I don’t plan on flying again……I hope the airlines all go tits-up!

#1 Vato on November 18, 2010 at 5:38 pm

LOL! Love the brit slang! But very seriously, damn Americans better wake the eff up. The creeping incrementalism of violating our freedoms has GOT TO STOP. It will NOT stop if yanks here just keep wanting conveeeeeenience in lieu of fighting for our liberties. I mean it. It’s getting to the breaking point.

The ennui and the lack of care really bothers me. Glenn Beck has highlighted so many of the sneaky machinations of what this Govt is up to but I daresay it is hard for peeps to pay attention to him because he is so bloody maudlin, is selling his 99th billion book (which gives him the appearance of being $$$ motivated) and his religiousity has turned people off (I don’t care about his religious stuff…I just wanna hear the good guts about what the hell is happening). There is need for more credible characters to highlight these things (and being that there are claims that he has taken credit when other journalists have done the work)so people don’t think it’s conspiracy stuff.

It’s very hard today to navigate through what the truth is these days (I hear conservatives singing the praises of Darrell Issa (because he is spearheading some investigations), not knowing how he is blind to Jihad. Ditto for Norquist on taxes.

I do know that those who HAVE been paying attention the last two years (and of course before that) it’s easy to see that something stinks here in America. People are taking their freedoms and liberties for granted…they shouldn’t. When it is too late, all these Americans will wonder how they could have been so blind.

Skunky on November 18, 2010 at 6:09 pm

You know what, FIRE Janet Napolitano’s sorry ass right now! Remember folks, it was this stupid witch who said a year-&-half ago said that the only terrorist in this country are those of us who oppose Obama’s radical communist policies, love this country, returning military veterans, etc. I can go on and on about Napolitano, but as Benjamin Franklin clearly said:

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

And Franklin was right when mentioned that quote in his day. And I am not planning on doing any type of travelling in the near future, and I am NOT going to fly again when they get rid of this policy.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on November 18, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Screw the airlines. They deserve every bit of pain I can inflict by NEVER flying again. I guarantee you I WILL NEVER GET ON AN AMERICAN AIR FLIGHT EVER AGAIN

Jack on November 18, 2010 at 11:24 pm

TSA’s searches now absolve the airlines of all liability. Of course they will pay the price when people revolt, as they should have done long ago. I am more than intrigued that Muslims demand more courteous treatment because they are so special. Like it is not Muslims who are the terrorists.

pat on November 19, 2010 at 1:02 am

Muslims get special treatment cuz we’re told they have special “modesty” requirements.

Its all hokum – that’s used to justify the molestation of American men, women and children.

NormanF on November 19, 2010 at 2:22 am

All is not lost. Contact your Congressman or Congresswoman and tell him or her to support and vote yes in favor of H.R. 6416 – The American Traveler Dignity Act which was introduced by Rep. Ron Paul – see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-N5adYM7Kw
and
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1796%3Aintroducing-the-air-traveler-dignity-act&catid=16%3Aspeeches&Itemid=1
and

ramjordan on November 19, 2010 at 3:42 am

These back-scatter X-ray and microwave scanners have been brought out much too soon to suit me.
We just don’t know the long-term effects of continual or repeated exposures.
Eyes are especially very sensitive to microwave radiation.

I’ll give the market about another week and some entrepreneur will be coming out with Scan-Proof Under-Garments…..Watch for them !!!
I wonder what the TSA will do then ???

Shootist on November 19, 2010 at 7:55 am

Airport searches should be 100% against the people who commit terrorist acts Muslims.

madman on November 19, 2010 at 7:56 am

I don’t know who is more insane, the crazy satanic bastards that are trying to kill us or our government.

Rick on November 19, 2010 at 9:38 am

Remember who their enemy is, and it’s not the muslim terrorists. It’s returning veterans, constitutionalists, third party members (what’s that tell you about the Republican Party?) Threepers, Oath Keepers, gun owners and Bible believers, and anyone who resists groping by the TSA.

Avi on November 19, 2010 at 10:09 am

Can you imagine the outcry if this was the Bush administration?

I don’t fly, but at least as a compromise they should hire all women to do the searches….if you get my drift.

Jeff_W on November 19, 2010 at 10:33 am

Unbelievable. I fly every 10 days for business and don’t see that changing anytime soon. I have had really no problems until recently – I set off the bomb detection units twice at a major airport and was then massively groped by a turban wrapped man. Ok – I did alarm for explosives, so lets call that one justified…maybe. Then just yesterday at SFO, I went through the Millimeter Wave detection unit and forgot to take my wallet out. That led to another intimate groping. I questioned the fellow doing the groin grab and that led to further, more aggressive groping and the explosive test. It is beyond absurd. We are the laughing stock of the world. And when the next attack happens, and the fabric of society breaks down, I shudder to think what they will do.

john on November 19, 2010 at 10:51 am

This is utter nonsense. It is part of why I don’t bother to visit the US anymore, it’s just not worth it.

This is how you do it.

http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/world/article/744199—israelification-high-security-little-bother

Luis on November 19, 2010 at 12:10 pm

I do think this will affect the airlines’ bottom lines. It’ll be busy the next week because of Thanksgiving, but — after that — travel will really drop off. They are even searching the flight attendants and pilots (I think the pilot could take down the plane without a bomb, so what is the point of this?).

MOMinMINNESOTA on November 19, 2010 at 12:39 pm

The difference between the US and the Israeli approach is the US looks for things – whether in objects or on people. Israel looks at people’s behavior and tries to determine who is more likely to commit a terrorist act.

America’s approach relies on screening everything and every one while Israel allows everything and every one through except what appears to present a threat.

The US approach inconveniences every one, wastes time and does nothing to improve aviation security. Israel’s take on it allows people to travel with a minimum of stress, it cuts down on the amount of time spent at the airport and every one is still safe when its over.

Its really all about common sense. But in America political correctness and bureaucratic sloth get in the way of it. And while Israel doesn’t have to worry about offending Muslim travelers, this is something the US must deal with on a daily basis. For the aforementioned reasons, don’t look for US aviation security to undergo “Israelification” any time soon in the foreseeable future.

NormanF on November 19, 2010 at 12:47 pm

I’ll get scanned, it’s better than burning to death in a 5000 degree jet fuel explosion, as those on 9-11 did…or jump out the window. RIP to all the 9-11 victims, we’ll get revenge.

Truth on November 19, 2010 at 12:56 pm

Jeff_W, you got that dude, what if we currently had ourselves a conservative presidential administration, and the conservative administration’s political party lost seats in both the house & senate a few weeks ago in the election, and now all of a sudden the conservative administration does this type of policy with the TSA by checking out passengers’ private areas, etc. I know all of the left wing pundits in the media will be squeeling at the top of their lungs about and demand impeachment towards the right wing president, and us conservatives to will be crying foul ball about the right wing administration’s TSA policy as well. So far, I haven’t heard any left wing pundit hacks complain about this policy by the TSA that the federal government illistrated, you folks remember a few years ago under Bush, the leftist were bellyaching about “wiretaps”! They were bellyaching and saying that “the government is violating the 4th amendment, blah, blah, blah, blah,”, when in fact, the government was tracing calls from muslim terrorist countries into this country by radical muslim sleeper cells here. The only ones who are right about this issue about the TSA are us conservatives, the government is violating the 4th amendment, and for our stupid left wing friends, all I have to say to are “HYPOCRITES” for not saying anything about this issue.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on November 19, 2010 at 2:32 pm

well as much as i would like to say in NEVER flying again, the 60 HOUR round trip drive to go to Vegas is worth a little privacy being invaded. plus the 200+ gallons of diesel is WAY MORE then the cost of any ticket ever has been

dice roller on November 19, 2010 at 6:13 pm

The grope and grab policy is ridiculous and will wind up catching or stopping exactly ZERO terrorists. In fact I’m pretty sure they’re laughing at us right now while the terrorists are preparing their next attempt to attack us. It seems like we’re always reacting to the last threat but we’re not being proactive in assessing what the next threat will be. And why are we grabbing and groping your average American air passenger, especially young children when it was Muslim men in the 20 – 30 year range that are responsible for the terrorist acts. Isn’t that who we should be looking for?

kenny komodo on November 19, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Anyone who thinks this is making us safer is a moron. Why not just have all the Americans fly naked, while all Muslims go the full ninja without being questioned? Janet Incompentano is a lesbian SS thug, I am sure she enjoys seeing Americans degraded for her sexual pleasure.

Bill on November 19, 2010 at 9:11 pm

To my fellow US Citizens: save your anger for the next time an evil Muslim terrorist stands to attack on your jet. Attack them and crush them.

Truth on November 20, 2010 at 1:20 pm

Every person who is traveling through any airport that requires this should stand in that line and state, at the top of their lungs, they are a muslim woman. Man, woman, child, white, black, indian, tall, short, who cares. Scream it loudly and insist on the same exclusion muslim women are getting. And when they deny, bring a suit for both sexual and religious discrimination and let DHS spend the next 40 years in litigation trying to explain why the implemented this policy and why the excluded the very hijab hags who would happily kill us.

Sean R on November 20, 2010 at 5:27 pm

One of the interesting statistics that I’ve read recently is that an estimated two-thirds of all TSA employees have backgrounds involving various sexual deviations, including child-molestation and pderasty. The government believes, however, that it is a good thing that the TSA hires such employees because they will have an “outlet” for their perversions that will “relax” their compusions to act out their deviant behavior on the general public. It’s a good thing that the government requires the TSA staff to wear latex gloves. The notion of those perverts frisking my genitals and buttocks is disgusting enough.

Ralph Adamo on November 21, 2010 at 4:42 am

Could this use of machinery have any effect on future fertility?

Olive on November 21, 2010 at 7:26 am

Why is everyone complaining about the TSA while at the same time complaining that the government should do more to protect them? Everyone wanted the government to do more after 9/11, after Richard Reid, and after 12/25 didn’t they? After 9/11 the TSA was created, after Reid we had to start taking off our shoes, after 12/25 we are being patted down and scanned.
These are all responses WE DEMANDED from our government. Every story on CNN says the government messed up. Why don’t any of them say the airlines messed up? The airlines own the planes, they ran security to the MINIMUM government standards before 9/11, they default all security issues to the TSA today. The airlines can do their own additional screening of passengers if they so choose to prevent shoe or underwear bombers… Why don’t they? Why aren’t the airlines overseeing their own security? What other private industry relies so fully on the government for all of their security?
Where are the people with legitimate solutions? How do you stop someone from blowing up a plane who has explosives strapped to themselves if you don’t check them? How do you go about only screening “the terrorist”? How do you collect valid intel on “terrorists” if no one wants the government collecting intel on them? How do you have a no fly list if the government can’t put anyone on it until after they have conducted an attack? How do you save lives when no one wants to be the one to make the tough decisions or take the steps to save until after it is too late?
I read responses from a lot of whiners but so far not one solution that will stop the next attack. Where are the solutions? So far we have gotten everything we have asked for…

Tom on November 21, 2010 at 10:44 am