No – its not going to go away. There’s just too many vested interests and too much money involved to ever get rid of affirmative action – besides the ideology that justifies its permanence in American life.

NormanF on June 11, 2010 at 4:36 pm

I couldn’t agree with you more Debbie. I’d like to see where people once again succeed based on merit, not diversity or other race based BS. That hasn’t been for many decades.

I know I will probably be called racist to write this (as Debbie will no doubt be called racist for writing this post), but I think that one of the reasons that whites have been surpassed in birth rates is because most white people (the ones I know anyway) don’t give birth to 6 more kids than they can support. Illegals come here, squirt out babies like Catholics, and then have the American taxpayer pay for a lot of their bills (health care, schools, welfare and food stamps just to name a few), and they believe they are entitled to this.

Jarhead on June 11, 2010 at 4:43 pm

It’s a crutch black people have come to expect and they really need it because of their inferior mental abilities. If left to their own merits they could only qualify for caretaker and janitorial positions. My wife, who is a head nurse, has told me black nurses are lazy and stupid and are unable to perform the most basic nursing skills. Sorry if my post sounds racist but it is reality and white guilt only makes it worse.

Chuck on June 11, 2010 at 4:47 pm

Luckily you’re not white Debbie, but a Semitic Jew. I’m sure you’ll find yourself finally belonging to a majority if you just move to Israel.

S: Welcome, Helen Thomas, to DebbieSchlussel.com. DS

saywhat on June 11, 2010 at 5:13 pm

I can say for a fact that the race baiting is going on big time. I’ve turned in over twenty five job applications and none of them called me back. I asked one why they didn’t call me back and they said its because I’m a white male. White men need to stop with this diversity crap and start teaming up and calling racism, racism. I can’t get a job that I’m qualified for because I’m a white male it doesn’t get more racist than that.

tyler on June 11, 2010 at 5:23 pm

Yay! Does this mean I can get more scholarships?

cirrus1701 on June 11, 2010 at 6:06 pm

I remember Mike Savage saying years ago that the most hated person in the world was the white male….they would soon become extinct…or emasculated to the point of no return…at the time I thought he was nuts…not so much anymore..

Charmaine on June 11, 2010 at 6:08 pm

In Toronto for opne example they USED to use the term “visible minority” in any story showing how racist Whites are. But now in Toronto the term is hardly ever used as the “visible minority” has become the White skinned group!

Bill on June 11, 2010 at 6:23 pm

I heard a clip today of Aunt Nasty Pelosi being asked when the administration would stop blaming former President George Bush for all the problem. After hemming and hawing around for a few moments she said that Bush would stop getting the blame when there were no more problem. In other words when the world was in some sort of state of total peace and the skies were filled with rainbows and unicorns were zipping around then Obambi and his crew of miscreants would step up to the plate and take credit. So it is the same with racism and White Males. There will always be racism as long as there are White Males. When they are all gone then racism will also be gone. Or so the theory goes.

kenny komodo on June 11, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Affirmative action is the death knell of a meritocracy and the US (and Canada) can only function as they should if they are meritocracies…..hey,what the heck….Let’s have affirmative action for everyone , to be fair:

1. I DEMAND proportional representation of Blacks, Whites and Chinese in the NBA.
2. I DEMAND proper black/white mix in Major League Baseball. Currently there are too many white relief pitchers and too many black outfielders. And we should set a timeline for Muslims to achieve at least a 10% position by 2020.
3. More White and Chinese rappers, please.
4. Psychiatrists…severe underrepresentation by Blacks and Hispanics.
5.NFL punt returners- why no Jews?
6. I DEMAND 15% of brain surgeons be black and 10% Hispanic, no matter what it takes to achieve this.
etc , etc

Not Ovenready on June 11, 2010 at 11:21 pm

Can these numbers be wrong since minority families have gotten multiple census forms and some whites haven’t gotten one form yet? Seems some people count, more than once and some don’t count at all.

ender on June 12, 2010 at 2:03 am

Harpy Sharpton now says “The Struggle” Trademark/Shakedown won’t end until everyone has the same amount of stuff. What Thuff?

Equality of Results on June 12, 2010 at 8:22 am

It is funny that Blacks vote by race more than any other group. They voted for Obama by 96% to 4%, yet they are never questioned if race was a factor in their voting. Then liberals say. ‘Well they always voted against Republicans’. Nothing there. However when it came to the Democratic primaries, they voted by 90% to 10% against Hillary Clinton. No questions are asked.

Now some Black guy in South Carolina runs for the Senate in the Democratic Party and wins. He is unknown and never spends a dime in the campaign. Why did he win? Well maybe the large amount of Black voters just vote by race and it didn’t matter who he was. The Democrats can’t deal with racism that exists when voters pick by race. They call it a Republican plant.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-greene-20100612,0,5109558.story

CaliforniaScreaming on June 12, 2010 at 9:40 am

Being a “white” male, I don’t see Affirmative Action going away. I also don’t see any of benefits extended to minorites in the past being extended to white males now or in the future. Apparently, we haven’t adaquately “atoned for the sins of our forefathers” yet.

Paul on June 12, 2010 at 9:48 am

Working for the government most of my life now, I’ve seen the terrible affirmative action results. Supervisors that openly practice their race bias to help out they bros. I had a boss that always put the blacks together on patrols and openly named them the “soul patrol”. As a rookie I watched, totally pissed off at my “trainer”, as he would tail gate a jeep or pick up with whites in it just to harass them. I argued with him about it and got shit assignments and more harassment from that day forward. Things are pretty much the same today as they were 23 yrs ago. Overtime gets dished out to black officers by black supervisors a lot at a very disproportionate % to what is allowed by policy. Skipping the white guys just blatantly has cost my friends a lot. Then they have to grieve the issue costing more effort, etc. The black sups just act like nothing happened.

samurai on June 12, 2010 at 11:41 am

They won’t get rid of it willingly no matter what the numbers are telling them. It’s about payback at this point.

samurai on June 12, 2010 at 11:43 am

I do not see it as only a white male problem but also
both sexes if they are over 55…and white. And if you
are white and NOT of child bearing age and have lost your
job and your health insurance, forget it! You might get
a minimal amount in a food stamp card. I actually thought about changing my race and my ethnic background when answering the questions for unemployment. But, at my age, I got the
kind of job “Americans won’t do”…no benefits, but a job, at
least. I never thought I would wish time to go faster so I could qualify for SS and Medicare.

cthelight on June 12, 2010 at 11:51 am

And also…what would we call an organization
dedicated to the advancement of whites? Would it
even fly? Methinks we would be labeled racists.

NOWA-National Organization of White Americans
WANA-White Americans of North America

Well, even if we had a group, hispanics would be allowed
since they are listed as white on police reports quite
frequently.

And even if we could do this, there would be an outcry
about bias and we whites would be forced to include all
other races or be considered a racist organization. What
would happen if we asked to join LaRaza, Maldef, or even
the NAACP?

cthelight on June 12, 2010 at 12:02 pm

The biggest illegal discriminator against whites is the federal Government in every single department. Some attorney needs to file a class action lawsuit against the Feds and hopefully gets rich. Their own statistics prove they are violating the law.Frankly I am fed up. Every white guy I know cannot find work and it is getting to the point that many are ready for an armed revolution.

The pattern of anti-white-male bias in favor of black preferences has been extremely consistent over the past several years during which we have analyzed the OPM’s racial hiring data. While OPM has studiously avoided posting any explicit data about the impact of these policies upon non-preferred groups such as white males, OPM has not been able to keep itself from letting slip little semantic and statistical hints about it’s anti-white and anti-white-male bias.

Here are the few anti-white, boastful, racial factoids we have gleaned just from the introductions and executive summaries of the past several years’ OPM reports:

The executive summary to the OPM report states that in FY 2005 the federal workforce increased by only 2,059 but that federal minority hiring increased by 6,238. By our math, that means that 6,238 new minorities minus 2,059 new jobs = 4,179 whites were “unhired” by the feds in FY 2005.

Stated another way: the feds hired 6,238 minorities and fired or retired 4,179 white guys.
According to OPM’s FY 2005 report, all 22 independent federal agencies exceeded their racial quotas for hiring blacks by dozens or even hundreds of percent in FY 2005! Next:
Next: Blacks in Federal Executive Departments
Exec.
Depts.

Once again this year, the First Place prize in the federal quota competition goes to Court Services and Offender Services (CSOS) for employing 840% more blacks than their affirmative action “target” (quota).

Once again this year, NASA came in dead last by exceeding its black hiring quota by a mere 44%

Each of the remaining 20 independent agencies exceeded their racial quotas for hiring blacks in FY 2005 by a minimum of 44% (NASA) to 840% (CSOS).
http://www.adversity.net/fed_stats/OPM2006/default.htm

ScottyDog on June 12, 2010 at 3:45 pm

Also interesting to note the illegal alien factor- the American born children of illegal immigrants will get priority over (white and Asian) citizens’ kids in employment, college admissions, scholarships, etc. Does any other country treat its citizens this way?

Smitty on June 12, 2010 at 5:19 pm

There is also a powerful Government bureaucracy supporting affirmative action. Look at Hillary, Janet Napolitano, etc. (not to mention our President). Would any of them be where they were if not for affirmative action? Multiply these people by their counterparts in state and local government and the judiciary, and this whole bureaucracy will do whatever they can to preserve affirmative action. Would Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina challenge affirmative action? Where would they be without it?

Little Al on June 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm

[DS: When White people are down to 10% of the population, we will still be hearing about how the minorities that have become majorities need “a leg up.”]

Shouldn’t the fact that White people historically discriminated against other races factor into this discussion at all?

Norman Blitzer on June 12, 2010 at 11:22 pm

NB: past discrimination means that those minorities should get equality of opportunity. But they should not be placed ahead of more qualified applicants.

Little Al on June 13, 2010 at 7:25 am

talk about good bye America. this is just another bad piece of news.

L on June 13, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Shouldn’t the fact that White people historically discriminated against other races factor into this discussion at all?

Historically white people have been discriminated against in a far more vicious manner that minorities in the past. It has now been 50 years since the government started Affirmative action, how long is enough to break the law and refuse employment to white people solely on their skin color?

BTW Here is the latest report from Adversity.net:

Adversity.Net’s analysis is based on the U.S. Office of Personnel Management’s annual report “Federal Equal Opportunity Recruitment Program”.
This year’s OPM report — covering federal Fiscal Year 2006 — among other things boasts that the feds hired 6,912 new minorities last year while at the same time “dis-hiring” or “retiring” 6,280 white males and other non-preferred groups.

As always, the OPM report is confounding in two regards. First, the OPM defines “women” as minorities which category includes women of all races including “white”. Second, the OPM continues to refuse to publish any data whatsoever regarding employment of white males, and studiously avoids presenting data which depicts the decrease in employment of white males and other non-preferred groups.

See additional FY 2006 Racial Mania:
1 Black Quotas
2 Hispanic Quotas
3 Asian-Pacific Islander Quotas
4 Native American Quotas
5 Women Quotas
6 Definitions, Math

From FY 2001 through FY 2006 a net total of 48,033 new minority employees have been hired by the feds. During the same period there has been a net decrease of 3,960 white male employees in federal jobs.
http://www.adversity.net/fed_stats/OPM2007/default.htm

Scientifically speaking, women are not minorities but are in fact are the majority according Biology but that does not get in the way of the Federal Government making it up as they go along for the feminists. (reminds me of global warming)

ScottyDog on June 13, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Affirmative Action WILL go away period. Once there is a 40% or less Caucasian (European) definitive population demographic, Affirmative Action will cease. The cessation will occur, and be justified by/with, the racist mindset that, “you {white minority} have had all the ‘power’ for so long, ‘social justice’ must run its course.” While I believed for a time {in my youth} AA was needed, I see now the truth so to speak: If you can’t beat them out, breed them out. There will be no reciprocity. It’s a communist movement, Europe has the “Jew”-which is moving westward and growing unfortunately-and the Americas have the Caucasian (white European) to “blame” for the “poor” folk.
Divide and Conquer.

Sick_Boy on June 13, 2010 at 9:41 pm

“Historically white people have been discriminated against in a far more vicious manner that minorities in the past.”

When were white people discriminated against more than minorities in this country?

Mike on June 13, 2010 at 9:44 pm

Yes! That is exactly what’s happening in Malaysia! The majorities need “a leg up.”

jules on June 13, 2010 at 10:47 pm

You’re right blitzer. Some Caucasians have historically discriminated against minorities. Wasn’t me. Wasn’t my parents. Wasn’t my grandparents. Wasn’t my great, great, great grandparents. No matter, I should pay personally for this sin against minorities. Makes sense to me.

spiffo on June 14, 2010 at 1:55 am

I know of both men and women who were not able to get into medical school because they are white.
They were straight A students, bright, intelligent, spoke multiple languages, but, because of the color of their skin, they were rejected…
They all asked the administration why they weren’t accepted, and, they were told it is because you are white. And they needed to make room for black students, even though those students had a lower GPA (grade point average) then the whites…

alwaysright on June 14, 2010 at 5:20 am

While it’s true that WASPS (Google that) had discriminated against various races, one must consider this mantra…

What’s done in the past, stays in the past.

Never forget, yet forgive. Don’t forget to forgive yourself first.

And it’s just plain wrong to create a wrong to right a wrong.

The "Reverend" Jacques on June 14, 2010 at 6:36 am

“Historically white people have been discriminated against in a far more vicious manner that minorities in the past. “

ScottyDog, PLEASE tell me that you were joking when you wrote that. Being for or against affirmative action is NO excuse to distort history.

Given that the unemployment rate for African American college graduates is three times that of White college graduates, and Black grads are having to resort to “Whitening their resume” just to get their foot in the door, (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/weekinreview/06Luo.html), I would question where are these hordes of so-called unqualified minorities taking jobs away from White people.

And The “Reverend” Jacques, forgiveness is an essential doctrine of the Christian faith, but one of the great myths that people promote is that “what’s in the past stays in the past”. That is both scripturally (“the sins of the father….”) and historically false. We are where we are today because of the actions of people in the past. The past ALWAYS affects us. For example, the fact that some colonist got tired of British rule and decided to revolt has an effect on your present today and the on the fact that there is even an America.

Years ago, when I used to visit my great grandmother in rural Louisiana, I ask why there were no grocery stores on the Black part of town. I was told that back in the early 1920’s, there was a very prosperous grocery store owned by a young Black couple, the wife of which happened to be pregnant. The Klan and other such people told them to shut it down, as it was keeping the “coloreds” from spending their money at the White-owned stores. They refused. A week later, the Black storeowner was found hanging from a tree and his wife was found hanging upside down, with her stomach cut open and the fetus removed and trampled to mush. Apparently the Black residents of this town were so traumatized by that event that no other Black person dared open a store in that town, and the effects of that horrific act lasted until the late 20th century. The past does indeed affect the present….

Ida P Wells on June 14, 2010 at 11:15 am

“Apparently the Black residents of this town were so traumatized by that event that no other Black person dared open a store in that town, and the effects of that horrific act lasted until the late 20th century. The past does indeed affect the present….”

Cry me a river, Ida. It’s just too bad that these townfolk are so dysfunctional, generation after generation.

“And The “Reverend” Jacques, forgiveness is an essential doctrine of the Christian faith, but one of the great myths that people promote is that “what’s in the past stays in the past”. That is both scripturally (“the sins of the father….”) and historically false. We are where we are today because of the actions of people in the past.”

How banal. It is immoral that you don’t even consider that government, which should not discriminate, has been doing so against white men for decades now. Naturally, white men who happen to have rich, powerful white parents (e.g., those whose daddies are in Congress) will always find a way in. But for most, they are in trouble.

It is unfortunate that some subcultures are so dysfunctional that they do not properly raise their children. That is not the responsibility of “government” to set right, and it is especially odious that “government” can do so only by harming others.

skzion on June 14, 2010 at 11:36 am

I do “cry of river” over cases like that skzion, especially when I realized what Americans did to other Americans over skin-color differences. I cry a river when I read how Americans who did worked hard and didn’t depend on government were brutally murdered because they dared to open a damn store in the Jim Crow south.

By the way, having empathy for a hard-working Black couple who were brutally murdered for having the audacity to own a business in early 20th-Century America and being against affirmative action are not mutually exclusive. But what could be considered immoral is you adding yet another “victim class” to America’s overloaded bin of people claiming victimhood in today’s society.

Ida P Wells on June 14, 2010 at 12:21 pm

I hope Debbie is familiar with a new book just out in the bookstores: “The History of the White People” by Nell Irvin Painter, a black author and professor at Princeton University. Color me surprised?

Bobby'sBrain on June 14, 2010 at 4:00 pm

To all the naysayers of, “there is not discrimination against white {Not Caucasian} men,” I ask this:
How many of you have tried to receive an award of contract with the Federal government lately? How many of the “Big BOY” contractors are stepping all over themselves to team with a MINORITY owned business to act as the “Prime”?? Open your eyes.
Like others here, I, nor my family, enslaved, interred, mocked, intimidated, owned, or whatever else to any “minority” here, or abroad.
Historically speaking of course, EVERY culture/society has discriminated, enslaved, tortured, or whatever else “minorities” within their respective cultures.
Just how many “minorities” have been promoted within our nations fire departments? Police departments? U.S. Military? State governments? …because of racial/gender quotas?? Didn’t the Supreme Court rule on a case which ruled FOR firemen in Conneticutt??? Didn’t the PD in Miami REMOVE the swimming qualification from their in-test…because the PD wasn’t meeting quotas?? (Isn’t that “racism”??)
Oh, and to the “po’ folk” lulling the sleeping giant with stories…my Grandmother from Southwest Louisiana would always say, “Sweep around your own backdoor, before you sweep around mine.”
It’s ALL a testament to “social justice,” vice equality of merit. P.S. Save the racial slurs directed at/to me, two of my previous team leaders were BLACK AMERICAN MEN…(emphasis on MEN).

Sick_Boy on June 14, 2010 at 9:51 pm

“ScottyDog, PLEASE tell me that you were joking when you wrote that. Being for or against affirmative action is NO excuse to distort history.”

I am not joking, apparently you think it is just ducky to discriminate against someone for the color of their skin and their sex. Do you even have a clue how many white males have been denied meritorious employment or promotion over the last 50 years?

I linked a website that has all the statistics for the feds for the last 8 years. I could list more but the naysayers usually never care to read the facts.

It is in the millions my dear and it has destroyed at least 5 generations of white families to what perceived benefit I might ask.

Just what is your justification for telling a superior white male applicant; sorry there is a loser over there that barely could make it on the test with race preference points\veterans points they got a 65% and they are being hired over you even though you received a 98% on the test with no preferences of any kind?

Do you know the disastrous effects that hiring people that cannot cut it has had on the economy of this country or the dumbing down of numerous professions solely on the basis of skin color or sex?

Please explain how women ever where designated a “Preferred Minority Status” when they are 57.8 percent of the total population depending on age cohort and whether we are at war(at least in the past).

Do you even have a clue how it has effected this country at all?

Sadly affirmative action has been and continues to be one of the most destructive programs the government has ever foisted on this country.

What has the white man done to deserve this kind of treatment after we, as a group, were responsible for building the greatest country on earth?

ScottyDog on June 15, 2010 at 9:03 pm