January 25, 2007, - 3:18 pm

Obama’s “Debunking” of Islamic Background Raises More Questions

By Debbie Schlussel
I’ve been getting a lot of e-mails from ostriches, in light of yesterday’s stories in which Senator Barack Hussein Obama allegedly “debunks” the Insight Magazine story and other charges–first made on this site–about his Muslim background.
But apparently ostriches can’t read. Because Obama’s alleged “debunking” didn’t debunk a thing. It raised more questions. For starters, many have cited an AP story and a CNN story, both of which sent “reporters” to check into the Muslim school that Obama attended. All of Al-AP’s Muslim “reporters” in Indonesia tell us that the school, SDN Menteng 1, is a public school, NOT an Islamic school or madrassa (which literally means “academy”), as Hillary Clinton’s camp claims in the Insight Story.
The vice principal of the school, Akmed Solichin, tells AP that

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Most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone’s welcome here. . . it’s a public school.

And we should trust him because Muslims never lie or propagandize. Taqiyyah is a concept in Hinduism or maybe atheism? The same goes for the denials of Indonesia’s Islamofascist-dominated Ministry of Religious Affairs, which denies the school is Islamic. They hate America and would love one of their own in the White House, but they would never lie.
More important, in his own two autobiographies, Obama writes that his teacher at the school sent a note home to his mother that Obama made trouble by making faces while the class was studying the Koran. Uh, sorry, but public schools DO NOT study the Koran. Islamic schools do. And which suras was Obama studying? How about the many suras that preach deception and killing of Infidels? It’s doubtful that the school didn’t teach those. It’s more likely that they did. And which violent Hadiths did the school teach? We’ll never know. And Obama won’t be trumpeting them.
So Christians and others are welcome at the Muslim school Obama attended. That proves nothing. Everyone (except women) would be welcome in most Islamic schools around the world–a great opportunity to indoctrinate and convert them. How do you think Adam Gadahn a/k/a Azzam Al-Amriki learned about Islam before he became a fully converted, educated Muslim? It wasn’t by osmosis.
And finally, there is the glaring red flag on Obama’s attendance at Fransiskus Assisi, a Catholic school.
AP reports this:

At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisi, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.
The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn’t sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

Gee, if he wasn’t a Muslim, but a Catholic, why would a Catholic identify as a Muslim in a Catholic school? He and his parents were trying to hide his Catholic background from a Catholic school?
I don’t know about him, but when my parents enrolled me–a Jew–at Akiva Hebrew Day School, they didn’t tell Rabbi Schostak that I, Debbie Schlussel, am a Muslim . . . just to make me sound more exotic.
And I doubt that’s the reason Obama self-identified as a Muslim at Catholic school.
The real reason might just be the logical one: that it’s the truth. That he actually was a Muslim.
One other thing: Obama told NBC’s Today Show:

Me going to school in Indonesia for two years at a public school there at the age of 7 and 8 is probably not going to be endangering in some way the people of America.

Well, that depends on what they taught him there. If we shouldn’t be worried about what Obama learned in a school that he admits taught him the Koran (shortly before he self-identified as a Muslim at a Catholic school), then we should stop worrying about Palestinian Authority TV training kids at age 3 to kill Jews and Americans and become homicide bombers.
After all, what they learn when they are young and impressionable doesn’t matter. Does it? . . .

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46 Responses

Barak Hussein Obama – Wolf in sheep’s clothing… The Madrassa Candidate.

Yiddish Steel on January 25, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Interesting stuff, for sure. You’ve really done some homework on this guy. Sure, he’s a die-hard liberal, but the American voting public needs to know more. The question is: Does Hildabeast so want to kill Obama’s chances of running that she’ll expose these things? Wouldn’t that conflict with her leftist, “multiculturalism” leaning? All I know, is that it sure will be fun to watch! I love it when lefties get caught up in conflict with their own self-interest.

Skippy on January 25, 2007 at 4:24 pm

Debbie, you’re grasping at straws in order to defame Sen. Obama. For example, all a public school means is that the school is available to the general public and is paid for by taxes. The idea that a public school doesn’t teach religion is a Western idea that’s not universal. I think in Quebec, Canada , religion (i.e., Roman Catholicism) is available in their public school system and in Ontario, Canada, Catholic schools are funded by the government. So even if there are secular/public schools in Indonesia, those schools are going to teach something about Islam and the Koran since the majority in Indonesia are Muslims!
As for Sen. Obama being signed up as a Muslim at a Catholic school, that was entirely up to his father. And Sen. Obama left Indonesia to live with his grandparents in Hawaii when he was 10 YEARS OLD!!!
Lastly, the idea that it was Sen. Clinton’s camp that released this information is in dispute.
BY YOUR DEFINITION, THEN, THE TITLE “PUBLIC SCHOOL” IS A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE USED BY OBAMA AND REPORTERS TO TRY TO SANITIZE AND OBFUSCATE THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL HE WENT TO WAS AN ISLAMIC SCHOOL THAT TEACHES THE KORAN. I’M WELL AWARE AND HAVE NOTED THAT MOST INDONESIANS ARE MUSLIMS. AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM. HIS SCHOOL WAS AN ISLAMIC SCHOOL, WHETHER IT WAS “PUBLIC” OR NOT. IT’S HARDLY GRASPING AT STRAWS, UNLESS YOU THINK THAT 9/11 WAS A FREAK ACCIDENT DONE BY KIND MUSLIMS WHO JUST WANTED A QUICK TOUR OF THE WTC ON THEIR WAY TO LOS ANGELES AND 72 VIRGINS. HE LEARNED THE KORAN AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HE WAS TAUGHT, WHICH WE NEVER WILL KNOW FOR CERTAIN. AND HOW DO WE KNOW HIS FATHER IS THE ONE WHO SIGNED HIM UP AS “MUSLIM”? YOU DON’T KNOW THAT, BUT YOU ASSUME WITH NO EVIDENCE. EVEN IF TRUE, THAT HIS FATHER IDENTIFIED HIM AS A MUSLIM WHEN HE CLAIMS HE NEVER WAS ONE IS OF NOTE. HE’S A LIAR AND TRYING TO COVER UP HIS PAST.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Norman Blitzer on January 25, 2007 at 5:25 pm

And you wonder WHY i have to give YOU a GOOD *schtupp*???!!!!!
i went to Catholic school…THEY taught me YOU killed JESUS!!!
FORTUNATELY the prophets Malcolm [X] and Bob [Marley] came along to teach me the REAL deal
But let’s vote for Jeb so we can get the FINAL SOLUTION pogram on the road???
Out to save your ignorant beautiful ass from your self-hating Jewess autodestruct self *mien* Debbiekins…REMEMBER when GW was the “moshiach”???
Vote for ME and i’ll set you fre…lol

EminemsRevenge on January 25, 2007 at 5:59 pm

[AND HOW DO WE KNOW HIS FATHER IS THE ONE WHO SIGNED HIM UP AS “MUSLIM”? YOU DON’T KNOW THAT, BUT YOU ASSUME WITH NO EVIDENCE.]
I assumed with evidence you provided from AP:
“At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisi, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.”
My point about the Indonesian public school sytsem is that it’s inevitable for those students to come into contact with the Koran at school. I’m guessing, but it seems to me that Indonesia’s public schools aren’t as saturated with Islam as a madrassa. And what if Sen. Obama comes out and says what you want. Are you going to cut him some slack then?
WE DON’T KNOW WHO IDENTIFIED HIM AS MUSLIM–HIS FATHER OR HIMSELF. INDONESIA’S SCHOOLS TEACH A LOT OF EXTREMIST HATE–WHETHER THEY ARE PUBLIC OR NOT. AND FYI, MADRASSA MEANS ACADEMY OR SCHOOL. THAT’S WHAT HE WENT TO. OBAMA WON’T COME OUT AND SAY WHAT I WANT, SO WE DON’T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT. HE DOESN’T WANT TO LOSE VOTES.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Norman Blitzer on January 25, 2007 at 6:26 pm

EminemsRevenge posted:
“i went to Catholic school…THEY taught me YOU killed JESUS!!!”
This reminded me of an interview with Rosanne Barr. She said that the neighborhood kids would call her “Christ Killer”.
ROSANNE GAVE AS GOOD AS SHE GOT. SHE CALLED (AND PROBABLY STILL DOES) MORMONS, “THE NAZI AMISH.” TWO WRONGS DON’T . . . .
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Norman Blitzer on January 25, 2007 at 6:49 pm

Your article makes 100% sense to me Debbie–your other bloggers comments here notwithstanding. Unless someone with a muslim background is willing to 100% disown their “heritage of death” like Wallid Shoebat did http://www.shoebat.com/, I agree–why should we trust that person?–Obama included
So many of us for years would marvel at Arafat–how this little scum sucking maggot would get on camera and say that he wanted “peace”—oh sure, right after his sponsorship of hijackings and other attrocities–even getting a Nobel Peace prize (gag me)– and then go right back to his palestinian compadres and openly call for jihad and “martyrdom” suicide bombings in Arabic. Last year I began to finally investigate what the koran actually says–and …..tada!–it all became perfectly clear!!! That’s why I love you DS–you don’t back down to these murderers.
Debbie you have been calling on Americans to wake up for some time about islam and even gone inside the muslim meetings to see what they are really about first hand–They say they in their own meetings that they hate Jews and Christians and honor/applaud the “martyrs” –this is where the so called “moderate muslims” show their true colors. Is this not why we see ABSOLUTELY NO OUTCRY from these lying muslims against their murdering, attrocity committing brethren? http://islamundressed.com/
Bottom line–Obama–unless you can 100% disown your muslim heritage as something you wish never happened, you deserve all the mistrust you WILL GET from anyone who knows the basics about islam. Once a muslim–always a muslim. Believe me–I am letting the world know as best I can too.

BB on January 25, 2007 at 8:03 pm

I agree with BB. We also know that the muslims will think he is a muslim and that is very important.
I also think it’s interesting how fast CNN was on checking out this story out, what did it take them, 1 day? And yet they are still looking for “Jamil Hussein”.

CarpeDiem on January 25, 2007 at 8:41 pm

Eminems Revenge,
I’m having a hard time understanding your post. I personally don’t like all the hitler references and the crude comments like “schtupp”. I just don’t see the point of throwing all that around, to what end?

CarpeDiem on January 25, 2007 at 8:52 pm

The bottom line is we don’t want a person in the White House who was taught to hate people. Regarding the person above who spoke about being taught in Catholic school to hate the jews-That also was wrong. Jesus himself was a Jew. What Debbie is trying to do is needed as regarding getting to the bottom of the story of “Who really is Barak Obam?”

Doug T on January 26, 2007 at 12:14 am

I trust what Debbie says and not what another Muslim says.
Why? Ever since I found out Muslims are taught to LIE to infidels I realize you just can’t deal with them at all. It is IMPOSSIBLE! Their hand is already set against (Bible prophecy) you before you can even SPEAK!
What worries me is a Muslim can even run for PRESIDENT of America! Try getting a Christian to run for President in Islam!
When G*d wishes to destroy a nation He sends them women leaders – Anonymous
When America elects a black or women President she will have reached the ZENITH of her power. Be careful what you wish for America!

ReallyReallyStupid on January 26, 2007 at 2:56 am

[WE DON’T KNOW WHO IDENTIFIED HIM AS MUSLIM–HIS FATHER OR HIMSELF.]
Even if either Obama or his dad identified Obama as a Muslim, he was 6 years old! I would hardly call Sen. Obama a liar for some minor discrepancy that can easily be explained away by anyone.
[AND FYI, MADRASSA MEANS ACADEMY OR SCHOOL]
Yes, I know but in your own article the following was stated:
“…SDN Menteng 1, is a public school, NOT an Islamic school or madrassa (which literally means “academy”),… .
In English, “madrassa” is used to refer to an Islamic religious school.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Madrassa
[INDONESIA’S SCHOOLS TEACH A LOT OF EXTREMIST HATE–WHETHER THEY ARE PUBLIC OR NOT.]
CNN says otherwise:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html

Norman Blitzer on January 26, 2007 at 3:43 am

Norman Blitzer, you’re an idiot. You must be related to Wolf. Why do people insist on defending candidates that give reason to question them? With 300 million people in this great country, isn’t there at least one democrat worth putting in as a presidential candidate? Good grief, you’d think that at least one person could be found that puts the USA first and doesn’t bring baggage.
This just shows how desparate the democrats are. Do we really think a first term, no-accomplishment-to speak-of senator is worthy of becoming president? Or how about Hillary? Just look at the baggage she brings. Can the country really afford to rehash the Bubba years? Let’s “move on” (no pun intended). Give me a reason to consider a democrat.
Don’t worry: I’m just as critical about the Republicans’ choices. There has got to be at least one person who won’t give the press a reason to sling dirt.
But dirt slinging has beome the norm in elections and I for one am sick of it. Give me a real reason to vote for a candidate: no “dirt” to dig up, no baggage, past accomplishments, patriotism, common sense, and one with the fortitude to make the right choices in the face of adversity. Does this person exist?

you are right on January 26, 2007 at 8:38 am

Hello All, I am an Arab Christian and let me tell you that whatever the word madrassah means it is all the same. I posted an article on my blog “The Islamic Threat” at
http://islamthreat.blogspot.com/2007/01/barack-hussein-obama-manchurian.html#links
that describes what happens in all schools in the Islamic world.
And Debbie, from now on Barack Hussein should be called by us all ‘The Manchurian Candidate'(tm by me Steve Decatur 🙂 ). When you read my entry at my blog you will understand why he deserves the name.

stevedecatur on January 26, 2007 at 8:56 am

Somehwere online I saw a PBS-style site with some video about Arab-American voting patterns. James Zogby was the guest “expert” commentator he identified a “Lieberman factor” – voters who wouldn’t consider the Gore ticket in ’00 because Joe Lieberman was his running mate.
Candidate Obama clearly would be an antidote to these voters, a way of the Democratic Party gaining traction among Arab voters.

Jeremiah on January 26, 2007 at 9:02 am

All other things being equal, Barack Obama being a former Muslim makes me feel more comfortable with him, not less. Converts to Christianity tend to be more zealous than life-long cultural Christians.
Of course, I would feel more comfortable if Mr. Obama were not an attendee of the United Church of Christ, which is probably the most utlra-liberal Christian organization, including politically. The church even has an anti-Wal-Mart political ministry according to its web site.

Conservatarian on January 26, 2007 at 9:06 am

To Jeremiah–The Dems already have plenty of traction with the Arabs/Muslims. The Dems are useful idiots for the Muslims.

lexi on January 26, 2007 at 9:38 am

‘you are right’, you are stupid:
“Why do people insist on defending candidates that give reason to question them?”
WHAT AN IDIOTIC QUESTION! Because those reasons can easily be explained! And of course a candidate should be defended if he/she is being wrongfully attacked. Look what happened to McCain in 2000. Some conservatives were calling him the ‘Manchurian Candidate’!
‘you are right’, your idiotic response only proves that you’re even more stupid than Thee_Bruno.

Norman Blitzer on January 26, 2007 at 10:22 am

To not question a politician is foolish. And when questions aren’t answered straightforwardly it causes suspicion. To blow it off is to accept whatever the real answer is. Islam is such a dangerous thing, we must know for sure where a candidate stands.
And even if you’re okay with his muslim past (which you would be insane to be), how about his current religious affiliations? He belongs to an unAmerican racist hate-mongering “church” in Chicago. So muslim or not, he’s still an America hater and thus unworthy of public office.
Have a look for yourself. http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

Stealthkix on January 26, 2007 at 10:37 am

Isn’t diversity just wonderfull? We really went too far with ultra-tolerance that we even allowed a terrorist sympathizing candidate( and a funder no doubt) to forgo his campaign for the presidency. Isn’t that what America needs the most, to become imperialized by the CAIR?

Jew Chick on January 26, 2007 at 10:41 am

Stealthkix, thanks for that link to Obama’s church. Read the January 21 Bulletin that states the president is sending 21,500 more troops to their death and how we have inflicted 600K in collateral damage plus more trash. Is this a church or a madrassa? I vote no to Obama.

TheOmegaMan on January 26, 2007 at 11:06 am

Just doing my part to help enlighten folks. I find it interesting that they capitalize the word “black” every time, but never capitalize the word “white”.
This doctrine that Obamalamadingdong promotes is poison to the black community.

Stealthkix on January 26, 2007 at 11:51 am

Stealthkix-Thank you for the link.
This is another big problem for Obamba.
He belongs to a African nationalist church with ultra leftist leanings. It is in plain view that this church swears allegiance to Africa, not America! This sounds like a Christian version of The Nation of Islam! How can a person such as this even be considered for President of this country?
Like the poster above said, read the Jan 21 bulletin, the pastor is a raving leftist lunatic. It seems to me the pastor is freaking out that he is getting all this attention. He’s focusing on blaming Bush policies in order to deflect attention away from *his* radical views.
I wonder what the pastor is really hiding? Maybe all this focus on Obamba is making him nervous?

CarpeDiem on January 26, 2007 at 12:24 pm

lexi, Sure the Dems already have Arab traction. Ellison, Obama, etc. will accelerate it, esp. as the Arab (and black) left increasingly assert their “identity”.
A potential positive is it might put a squeeze on Jews in the Democratic Party now and into the future (“Should I stay or should I go?” etc.).

Jeremiah on January 26, 2007 at 12:32 pm

“B.O.’s” muslim schooling seems less of a problem than his affiliation with TUCC. This church is the black equivalent of the KKK. Of course, the MSM will turn a blind eye to this to protect their ‘chosen one’.

WillPower on January 26, 2007 at 12:52 pm

That tucc link is worth reading:
* the “batik chic” graphics
* #8 “Disavowal of the Pursuit of ‘Middleclassness'” raises an eyebrow: it leaves from for the class&race warfare pimps under his tent.

Jeremiah on January 26, 2007 at 1:01 pm

Agree with you Willpower. Regarding Obamba who is their “chosen one”, if you look on the site they call themselves “the chosen people”.

CarpeDiem on January 26, 2007 at 1:04 pm

Re: the tucc link-If you look at the Trumpet magazine one cover has a pic of Jesse Jackson among others. Another cover is devoted to Iyanla Vansant who used to be on Oprah’s show a lot. This was someone who Oprah promoted for awhile. So, does Oprah go to this church too? How does she know Obamba anyway?

CarpeDiem on January 26, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Great link, Stealthkix
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
Everyone should read about how this Osama Obama really has a separatist (black apartheid) view of America, yet he doesn’t want whitey to know about it.
Too bad, Abnormal Blitzed, your candidate is gonna get a good Clinton-lynching. Too bad the other LIBERALS will stand hypocritically silent about it.

Thee_Bruno on January 26, 2007 at 1:18 pm

In 2002 a magazine called Christianity Today did a story on Oprah and stated that she is attends Trinity United Church of Christ. How much more needs to be said about this place?

Stealthkix on January 26, 2007 at 1:37 pm

I read the sermon of Osama Obama’s alleged pastor, Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., of the Trinity United Church of Christ, and all I can say is that the guy is an outright racist. This SOB has no business being a preacher (but, hey, Calypso Louie has a big following, too). However, I suspect that Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. has no problem demanding tithes of 10% from his poor black congregants. The guy is a snakeoil salesman and a socialist. It also amazes me how his tax-exempt status as a religious organization hasn’t been revoked by the IRS.
Talk about monitoring what’s being said in mosques…a lot of these so-called churches should be monitored, as well.

Thee_Bruno on January 26, 2007 at 2:15 pm

EminemsRevenge posted:
“i went to Catholic school…THEY taught me YOU killed JESUS!!!”
THAT. IS. A. LIE. Some of us ACTUALLY ATTENDED religion class and that was never taught. Look at any of the Catechisms throughout the past centuryÖit ainít thereÖnot that teaching.
ìCourseÖI never attended the Rastafarian or Maicanjai Catholic-beliefs-held-hostage-Church like EM didÖall the parishes we belonged to were authentically Roman Catholic.
IF YOU look at the present Catechism of the Catholic Church, special acknowledgement and status are accorded to the Jews.
The Muslims donít have that statusÖand NEVER WILL.
WE ARE (the Christians) that ìwildî root GRAFTED on to the ancient, existing, olive tree (Abraham and his descendants)~ (Romans 11)
I donít know what Rosanne is getting all worked up aboutÖthe Mormons arenít even Christians (invalid baptism etc.), they should worry about themselves, and their own lack of sonship, not herñ

The Canadien on January 26, 2007 at 6:24 pm

Keep on checking this one out, Debbie. You’ve done an excellent job so far!
After reading the “covenants” of the Black church Obama attends, I found them to be very racist. It is time for those who wish to put the concerns of Africa first, to move to Africa and put their efforts to work immediately! “When in Rome, do as the Romans…” It is time for the people living as citizens of the United States to decide to put our country FIRST – otherwise head on out…and don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
I agree with Tom Tancredo in that there should be NO MORE Black or Hispanic Caucuses in Congress. It is time for those who choose to live in America and represent America in Congress to be one thing, an AMERICAN!!!! No hyphenations allowed! This has definitely gotten out of hand and must be stopped!

CapeConservative on January 26, 2007 at 9:31 pm

These FALSE statements made by/about Obama give support to our suspicion that Senator Obama is a closet Muslim who does not deserve our trust:
BLATANT LIES by and about BARACK OBAMA
(1) LIE #1
http://www.usvetdsp.com/dec06/obama_muslim.htm
Barak Hussein Obama – Who is he?
By Ted Sampley- U.S. Veteran Dispatch December 29, 2006
ObamaÔø?s own lie: Obama stated in his Convention speech: ‘My father Ôø? grew up herding goats.’ The ‘goat herder’ claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie.
Fact (by Ted Sampley): Obama’s grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama’s father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was not a herdsman, but an outstanding student, who once got a Kenyan governmentÔø?s scholarship to study in Hawaii, where he met ObamaÔø?s mother. ThatÔø?s why after completing his study ObamaÔø?s father went back to Kenya to take a high position with the Kenyan government.
(2) LIE #2 (by the Media Elite)
WASHINGTON POST Ôø? January 18, 2007 – Editorials – page A22
Ôø? Mr. Obama, 45, presents himself Ôø?. that he’s the son of a Kenyan father and a Kansan mother, a Midwesterner who spent part of his childhood in an Indonesian village.Ôø?
Fact: This is a blatant lie! His family residence in Southern Jakarta is one of the most affluent suburbs of Jakarta (see Op-Ed article written by a family friend in the newspaper The Jakarta Post – Opinion and Editorial – January 17, 2007 , by Julia Suryakusuma, a personal friend of ObamaÔø?s mother, Ann Dunham. The Jakarta Post article is available at “http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20061129.F03.”
This fact is commensurate with his stepfather (Soetoro) being a high official of the Indonesian Oil Company (Permina, now Pertamina, a privatized state company, which was IndonesiaÔø?s first and largest, most corrupt company; see website excerpts below [1,2]). By the time of SoetoroÔø?s study in Hawaii (under SoekarnoÔø?s rule), no Indonesian had enough resources to send his son to study in USA. Thus, Soetoro must have studied in Hawaii under the Indonesian state scholarship. This means, after graduation he MUST serve the Indonesian government to pay-off his study, i.e., by becoming a manager with the state-owned oil company, Pertamina, which was formerly owned by the international oil company Shell, but had been nationalized/confiscated by the Indonesian government during SoekarnoÔø?s rule [1].
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Supporting WEBSITE REFERENCES:
[1] http://www.mongabay.com/reference/country_studies/indonesia/all.html
In 1890, the Royal Dutch Company for Exploration of Petroleum Sources in the Netherlands Indies (Koninklijke Nederlandsche Maatschappij tot Exploitatie van Petroleum-bronnen in Nederlandsche-IndiÔø?) was established, and in 1907 it merged with Shell Transport and Trading Company, a British concern, to become Royal Dutch Shell, which controlled around 85 percent of oil production in the islands before World War II. Oil was pumped from wells in Sumatra, Java, and eastern Kalimantan.
As tensions between the republic and the Netherlands over West New Guinea grew, PKI-controlled unions led a movement to nationalize Dutch-owned firms: on December 3, 1957, the Royal Packetship Company (KPM), which controlled most of the archipelago’s shipping, was seized and, two days later, Royal Dutch Shell. Some 46,000 Dutch nationals were expelled from Indonesia, and Nasution ordered officers of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Indonesia (ABRI), which had been involved in economic affairs since the late 1940s, to take a role in managing nationalized firms. This action marked the beginning of the armed forces’ role in the economy, a role which grew substantially in later years. Control of the oil industry was seized by ABRI, and Colonel Ibnu Sutowo, Nasution’s deputy, was placed in charge of a NEW NATIONAL OIL COMPANY, PERMINA.
Pertamina was established in 1968 as a merger of Permina and two other firms. Its director, General Ibnu Sutowo, a hardy survivor of the transition from Guided Democracy to New Order who had been director of Permina, embarked on an ambitious investment program that included purchase of oil tankers and construction of P.T. Krakatau, a steel complex.
[2] http://newhistorian.wordpress.com/
JFK, Indonesia, CIA & Freeport Sulphur by Lisa Pease
As president-director of Pertamina [the GovernmentÔø?s state-owned oil company], Lieutenant General Ibnu Sutowo receives a salary of just $250 a month, but lives on a princely scale. He moves around Jakarta in his personal Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud. He has built a family compound of several mansions, which are so large that guests at his daughterÔø?s wedding party could follow the whole show only on closed-circuit television.
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(3) LIE #3
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/united-states-politics/35769-mullah-osama-errrr-barack-obama-done.html
Mr. Obama says his father was “raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist….”
Comment: Sooo Ôø? an atheist or agnostic who named his first born son Ôø?BarackÔø?, which is definitely NOT African but an Islamic/Koranic name? (related to Ôø?MubarakÔø?; Ôø?BarakaÔø? means Ôø?Allah blessedÔø?).
This fact alone refutes Mr. Obama’s statement that his father was “raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist….” http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/united-states-politics/35769-mullah-osama-errrr-barack-obama-done.html
Should we accept ObamaÔø?s words as truth, then Mr. Barack Hussein Obama must have been born BEFORE his father met his mother!
Only a wishful-thinking self-deceiving oxymoron would believe in such a blatant lie!

Momentoftruth on February 4, 2007 at 12:48 pm

Schlussel, you are clearly a desperate woman, and as much as it amuses me to watch you and your racist buddies twist and turn in ever more frantic attempts to justify your original piece of idiocy. There comes a time when the joke wears thin.
Everyone has seen the CNN piece, so everyone in the world knows that this was not a Maddrassa in the sense that you claim. This leaves you desperately trying to save face, (and your career as a Fox News ëanalystí), and your supporters outraged that anyone would dare to scupper a good piece of blackman-bashing with anything as inconsequencial as ëthe truthí.
But hereís the thing. There were no militant Islamic Madrassaía in Indonesia in 1966.
Three reasons;
a) The House of Saud had not yet begun their multi-Billion dollar campaign to export their particular brand of fundamentalist wahabbism at that time. Itís by-and-large Saudi Royal Family money that has paid for Islamic militant schooling. A family that George W. Bush continues to support and befriend to this day.
b) There was no organized Islamic militancy in Indonesia at that time. The Darul Islam movement had attempted to sow the seeds of Islamic rebellion through the late 1950ís. However their brand of Islamic militancy was rejected by the masses of Indonesian Muslims. Eventually their leader Kartosuwirjo was captured and executed by Sukarnoís government in September of 1962. It would be more than twenty years before enough Saudi money flowed to Indonesia to enable Islamic militancy to organize in Indonesia again.
c) The brutal and oppressive (and of course, largely secular)Sukarno and Suharto regimes would never have allowed a militantly Islamic school to flourish, even if it could have been organized.

The Purple Cow on February 14, 2007 at 10:33 am

i have been looking and for some reason no one has a copy of the cards that were signed for young hussein obama showing he was registered in school in indonesia as being islamic, nor have i found any other documents on the net. the los angeles times – i even hate to type the name – has a great story about our first islamic to run for president – at http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-obama15mar15,1,2211333,full.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage&ctrack=1&cset=true. it talks about his going to the mosque and sign in cards showing his islamic religion being listed on school records for St. Francis Assisi Foundation School, and Model Primary School Menteng 1 in central Jakarta. the assertion that bugs ate his records appear a little – absurd. thank you

burakahusseinobamalovesislam on April 5, 2007 at 1:15 pm

President of a country, especially such populated as USA, shall always belong to the flat majority – to keep the country stable. It is especially true, if the country is experiencing the religious clashes – that were pacified in USA for a long period, but now, thanks to the growing religious diversity, starts again its climb toward midnight darkness. That’s why candidatures of Lieberman (even for Vice Pres), Bloomberg and Obama are alike undesirable. Strangely enough, in comparison to them for some reasons a candidate like Powell or even Rice looks more or less OK – if only to discard Rice’s blatant inferiority as a diplomat (Who is not with us – is against us! – perfect, isn’t it? – Bush’s motto, but hers too). With a group of more or less able advisers (why none of them is running for a Pres?) – even such a disabled totalplegic of diplomacy, as Condy, can hold an office with the help of these high paid crutches and prosthesisÔø?s. But – why neither she nor Powell is running? – each of them might be an agreeable and expedient replacement for Obama in the run.

MarcAurelio on January 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm

Isn’t it Islamic Practice for a Muslim who marries a Non-Muslim, the Non-Muslim must convert to Islam? And wouldn’t the children born to a Muslim Father have to be Muslim as well or be expelled, or punished for going against Islam? And wouldn’t a Mulim father disown his sibling that converted to Christianity? And wouldn’t a Muslim reject being sworn in on a Christian Bible? I’d like to ask all these of Obama. I don’t think we’d get an honest answer. He shouldn’t be President.

lynnpk on January 14, 2008 at 9:00 am

Isn’t it Islamic Practice for a Muslim who marries a Non-Muslim, the Non-Muslim must convert to Islam? And wouldn’t the children born to a Muslim Father have to be Muslim as well or be expelled, or punished for going against Islam? And wouldn’t a Mulim father disown his sibling that converted to Christianity? And wouldn’t a Muslim reject being sworn in on a Christian Bible? I’d like to ask all these of Obama. I don’t think we’d get an honest answer. He shouldn’t be President.

lynnpk on January 14, 2008 at 9:00 am

Interesting point that some Muslims may consider Obama to be a heretical Muslim (because he is a practicing Christian with Muslim heritage), despite the fact that he considers himself a Christian with a multicultural upbringing.
I actually think he would be a great president, though. I believe his background gives him a broad perspective.
Here’s an excerpt from one of his foreign policy speeches:
“… it’s a vision informed by knowing what it’s like to live in the wider world, beyond the halls of power; of playing barefoot with children in Indonesia who couldn’t dream the same dreams that I could because they weren’t American; of having a grandmother living in Kenya without electricity or
plumbing; of being born to a father who set out from a distant land in search of the light of hope
offered by a dream called America.
That is the experience that I will bring to the office. Not the mindset of fear that we have been
fed since 9/11 – fear of looking weak; fear of new challenges; fear of the unknown. But rather hope
that this moment of challenge can become a dawn of new opportunity, and the conviction to seize this
opportunity – to recapture our strength; to overcome new threats; to reach for what’s possible.
To do this, we have to invite the American people into the discussion, and once more make our
foreign policy a cause to unite us – not a wedge issue to divide us.”
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/12/18/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_37.php

Julie W. on January 27, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Debbie Schlussel,
You’re research is superior on both Obama’s employees that are members of the Nation of Islam. Suggestion: Obama’s Odinga connection in Kenya gives solid proof of his muslim background. Odinga has recently promised in writing to institute Sharia law- within six months- in Kenya.

sdw2is on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 pm

Debbie,if these allegations are true, why would Fox News and CNN ignore them? Or,why would Hillary fail to talk about thi?
Obama lied about his father’s religious denomination during the DNC Convention in 2004. He said his father
was a non-practicing Christian.

Pvtletter on April 6, 2008 at 1:51 am

What a bunch of sorry idiots. Debbie Schlussel’s Wikipedia profile pretty much says it all. And it shows her to be a poor loser. Loves to sue. LMAO. You folks are nut! Shouldn’t you people be living in a compound somewhere in Idaho or something.

chris30338 on May 28, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Oh, forgot to mention that Debbie has a problem with Muslims…….Does it show??? LOL

chris30338 on May 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm

To Pvtletter, What a jerk, for someone so “tolerant” why are you talking about Idaho like that? Don’t dishonor my state!
Maybe you should stop looking to wikipedia for advice and start looking at HISTORY in an encyclopedia and current events in the NEWS… Hmmm and I am not talking stupid American media, go to news sources that arn’t a part of this nation, as the truth is that this country is way to wrapped up in it’self to care about what is REALLY happening in the middle east and Israel.

PyRex on October 12, 2008 at 11:11 am

Eventually the world will know that Bo is a Muslim. This country will be destroyed from the inside. What better way than getting a Muslim voted in as president.

Judy on February 22, 2013 at 10:45 pm

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