December 18, 2006, - 4:01 pm

Barack Hussein Obama: Once a Muslim, Always A Muslim

By Debbie Schlussel
**** UPDATE, 01/30/08: EXCLUSIVE – Obama’s Nation of Islam Staffers, Edward Said & “Inflexible Jews” Causing Mid-East Conflict: An Obama Insider Reveals the Real Barack
**** UPDATE, 01/25/07: Barack Hussein Obama’s alleged debunking of Islamic background raises even MORE questions. ****
**** UPDATE, 01/19/07: Looks like Hillary Clinton’s camp agrees with me and has dug up more info that confirms my suspicions about Obama and his Muslim background, including his attendance at a Wahabbi (ie., extremist Sunni) Madrassa (Islamic religious academy). Hillary’s camp says Obama is covering up his Muslim past. Why? ****
Many months ago, readers began asking me whether Barack Obama is Muslim. Since he identifies as a Christian, I said, “no,” and responded that he was not raised by his Kenyan father.
But, then, I decided to look further into Obama’s background. His full name–as by now you have probably heard–is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali’s son–Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.
And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.

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Then, there are the other items in his background. As best-selling author Scott Turow wrote in Salon, Obama went to a Muslim school for two years in Indonesia. His mother, Anna, married an Indonesian man (likely another Muslim, as Indonesia is Muslim-dominated and has the largest Islamic population in the world).
And Obama has a “born-again” affinity for the nation of his Muslim father, Kenya, and his Kenyan sister. (Although Kenya is largely Christian, it has a fast-growing Muslim population that has engaged in a good deal of religious violence and riots against Christians. And Kenyan courts will apply Sharia law, when the participants are Muslim.) Wrote Turow:

Obama’s father died in a traffic accident in Nairobi in 1982, but while Obama was working in Chicago, he met his Kenyan sister, Auma, a linguist educated in Germany who was visiting the United States. When she returned to Kenya in 1986 to teach for a year at the University of Nairobi, Obama finally made the trip to his father’s homeland he had long promised himself. There, he managed to fully embrace a heritage and a family he’d never fully known and come to terms with his father, whom he’d long regarded as an august foreign prince, but now realized was a human being burdened by his own illusions and vulnerabilities.

So, even if he identifies strongly as a Christian, and even if he despised the behavior of his father (as Obama said on Oprah); is a man who Muslims think is a Muslim, who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father’s heritage, a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?
Is that even the man we’d want to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, if Hillary Clinton offers him the Vice Presidential candidacy on her ticket (which he certainly wouldn’t turn down)?
NO WAY, JOSE . . . Or, is that, HUSSEIN?




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566 Responses

Reply to ‘Dance with Possum’ dated 1/28/2007.
Dear Possum:
Converting from Judaism to Christianity is quite natural, because that is just what Jesus ChristÔø?s teaching is all about. Thus, Christianity can be considered as a perfection of Judaism, at least from the standpoint of Christians, although Jesus is still rejected by Judaism until today. In contrast, Islam is a direct antipode of both Judaism and Christianity. To come to this conclusion, you have to study Islam a little bit further in order to free yourself from prejudice. Although Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it rejects Him of being son of God and that Jesus died on the cross. In fact, Islam considers Jews as pigs and Christians apes, as recited in a number of verses in the Qur’an, specifically Suras 5:60-65, 2:65 and 7:166.
ObamaÔø?s faith is totally immaterial. It is his lying and concealing his Islamic faith that really matter. We do not reject Keith Ellison for being a first Muslim congressman, since he did not try to conceal his faith, so other congress members exactly know where he stands.
Islam as religion is acceptable, but Islam as ideology is to be rejected, even if it does not directly support terrorists and Islamofascists. This is because Islam not only is a religion but also a law system and a state ideology, both being in direct opposite to our democracy. As such, Islam does not fit into our law system, since – just like Communism – it seeks to destroy our democratic state and replace it by their theocratic state.
You are wrong Mr. Possum Ôø? Our state is NOT based on Christianity, but on REASON, the latter being the fundament of modern democracy. The same thing with European states. To come to this conclusion you should delve a little bit into the history. Medieval Europe was based on the Bible scripture, i.e., by definition a Christian state. This has been radically transformed by the Enlightenment based on reason beginning with the 17th century. While Europe had to overcome a lot of difficulties in their transformation to a democratic state (e.g., the French revolution 1789), our founding fathers were first in establishing a fully functioning state based reason (American revolution 1776) To be noted is here the fact that at least two of our founding fathers, i.e., Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, were strong supporters of the French revolution.
In comparison, the Islamic concept of state is at least 1400 years old and has not changed even a little bit until today. So, according to you, Mr. Possum, we should give this 1400-year old Ôø?wisdomÔø? a chance to govern us all? The truth is, Islam as a pre-medieval ideology is against REASON (i.e., IRRATIONAL) and fundamentally ANTI DEMOCRATIC. So, according to you, Mr. Possum, this irrational Ôø?wisdomÔø? should control our lives?
It is not any faith having a monopoly of wisdom, as you said, but wisdom can be only achieved by reason. History has shown that faith only foments hate and produces war, not wisdom. Reason does not abolish faith, but puts faith in its proper position, i.e., as a personal matter. As such, our reason does not allow any faith to be enforced to any person, as the Islamic religion has been trying 1400 years long. This is the basis for freedom of religion, and also the basis for rejecting Islam as an ideology, philosophy, and/or state law. We can only accept Islam as a religion that is 100% private matter.
May God bless you all.

Momentoftruth on February 2, 2007 at 10:01 am

Posts on this site making fun of his name and calling him a “banana” are excellent, what amazes me is how does a black man have the temerity to stand for election for president when there are obviously more qaulified people on this site, why dont we just hang him from the nearest tree

davidcohen518 on February 6, 2007 at 11:30 am

the reason the bigots on this site are upset about his name is that they did not get to name him, they are use to being the slave owning class and giving them jewish or christian names. How dare a black man decide a religion or name for himself. I am so appalled that jewish people with our history are really expressing such biggoted views.

davidcohen518 on February 7, 2007 at 4:52 am

Hey, y’all…
Lots of preconceived notions flying around in this discussion.
I’m about as Republican as they come, and I too had my reservations about Obama.
So I actually (gasp!) decided to read his book, The Audacity of Hope, and see what Obama had to say for himself.
Sure, he’s to the left of most of the commenters here… but if he represents a real danger to America, he’s done a DAMNED fine job of covering it up.
We need to somehow differentiate between a New Deal Democrat and a spawn-of-Satan Islamic antichrist.
Read the man in his own words and don’t let Rush (God love him) tell you what to think.

Pete (Alois) on February 10, 2007 at 10:13 pm

He’s got my vote, just to piss off people like you.

ausman on February 20, 2007 at 3:42 am

Dear Debbie,
I am a white-male american, and I happened to come across your website. I see you had a lot to say, and seem to have gotten people extremely frustrated. There is only one problem though Debbie, are you aware that your facts are not facts? It is obvious you are only doing this to get muslims to act a certain way, so you have every reason to justify every bad thing you ever said about them. I (personally) am not muslim, but know a little bit about the religion, and it is surely not what you and the media make it out to be.
Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: “Radical Islam” or “Islamic Fascism”. They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), “Terrorists”. In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they dont! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.
America uses the term terrorist only to keep emotions and fears of Americans alive. The government wants all americans to support the war they are planning in the middle east, and need something that will make all Americans emotionally support them. Do you even know what a terrorist is Debbie? The media claims a terrorist is anyone who fights to support their country (against America), anyone who opposes america, anyone who opposes domination of the world (from America), or an act of violence which is claimed to be justified by radical religion. Americans around the U.S. are being brainwashed, and its a shame that some of the freeist, finest people in the world can be easily manipulated. Ariel Sharon seemed to have a definition of terrorism, “One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation”. Is Sharon calling he, and his supporters terrorists? Because if I am not mistaken, it is Israel who specializes in killing innocent civilians, even children. There is horrific evidence of Israel doing such things, and its sad that America (the land of the free, and home of the brave)supported terrorism! Sharon also believes, “If it is strictly military combat, it is not terrorism”. So once again, is he calling himself a terrorist? Becuase if he is trying to critiize Hezbollah, he has no argument, since Hezbollah only has confrontations with the greedy Israely Army. So once again, he and everyone who agrees with him, is proven wrong! Check out these videos please, http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8k170Z-DNU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9XtKDuSOQ
Now America’s story is they are only trying to bring democracy to the world, and will do it one country at a time. They do not tell you what they are actually doing overseas, and what is driving the muslims crazy enough to act a certain way. If I kill your brother, would you now wish death upon me? America does not show the killing of the brother, they only show the reaction. When they show the reaction, they use it in such a way to show that muslims are Radical and will kill for no reason. Yes, it obviously is meant to scare Americans and keep supporting the policy. Islam only opposes those who support the devil or evil. If muslims are acting a certain way, it is not because they interpret their books that killing people is ok. The Quaran does not wish death to America, and surely only opposes the forces of evil. Since Islam is a peaceful religion, think about how much evil it will take to get them to act this way. America must be hiding a lot, but its a common thing for people overseas to say America is raping muslim women and torturing muslims. Once again, with that happening, self defense is terrorism, right?
Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.
Debbie last thing I would like to say is your whole page on muslims around the U.S. and around the world is invalid. Once again, you are only doing this to frustrate muslims enough to say something you want them to say, or act a certain way because they feel they are hated. It is wrong what you are doing, and if you are part of any religion, lying is a bad thing, and you will never enter the gates of heaven for as long as you stay the way you are. Keep the hatred in your heart, since the lord knows what is right! Let them deal with the devilish, false hatred you have in your heart. You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed… Congradulations Debbie, and to all Americans who read this, you are all very special people, and I am not Anti-American! It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little. Watch this video fellow americans, for it may actually teach you something…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jbJ6PCnfgs
Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!

Sam on February 26, 2007 at 2:01 pm

Dear Debbie,
I am a white-male american, and I happened to come across your website. I see you had a lot to say, and seem to have gotten people extremely frustrated. There is only one problem though Debbie, are you aware that your facts are not facts? It is obvious you are only doing this to get muslims to act a certain way, so you have every reason to justify every bad thing you ever said about them. I (personally) am not muslim, but know a little bit about the religion, and it is surely not what you and the media make it out to be.
Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: “Radical Islam” or “Islamic Fascism”. They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), “Terrorists”. In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they dont! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.
America uses the term terrorist only to keep emotions and fears of Americans alive. The government wants all americans to support the war they are planning in the middle east, and need something that will make all Americans emotionally support them. Do you even know what a terrorist is Debbie? The media claims a terrorist is anyone who fights to support their country (against America), anyone who opposes america, anyone who opposes domination of the world (from America), or an act of violence which is claimed to be justified by radical religion. Americans around the U.S. are being brainwashed, and its a shame that some of the freeist, finest people in the world can be easily manipulated. Ariel Sharon seemed to have a definition of terrorism, “One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation”. Is Sharon calling he, and his supporters terrorists? Because if I am not mistaken, it is Israel who specializes in killing innocent civilians, even children. There is horrific evidence of Israel doing such things, and its sad that America (the land of the free, and home of the brave)supported terrorism! Sharon also believes, “If it is strictly military combat, it is not terrorism”. So once again, is he calling himself a terrorist? Becuase if he is trying to critiize Hezbollah, he has no argument, since Hezbollah only has confrontations with the greedy Israely Army. So once again, he and everyone who agrees with him, is proven wrong! Check out these videos please, http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8k170Z-DNU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9XtKDuSOQ
Now America’s story is they are only trying to bring democracy to the world, and will do it one country at a time. They do not tell you what they are actually doing overseas, and what is driving the muslims crazy enough to act a certain way. If I kill your brother, would you now wish death upon me? America does not show the killing of the brother, they only show the reaction. When they show the reaction, they use it in such a way to show that muslims are Radical and will kill for no reason. Yes, it obviously is meant to scare Americans and keep supporting the policy. Islam only opposes those who support the devil or evil. If muslims are acting a certain way, it is not because they interpret their books that killing people is ok. The Quaran does not wish death to America, and surely only opposes the forces of evil. Since Islam is a peaceful religion, think about how much evil it will take to get them to act this way. America must be hiding a lot, but its a common thing for people overseas to say America is raping muslim women and torturing muslims. Once again, with that happening, self defense is terrorism, right?
Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.
Debbie last thing I would like to say is your whole page on muslims around the U.S. and around the world is invalid. Once again, you are only doing this to frustrate muslims enough to say something you want them to say, or act a certain way because they feel they are hated. It is wrong what you are doing, and if you are part of any religion, lying is a bad thing, and you will never enter the gates of heaven for as long as you stay the way you are. Keep the hatred in your heart, since the lord knows what is right! Let them deal with the devilish, false hatred you have in your heart. You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed… Congradulations Debbie, and to all Americans who read this, you are all very special people, and I am not Anti-American! It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little. Watch this video fellow americans, for it may actually teach you something…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jbJ6PCnfgs
Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!

Sam on February 26, 2007 at 2:01 pm

I love that a great deal of the ‘conservative’ comments are full of trashy language and pathetic spelling. “We’ll hate the Islamic world because it weakens the moral fiber of America, right there with gay marriage and sex on t.v., but it’s ok to defile our mouths with profanity!” – Yeah, makes perfect sense.
“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouth but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.” – Ephesians 4:29
God has no political agenda

smandley on March 4, 2007 at 11:56 pm

Once a Bigot, Always a Bigot !!!!

sue-me on March 9, 2007 at 6:22 pm

smandley says, “God has no political agenda”. It depends whose god you’re talking about. Qur’an 9:29 says to kill (the word qatl is one of the many Arabic words for “kill”) Christians and Jews unless they acknowledge Islam or pay the religious tax and live as dhimmis. And that is a political agenda to the max.

stevecanuck on March 27, 2007 at 10:24 am

Note to Sam: The word Islam does NOT means peace in Arabic. It means submission or surrender, and it’s meant in a purely spiritual sense as it refers to submission to God. The word for peace is salaam, and again, relative to the religion of Islam it’s meant as spiritual peace. It has nothing to do with not killing your enemies.

stevecanuck on March 27, 2007 at 10:29 am

“An honest politician” is an oxymoron. And people are shocked and surprised when one lies, especially one running for President?!? I’m more surprised when one actually tells the truth, and then I wonder, ‘what’s the ulterior motive?’ or simply ‘why?’.
People are in an uproar about Obama’s past or autobigraphy or whatever. I venture to say that ANYONE’S autobiography in the entire history of time has been white-washed, or at the very least, biased or based on selective amnesia. Hell, most of the history they teach children in school has been white-washed.
So far, the only thing I object to about Barack Obama is not his name, his religion nor his race. It’s just that he seems a super lightweight – all charisma, smiles and sound bytes that sound like he plagerized the entire greeting card section of a pharmacy. He promotes himself like he’s the epitome of the American Dream. As if THAT’S enough qualification to become President. These are seriously flawed times, and we desperately need a serious candidate, and I’m STILL waiting.
Even I, as a casual bystander, can go to the site of a multiple train wreck and say how terrible it is, and start assigning blame, and make countless comments and opinions about it. I’m more interested in listening to the person who has a viable plan to clean it up and try to FIX it.
So far, in this Presidential race, there are a staggering amount of candidates who are playing bystander, and I’ve yet to hear anybody who has viable suggestions on how to fix the mess this country is in. (The possible exception is Joe Biden, who at least has a PLAN about Iraq – right, wrong or indifferent.)
I don’t need someone like Obama to tell me the obvious – that things need to change. That Washington politics need to change. That the country needs to change. DUH! I know the voting public seems to be getting more apathetic and stupid, but I don’t think we’re THAT gullible yet. (At least I hope not!)
Tell me specifically HOW, WHEN and WHO will pay for it, and then I’ll pay some attention to someone – ANYONE. It’s really easy to play the blame game, and sling mud about inconsequential things and bicker about how candidates are raising money or brag about how much they have hustled out of the public.
The past 6 years should be testament enough about mixing politics and religion, you know, our President that is both a member of the Religious Right and the GOP. At this point, I’ll give more credibility to the candidate that DOESN’T talk about religion, which I think, quite frankly, is a personal matter between me and God, and it shouldn’t bleed into politics. (Yes, I know if too often DOES.)
As for Barack Hussein Obama – does anyone REALLY think that he has a prayer to be elected to President or VP? The sad reality is the most of the public won’t even delve into his past – they won’t get past his NAME anyway, with all the crap going on in the Middle East and the long memories from 9/11. People who don’t know will simply ASSUME Obama is Muslim, because in the past 30-40 years, usually a black man in America with an Arabic first and last name, more often than not, IS a Black Muslim, that awareness brought into focus by the more famous Black Muslims that have been in the news. Perception, too often in this country, CREATES the reality. No, I realize that just having an Arabic name does NOT automatically make you a Muslim, but then prejudice never takes the road of rational thought. Just look how long prejudices stayed alive against ALL Asians after Pearl Harbor, Korea and Viet Nam.

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gofuckyourself on April 18, 2007 at 11:56 am

Converting from Judaism to Christianity is quite natural, because that is just what Jesus ChristÔø?s teaching is all about. Thus, Christianity can be considered as a perfection of Judaism, at least from the standpoint of Christians, although Jesus is still rejected by Judaism until today. In contrast, Islam is a direct antipode of both Judaism and Christianity. To come to this conclusion, you have to study Islam a little bit further in order to free yourself from prejudice. Although Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it rejects Him of being son of God and that Jesus died on the cross. In fact, Islam considers Jews as pigs and Christians apes, as recited in a number of verses in the Qur’an, specifically Suras 5:60-65, 2:65 and 7:166.

Paris Hilton on April 25, 2007 at 1:57 pm

I invite all of you on my Paris Hilton

Paris Hilton on April 25, 2007 at 1:59 pm

Thanks, Debbie, for banging this drum. I agree that at this point serious evidence of Obama’s “allegiance” to Islam is slim. However, considering the fanaticism of Islam and the practice of taqqiyah, it would not surprise me if he has strong sympathies towards Islam.
I also concur that fighting Islam constitutes the “war of our lives.” Other than natural disaster, there is no greater threat to civilization than Islamic fundamentalism.
Although I don’t play the “right v. left” game or label myself with terms such as “liberal” or “conservative,” I am glad to see that there are others who understand this grave threat, including the heinous and diabolical Sharia Law, as practiced by the Shiites. (Sunni Sharia Law is apparently less harsh.)
Acharya S
http://www.TruthBeKnown.com

Acharya S on May 16, 2007 at 2:15 pm

Your research is the philosopher’s stone and I look foward 2 Barack Hussein Obama B’n the last Calif of the world Insha-Allah LaihahahilAllah or Laghalabilla’Illah

ImamKashif on June 21, 2007 at 9:38 pm

“islamofascists”? “caliphate”? oh, geez, you right wing redneck freaks crack me up! you really gotta stop reading and listenin’ to Savage, Limburger and the rest of those corporate lying bastards! hahahahahaha! hell, the muslims can’t even get their own part of the world together, and they’re gonna CONQUER the USA. oh man, I’m laughin’ so hard here! hahahahahahahaha!

tru-patriots-r-LIBERAL on July 3, 2007 at 5:40 pm

I read article about this man in newsweek… your text is interesting too. Thanks and i wait for more.

tomekg on September 10, 2007 at 7:45 am

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!
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niezabudka on September 21, 2007 at 8:13 pm

I admit that I have not read EVERY comment posted on this page, but one thing that struck me was the topic of who enrolled Obama listing him as a Muslim in school. It has been my experience that if the “head of the household” is an active member of one particular faith, he will teach it and it’s edicts in the household himself. Obama needed not learn anything from the Koran in school if his step-father was a practicing Muslim. And who has ever heard of one who isn’t a practicing? I am sure that he learned more at home about that religion than most children are learning in so-called “Christian” homes. In fact, the majority of house-holds in the United States list themselves as “Christian” even if they have never stepped foot into a church as an adult. They just list that as their “religion of choice” since that is what their parents or grand-parents were. If Christian and Jewish children were taught in the home about their religion as much as Muslim children are, there would not be an empty seat in any Church or Synagogue in the whole United States of America! Muslim children are not only taught about their religion, but how to follow it’s rules in their day-to-day life! How do I know this for sure? Unfortunately, I live in an apartment complex with thin walls and my neighbors on either side are muslim. It is HARD to miss their meetings, the prayers, or the mothers admonishing their children not to play with the non-muslim children. And if you don’t think that muslims in the USA are teaching their kid’s hate, then explain to me why I saw a little boy playing one day with a stick, running around screaming, “Death to the infidels!” It was not a kid that I recognized from the complex, but that does not mean that there are not ones here that are being taught the same hate-filled theology. It is enough to make the arms on your arm stand on end! I entreat EVERYONE to learn as much as possible about EVERY candidate, especially Obama, and then vote and in informed citizen!

AquaLady on September 26, 2007 at 10:44 am

The claim that Barack Obama is Muslim has been debunked on Snopes.com:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
You should check your facts before you run this stuff.

McQuirk on October 2, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Why is it that if someone in this country makes an anti-semetic remark or uses the “n-word” there’s a huge uproar but when it comes to Islam any fool like Debbie Schlussel can say whatever they choose?
Debbie, you should keep your trap shut until you know what you’re talking about. You claim to know the truth about Islam but the misinformation you keep spewing proves that you’re nothing but an ignorant hick.

Quest4lucidity on October 8, 2007 at 1:47 pm

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Hotel Gdynia on October 25, 2007 at 5:31 am

I think Barack or baracka or whatever, cannot be president if he can not put his right hand on his chest and say the pledge of alligiance. There is no way I will vote for him. I can’t vote for someone to be President of the United States if he cannot do the pledge of alligiance. Maybe I am wrong but I just don’t feel that I am.

jakrvinocur on November 8, 2007 at 3:43 pm

Are you people seriously going to demoralize and degrade Barak Obama because of his NAME? What’s wrong with you people? He didn’t choose his name, and he didn’t choose his family roots. Every one of your families could have been Nazi enthuiasts, or heretic Islamic extremists, but you don’t see anyone complaining about you. Barak HUSSEIN Obama is his own person, who can think for himself and choose his own path in life. Why is he so horribly bad because of his name? If his name was John Johnson, you wouldn’t be writing these neo-conservative, ignorant Nazi comments. He’s a person. A human being just like the rest of you self-righteous idiots. Quit being such mindless, self-absorbed, neo-conservative robots and learn to think for yourselves and make rational, unbiased opinions. You people make me sick.

Think4YourSelf on November 9, 2007 at 8:32 pm

OK – so maybe it is interesting to know some of the man’s family history. However, I have never heard of Christians opposing conversion. Isn’t that the whole goal of Christianity – to bring all of the people to Jesus!?! So, now, only those who start off as Christians are both fit to be considered Christian AND fit to be considered president of the USA? Does any one besides me think this is crazy!?!

sjg on November 14, 2007 at 4:16 pm

Excuse me Debbie: in Judaism, being Jewish is passed down by the mother, regardless of whether one practices Judaism or not. Moral of the story: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Meaning: most Christians are Jews by tradition, regardless of whether they practice Judaism or identify with Jews or not – you too, heh heh!

intuneguy on December 3, 2007 at 12:46 am

I think that Barack will be good president for USA, but i am not US so it is no my interest…

tomekg on December 6, 2007 at 4:45 pm

This is crazy!!!!!! His connections are scary on so many levels. Why, except for contempt for the American way of life, would anyone even consider him. This is a great way to see who the real enemies are. We need to understand that all this will end badly. The majority will only bend so far then break. Any futher and we will need to change our name to “United World of America”. sick!

aManSpeaks on December 11, 2007 at 7:48 pm

Personally I don’t care if he is Muslim or not. So what if he went to a Islamic school when he was a child. Hell, we already have an Islamic member in congress.
I don’t care if Obama is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, Bhuddist, Jew, or whatever. All I care about is can he get the job done. What is his views on abortion, gay marriage, trade policies, national healthcare, and IMPORTANT ISSUES. Religion needs to be irrelevant to politics. Church and State, gotta keep them separated.

Ares Draxus on December 18, 2007 at 1:34 am

wooow Is this how intelligent americans are…..thank God I dont live in the US…

faddy80 on December 19, 2007 at 7:00 am

OK…Debbie, first of all…you look constipated in your picture – try using your favorite laxitive.
Now here’s the problem with you…YOU ARE TOO STUPID to have your own website and to be posting ignorant statements. You have made a complete fool of yourself by exposing your ignorance to the world. Actually, I don’t even remember how I found your site, but you caught my attention with your ridculously boneheaded fictional story.
Let me set the record straight…Just because a child’s FATHER is Muslim does not mean that child will also accept Islam as a adult. Islam, like all religions, is a system of beliefs, not a human gene. Therefore, Debbie, as a thinking adult, anyone has the right to choose whether or not they believe in the teachings of Islam and it don’t matta who yo’ daddy waz….You should learn to Google some basic info before you go off making ridiculous claims.
BTW…Islam is actually a very logical and simple religion if you actually take the time to truly learn and understand. You would do yourself a great injustice if you try to learn Islam from a Christian or Jew that has negative slight. It would be best if you read about it on your own and then actually spoke to a PRACTICING Muslim. Debbie, a PRACTICING Muslim is one who actually follows the teachings of Islam. A Madrassa is a school where the basics (aka fundamentals) of Islam are taught. It’s kinda like Sunday school for those Christians…you know? The word “Madrassa” is just an Arabic word for religious school. It’s not very complex…I hope you have the mental capacity to understand. You can also look at it as Bible Study except it’s Qu’ran Study.
I am a proud Muslim that was born by German parents, raised, and educated in the USA. I am a VP of a very large technology firm and I have a bunch of Jews and Christians working for me.
I still don’t understand why we Americans are so scared of Muslim Americans….True, practicing Muslims are actually the MOST sincere and honest people you will ever meet…That’s what captured me when I was introduced to Islam. That’s why I converted. Islam is the ONLY pure religion out there…everything else has been contaminated. I don’t trust molestor priests…they want screw little boys under the guise of religion…hypocrites. I don’t trust zionist Jews who are bloodthirsty bastards looking to kill every innocent Muslim in Palestine and justify by talking about their “land” bullshit. The blood of the innocent will be on their hands and they will have to answer to GOD (AKA ALLAH) on the final day of judgement!! ALLAH knows EVERYTHING!!! HE will punish those who kill…everybody knows that, right? That ain’t no secret..
So Debbie, before you continue to make a fool of yourself, please do yourself some good and learn the truth about Islam.

TheRealDeal on December 21, 2007 at 2:51 am

The name Baraka is also swahili for blessing. I happen to have worked with Baraka Senior at the Department of Water Development in Nairobi. Not once did he talk about his religion. We went regularly to “watering holes” for buzz. If Baraka Obama says he is Christian who are you to say he is not?I thought Christianity, and other religions are a matter between the converted and God? I would rather leave that for Almighty Himself to judge, certainly not you. By the way Obama pays profound tribute to his mother in his book. I think she was a very intelligent and nice white lady… after reading the book that’s the picture Obama paints, not bad for a mother he loves (still loves.) I am really baffled when you claim that he treated his fathers side with notoriety but not his Mom. Debbie the white society at the time rejected him. What was he supposed to do? Be serious if you were to walk in a black persons skin even for a day Debbie you would be the worst hate monger there was.. All along some of us have felt the need to work together for the survival of humanity but with attitudes like yours Debbie who would want to go down that path? When you spew hat rate you get hate rate back. For goodness sakes try civility. By the way what is your religion? Let us not judge others lest we be judged Debbie.

Kwelikweli on December 25, 2007 at 12:37 am

I don’t think Barack should be judged by his fathers background or religion. just because his father believes in something doesn’t mean Barack does. i think this country is ready for a little change, i mean we went traditional with the last president and look what happened!! he told everyone that he has military experience and the only thing he is experienced in is getting special treatment in the National Guard and not going oversea’s because his daddy had alot of money in the oil wells. but he has the audacity to send our men and women over to Iraq to get killed!! im outraged!! i say vote for barack or hilary well anyone really we need a change in this country!!!!!

camlane on December 28, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Camlane you are sooo right. Religious extremist is always a problem. When people act on the basis that “the father above” told them to act a certain way then we find ourselves in a big mess. When Muslim extremists kill to become martyrs we find ourselves in a big mess as well. This is why the idea of separation between religion and state is always a good one. Camlane most Politicians are willing to send someones else child to war but will not send theirs….. if they so believe in their cause why shouldn’t they be willing to send their kids as well… Barack should be evaluated for who Barack is not his father was.
kwelikweli

Kwelikweli on December 29, 2007 at 1:18 pm

Wow!! It’s finally all uncovered on him! He sure does know how to lie to us Americans!
Please….no one place this liar in the Presidency position!! Who knows what he could do to all of us once he’s in command…
If he truly is of Islam decent, I’m sure he has all kinds of cruel plans for us!!
I’m scared. I can’t believe he got this far!!

Anonymous on January 7, 2008 at 6:58 am

AS I read a comment you posted on December 18, 2006, I was disgusted at your ignorance. First of all, above all, CHRISTIANS are built of LOVE. Your apparant HATE for another culture (Islam) condemns your respect from the start!.
Now the BIG question to you and everyone else who is misled about PATRIOTISM is :
“When did a war on terrorism become a war on Islam?”
You ignorant, pervasive-minded, mis-educating, mis-educated, genetically deprived woman!
YOU are of the people who fight with the demons against God’s people. You have done EXACTLY what Jesus rebukes! May your soul find repentence and mercy in the spirit of GOD, who NO man has seen.
Peace be unto you.

Rico Hamilton on January 8, 2008 at 12:07 pm

Ok…. what the HELL does his color or his fathers heritage have to do with how he will run this country. WHY are people ONLY going to vote for this man JUST because of the color of his skin? HE HAS ALL THE BLACK, HISPANIC AND ASIAN VOTES by default just because he’s “black”. I also want to know why he seems to be ashamed of his white heritage? when he is asked what he considers himself to be, he immediately answers “african american”. I don’t understand. I want to know why people, some of you as well, why you focus on such trivial things like color and religion when that has nothing to do with running this country. His color wont bring our troops home, or get uninsured people some health care. His religion plays no part in fixing the economy or helping homeowners keep their homes.
Its people like you, and i know my post will be deleted, but its people like you that make the united states look bad. In reality, washington and this country in its entirety is broken. We need the best man for the job. It doesn’t matter what color he is or where his beliefs lie. Let him pray to whatever the hell god he chooses, it doesn’t mean he will strap a bomb to himself and blow us up. mUSLIMS are not bad people, there are the extremist “muslims” who are the bad ones. They are actually their own hypocricies… true muslims do not or believe what the extremists do. And if Obama chooses to call himself a christian… let him. WHO CARES?
Lets remember what this country needs.. and forget the mindless stuff that we dont need… such as focusing on ones color or religious beliefs. Instead of moving ahead to a better world, it only keeps us behind.
I AM NOT a democrat, but my god, lets focus on reality… lets focus on fixing our wonderful country. As Americans, lets stand together against all different points of view and decide who the best person for the job is.

SARAHKATHERINE on January 8, 2008 at 1:38 pm

the previous post is a perfect example of ignorance. this reader is apparently ignorant of the fact that islamic ideology is a polital ideology and the president is above all a politician.
and i tell you as an ex-muslim: in Islam, Muslims are instructed to “defeat the infidels by any means”( sitation from Quran ) and in other places in Quran it is said that deception and lying is allowed if by these means you can destoy the infidels.
now you see why Obama Hussein is not so particularly troubled by falsely claiming to be a chritian because with this he can reach a position to bring to the fruition all the efforts of Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi who has foretold that he can convert “all the population of the US into Shia Islam”

Islamist on January 9, 2008 at 3:37 pm

I don’t know if it’s amusing or sad that people are perpetuating this hoax that Obama is Muslim, sworn in on a Koran, turns his back at the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance, etc. Mostly I think it’s sad – the amusing part of it is that the type of person that would believe this or repeat it without investigating it is the type of person that would be duped by the old Nigerian check scheme.
For those of you who still think this sounds like nonsense…it is.
Obama has never been a Muslim.
Obama was not sworn in on a Koran (that was Kieth Ellison)
Obama has never turned his back on the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance.
Don’t take my word for it – do a little research. Still don’t believe it? Where are the pictures, videos, papers, etc. that would prove any of the allegations?
Don’t you think that it would be plastered everywhere if any of this was true?

mikeyk on January 9, 2008 at 6:12 pm

I am very passionate about the issue being discussed and this is a few feelings from a youth in America…
First of all this is a statement from Obama’s church.
-We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.-
You can read that paragraph and take it as you want to, but I feel America is a melting pot of cultures and races; not one race is better than any other. And I’m glad the church is true to their native land of Africa and not America!!!! As a christian myself I do not think a church should ever claim itself a black church, or a white church. If all my church talked of in its bulletin was its “white” people then I think it would probably cause a riot. Also, this church is a very liberal church; it isn’t the Church of Christ affiliation as it’s name makes it appear. The values and practices are quite opposite actually of the Church of Christ. Why isn’t anyone attacking these issues and delving deeper??? Even if Obama isn’t muslim, the fact that he attends a church that only mention’s african americans is somewhat racist in nature. Insert “white” where black is in that statement and see how many get livid over it. Does America not learn from history? Do you not think people were brain-washed in the Nazi era thinking that that sort of behavior was ok? I feel America is brain-washed and no wonder foreign countries in Europe see the American people as purely ignorant.
More importantly, whether Obama claims to be muslim or not he was born and raised with it surrounding him and it is instilled in his mind. He does not seem to be for muslim religon but he is definitely not against it which in my opinion is very scary. I was born in a die hard democrat family and I am very open-minded but its hard for me not to vote democrat because of what my family believes. Read books on raising children and you will find how greatly a child is impacted by age three and how most will not change thereafter.
If everyone has forgotten, not very long ago some muslim men went to our schools and deceived quite a bit of people while obtaining there licenses to fly planes. Do you not think this took many years to plan???? These men deceived passengers, airline personel, security…not one person was suspicous. And then thousands of lives later two towers fell in ruins as brave courageous American’s of Flight 93 took down a plane. I want to be an American like the brave souls of Flight 93 and fight deception for the lives of the American people.
I am not oppossed to a black president, in fact I think it is great. But we live in a christian nation and it was founded on christianity. As we fall away from christianity our nation begins to crumble just as so many great dinisties have before us. I am an American, I am a christian, and I am more importantly proud of it. I support those who have faught for our country with my hand over my heart no matter what patriotic song is played as our president should. Sure all of this about Obama may be conspiracy but if it is then he should address the issue and Americans need to start asking before once again we are deceived…

American on January 10, 2008 at 5:37 am

Numerous christian martyrs were killed because they refused to accept the muslim religion, abandoned it having held it previously, or, in many cases because they were falsely accused of having formerly been muslim and of abandoning that belief. In the muslim world, to be a former muslim is a crime, but for people not part of the muslim world, to have been a former muslim should not be viewed as any sort of crime or offense. Likewise, to have a muslim father, mother, other relative, or associate should not be viewed as a crime. There is no evidence Obama was or is a muslim. That his paternal relatives were muslims should in no way disqualify him to serve in public office in the US.

Christianman on January 11, 2008 at 11:36 pm

Strangely enough (if? strangely) Arab Muslims do not arise in me any negative feelings whatsoever. I and my family had many encounters with them, primarily in their shops and on the market, and I can say nothing but good about those Arabs I met (not many, about 20). It’s of course, not too much to make any generalization. Besides, they may just pretend, but I, who nervously feel any human being till the very depth of my intuition, felt overall normally socializing with them. And that’s why, and also because I know some Arabic and always tried my chance to speak Arabic with them, I learned, how deeply (not by words, who may cheat) but by heart they hate and despise blacks – all blacks, including Muslims. And I know by myself that they have all rights to feel so. It is BLACKS and primarily BLACK MUSLIMS, not just ANY MUSLIMS, who are human-hated criminals. BLACKS usually convert to Islam while in prison. They hate and try to harm/rob/burglarize/kill anybody WHO IS NOT BLACK MUSLIM. I was a victim surviving several violent crimes against me, all committed by BLACKS – and none by Arabs. And I know plenty of Arabs who have been victims of BLACK crimes and who, actually, feel like me, as they shared their stories and their feelings with me. Each of BLACKS dreams to be a king – and trample anybody else by his foot. THEY are the real enemies of the civilization here – and there too. And THEY try – and always would try – to get the upper hand in all terrorist groups and organizations.

MarcAurelio on January 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm

I think it is a mistake. The latest poster concerning Arab Muslims has been posted by MarcAurelio. You need to check the verification data. I am sorry for my part for this error in which I have no part. My user name is again – MarcAurelio. Christianman is somebody else. I will try sign out and sign in again to check.

MarcAurelio on January 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm

It works now. I am back to myself. Of course, Hussein ibn Saddama is an enemy of USA precisely because he tries to conceal his Muslim preferences (I am not a fan of USA, by the way, and I have never concealed this fact. I just wait until I’ll have enough means to return with my family back to Europe). I think, this is his mistake, that he is cheating about this issue. He is doing it because, though he is very slimy, he is very primitive too. It would be much better for him to admit it openly. By the way, returning to Arabs I met – none of them who was a Muslim (not all of them were, by the way) tried to conceal this fact. Would any of them be a terrorist – it would be another story, of course. MarcAurelio.

MarcAurelio on January 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm

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Re: Obama’s Church 6-Jan-08 01:58 pm Please read and go to this church’s website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama’s church… B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn’t look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get? Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along. To think that Obama has even the slightest
chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below:
This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

noname on January 15, 2008 at 4:36 am

Debbie, You are using slippery language to besmirch Obama’s character. You use the phrase describing his Kenyan father “apparently a Muslim” without giving any evidence of his father’s religion. You state that Obama “may think he’s a Christian” with no proof that he is not a Christian. You use the bigoted statement, “we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam” characterizing all the Islamic people as the terrorists we are fighting. Obama knows that his 4 years as a boy in a Muslim country will be used against him by the misinformed. But there is no reason to disbelieve the reports by the Chicago Sun Times, and the Christian Science Monitor, that in spite of his mostly agnostic parents, he is a Christian and an active member of the Trinity United Church of Christ ever since he answered an altar call in 1988. I trust Obama’s faith description more than I do the misinformed words of others.

rcphylosopher on January 15, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Actually, you got it wrong. Obama has never been declared a muslim. The school that he went to for two years is described as public school open to all faiths, not a muslim school. Obama never was nor is a muslim. It is a negative slant, put out by right wing wackos who don’t know what time of day it is.

agapelife on January 17, 2008 at 9:07 am

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