I hope someone does something. Imagine the five percent going to Al Quaeda?

KOAJaps on September 9, 2005 at 11:52 pm

Debbie, it’s one thing when you expose some Arab-American organization or a mosque to have connections to a terrorist group, but you I don’t see that here. It is wrong for these guys to be ripping off customers, but why make the point that they are Arabs?
In this case, it really does sound like you’re a bigot. I and you would both be really really outraged if someone did a blog like this about a Jewish gas station owner. What does ethnicity have to do with ripping off customers? Now if you told me that these guys are passing off the “profits” to Hamas or something, I’d respect this story more.

hairymon on September 10, 2005 at 12:30 am

Hairymon, maybe she’s working on it. There’s a story going around and a talkshow host named Alex Jones is looking into allegations that Lake Pontchartrain may have been blown up. Imagine if it were terrorists? Alex is not saying yes it is but is investigating it as we speak. So yup, Deb is doing the same and she’s posting what she knows. And what makes this a story of interests is:
” Two Arab gas station owners, Nabil and Samir Dawood, were charged with ripping off customers, rigging the pumps at their station to deliver less than what was paid for–by about 5% of each gas sale.” <—They were charged.
As for your comment:
“you would both be really really outraged if someone did a blog like this about a Jewish gas station owner.”
She never said Muslims. What happens if the owners were Jews? Are there not Arab Jews? I’m a non-practicing Asian American Christian, is that an oxymoron?

KOAJaps on September 10, 2005 at 11:37 am

hairymon: I thought my reason for posting this was clear–as KOAJaps got it immediately with his question, and you alluded to it in your post. Since you did not get it, I’ve amended the post. Arab gas stations in Michigan committed this scam in the ’80s in Michigan, and the money went to Islamic terrorists. FYI, the American Arab Chamber of Commerce states that Arabs own about 90% or more of the gas stations in Michigan. There are no Jewish owned gas stations, but if there were, and they were doing this, I would raise the same questions if there was a past history of funding terror. That is my pattern. For example, Abu Moskowitz and Michael Chertoff, of both of whom I’ve been an unabashed critic, are Jewish.
Debbie

Debbie Schlussel on September 10, 2005 at 10:27 pm

Deb, it’s understandable how people can be confused by the comments you write. Most think that a Jew is an ethnicity and not a religion. There are some who are even more surprised that there are Muslim Israeli. One such person who was born in Israel was accused of a terrorist plot by the Moussad. Also, there are Palestinian Jews living in Israel. When people think of Jews, they think of the blond-haired-blue eyed-European like your relatives or Russian Jew. Yet go all the way back to Abraham’s and King David’s times, then one realizes that they were of “Asian ” descent. The problem here is: Schooling. Our educational system failed Americans and the basic geography classes from K-12 lack what children in Israel or even Muslim countries like Egypt (Africa) know more than we do. So keep in my my lovely flower in the lonely hot desert that there are many who don’t realize that the Jews in Germany during WW1 fought with Germany.
One question though and it’s off topic, if Germany didn’t kill the Jews, do you think the Jews would have been our enemy?

KOAJaps on September 11, 2005 at 12:59 am

Debbie, it is nice to see that you edited the article, now I do understand.
I don’t remember the blog entry, but I remember someone commenting/claiming that you are “unabashedly pro-Jewish” and I joked (but was making a point too) that indeed you have complete integrity in calling a spade a spade by not unabashedly defending Abu Moskowitz or Jason Alexander or (just today) the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Detroit (again, in my opinion that was one of the best blog entries you’ve done here!). I understand why you’d note that again here, but I still thought it funny.
KOAJaps, I find it interesting that many
non-Europeans think of Jews stereotypically as “blond haired blue eyed” (many Palestinian oriented hate sites say this as a way of claiming that Jews are Europeans not “native” to Israel), yet most Europeans and especially neo-Nazi hate sites/groups stereotype the exact reverse regarding Jews, that all Ashkenazi Jews have stereotypical “Near Eastern” features like dark, curly hair and olive-to-swarthy skin tone.
In reality KOAJaps, I think the two “stereotypes” fall in between somewhere. What I find from observing myself (blue eyes, light skin, but jet black hair) and my family and others is that there are Jews with blond hair and blue eyes, but certainly not at the frequency of Scandinavians. And yet, I see many American Jews of European extraction with the stereotypical “Middle Eastern” features described above. Often, I see this contrast within the same immediate family. My father had blondish hair and blue eyes, yet his brother was the spitting image of Jordan’s King Hussein.

hairymon on September 13, 2005 at 10:03 pm