Debbie
is this a joke? What does a murderer has anything to do with religion. In last three weeks we have numerpus school shooting and most of the alledged criminals are christian. Should we blame the Bible or Jesus because they might have read that or they are christians.
Why are you mudding the issue. Let us focus
Religion in this story has no relevance just like no relevence on the school shooting

thirdgoat on October 3, 2006 at 2:40 pm

Islam welcomes people who would blame their problems on others to justify racial murder.
Debbie is right, again.
Goggle hitler and grand mufti of jerusalem 1943.

Walt from michigan on October 3, 2006 at 3:48 pm

Debbie, Thankfully you know very well this isn’t a joke as the simple cryptic message the killer said about “being with the nation”. I don’t know about Colorado, but it’s to bad the pig didn’t committe the crime in Texas, so we would only have to put up with him maybe for 8 more years instead of who knows how many.

MQ on October 3, 2006 at 3:58 pm

So with that line of reasoning the terrible killing on Colorado and Pensyivania in the school is result of the killer’s religion in that case Christian

thirdgoat on October 3, 2006 at 4:34 pm

It’s “black-collar (i.e., race-based) crime”
If you’ve read up on the Nation of Islam, the Black Panther Party, Malvo & Muhammand, some David Horowitz, etc. this is nothing new. What is newer is the tie-in, direct or indirect with Amerabian Islam. Islam is the catalyst for American-born World Can’t Wait/”The Fire *This* Time” inciters.

Jeremiah on October 3, 2006 at 5:08 pm

thirdgoat,
All men are created equal. All religions are not.
True, murders with a more or less Christian background are more or less Christian murderers. But this post highlights not just his background what he did during the crime committed, what may have motivated or aggravated the crime. Thus it carries or should carry significant weight in court.
How many murderers declare, “In the name of Christ, you die!” How many churches train their young congregants to commit murder?

Jeremiah on October 3, 2006 at 5:52 pm

Hey Turd Goat,
Congratulations: you just stepped in your own pile once again. I just heard about the killing in Colorado but, in the case of the Pennsylvania shootings, religion had no part in it. The shooter was a wacked-out pedophile who had been a walking time bomb for 20 years. He admitted he had sexually assaulted children years ago and had recent thoughts of it again. Add that to an already twisted mind, the loss of a child at birth, and a ton of other unresolved psychotic issues and there you have it. The bottom line is, though, religion never came up anywhere in the picture. Sure, maybe he was mad at God but he didn’t go out and kill these kids in His name; he did it because he was a whacko. In the case of the Muslims, their barbarisim and killing is all done for the glory of Allah and hoping they’ll get a piece of those 72 virgins waiting for them. Boy, these inbred finalists are bigger suckers than I thought…

Gunny on October 4, 2006 at 11:04 am

“On John Muhammad” (a concise, good start from a liberal about how liberals abandon scrupulous, horse-sense logic in racially-motivated murder against whites):
http://guanubian.blogspot.com/essays/muhammad.html
The questions he asks about John Muhammad should be standard when diligently inquiring into cases like the one in Colorado.

Jeremiah on October 4, 2006 at 2:52 pm

He killed because allegdly he was mad at god. He wanted to avenge for god by god. These are allgations and we can not blame criminal as this for their religious affiliation.yOU CONVENIENTLY left out the colorado incident because that does not fit your argument. Also he killed 5 people and 5 are in grave danger and you are being an totally illogical
also can we blame the christan because of groups like the following. Remember religious affiliation has nothing do with crime

thirdgoat on October 4, 2006 at 11:31 am