being close-minded and bigoted for actually standing for something. While they will parade the leaders of the newest cult for people who worship the rock god and sacrifice lab rats to appease its needs around like a champion, due to the Religious right infringing on his right somehow to practice his religion. It has driven me away from television shows, the theatre and most of the news networks. They keep flooding us with propaganda films to brainwash us into their “open-minded” way of thinking.

Ford Jones on December 11, 2007 at 9:35 am

You people need to reign in your paranoia.

No Pasaran! on December 11, 2007 at 11:04 am

Pasaran. There comes a point in time when enough is enough. You get sick of being undermined everywhere you turn. You have two things that you can do. You can sit back and take it OR you can call a spade a spade. Just because bashing the religious right is politically correct, doesn’t mean we are going to continue to take it. What would happen if someone made a movie attacking say homosexuality? You wouldn’t be able to shut rosie, ellen and all those liberals up. I doubt you would have anyone telling them to reign in their paranoia.

Ford Jones on December 11, 2007 at 11:17 am

Oh puhr-leaze, the poor oppressed white christians of America. That’s bollocks and you know it.
The reason the religious right is being ‘bashed’ is that the world has moved on, your time of power and influence has come and gone. People have seen what conservative fundamentalist Islam brings, and they don’t want any part of conservative and fundamentalist religion.
Anyway, why are you wasting time here? Shouldn’t you be at home preparing for ‘the rapture’? 😉

No Pasaran! on December 11, 2007 at 4:53 pm

I must say, I’m impressed with No Parasan — it took something to post this AFTER I mocked his ilk above.

DocLiberty on December 11, 2007 at 8:44 pm

Why do they slam Christianity? Why do liberals seem to tear down everything that is good, successful and right and and elevate everything that is evil, failed and wrong?
It’s a philosophy. Evan Sayet explains it in this video called “How Modern Liberals Think”. His theory pretty much explains everything about liberals. (He calls them “Modern Liberals” to distinguish them from the liberals of the past who seemed to be on the same side as the rest of us.)
Find some quiet time and don’t be afraid to rewind it as you are watching it to pick things up. I’ve watched parts of it many times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c
I think one feels the same as when figuring out the hidden image in those Magic Eye images – the theory is that good. You’ll start to see the patterns of this Modern Liberalism everywhere.
Enjoy.

Al on December 11, 2007 at 11:30 pm

“Why do they slam Christianity? Why do liberals seem to tear down everything that is good, successful and right and and elevate everything that is evil, failed and wrong?”
Well, not being a Liberal I can’t speak for them, but I slam Christianity just as much as I slam Islam – because like all religions it is completely idiotic. There is nothing ‘good, successful and right’ about any religion.
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“I must say, I’m impressed with No Parasan — it took something to post this AFTER I mocked his ilk above.”
You call that ‘mocking’ ?
Do you expect we would run away and hide (under a bushel!) from such a limp-wristed assault? Being ‘mocked’ by you is like being savaged by a dead halibut.
Christianity and Islam are the two most alike of any major belief systems, what separates them is minor details of emphasis. People like the evangelical-Right and Osamah bin laden have much in common, look at his homophobia, xenophobia, opposition to abortion, and hatred of Godless commumists. On social issues you could hardly fit a cigarette paper between his views and those of the average christian-right evangelist.

No Pasaran! on December 12, 2007 at 2:27 am

“Do you expect we would run away and hide?”
First, who is this “we” you’re referrig to? The royal we? The we of multiple personalities?
Anyway, as I said, NP, I’m impressed. It’s two days after the original review and, if “you could hardly fit a cigarette paper” between Islam and Christianity, Mr. Lewis should’ve been assassinated by now, Bel Air and Beverly Hills should be under siege, and every major American city should be ablaze — and yet, they’re NOT. Nor will they be when the movie is released.
Of course, you know that, but I am impressed that your own level of hate drove you to post your “conservative and fundamentalist religion” Islam=Christianity drivel AFTER I called attention to the clearest indicator that they are not. Nor, for that matter, are Judaism and Islam.
(As a side note, I should mention that the term “fundamentalist” properly used means a particular strain of solely Christian thought, and that it makes no more sense to refer to someone as a fundamentalist Muslim than it does to call someone a Sunni Catholic. Not that NP cares, but some other readers might be interested.)
“Christianity and Islam are the two most alike of any major belief systems, what separates them is minor details of emphasis.”
There are two possibilities here: you really mean this, which means you display a level of ignorance that would make Paris Hilton blush, or your’re just a troll. I lean toward the latter theory.
That’s Ok — Jesus loves even you. Merry Christmas!

DocLiberty on December 12, 2007 at 10:37 am

No Pasaran! Thatís a laugh!
You mean to tell me that there was actually some fictional time in history when the French didnít allow their enemy to pass? The French fell rather quickly to the Nazis and even quicker to atheism. Any nation that trades in itsí Catholicism for the freebee card of ìnothingî deserves the ìcircusî it gets.
In the case of France, thatís Islam.
France thinks itís the jewel of Europe when really theyíre the jokeñ
We see those images of Muslim youth rioting in France, over hereÖ and we wonder why the French just never seem to take a stand against anybody.
If La France ever had a soul, it was purchased by Arab money long ago.
You abort your French fetuses and the divine judgment against you is an increase in foreigners, gleefully that Islamic crowd, who will populate your country and overrun your culture.
The French are no longer Catholic co-creators observing the ancient command by God to ì go forth and multiply, but have become weird, atheistic masturbators who leave their ìspunkî in barren and callous wombs.
In the Great Book, children are only ever described as being a blessing, but Europeans have inverted the divine affirmation and have made children a curse.
And while you sneer at the ìEvangelicalsî who are certainly wrong about the Rapture, since the Book of Revelation has already ìoccurredî in the primary sense and ìis aboutî the Church replacing the synagogue for the New Covenant, you too have certainly missed the mark.
One from they ìwho allow all to passî, should avoid commentary about religion.
Equating Christianity with Islam defines you has someone indifferent to known and observable facts. And as someone unable to differentiate, and therefore quite given to discriminate.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
You.

The Canadien on December 12, 2007 at 1:13 pm

“Anyway, as I said, NP, I’m impressed. It’s two days after the original review and, if “you could hardly fit a cigarette paper” between Islam and Christianity, Mr. Lewis should’ve been assassinated by now, Bel Air and Beverly Hills should be under siege, and every major American city should be ablaze — and yet, they’re NOT. Nor will they be when the movie is released.”
Oh grow up.
If you want to define Islam only by its nuttiest followers that gives me the right to define Christianity by the actions of the KKK, Adolf Hitler, or the people who bomb abortion clinics, or those who attempted to blow up the Al Aqsa mosque in an attempt to trigger ‘The Rapture’. Do you really want to go down the route? Fine by me.
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“Of course, you know that, but I am impressed that your own level of hate drove you to post your “conservative and fundamentalist religion” Islam=Christianity drivel AFTER I called attention to the clearest indicator that they are not. “Nor, for that matter, are Judaism and Islam.”
Actually you drew attention only to your own bigotry – nothing else. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists, their views and mind-set are much the same, the particular religion they choose to hang their odious views on is largely irrelevant. Look at the basic tenants of Christianity and Islam they are the same.
Islam is simply 500 years younger than Christianity, and is in developmental terms a truculent 13 year old. Look at Christianity 500 years ago and comapre with islam of today, teh similarities are startling. Crusades/Jihad Papal Edicts/Spanish Inquisition/Fatwahs etc etc It’s all the same stuff.
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(As a side note, I should mention that the term “fundamentalist” properly used means a particular strain of solely Christian thought, and that it makes no more sense to refer to someone as a fundamentalist Muslim than it does to call someone a Sunni Catholic. Not that NP cares, but some other readers might be interested.)
As a side note that is total, total, total bollocks.
I don;t suppose you plan to back up this idiotic statement with anything approaching ‘proof’ are you?
FUNDAMENTALISM: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
Is what my dictionary says.
You make this stuff up as you go along, don’t you?
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“Christianity and Islam are the two most alike of any major belief systems, what separates them is minor details of emphasis.”
There are two possibilities here: you really mean this, which means you display a level of ignorance that would make Paris Hilton blush, or your’re just a troll. I lean toward the latter theory.”
You can always tell the moment when a rightist senses that he is losing an argument; he resorts to ad hominem attacks, rather than actual debate.
**
“That’s Ok — Jesus loves even you. Merry Christmas!”
I promise you, he doesn’t.

No Pasaran! on December 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm

“No Pasaran! Thatís a laugh!”
Thanks, I have my moments.
**
“You mean to tell me that there was actually some fictional time in history when the French didnít allow their enemy to pass? The French fell rather quickly to the Nazis and even quicker to atheism. Any nation that trades in itsí Catholicism for the freebee card of ìnothingî deserves the ìcircusî it gets.”
France? France?? What has France got to do with this debate? What are you talking about?
**
“In the case of France, thatís Islam.France thinks itís the jewel of Europe when really theyíre the jokeñ”
Does anyone understand what this mumpty is talking about?
**
“We see those images of Muslim youth rioting in France, over hereÖ and we wonder why the French just never seem to take a stand against anybody.”
Well leaving aside the 1.2 million Free French soldiers (including 200,000 Muslims) who helped liberated Europe in WW2, your other problem is that those kids rioting in Paris are of every religious persuasion and skin colour known to man. They are not Muslim riots they are riots of the dissposessed.
The heroic struggle of the kids in the Banlieus is not religious warfare it is class warfare.
**
“If La France ever had a soul, it was purchased by Arab money long ago.”
Riiiiight, what ever you say buddy.
**
“You abort your French fetuses and the divine judgment against you is an increase in foreigners, gleefully that Islamic crowd, who will populate your country and overrun your culture.”
So let me get this straight, you are saying that the 4% of the French population that is Muslim is going to over-run the 96% that aren’t (?)
Did they not teach basic arithmetic when you went to school??
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“The French are no longer Catholic co-creators observing the ancient command by God to ì go forth and multiply, but have become weird, atheistic masturbators who leave their ìspunkî in barren and callous wombs.”
You’re a touch disturbed, aren’t you Canadien friend?
I think maybe you need to see about having your medication increased. Sooner rather than later, if I was you.
**
“In the Great Book, children are only ever described as being a blessing, but Europeans have inverted the divine affirmation and have made children a curse.”
That’s odd, because I remember reading a passage of the bible that says that it’s ok to rape and murder slaves and the children of your enemies.
But anyway, European children are a curse hey? Who knew?
I must remember to mention that to my kids when they wake up.
**
“And while you sneer at the ìEvangelicalsî who are certainly wrong about the Rapture, since the Book of Revelation has already ìoccurredî in the primary sense and ìis aboutî the Church replacing the synagogue for the New Covenant, you too have certainly missed the mark.”
Well if the Evangelicals are wrong, how could I have ‘missed the mark’ by criticizing them?
**
“One from they ìwho allow all to passî, should avoid commentary about religion.”
Well no, sorry. I intend to comment on anything I damn well please, and I won’t allow bigots like you to stop me. Mind you, it’s easy for me because I live in a democracy. You should try it some time
**
“Equating Christianity with Islam defines you has someone indifferent to known and observable facts.”
Facts?? What do you know about facts? clearly not very much, all your posts have been startlingly fact-free up till now.
**
” And as someone unable to differentiate, and therefore quite given to discriminate.”
I differentiate between reason, rationality, science on one hand, and your mysticism, irrationality and anti-science on the other.
**
“Pot. Kettle. Black.
You.”
Bigot. Disturbed. Ignorant.
You

No Pasaran! on December 12, 2007 at 3:32 pm

NP: “Oh grow up.”
Those who object to ad hominems should not indulge in them.
NP: ìIf you want to define Islam only by its nuttiest followers that gives me the right to define Christianity by Adolf Hitlerî
Hitler was no Christian. See, for example, Hitler’s Table Talk 1941-1944: Secret Conversations by H. R. Trevor-Roper and Gerhard L. Weinberg.
NP: ìLook at the basic tenants of Christianity and Islam they are the same.î
The basic ìtenantî of Christianity is, Jesus Christ is the Son of G-d (YHWH). The basic ìtenantî of Islam is, “There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet.”
DL: (As a side note, I should mention that the term “fundamentalist” properly used means a particular strain of solely Christian thought, and that it makes no more sense to refer to someone as a fundamentalist Muslim than it does to call someone a Sunni Catholic. Not that NP cares, but some other readers might be interested.)
NP: As a side note that is total, total, total bollocks. I don;t suppose you plan to back up this idiotic statement with anything approaching ‘proof’ are you?î
Hereís the reference from Amazon:
The Fundamentals
Book Description: ìFirst published as a four volume set in 1909, The Fundamentals is now available in this beautiful and accessible two volume set. This remarkable defense and survey of classic Christian thought profoundly influenced Christian thinking in conservative circles for the whole of the twentieth century. This edition of Torrey’s work is the original, unabridged text, featuring 100 articles authored by leading scholars including B. B. Warfield, James Orr, G. Campbell Morgan, Charles Erdman, H. C. G. Moule, and Bishop Ryle.î
Product Details: Hardcover: 1480 pages; Publisher: Baker Books (August 1, 2003); Language: English; ISBN-10: 0801012643; ISBN-13: 978-0801012648
In other words, I don’t make it up, and you need a better dictionary.
NP: “Christianity and Islam are the two most alike of any major belief systems, what separates them is minor details of emphasis.”
DL: There are two possibilities here: you really mean this, which means you display a level of ignorance that would make Paris Hilton blush, or your’re just a troll. I lean toward the latter theory.”
NP: ìYou can always tell the moment when a rightist senses that he is losing an argument; he resorts to ad hominem attacks, rather than actual debate.î
Actually, Iíll admit an error here. Youíre not a troll, you just have a level of ignorance that would make Paris Hilton blush.
DL: “That’s Ok — Jesus loves even you. Merry Christmas!”
NP: ìI promise you, he doesn’t.î
Yes He does. Merry Christmas again ñ and get back to us when youíve finished reading all 1980 pages of my proof, OK?

DocLiberty on December 12, 2007 at 5:54 pm

ìHitler was no Christian.î
Oh dear, youíre wrong yet again.
From Hitlerís Biographer, John Toland;
ì”Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of god. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of godÖ” Hitlerís Germany amalgamated state with church. Soldiers of the Wermacht wore belt buckles inscribed with the following: “Gott mit uns” (God is with us”).
Hitler quoted in Mein Kampf;
“Ö I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lordís work.”
Hitler in a letter to General Erhart Engel:
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.”
From John Patrick Murphey 1998.
ìWehrmacht troops were often sprinkled with holy water by the priests. It was a real Christian country whose citizens were indoctrinated by both state and church to blindly follow all authority figures, political and ecclesiastical. Hitler, like some of todayís politicians and preachers, politicized “family values.” He liked corporal punishment in home and in school. Jesus prayers became mandatory in all schools under his administration. While abortion was illegal in pre-Hitler Germany he took it to new depths of enforcement, requiring all doctors to report to the government the circumstances of all miscarriages. He openly despised homosexuality and criminalized it. If past is prologue we know what to expect if liberty becomes license.î
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Quote DocLiberty.
ìAs a side note, I should mention that the term “fundamentalist” properly used means a particular strain of solely Christian thought, and that it makes no more sense to refer to someone as a fundamentalist Muslim than it does to call someone a Sunni Catholic. Not that NP cares, but some other readers might be interested.î
Oh dear, wrong yet again.
Merriam-Webster dictionary
Fundamentalism: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
dictionary.com
Fundamentalism: strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
Farlex Dictionary
Fundamentalism: A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.
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So, you are batting 00:00 on this thread so far, thatís not good.
Do better.

No Pasaran! on December 13, 2007 at 4:20 am

“So, you are batting 00:00 on this thread so far, thatís not good”
Not that you’re likely to read this, but would you at least address the 2,730 pages of evidence I’ve given for my views?
I’ll help: to support your attempt to hang Hitler on Christianity, you could argue “A politician’s public pronouncements are much more indicative of his true feelings than four years of private conversations with his most intimate associates.”
It’s easy to claim a hitter is batting .000 against you (the proper expression, BTW) when you refuse to pitch to him.

DocLiberty on December 13, 2007 at 9:08 am

Docy.
Clearly you are not the shiniest apple on the tree, so let me explain this in simple terms that even you can understand.
1. Linking to a 1480 page book on the Amazon book-selling site does not constitute “posting 2,730 pages of evidence”.
2. Every dictionary in the world says that you are wrong about Fundamentalism.
3. Hitler’s Christianity is widely discussed in the most scholarly of Hitler’s biographies. You take your evidence from Christian nut-cases, I take mine from peer-reviewed scholars.
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QUOTE: Doclib: “It’s easy to claim a hitter is batting .000 against you (the proper expression, BTW)…”
Clearly you have no understanding of cricket whatsoever, but as usual you have the temerity to tell ME what is the correct useage. How typical of you, mouthing off about something you are clueless about whilst claiming expert knowledge.

No Pasaran! on December 13, 2007 at 12:08 pm

NP: “1. Linking to a 1480 page book on the Amazon book-selling site does not constitute “posting 2,730 pages of evidence”.”
I said, “I’ve given,” not “I’ve posted.” I listed two books which total 2730 pages. And It’s relatively easy to win arguments when you change what the opponent says, then attack that.
NP: “2. Every dictionary in the world says that you are wrong about Fundamentalism.”
Seting aside the absurd claim that you’ve even SEEN “eve3ry dictionary in the world,” here is the Oxford English Dictionary’s PRIMARY definition:
a. A religious movement, which orig. became active among various Protestant bodies in the United States after the war of 1914-1918, based on strict adherence to certain tenets (e.g. the literal inerrancy of Scripture) held to be fundamental to the Christian faith; the beliefs of this movement; opp. liberalism and modernism.”
Now, in the spirit of Christmas generosity, I will concede that the MIS-use of the word from its original meaning has gained common currency, as the OED’s secondary definition notes:
“b. In other religions, esp. Islam, a similarly strict adherence to ancient or fundamental doctrines, with no concessions to modern developments in thought or customs.”
But let’s not pretend it didn’t start as a specifically Christian term, and that it wasn’t hijacked to mean what you want it to mean, and that it didn’t begin with THE FUNDAMENTALS.
“3. Hitler’s Christianity is widely discussed in the most scholarly of Hitler’s biographies. You take your evidence from Christian nut-cases, I take mine from peer-reviewed scholars.”
Trevor-Roper, the first author of the book on Hitler I cite, was an author of over 20 scholarly books (including the one I cited) and a Master at Peterhouse, Cambridge. (Perhaps you’ve heard of the institution.) Weinhard, the second author, has a dozen scholarly books to his credit and is Professor Emeritus of history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
So, to sum up, you claimed every dictionary in the world proves me wrong about fundamentalism — they don’t; you claimed I don’t cite peer reviewed scholars for my claims — I did; and you claimed I mouthed off about cricket while being clueless about it. I AM clueless about cricket, but I have never claimed or, frankly, desired any familiarity with your sport. I thought it was a typo in a baseball reference.
Merry Christmas!

DocLiberty on December 13, 2007 at 4:33 pm

> ìFrance? France?? What has France got to do with this debate? What are you talking about?î
Pasaran!, references to France were included because I thought you were a part of that French blogging conglomerate with the same namesake.
As it turns outÖ youíre not even a cheap imitation.
Differentiate yourself with an ORIGINAL moniker, next time, brother. Be creative.
> ìWell if the Evangelicals are wrong, how could I have ‘missed the mark’ by criticizing them?î
Easy. In the grand scheme of things the Evangels are closer to the Truth than you are, but your lack of honest introspection blinds you to even that lesser truth.
> ìThe reason the religious right is being ‘bashed’ is that the world has moved on, your time of power and influence has come and gone.î
Nope. Our time is yet to come. We are from that eternal kingdom. It doesnít end for us here, pagan.
So enjoy this short life Pas, Itís all you have.
And as Jeremiah said,î ëThe parents have eaten sour grapes, and the childrenís teeth are set on edgeî.
Sadly, youíll likely doom your kids to the same fate.
So, not only will you descend to hell, but youíll be taking your kids, kicking and screaming, with you.

The Canadien on December 13, 2007 at 6:38 pm

“Pasaran!, references to France were included because I thought you were a part of that French blogging conglomerate with the same namesake.”
Your as dumb as a post, aren’t you? Learn your Spanish Civil-War history, man.
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“Differentiate yourself with an ORIGINAL moniker, next time, brother. Be creative.”
I’m not your brother.
Don’t you ever DARE use that word in relation to me again.
**
“Easy. In the grand scheme of things the Evangels are closer to the Truth than you are, but your lack of honest introspection blinds you to even that lesser truth.”
Riiight, so because I disagree with you I “lack honest introspection.”
So let’s see,
arrogant – check
bigoted – check
judgemental – check
Yep, you’re a christian all right.
**
“Nope. Our time is yet to come. We are from that eternal kingdom. It doesnít end for us here, pagan.”
I’m not a pagan dimbulb, I’m an atheist.
**
“So enjoy this short life Pas, Itís all you have.”
I completely agree.
**
“And as Jeremiah said,î ëThe parents have eaten sour grapes, and the childrenís teeth are set on edgeî
Whatever.
**
“Sadly, youíll likely doom your kids to the same fate.”
Whatever my kids fate is, at least they are not condemned to sharing their lives with an odious mean-spirited little bigot like you.
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“So, not only will you descend to hell, but youíll be taking your kids, kicking and screaming, with you.”
Well if it meant not having to share eternity with the likes of you, it would be entirely worth it.

No Pasaran! on December 14, 2007 at 10:54 am

Canadien, look at this graphic – it looks like my little family might be safer in hell than the other place.
http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/god-v-satan.png

No Pasaran! on December 15, 2007 at 1:03 pm

I love that the movie is seemingly anti-christian because of the fact that the director paul tomas anderson made Magnolia which was a very pro-christan movie

Jesus on April 26, 2013 at 8:42 am