August 30, 2006, - 8:22 am

Islamic Terrorism By Auto: 3rd Incident in a Year; “Living While Infidel”

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* AS READ ON AIR BY RUSH LIMBAUGH. THANKS, RUSH! *
**** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATES ****
When I first read about a San Francisco motorist who deliberately drove into lots of people and murdered at least one, critically injuring many others and ending in front of the Jewish Community Center (JCC), I wondered what the man’s name was. Was it a Muslim name?
Yes, it was: Omeed Aziz Popal, an Afghani Muslim. The BS reason given by his relatives for his attempt at mass murder of non-Muslims: He was upset over the start of his stressful arranged Islamic marriage. “Religion of Peace” displaying yet more “Peace.” Hate of American Infidel victims had nothing to do with it, right? That’s why he drove far from his home in Fremont to the San Francisco JCC.
And, uh, wouldn’t the stress be on the Afghani bride shipped here to become his instant sex- and house-slave?
It’s not surprising that he turned out to be a Muslim, because Popal’s method isn’t new, in terms of Islamic terrorism in America.
In fact, it’s the third such incident of Islamic Terror by Auto in the last year. You’ve heard of “Driving While Black,” and the alleged “Flying While Arab”? Welcome to Living/Walking While Infidel (or trying to live, anyway).


Islamic Auto Terrorist Omeed Aziz Popal

In March, , an Iranian Muslim–inspired by Allah and hatred for America–purposely drove his Jeep into students at the University of North Carolina.
And in December, , a Palestinian Jordanian Muslim, drove his car into a Home Depot in Arizona, for the purpose of mass destruction of the store and those in it. He wanted to set the place ablaze. He, too, inspired by his anger toward America and his Koran in his trunk.
And then, there are the other incidents of Dr. Wameeth Fadhli, a Muslim medical doctor in Texas, who did a drive-by, “random” shooting of a bicyclist (tip from Sue Bob’s Diary). A Muslim in Baltimore, Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar, shooting and murdering a Jewish guy at a movie theater. A Pakistani Muslim, Naveed Haq, in Seattle shooting women at the Jewish Federation, murdering one.
But these are all lone, random guys. And all of them just happen to be “mentally unstable” Muslims who deliberately target non-Muslims. Right, ? The latest one ended, by “coincidence,” at the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco, where he mowed over two people–7 are now critically injured, one dead. But it and the Seattle incident and the Baltimore incident (and the before that) have nothing to do with Islamic anti-Semitism.
Right, ? Just asking.
**** UPDATE: KTVU-San Francisco video reports that Omeed Aziz Popal declared himself “a terrorist.” But police say he isn’t. Whatever. Thanks to reader Jeff for the tip.
**** UPDATE #2: Reader Kenneth H. writes:

I know my way around SF very well. The SF
Bay Area news channels and politicians are
being intentionally vague about where/why
the Driver attacked.
A few stations reported that he struck in “Laurel
Heights”. What they are *not* reporting was
why he chose that location. He drove along
the front sidewalk of a new, prominent JCC.
One station rolled video of the crime scene.
The camera showed bicycle wreckage with
a brick wall in the background. The wall was
cut off at the top of the frame – slightly higher
than the mangled handle bars. Actually, the
wall rises two stories. It’s the front of the JCC!
A few stations reported that he also struck
at “California & Fillmore”, a yuppie area.
Unfortunately, none are reporting the precise
spot where he jumped the curb. Two doors before
that intersection, on the same side of Street
the criminal was driving on, is the front of a
rather large, ornate Refom Synagogue (Cong
Sheerith Israel).
The Mayor of SF is saying that the path of
destruction was “random. The reporters are
telling me that the Driver was mentally unstable
(they used the same spin to excuse the Muslim
fellow who shot up the Seattle JCC a fews ago).
I am so sick of obfuscation.
Back in the old country the criminals are not called
deranged. They are called martyrs.

AMEN to that last statement.
**** UPDATE #3: Reader Kenneth H. writes again to correct some of the above:

in a previous e-mail i wrote that Cong Sheerith Israel was
only 2 doors away from the intersection of California & Fillmore.
actually, the Synagogue is a BLOCK from the intersection.
according to yahoo! maps, the block distance is 0.10 miles.
i *believe* that the Synagogue is currently closed due to
seismic concerns. next door to the sanctuary (on California St.)
is the Cong’s social-hall/classroom building. i do not know if
that building was “Open for Biz” yesterday.




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109 Responses

Debbie, you raised a good point a while back when you said the enemy isnít at the gates, theyíre already inside. You are so right. While the Feds are supposedly concentrating on the threat coming from Al-Qaeda cells in America, they have their heads in the sand (or perhaps in their behind) regarding the true fifth column of Islam. This fifth column of course being the seemingly lone Muslim terrorists living among us. They go to work or school everyday, and wait for the opportune time to strike. I canít believe that they truly are lone wolves. They are part of a loose knit pack with a general strategy of attack. Too many Jewish and Christian Americans arenít connecting these attacks. We need to remember the story of boiling a frog, heat the water slowly enough and the frog will soon die in boiling hot water before it realizes whatís happening.

Rocky on August 30, 2006 at 9:52 am

Catchy phrase! Anyway, to expand on what Jihad Denial Syndrome means: 1) Ignoring the suspect’s religion 2) Ignoring the suspect’s targets 3) and ignoring the suspect’s ideology. Then there is a prospensity to classify it as unrelated and anomalous incident and to deny the terrorist nature of the suspect’s conduct. Add it all up and JDS, is about looking the other way and denying we’re at war and there are people want Jews and non-Muslim Americans dead, in our midst. We are unable to comprehend in truth all of the above are 1) Muslims 2) who murder infidels as a result of deliberate choice of target and 3) They are committed to Jihad, e.g the victory of Islam over the infidel and that is the ideology justifying their murderous actions. Further, it is part and parcel of a war and there is nothing random about at least three incidents (unless you believe in the Tooth Fairy) in the past year and they are terrorists. The sooner we face reality in America, the better off we will all be. Given the widespread persistence of JDS, the question is when will we begin doing so?

NormanF on August 30, 2006 at 10:27 am

Thanks for the link to my neglected blog.
I have become particularly afraid lately about the possibility of Mexico aiding our enemies and smuggling in more of these “lone whackos”. As a Texan, I have a deep interest in Texas history and have been reading the 1938 book, The Texas Rangers by Walter Prescott Webb. There is a chapter in there regarding the aid Mexico gave German infiltrators against the US during WWI.
Additionally, though we think that the recent “raids” across the river by what appears to be Mexican soldiers is new–it is actually a very old story in Texas history. Furthermore, the bandito raids of the 1800’s and early 1900’s (said banditos being protected by the Mexican government–and some of the Mexican-Americans on this side of the border) acutely remind me of Hezbollah incursions into Israel.
Al Queda combined with the adherents of Reconquista (a concept that has been alive and well since Texas broke from Mexico and since the US war with Mexico) is a scary prospect to me. Mexico has never been our friend and we should be wary and vigilent on the border. More is at stake than our Government and the MSM lets on.
I wonder if Bush has read his Texas history?

Sue Bob on August 30, 2006 at 11:09 am

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/29/BAGAEKRCO55.DTL
SUV GOES MENTAL IN SF
Please note that the SF Chronicle avoided any inference that the maniac might have been a “muslim.”
However the Chronic article mentions an amazing FOURTEEN TIMES that the vehicle was an SUV.
That’ll be the Big Media’s full support of the War on SUVs. Good to know!

Jack Bauer on August 30, 2006 at 11:27 am

The LIBERAL media are still engaging in “Jihad denial” by not keeping the American people informed as to our REAL enemy. (Gee, what did Jilted Carroll say – “The only way to really address this, to understand better, is to be better informed citizens.” Well, the media is STILL keeping us purposely uninformed.)
These people do NOT come here to become Americans. As I’ve repeatedly said; Muzlums are Muzlumz first, second, and last. Their only allegiance is to Islam. We should throw these barbarians back to their Stone Age shitholes from whence they came.
BTW, that is ONE UGLY BASTARD! Just imagine the gene pool and the spawn he would’ve produced.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 12:26 pm

Well, what a coincidence. Just another random event from a “depressed” American citizen. What this shows is that the MSM and President Bush and his close circle of advisors STILL DON’T GET IT!
Here’s one sanitized account of this latest incident from our INSANE media which makes the man seem just depressed:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/15393343.htm
Note to the MSM and President Bush:
JUDAEO/CHRISTIAN AMERICANS HAVE INCOMPATIBLE CULTURES WITH ISLAM. THEY DO NOT, NEVER HAVE, NOR EVER WILL MIX! DO NOT LET ANY MORE OF THEM IMMIGRATE INTO THE US. BECAUSE OF YOUR INSANE BELIEFS THAT ALL CULTURES AND PEOPLE ARE ASSIMILATABLE WE ARE DYING! WAKE UP NOW BEFORE EVEN WORSE THINGS OCCUR!

Phoenix on August 30, 2006 at 12:26 pm

“Hate of American Infidel victims had nothing to do with it, right?”
Once again, any evidence that it did? Anything at all besides hysterical speculation?
You mention three times in your piece that
the rampage ended at the Jewish Community Center — three times! The article clearly states “The SUV struck two people in front of the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco on California Street, a few blocks from where the rampage ended.”
It was a few blocks away!
You are precious, Debbie.

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 12:36 pm

ALSO, START INTENSE PROFILING OF MIDDLE-EASTERNERS AT AIR PORTS, INFILTRATE THEIR MOSQUES AND RECORD WHAT IS BEING SAID. ANY ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-CHRISTIAN, OR ANTI-SEMETIC DOCTRINE BEING TAUGHT SHOULD BE GROUNDS FOR IMMEDIATE DEPORTATION FROM THE US.
UNTIL YOU GET THE MORAL COURAGE TO DEAL WITH THE ISLAMOJIHADS THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE, MANY OF US ARE GOING TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO EXPOSE YOU AND GET YOUR BUTTS THROWN OUT OF OFFICE!! WE’RE SICK OF THIS AND WE WANT IT DEALT WITH NOW!
(Sorry for the all caps, but I’ve had it with all of this!!)

Phoenix on August 30, 2006 at 12:42 pm

Wow.. todays version of events in the Associated Press article (linked off of Drudge) has even replaced his middle name of “Aziz” to simply “A.”
Now why would they do that?
See: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060830/D8JQN4HO0.html
I also like the comment in the article “No weapons were found on the suspect”
I guess you can’t put a 4000 pound vehicle “on” yourself, but I’d still call it a weapon when you run over 14 people!
Brian

75273 on August 30, 2006 at 12:45 pm

One of Hugh Hewitt’s commenters ID’d the city of Fremont (where the killer’s started his day) as the Bay Area’s “Dearbornistan.” A city named after a great Ameican explorer and the very first Republican presidential candidate (1856).
Remember that name: Fremont. (Too bad it was wasted on Popal.)

Jeremiah on August 30, 2006 at 1:14 pm

Smoking gun on LGF (w/ video): Popal called himself a terrorist (though the testosterone-challenged reporter tries to quash that fact)
link:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22332_SF_Driver_Called_Himself_a_Terrorist&only

Jeremiah on August 30, 2006 at 1:26 pm

This denial by the authorities of terrorism in order to protect the Muslims will only backfire as the public sees these obvious terrorist activities and the ridiculous denial of the authorities and the MSM.
Their excuse for not calling it terrorism is that it wasn’t planned by a group. Why aren’t random acts of violence by individuals following a violent ideology also classified as terrorism?
By the way, we are beginning to see the impact on Fox news of the investment by the Saudi billionaire. They didn’t report on this until it was sanitized.

Facts of Life on August 30, 2006 at 1:50 pm

“UPDATE: KTVU-San Francisco video reports that Omeed Aziz Popal declared himself ‘a terrorist.'”
For anyone concerned with accuracy and the truth, KTVU-TV reported that “a witness” said that the perp called himself a terrorist. KTVU didn’t even report his name.
Debbie, when I read the hysteria and inaccuracies on your website, I can’t help but think that terrorists have truly won you and your followers over.

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 2:22 pm

Avalon:
In that clip the reporter looks so dismayed at donig his job – reporting that a witness said the T-word. Gee, maybe he needs grief-counseling. (Medic!!) And his floppy combover – not “the answer” – is blowin’ in wind.
(btw, that’s quite the metrosexual handle you’ve got)

Jeremiah on August 30, 2006 at 2:38 pm

To LIBERALS, NOTHING is an act of terrorism. The 9/11 murderers weren’t terrorists, either. They were just a bunch of disgruntled tent-merchants.
I also LOVE the law enforcement propaganda at work, as well.
EVERYTIME something happens, within just a few minutes law enforcement officials say that it’s not terrorism. How the hell do they know without doing an investigation?! They already have their minds made up about declaring way in advance that nothing is terrorism.
I find this very hypocritical and duplicitous because, on the one hand they tell us to keep a sharp eye and report anything. On the other hand, anytime anything DOES happen, right away they say it’s not terrorism. If someone saw how this guy was acting before he did what he did (like his America-hating Muzlum parents), they might have prevented it.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 3:24 pm

Whatayawannabet the freak is a closet homosexual … knew it would come out when his sex slave/’wife’ arrived and decided to kill himself (suicide by cop [failed]) and make allah proud in his last minutes of life?

mercy on August 30, 2006 at 4:43 pm

“I also LOVE the law enforcement propaganda at work, as well.
EVERYTIME something happens, within just a few minutes law enforcement officials say that it’s not terrorism.”
What is it about the Debbie Schlussel fan club that insists on propogating hysteria and outright lies? In the case at hand, officials did not say this wasn’t terrorism “within minutes.” That’s just not true. In the Houssaiky/Abulhassan cellphone case, the two spent an entire week in jail before authorities said no terrorism. In the Mackinac Bridge case, the alleged perps spent days in jail and were questioned for 7 hours by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Attorney’s office, the local prosecutor’s office and Caro, Michigan police before they all concluded the three alleged perps had no link to terrorism.
Look, these are the facts of just these three cases. But the poster insists on stating that “EVERYTIME something happens, within just a few minutes law enforcement officials say that it’s not terrorism.”
Why does hysteria trump the truth on this site? Why must an un-American lynch-mob mentality persist when the facts prove otherwise? Why have you allowed bin Ladin and his evil ilk to declare victory over your terrorist-fearing souls?

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 5:09 pm

Frankie Avalon puked up his froot salad and said:
“What is it about the Debbie Schlussel fan club that insists on propogating hysteria and outright lies? In the case at hand, officials did not say this wasn’t terrorism “within minutes.” That’s just not true.”
1. You’re a liar. It IS true.
2. What you said about all of the other cases is also a lie. The authorities detained them but in EACH case they prefaced (before they began) their investigations by saying, “there is no link to terrorism at this point.” How the hell do they know this without finishing the investigation?!
“Look, these are the facts of just these three cases. But the poster insists on stating that “EVERYTIME something happens, within just a few minutes law enforcement officials say that it’s not terrorism.””
That’s because it’s a fact.
When the airliner went down in Queens, NY after taking off from Kennedy Airport in November of 2001 (right after 9/11) as a result of a tail separation killing everyone on board, the authorities IMMEDIATELY DECLARED it was not related to terrorism (research it, you moron!). Now, how in the hell can they declare such a thing while the airplane was STILL in flames?! The NTSB wasn’t even on the scene.
“Why must an un-American lynch-mob mentality persist when the facts prove otherwise?”
YOU, obviously, have a very pro-terrorist agenda. Are you a Muzlum, or are you just the garden-variety LIBERAL who hates America?
“Why have you allowed bin Ladin and his evil ilk to declare victory over your terrorist-fearing souls?”
Your buddy, bin Laden, hasn’t had any victories! Besides, he’s still living in caves having sex with farm animals. However, I will address your bullshit question: We are Americans (something you are in NAME only) who know the enemy; know its tactics; know how sneaky they are; and know how inventive they are. As Americans, we are always on the lookout for them in order to protect us, our families, and our way of life. YOU, on the other hand, would just LOVE to see this country sink to its knees.
BTW, how many OTHER names do you post under, hmmmmmmm?

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 5:55 pm

Well Avalon, did you know that Nokia Tracfones are the predominant trigger for IED and VBIED in Iraq? Did you know that the chips from these cell phones are used for these explosives as well? Did you know that the amount of IED and VBIED has risen dramatically over the past year? Did you know that you cannot buy Nokia Tracfones in Iraq? So let’s see, the gentlemen who bought the tracfones had 1,000 phones and they threw away the chargers and they drove all the way from Texas to go through Michigan. Hmm, this doesn’t sound like a very smart way to make extra money, unless you are sending them to the Middle East. Who else is going to buy a cellphone without a charger? The FBI didn’t charge them with terrorism, yet because they don’t have enough evidence. Keep in mind the FBI usually can’t prove a terrorism case until after something blows up and then it’s still difficult for them.

Minnie Mouse on August 30, 2006 at 5:58 pm

Great points, Minnie.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 6:08 pm

Minnie:
“Well Avalon, did you know that Nokia Tracfones are the predominant trigger for IED and VBIED in Iraq? Did you know that the chips from these cell phones are used for these explosives as well? Did you know that the amount of IED and VBIED has risen dramatically over the past year? Did you know that you cannot buy Nokia Tracfones in Iraq?”
Yes, all true, which only fuels the hysterical speculation. But research it further and you’ll find that buying and reselling tracfones is a legitimate and widespread business practice and not criminal. All well documented on the net.
“So let’s see, the gentlemen who bought the tracfones had 1,000 phones and they threw away the chargers and they drove all the way from Texas to go through Michigan. Hmm, this doesn’t sound like a very smart way to make extra money, unless you are sending them to the Middle East. Who else is going to buy a cellphone without a charger?”
They drove up from Texas and made several stops, scarfing up as many cellphones as they could which they could resell in Texas for $5 profit each. Why? The phones are virtually sold out in Dallas. Smart businessmen is what they are, with no links to terrorism.
Read all about it here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/15/cell.phone.terror.arrests.ap/index.html
The Mackinac Bridge debacle, the Houssaiky-Abulhassan case, the nut who drove through San Francisco this week, American Airlines Flight 587 — can anyone at all post any SOLID evidence that terrorism is involved? Of course not.
Disregard the truth at your own peril. Live your life in ignorant fear like the poster above and below you and you’ve already handed bin Ladin the keys to your kingdom. Why would you allow bin Ladin and his evil ilk to skew your thoughts so much to suspect that anyone with brown skin, an accent and a bounty of cellphones is out to get you? Be strong!! Do not allow the terrorists such privleges! For the weak-minded character above and below your posts, he’s already sold his soul to bin Ladin. How on Earth can a true American allow bin Ladin such victories?

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 7:30 pm

To Avalaon (and any other fence-sitters),
“Jihad” is core principle of Islam. Christianity and Judaism have core principles, too, but they do not mandate waging war on those outside the faith.
And don’t fumble after the Crusades (which occurred after Muslim invastion of Europe and haven’t been revived for 900 years)!
So any Muslim, NO MATTER WHAT THE IMMEDIATE REASON – because he loathes Jews, is grumpy about his arranged marriage, has a medically diagnosed mental disorder (as Popal does)… not matter what the reason – is prone to commit unprovoked violence against any non-Muslims (or Muslims perceived to be “collaborating” with non-Muslims). And it’s all in the name of JIHAD (“spiritual struggle”). That’s one potent Hate Potion No. 10.
JIHAD is “the ROOT cause”, “the UNDERLYING cause”, “the REAL reason” for criminal acts like Popal’s.

Jeremiah on August 30, 2006 at 7:55 pm

Don’t worry about proving your so called “facts” Bruno. If you spew the same crap over and over again, maybe that’ll make it true eventually.

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 8:13 pm

While Frankie Avalon was choking down his salami, he vomited;
“The Mackinac Bridge debacle, the Houssaiky-Abulhassan case, the nut who drove through San Francisco this week, American Airlines Flight 587 — can anyone at all post any SOLID evidence that terrorism is involved? Of course not.”
LOFAO! With the exception of Flight 587, can you prove that terrorism WASN’T involved in each of those instances?!
A. Did you visit the mosques where the Muzlums who perpetrated those crimes worship?
B. Did you interview the imams in those mosques?
C. Did you conduct an investigation as to where those Muzlumz got their financing?
D. Did you investigate how those Muzlumz made a living to support themselves?
E. Did you review any of their phone records?
F. Did you review any of their international travels?
G. Did you conduct an investigation into their bank accounts?
Now you’re engaging in duplicity. What you said is NOT the point. You’re trying to change the whole subject. Our point is that in EACH of those cases, the authorities were only TOO eager to jump the gun and declare them NOT connected with terrorism. Now, you’re changing the subject by saying the authorities don’t have enough evidence to prove their case, hence, terrorism is not involved. That’s like saying; because no one “SAW” the earthquake under the Indian Ocean in December 2004 that devastated Indonesia with the tidal wave, there actually was no proof of an earthquake.
Your argument is asinine!
And, just because the authorities can’t prove terrorist ties at this point in time, doesn’t mean that those ties don’t exist.
What a slimebucket!

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 8:20 pm

To TubeSteak,
*******You win the prize!!!!******
You are THEE PERFECT MORON!!!!!!!
To collect your prize all you have to do is don your burqa, travel to Dearbornistan, MI, hang out on a busy intersection at night, and wait for the Jihadists to pick you up! Hurry now! Why wait? You’re already in bed with them.
LMFAO!!!!!!!
TubeSteak = Osama bin Laden’s butt-buddy!!!!!!
Hey, they don’t call him TubeSteak for nothing.
😉

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 8:28 pm

The blame for this latest Muslim-Jihadist-Behind-the-Wheel incident rests squarely upon the shoulders of Congress (they’re responsible for these insane immigration laws) and the idiots in the US Federal government (INS, I assume) who let this character into the USA in the first place.
Some of the victims should sue the INS but of course they’ll hide behind convenient government ‘immunity’ clauses. But they should sue them anyway.
Same for the tens of thousands of citizens who are robbed, maimed and murdered by illegal Mexicans each year.
But let’s face it folks–our nation is going downhill at warp speed. It took centuries for the mongrels to overtake Rome, but in just 2 King Busch II regimes (8 years), America is almost finished!
Did anyone see Brian Williams interview with Busch yesterday and today? I only wish that a few good psychologists would offer up some public analysis of his increasingly bizarre behavior and odd verbal stumblings.
He reminds me of a guilty criminal, a mass murderer perhaps, who refuses when confronted, to admit his multitudes of crimes, even though the evidence is overwhelming.
In the Good Book, it says that God hands over wicked men to ‘doctrines of demons’ when they violate His word.
With the blood of over 2600 dead US GI’s and the blood of tens of thousands of dead Iraqis upon his hands–not to mention the immigration betrayal to our nation–I suspect that the not-so-great King Busch is being ridden by the Evil One.
But he probably always has been, since it was Busch himself who said, ‘I pray to the same god the Muslims do.’
And that ‘god’ is none other than Lucifer.

joemccarthy on August 30, 2006 at 8:58 pm

Good one Bruno! You’re my hero.

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 9:12 pm

Hey, Joe,
Let’s not forget the LIBERAL Dhimmicrats, also.
The Immigration and Naturalization Services Act of 1965 radically altered who was, by law (forget about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION), allowed to immigrate to this country. Prior to this DISASTROUS Act, 85% of the immigrants to this country were from Europe, the remaining 15% came from Turd-World shitholes. That act REVERSED those percentages. Since 1965, 85% of immigrants NOW hail from diseased-ridden, uneducated, poverty-stricken, non-skilled, Turd-World cesspools. Only 15% of educated, skilled workers come from European countries are now allowed to immigrate.
THAT said; let’s review what Senator Ted Kennedy said on the floor of the U.S. Senate when this Act was being debated:
Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured Congress and the nation with the following:
*”First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia … In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs… In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.î (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)
Kennedy also claimed: “No immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge.” (In other words, not to become a deadbeat on welfare and other social programs.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Services_Act_of_1965
Now, I ask you, take a look at the state of our country today! Is any red-blooded American that’s left going to continue to listen to the lies of LIBERALS who want to destroy this country?!
Are we going to let LIBERALS in charge of our national defense?!

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 9:25 pm

Ok Avalon, the profit angle still doesn’t make sense. So they spend however much money on gas and the van rental and they still have to buy the phones and they are only making a $5 profit? Do the math. So they pay $30 x 1,000 phones=$30,000. SO now they make a $5 profit on 1,000. $5 x 1000=$5,000. So it seems they are at least $25,000 in the hole not to mention the gas and rental costs. It’s also not legal to re-sell the phones. You need some sort of a vendors license and you also have to pay taxes on that money. Does this still make sense to you?

Minnie Mouse on August 30, 2006 at 9:35 pm

It’s not like conservatives are doing a great job at national defense, Bruno.

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 9:36 pm

No conservatives are not doing a great job with security because they are being too damn PC! No one has a pair of cajones to say, “No Wahabis, we will not allow your money to come to this country, we will not allow you to train American Imams and we will not allow you to have student visa programs”. This would be a good start but that is too hard for Americans to comprehend, let’s just worry about stupid shite, like who Paris Hilton is engaged to this week and all this terrorism stuff will just dissappear.

Minnie Mouse on August 30, 2006 at 9:49 pm

Hey, Minnie,
Don’t waste your breath on Avalon. At best he’s an America-hating LIBERAL, which means that you can’t talk any sense into him. He hates this country and there’s not a DAMN thing anyone could do to change his mind.
At worst, he’s a fellow Muzlum terrorist, who’s hell-bent on destroying this country just as the LIBERALS want to, albeit, by sometimes different means, but the end product is the same.
We saw all this through the ’60’s during Viet Nam, the Cold War, and now with the war on Terrorism. Forget it. We know you’re correct. We know you’re right. So do they. But that doesn’t mean you’re going to stop them from attempting to achieve their goal of destroying America.
You can’t rehabilitate LIBERALS, just as you can’t rehabilitate Muzlumz. Just as you can’t rehabilitate pedophiles. Just as you can’t rehabilitate rapists (oops, their favorite rapist spent 8 years in Washington).
If LIBERALS haven’t learned from 9/11, then they never will. Just accept it and expose them for the enemies of America that they really are. Expose their hatred, their bile, their hypocrisy, their duplicity.
Expose their love for Communism, Socialism, Islam, open borders, multi-culturalism, public schools that don’t educate, a media that spews lies, a cultural society that promotes degeneracy, and everything else that’s wrong for America.
Forget it! You’ll never convince them!
Remember this: LIBERALS hate religion, but they LOVE Islam!
LIBERALS hate America!

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 9:53 pm

I agree with you Minnie.

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 9:56 pm

Conservatives have ALWAYS been head and shoulders above LIBERALS when it comes to national defense. Even George W. Bush is head and shoulders above a draft-dodging rapist who never retaliated for all of the Muzlum attacks on America during the 1990’s while he was defiling the White House for 8 years with a fat intern shoving Havanas up her twat, and a Viet Nam vet who faked his war records, and who shot himself in the ass with rice, and who bows at the altar of the French government, and the United Nations.
Nice try, asswipe! But, you have no case.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 10:00 pm

Wanna bet that TubeSteak and Frankie Avalon are the same poster?
Just as Descent and DollarsAndCents were the same poster.
I bet that there are a few of America-hating jihadists/LIBERALS posting here under several names.
Chris, anyone?

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 10:03 pm

Minnie,
Read the hysterical rants from the poster just beneath Dudesteak and witness firsthand the effects of Bin Ladin’s evil mindgames. Can I prove that terrorism wasn’t involved in these cases? The old “can you prove a negative statement” question?
In the Mackinac Bridge case, for instance, the FBI, the U.S. Attorney’s office, the Department of Homeland Security, the Caro, Michigan police and prosecutor Mark Reene all questioned the suspects for seven-and-a-half hours and concluded that these guys had no link to terrorism, but the poster still asks for more proof that they weren’t. This is rational thinking?
Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan spent a week — a week! – behind bars and were interrogated at length. Finally, the charges were dropped. But the poster has the audacity to state: “And, just because the authorities can’t prove terrorist ties at this point in time, doesn’t mean that those ties don’t exist.”
Who would take this poster seriously?
There’s more. Then the poster ignores the truth again and says “Our point is that in EACH of those cases, the authorities were only TOO eager to jump the gun and declare them NOT connected with terrorism.” (You have to wonder who “our” is in that statement. Who in their right mind would appoint this poster to be their spokesperson?)
The fact is just about every news organization reported that the Mackinac bridge suspects were suspected of terrorist activity by authorities. Look it up here:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-31/1155449703217910.xml&coll=6 (title of article: Men suspected of Mackinac Plot. Or here: http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=59411 (Men held in Michigan suspected of plan to attack Mackinac Bridge.)
Same is true in the Houssaiky-Abulhassan case, easily looked up here: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/10/terrorcharges.ohio.ap/index.html (Michigan men held on terror charges.)
These are the facts of the matter, so why does the poster insist on repeating easily refuted fallacies. What drives him/her to post such drivel? Bin Ladin’s mindgames, that’s what, led on by this website. And if that’s not proof that debbieschlussel.com is a blight on responible journalism, I don’t know what is. Bin Ladin has reduced the poster to juvenile name-calling and outright anti-American bigotry. This is what Bin Ladin wanted all along, and the poster fell for it.

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 10:04 pm

Actually G.W. isn’t better. Try again!
^_^

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 10:04 pm

Debbie,
Please look up the IP Addresses of DudeSteak and Avalon. I guarantee you that they’re coming from either the same address or the same ISP, especially when you take into account the closeness in time proximities when they post.
If you allow such fraudulent behavior to continue your blog will degenerate into oblivion because these SAME LIBERALS tried to do exactly the same thing before, albeit using different techniques, such as impersonating me, and as you told me in your e-mail – using multiple identities.
It’s not fair to us honest posters to try to respond to illusionists who try to convey a populist LIBERAL message when those messages are emanating from the same person.
I know when they are perpetrating a fraud, however, other posters may not be that sophisticated enough to detect that they are being played, and, preyed, upon by unethical LIBERALS who post under multiple identities.
Please enact some safeguards to curtail this behavior, otherwise, your site will be hijacked, taken-over, and become a joke.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 10:16 pm

Thee_bruno, I’m flattered that you’ve kept me in your thoughts. That being said, feel free to ask Debbie if the IP’s match and you’ll find that I’m not behind any of it. Again, if Debbie looks at my IP, she’ll see I’m posting from cleveland..the other two will be from who knows where. It’s more than just me that doesn’t like you, trust me.
Also, if you look at the time stamps, DudeSteak and Avalon posted at the exact same time, 10:04. So, if Debbie see’s two posts @ 10:04, at 2 ip’s, it’s impossible for them to be the same person.
Dudesteak and Avalon, Bruno’s a full-time internet troll with a history of stalking and harassing users on internet newsgroups. I actually found a bunch of archived posts he made on google groups one day..it’s sickening.
And finally, TheeBruno, I’m done with you, and your delusions..I’ve learned to pass them off as nothing more than senile ranting.
If you feel like further claiming that it’s me posting, then go ahead..but I’ve got much better things to do than to argue with ignorant scum.
You know, I think you may get along with Muslims if you gave it a shot, you seem to view people that don’t share you exact line of thought as infidels, just as they do. Maybe you’re the terrorist, hmmm?

Descent on August 30, 2006 at 10:16 pm

Bruno, also, if you didn’t see my post on the Jill Carol thread, I’ve actually personally spoken with Debbie and given her my word that I would treat everyone with respect.
And again, if you don’t believe that, the proof is in the IP numbers.

Descent on August 30, 2006 at 10:18 pm

I agree with him being a full-time troll. I’m kind of surprised Debbie allows morons like this on her site.
Even though he sort of aligns with her views, his extremism goes so overboard that I can’t imagine Debbie would want to be associated with such a loser.

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 10:21 pm

How interesting that you post so close in time that Avalon and DudeSteak posted all night long. What, were you “waiting in the wings”?
Tell us the truth; you are the same person who posts under;
Descent,
DollarsAndCents,
TubeSteak,
Avalon,
Chris,
Durka Durka Mohammad.
Come on, sweety, tell us the truth. There is no way in hell all you “posters” can post nearly simultaneously with the same playbook/agenda.
No way in HELL!

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 10:24 pm

“Ok Avalon, the profit angle still doesn’t make sense. So they spend however much money on gas and the van rental and they still have to buy the phones and they are only making a $5 profit? Do the math. So they pay $30 x 1,000 phones=$30,000. SO now they make a $5 profit on 1,000. $5 x 1000=$5,000.”
Minnie, they’d be shelling out $30,000 for a $35,000 return. $30 x 1000= $30,000. They get back $35 x 1000 ($35,000). They’re up 5 grand. Not a bad profit for a trip that could;ve taken 1-2 weeks.
“It’s also not legal to re-sell the phones. You need some sort of a vendors license and you also have to pay taxes on that money.”
You’re right. And Tracfone has been through civil courts about this. Still, the practice is widespread, especially among enterprising college students. I hope you’ll agree that this crime is a far cry from international terrorist activity.
“Does this still make sense to you?”
Absolutely. Now that the math has been sorted out, what doesn’t make sense to you?

Avalon on August 30, 2006 at 10:26 pm

Avalon,
MSM is worthless. Mainly because they jump to conclusions one way or another. The report on sensationalism and what brings them ratings and what is PC. You really have to wait months for all of the facts to come out on a story before you get to the bottom of anything. I happen to think the cell phone guys were up to something, why, because well over 5,000 terrorist attacks have been carried out in the name of Islam since 9/11. Don’t beleive me, go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com. At the bottom of the website they have a compete list of all terrorist attacks for the past 5 years.
You still didn’t answer me on the whole math quiz.

Minnie Mouse on August 30, 2006 at 10:27 pm

People, notice how Descents’ last comment was posted at the same exact time my last post was sent. Now, ask yourself this: How is it that he was able to read my post and type his response and send it all within the same minute? WhY? Because he’s manipulating the time on his computer. He’s also a phony who was already BUSTED once on this site by Debbie.
Pay no attention to;
Descent,
DollarsAndCents,
TubeSteak,
Avalon,
Chris,
Durka Durka Mohammad.
BTW, Descent, by his own admission, says that he’s an Internet security “expert”.
All you posters beware!
Until Debbie rids us of this bastard, this site will degenerate into a joke.

Thee_Bruno on August 30, 2006 at 10:31 pm

Ok Avalon, I am stupid when it comes to math. $5000 is a profit. $30,000 start up cost is alot of dough for 20 year-olds. I still think there is something sinister just because I follow this type of stuff for work. I see these scenarios all the time. The truth will come out eventually on why they were buying the phones.

Minnie Mouse on August 30, 2006 at 10:33 pm

Bruno, you, me, minnie mouse, avalon, and dudesteak have all posted in a close time period. Does that mean we’re all the same?
I just logged on to check the posts/comments, and saw that you decided you’d start accusing me, and figured I’d set you straight.
Please tell me what gain I have of posting under other user names, if I’m writing normal posts?
DollarsandCents was used to post rediculous flamboyant posts…
the clone of your name was made to do exactly what you think it was used for..
and descent, was to post normal posts.
Also, my writing style is nothing like dudesteaks and avalons.
I’m not sure of what further proof i can offer you

Descent on August 30, 2006 at 10:33 pm

Bruno, let me explain some basic things to you. First, right now, my computer is saying that it’s 6:09 because I’m on a laptop that I haven’t used in a few years. My post doesn’t say it’s six o’clock.
Second, and the most convincing, I could make my time on my computer what I feel like, it’s not going to change what I post as.
Go ahead, set your time to 2 am, then post. It’s still going to have correct time stamp. That’s because the time is regulated by typekey’s servers, not your personal computer.

Descent on August 30, 2006 at 10:36 pm

How does that even make sense that I would post under all those names? Why wouldn’t I post on this one? I was never banned, so no need to create another name. By the way, I never posted as “chris” I just signed off with my name a few times.

Descent on August 30, 2006 at 10:38 pm

You’re a little slow, aren’t you Bruno?

DudeSteak on August 30, 2006 at 10:38 pm

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