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May 31, 2010, - 9:45 pm

UPDATED VIDEO: Yup, Looks Like a “Peaceful” Convoy/Flotilla To Me, Too

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATED w/ NEW VIDEO ****

Watch this video of how the pro-HAMAS “peace activists” beat Israeli soldiers to a pulp with iron pipes. Those aren’t weapons? Uh, try arguing that in any criminal court. But, hey, the soldiers are just supposed to give up and die and allow their fellow soldiers to die at the hands of these torturous “peace activist” murderers, right? Would the United States do that? Would our Coast Guard and Customs and Border Protection agents just sit by and allow that as an Al-Qaeda “peace convoy” flotilla ship’s passengers did this? Hell, no.

Israel should have sunk this ship and killed all the barbarians aboard this ship and let their waterlogged bodies wash up at their intended final destination of Gaza. Israeli soldiers inspected five ships and were ready to let them go through. It was on this sixth ship that this barbaric attack was planned and deliberately carried out by these, as we call them in Yiddish, vildah chayahs [wild animals] or, as they are called in Arabic, bahayim. Animals aboard the Turkish ship, the Mavi Marmara . . .

Check out more excellent coverage of the truth regarding what happened with the HAMAS Gaza Flotilla at Solomonia and The JIDF. Check ’em both out!

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Another excellent post, Debbie.

So much for the pro-Hamas vermin being “peace activists”.

JeffE on May 31, 2010 at 9:58 pm

YUP the religion of PEACE! They knew what they were doing, they paid the price. ISRAEL did what it had to do!

Darrell on May 31, 2010 at 10:07 pm

Right on the mark, Debbie. Thanks for the post….You’re right—We wouldn’t allow this kind of move near our coast. Why then would we expect Israel to?

Brian Donovan on May 31, 2010 at 10:17 pm

Uh… isn’t Gaza another theocratic woman-hating muslim dictatorship? Those people want freedom, they had better get rid of Hamas.

Gnarlodious on May 31, 2010 at 10:34 pm

You’re philosophically right but please don’t ascribe statehood, tyrannical or otherwise to these creatures. Getting rid of Hamas won’t do a thing. Someone worse will rise up to fill the gap. These creatures have the example of Israel right next door. Heck, they worked for us, learned our ways, we gave them beautiful thriving farms and what did they do? Turn it into a sand pile and now they want the West to send “relief” aid to undo the destruction they brought on themselves.

mk750 on June 1, 2010 at 2:55 am

Should’ve wiped the boats out with an air strike. Why should personnel be at risk like that? Booooooom!

samurai on May 31, 2010 at 10:44 pm

G-D bless Israel. They should have torpedoed all the jihadist ships. I just pray that they don’t apologize for defending themselves against these s*umbags. Israel has been too apologetic and soft. They need to tell the world and UN to screw off! Muslims don’t understand civility or rules of engagement. They only understand brutality and they need to fear the infidels. Screw them all!

Mimi on May 31, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Hun, you’re so pathetic. It is amazing how you believe everything you are writing! You call Hamas a terrorist group, I call the Israeli government a terrorist government! And everyone knew what happened that at the moment, everyone hates Israel, and many people hated it all their lives. So can you do the civilized and democractic world a favor and delete this Muslim-Hate blog that you have set up here, because if I even approach to critiscize Jews and talk about them, i’d be silenced and labeled anti-semetic! Oh by the way,, your possy that “keep you going” and comment on your ridiculous posts are also pathetic and sad. The United States, and the World don’t have any space for your racism! Thanks babe

PS – If you had a little bit of integrity, you wouldn’t delete this comment.

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:06 pm

Re: Julian at 11:07 pm.

So let me get this straight:

It’s okay to criticize (lie) about Israel, but criticizing the Muslims is not. Delete Debbie’s website, but “oh please don’t delete my post, beause after all, ‘free speech for me, but not for thee!'”

Hypocrite!

JeffE on May 31, 2010 at 11:18 pm

JeffE,

Israel is a state! It is a government! It is not 2 billion people that I am critiscize! Do you think I am criticizing all the Jews in the world when I say something against Israel? you can go on and say anything you want about Hamas, Hezbollah, or any other government or group, but this generalising, and this hate-speech against 2 BILLION PEOPLE is too much. I can’t believe how much racism there is here! Look at my posts and see if I ever criticized the Jewish people.

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:43 pm

Re: Julian at 11:43 pm.

“Look at my posts and see if I ever criticized the Jewish people.”

I see that at your 11:38 pm post you called skzion, “Shlomo”. Not that either I or skzion would think that that’s an insult, but what exactly did you mean by it?

BTW, on my 11:44 pm post, if it will make you feel better, I amend it to read “Arab/Muslim states and terrorist groups”.

JeffE on May 31, 2010 at 11:52 pm

Speaking of which, where is my post?

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 11:13 am

Never mind. Sorry.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 11:15 am

Re: Julian at 11:43 pm

(Response #2)

Upon further review of your posts, I want to note the following:

Julian at 11:06 pm to Debbie:

“Hun, you’re so pathetic. It is amazing how you believe everything you are writing! You call Hamas a terrorist group…”

Julian at 11:43 pm to me:

“you can go on and say anything you want about Hamas, Hezbollah, or any other government or group, but this generalising, and this hate-speech against 2 BILLION PEOPLE is too much….”

It looks like you are contradicting yourself. On the one hand, you condemn Debbie for calling Hamas a terrorist organization, but then to me you admit to me that calling Hamas a terrorist group–or anyhing else–is fair game. Those two statements contradict each other. So which is it?

(Psst… I’m hoping that it’s the second one.)

JeffE on June 1, 2010 at 12:20 am

I am not contradicting my self, but let me clear it up to you! i have a right to argue my opinion, which is if Hamas is a terrorist group or not! You can call it a terrorist group and I can argue my point, you can too, but whats happening is that there are a lot of very very very horrible statements about Islam and Muslims in general, like reffering to Muslims as animals? How can you argue a case like that? Do you think all of these 2 billion people agree to what a very small percentage is doing? No they dont! What is very annoying is to see statements full of racism and hate to Muslims, ordinary people that live among us! What most of the people here are doing are labeling these 2 billion people as TERRORISTS or ANIMALS or NAZIS! Have common sense,, is this acceptable??

Julian on June 1, 2010 at 12:34 am

This is the first I’ve heard of this incident but to me it stinks of being a set up. The IDF made a mistake in sending it’s soldiers down to the ship. They should have used the IAF to drop clusters of napalm and just sink the darn thing, along with the 600 or so terrorists on board. That’s just Monday morning quarterbacking of course. I wonder if we’ll ever get a look at the cargo manifest for the ship. Not the condensed version or a phony one but the real cargo manifest. It will be veerrrryyyyy interesting to see just what the ship is carrying.

kenny komodo on May 31, 2010 at 11:07 pm

Julian/Mohammed sez:

“but whats happening is that there are a lot of very very very horrible statements about Islam and Muslims in general, like reffering to Muslims as animals? How can you argue a case like that? Do you think all of these 2 billion people agree to what a very small percentage is doing? No they dont!”

J/M, the standard figure is around 1.5 billion Muslims. Inflating numbers is a typical Muslim tactic. As for “horrible” statements about Islam and Muslims in general, well, I for one, am quite competent in Islam, and I am confident that my view of it as a barbaric totalitarian ideology possibly engendered by satan (based on evidence surrounding the first meeting between “Gabriel” and Mo, as well as the Satanic Verses).

I expect there were some unwilling Nazis that didn’t hate Jews, but it’s hard to believe these were the majority. The history of Islam is based on the subjugation, expulsion, forced conversion, and slaughter of the kuffar (infidel). Canonical Islam prescribes exactly such actions. It doesn’t matter that most Muslims will not have erudite readings of Islam. It’s just necessary that they follow their imams, which is what they do. The majority doesn’t have to, personally, blow itself up to be part of the machinery of jihad.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 11:37 am

And I know the post that I had just written wasn’t going to register in your mind or convince you, because I know how thick you are. But maybe you can try to live under a brutal occupation with no water, electricity or food, and daily humiliation, beating, and break-ins by soldiers! Then I’m sure you’ll probably be backing Hamas 100% and maybe even be the one that is hitting those cowardly IDF soldiers.

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:12 pm

Poor “Julian,” I mean Mohammed. I only with that Israel were nearly as brutal as he/it claims. It is a great sin that Israeli leaders haven’t slaughtered the Bnei Amalek (Muslims) by now.

Doing so would be a great mitzvah. One is not dealing with human beings, but with animals. Because of their totalitarian ideology, Muslims qualify for as much respect as Nazis.

skzion on May 31, 2010 at 11:25 pm

Oh my god! I didn’t know this blog was sponsored by some Radical Jewish Organization, because that’s what it seems like to me! Oh by the way Skzion, I mean “Shlomo”, your last comment proves and represents all the Jews psychology: You are desperately frightened of another Holocaust happening! Its really sad, you are saying everything you are accusing the Muslims of saying, you masochist! And in the end, you connect Muslims to Nazis, but not you, who wants to slaughter all the Muslims and describing it as a “great mitzvah”!
What is even more sad, is that you still think that this entire occupation is a lie and everything that’s happening in it! Wow! Just Wow! Please go on and say that the IDF is the most moral army in the world! Oh yea and that Miss America is a spy from Hezbollah (Oh wait,, that’s Debbie’s line) PATHETIC!

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:38 pm

Julian/Mohammed now sez:

“your last comment proves and represents all the Jews psychology. . . .”

This is yet another example of how two-faced Islam and Muslims are. Having just said that one can’t comment about “2 billion” Muslims, J/M then asserts that my comments “prove” and “represtent” ALL Jews’ psychology. The basic way to read Julian/Mohammed is to assume it is (not he/she) is lying with the purpose of jihad.

“you are saying everything you are accusing the Muslims of saying, you masochist!”

Actually, I am responding to the Nazi-like Islamic ideology, and calling a spade a spade. If you weren’t evil, I wouldn’t bother to call you evil.

“And in the end, you connect Muslims to Nazis, but not you, who wants to slaughter all the Muslims and describing it as a “great mitzvah”!

No, all the Muslims in Eretz Israel, in keeping with “milkhemet mitzvah,” which relates to defensive war. While non-Jews are permitted–and permitted to prosper–in Eretz Israel, they must not attempt to undermine Jewish control or safety. Muslims have done so. You will notice, dear Muslim, that Islam has actually taken such Jewish concepts, perverted them, and created a doctrine of jihad.

“What is even more sad, is that you still think that this entire occupation is a lie”

Oh no. There is indeed a Muslim occupation; that’s no lie.

“Please go on and say that the IDF is the most moral army in the world!”

Actually, no it is not. The IDF is extremely immoral, for several reasons. The leadership sends men to be slaughtered by imposing a “purity of arms” doctrine. The IDF also is used to expel Jews from their homes, which is a sin. The IDF also does not win wars anymore (because of the leadership), thus imperiling all the Jews of Israel.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 11:57 am

“I only wish that Israel was as brutal as he/she claims”

You’ve got to be kidding me, right? I don’t know if brutal is enough to describe this terrorist state.

When a state, from the start, is the result of ethnic cleansing, and built on bloodshed, I don’t know how else to describe it by.

But again there are people like you, that would say Historic Palestine was 100% uninhabited and that the Jews made the desert bloom,, haha I got that one loads of time, pretty funny actually!

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:50 pm

Hey Julian/Mo:

Islam is based on genocide. This is core Islamic doctrine. You have no problem with “ethnic cleansing” at all.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 12:02 pm

Islamics should all do what their book of hate tells them to do and that is to return to mecca. And stay there and staaaaarve. Buh bye.

samurai on June 1, 2010 at 10:51 am

I blame the Israeli government 100%, although not for the reasons others will.

Does anyone think for a second that if the IDF dealt in the past with these barbarians along the lines Debbie calls for here that this would have happened?

Whomever in Israel is ordering that the Muslim animals be treated as humnans need to be held accountable for the end results. Court Martial those in the military and indict those in the government. Otherwise these policies will continue to endanger Israelis in the short run but you, me and the rest of the world are endangered in the long run.

I_AM_ME on May 31, 2010 at 11:16 pm

“Activist” is just another word for busybody. I don’t see how having 10 less of them in the world is a bad thing.

If Muslims cared so much about the Palestinian people, they would allow them onto the 90% or so land that they own in the mid-east. They keep them in Palestine for propaganda purposes against Israel, nothing more.

And I have little sympathy for people who destroy food or medicine simply because it comes from Israel.

F*ck Palestine.

Matt on May 31, 2010 at 11:28 pm

You have no right to talk about that 90% of land that Arabs own! AS long as these people were born, lived, and grew up in Palestine, then it is theirs, and no one has any right to push them out of it!
Oh let me just kick you out of your house right now, and tell you look at all the rest of the 99.999999999% of houses out there! you can go live in those?

Great Argument by the way,, I guess Debbie’s been tutoring you lol

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:53 pm

Julian/Mo sez:

“You have no right to talk about that 90% of land that Arabs own! AS long as these people were born, lived, and grew up in Palestine, then it is theirs, and no one has any right to push them out of it!”

Duh. Nearly all the Fakestinian “refugees” now living were not born in, and did not live in, Israel. So if one applies the international law standards that apply to every other group (not the one made up for the Muslims), there would be relatively few “refugees.” Also, you idiotically think that because someone squats on land, that makes it theirs. Land ownership is a legal concept, and the Fakestinians did not own much land. The Muslim-controlled land was owned by the Ottomans, then ceded to the British.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 12:09 pm

Julian,

Yes or No, were the Israelis soldiers attacked? If yes, didn’t they have a right to retaliate?

Norman Blitzer on May 31, 2010 at 11:31 pm

Norman Blitzer,

Before I answer you’re question, you answer mine. Why did the IDF, in the first place, attack the ship! What would your reaction be to soldiers attacking and storming the ship you were on! Any normal human beings response would be a Fight of Flight response! Thanks

Julian on May 31, 2010 at 11:40 pm

You know the Jews have no right to resist. If those soldiers had been slaughtered, those same nations rounding on Israel in a fury would have remained silent. That is the way it has always been throughout Jewish history. The Jew must know his place and submit to the blows of his betters. No wonder the world is so upset! The nerve of those Jews daring to live. We know what is behind this outrage: barely disguised anti-Semitism.

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 1:08 am

Amen, Matt!

One more thing:

I might be missing something, but since Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, I don’t recall the Palestinian Arabs ever declaring their state of independence there. I can’t see what’s stopping them from doing so.

It wouldn’t happen to be because the conflict with Israel has absolutely nothing to do with with the “Palestinian” Arabs wanting their own state and has instead everything to do with the Arabs/Muslims wanting to destroying Israel (G-d forbid), would it?

JeffE on May 31, 2010 at 11:44 pm

I think Obama should award the IDF guys who first boarded the ship without firing their weapons, his new recognition for showing restraint. I highly commend these guys for following orders not to shoot. They were willing to commit suicide rather than disobey orders not to fight. Good job guys, hope you get the medal. You deserve it. You also should get a medal for stupidity. How could you repel on the deck of an enemy ship and expect to be greeted buy a friendly muslom welcoming committee.
I would have either called in sick that day or else come down shooting. I wouldn’t get a medal, but I’d get to come home to my wife and kids.

Scott W on May 31, 2010 at 11:52 pm

Apparently, this terrorist interception “complicates the peace process” but missiles landing on S’derot do not.

I get it. I really do!

This story is just a big media circus. As far as I can tell, the only ones who REALLY care about it are Israelis. I hope they don’t wring their hands too much over it. It’s much to do about nothing.

The usual chorus from anti-Semites is being sung again. It goes like this: “Now we REALLY hate the Jews!”

This crap is getting so old and repetitive that people aren’t paying much attention to it anymore.

There is NO Santa Claus on June 1, 2010 at 12:38 am

This video clip shows how intelligently Israeli government has prepared it’s justification of the killings. The simple “cut and paste technique” was used. if this is what happened aboard the ship then the 19 dead must be IDF soldiers rather than opposite counterpart. They have successfully deluded everyone to think on what they have seen in clips, the so called weapons and the Israeli soldiers being beaten. Everyone has completely forgotten the following facts:-
1) this was a humanitarian aid convoy.
2) 9/19 were killed, these were civilians.
3) the ship was still in the international waters, Israelis had no right to board the ship
4) people, I repeat people are dying in Gaza because of the lack basic necessities as a result of the blockage.
5) Israeli is occupying Palestinian lands.

Joe on June 1, 2010 at 12:43 am

They were terrorists. It was an act of war, organized by Turkey against Israel. They came to kill Jews and to strengthen Hamas. And they wanted – and got the world to condemn Israel for in my view, taking out too few of the animals who tried to kill Jews.

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 7:59 am

Hey Joe-the-Muslim: you have not a single “fact” among those five offerings.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 4:25 pm

I was hearing that Shapiro clown talk to our local lefty radio station on how the Israelis were to be blamed 100% for all this occuring
my two cents is the video shows them rappeling down a rope, no evidence of shooting by the IDF at the activists. Clearly the activists attacked the IDF as soon as they landed on the deck of the ships. This is straight out of the Hamas/Hezbollah playbook. Attack and provoke the Israelis, they retaliate, and go crying to the world that the Israelis are war criminals.

Mr. M on June 1, 2010 at 12:44 am

Debbie…. I suggest your next item should be the massacre in Lahore, Pakistan on the 28th when Islamic extremists attacked 2 mosques – Garhi Shahu and Model Town – packed with worshippers and left over a hundred dead. (Yawn)
At the surface Israel is fighting for its continued survival, not quite as obvious is the role of Israel as the vanguard in the struggle between the agenda of Islamic terrorism and the way of life in the (sometimes) civilized Western world.

Arn on June 1, 2010 at 12:52 am

Kingdom of David should be arise from the Nile to Euphrates!
God bless Israel!!
Israel should throw all those barbaric terrorist Muslims into the sea!!

Sarah on June 1, 2010 at 12:54 am

G-d’s message to Israel is: Look at the nations – you can’t put your faith in them. But you CAN put your faith in Me. Nothing in the world is a coincidence.

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 12:57 am

Julian,
There a lot of really stupid Palestinian/Muslim/whatever apologists that comment here, but you take the cake. Your total inability to comprehend my post, but still talk sh*t about it, is truly remarkable.

If I have “no right” to talk about the 90% of Muslim controlled land in the mid-east, why do you have any right to talk about Israel? Who the f*ck are you? Dumbass.

Matt on June 1, 2010 at 12:59 am

You people must understand that peace can never be attained by violence, you will live unconfortably until this notion gets into you heads. Everyone of you seems to be supporting the fact that it was right for IDF TO KILLL THOSE PEOPLE!
Well, continue to have hatrade and animosity and expect peace. Let ask you one simple question how many years Israel has been using “violence style” and no complete victory has been achieved? Isn’t it time for Israel to change?

Joe on June 1, 2010 at 1:49 am

Joe/Mohammed,

You are spewing jihadist propaganda. So while Muslims spread around the world with “violence” and “animosity,” no one can defend themselves from this onslaught? Everyone else has to be “peaceful” while Muslims commit terrorist acts with their everyday violence against anyone who is civilized?

It is always “blame the victims” with you Muslim barbarians. How many times was war inflicted upon Israel by Muslims? They have been the victims of Muslim aggression, and when they defend themselves, you whine and claim that THEY are the aggressors and you are the victims.

JM on June 1, 2010 at 10:20 am

Joe said that peace was never achieved through violence. Tell that to the people of the city of Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Stuuuuuupid bastard.

samurai on June 1, 2010 at 4:16 pm

I have a question for all you bloodsucking zionists who say everybody abord those ships should have been killed. What about the Americans who were on those ships? Should they have been killed? What about the Nobel Peace Prize winner who was aboard? Should she have been killed? Oh, never mind that question – you people kill your own Nobel Peace Prize winners, and are smugly proud of it; let alone goyum Nobel Peace Prize winners.

David on June 1, 2010 at 2:19 am

Nobel Prize big deal! Had we taken care of Arafat, Y”S, that would be on less Nobel winner to pollute the Earth and perhaps it would have prevented a lot of what has happened since. I guess if Ghengis Khan were alive, David, you’d want to give him a Nobel too. If this person even deserves the recognition, they are a massive waste of brain power and oxygen. As for Americans, if they choose to take upon themselves the role of enemy combatants, which is what a Blockade runner is, they they make themselves fair game for our Defense Force. What a stupid mixed up value system you have.

mk750 on June 1, 2010 at 3:06 am

Yes, they ALL should have been killed. When you’re a combatant against Israel AND support those trying to murder every Jew in that country, you deserve what you get coming to you. These were not “peaceful humanitarians.” These were enemies of Israel seeking to harm Jews and their identity is really irrelevant. Its their deed – helping a sworn enemy of Israel that in the end is what matters.

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 8:04 am

David/Mohammed sez:

“I have a question for all you bloodsucking zionists . . . ”

Nice. He starts out with anti-Semitic tropes. But then, it (not he) is a Muslim.

“who say everybody abord those ships should have been killed. What about the Americans who were on those ships? Should they have been killed?”

Yes. America has its share of terrorists, and it’s always fun when they are killed so efficiently.

“What about the Nobel Peace Prize winner who was aboard?”

Yes. In general, I think that Nobel Peace Prize winners should be targeted as a priority.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 4:29 pm

Thank you Debbie. I agree except you denigrate the animal kingdom which just does according to their G-d given nature. These creatures on the ships are below them. Ruled by demonic spirits.

mk750 on June 1, 2010 at 2:50 am

The only thing Isreal did wrong was to put feet on the boat. I would have just dropped a couple of missiles on the boat.

Dave on June 1, 2010 at 6:44 am

Filthy, bloodthirsty muslims spreading that “religion of peace” again.

IDF should have torpedoed the flotilla and been done with it.

DS_ROCKS! on June 1, 2010 at 6:58 am

You rock! Israel has been too politically correct in dealing with barbarians. Had all the boats been sunk, Israel could walk with its head high today. When you’re at war, then act like it!

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 8:07 am

I think we should all ignore “Julian” until he uses his real name. I have feeling he wasn’t born “Julian.”

As for Israel, I concur with the rest. The IDF/IAF should have sunk the boats.

Don Kenner on June 1, 2010 at 8:25 am

Were you born Don Kenner? How about these, should we ignore them as well:-
DS ROCKS, Mr. M, There is no Santa Claus etc, are these their real names? It is not about names dumb head, it is about the truth.

Joe on June 1, 2010 at 9:18 am

Joe/Mohammed:

Are you just an idiot? I know you’re an animal, but some animals are intelligent. The point was the use of non-Muslim nics to pretend that normal people (i.e., non-Muslims) side with Muslims.

Now do you get it?

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 4:32 pm

Don Keller and company,
So you want the ship to be sunk? So you think 19 killed is not enough and you want 600 innocent civilians dead, if that is how you think then what is the difference between yourselves and Nazis?

Joe on June 1, 2010 at 9:25 am

Joe/Mohammed,

The ship was carrying a bunch of modern Nazis, i.e. Muslims and their supporters. Nazis wanted all Jews dead and spread false and malicious propaganda about Jews–just like what you are doing by characterizing this flotilla as “peaceful,” and its terrorist supporters on board as “innocent civilians.”

You Muslims are the modern Nazis, with your hatred of Jews, and your wish to take over the world and spread your barbaric way of life. I don’t feel the least bit sorry that 19 Nazis were killed. The whole ship should have been sunk.

JM on June 1, 2010 at 9:50 am

So let’s get one thing straight, first we do not know if this video is real or not.
And even if it is, Israeli forces attacked/boarded a turkish ship in international waters, that is piracy.
The people on the boat had every right to defend themselves.

Predicted on June 1, 2010 at 9:43 am

NOT when a blockade is in place and it is the blockading nation’s troops who board. Sorry the following is a bit long but it is a series of talkbacks from Vosizneias.com 1/6/10 about the Laws governing this situation.

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5. In this vein, it should be noted that Israel publicized the existence of the blockade and the precise coordinates of such by means of the accepted international professional maritime channels. Israel also provided appropriate notification to the affected governments and to the organizers of the Gaza protest flotilla. Moreover, in real time, the ships participating in the protest flotilla were warned repeatedly that a maritime blockade is in effect.??6. Here, it should be noted that under customary law, knowledge of the blockade may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification has been granted, as above.??7. Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in effect, no boats can enter the blockaded area. That includes both civilian and enemy vessels.

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8. A State may take action to enforce a blockade. Any vessel that violates or attempts to violate a maritime blockade may be captured or even attacked under international law. The US Commander’s Handbook on the Law of Naval Operations sets forth that a vessel is considered to be in attempt to breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade.??9. Here we should note that the protesters indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade by means of written and oral statements. Moreover, the route of these vessels indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade in violation of international law.??10. Given the protesters explicit intention to violate the naval blockade, Israel exercised its right under international law to enforce the blockade. It should be noted that prior to undertaking enforcement measures, explicit warnings were relayed directly to the captains of the vessels, expressing Israel’s intent to exercise its right to enforce the blockade.

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11. Israel had attempted to take control of the vessels participating in the flotilla by peaceful means and in an orderly fashion in order to enforce the blockade. Given the large number of vessels participating in the flotilla, an operational decision was made to undertake measures to enforce the blockade a certain distance from the area of the blockade.??12. Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protesters and acted in self defense to fend off such attacks.??To #7, put your swastika back on.

mk750 on June 1, 2010 at 11:13 am

Sorry, here are the first Four Points:

Legal Background – 31 May 2010?1. A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been smuggled into Gaza via the sea.?2. Maritime blockades are a legitimate and recognized measure under international law that may be implemented as part of an armed conflict at sea.?3. A blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so long as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral States.?4. The naval manuals of several western countries, including the US and England recognize the maritime blockade as an effective naval measure and set forth the various criteria that make a blockade valid, including the requirement of give due notice of the existence of the blockade.

mk750 on June 1, 2010 at 11:14 am

Israel left Gaza, the Palestinians tore up all the farms,
greenhouses, infrastructure left behind. Hamas has been smuggling weapons for their continuing rocket attacks on
Israel for years. Israel controls 3 of Gaza’s borders and
does it’s best to intercept arms and contraband, Egypt
controls the 4th border and does the same thing, even
destroying tunnels running into Gaza for the purpose of
smuggling weapons. No one ever knocks Egypt for it’s
blockade of Gaza. Humanitarian aid can get into Gaza as
long as it is inspected by Egyptian or Israeli officials.

This was a set up, something the jihadists do very well. Bibi
is trying to make nice with Obama, trying to be politically
correct, but they miscalculated in this affair. They inspected
5 of the ships with no problem but when they attempted to inspect the 6th they ran into a buzz saw. It’s laughable that
the Muslim apologists call the inspection an attack by the IDF,
but very typical of their warped thinking. Real peace activists do not work someone over with a pipe.

Daniel K on June 1, 2010 at 9:45 am

This issue I am going to have to disagree with you on Debbie. Even with this video and all the others I have seen and news stories read all night long. If I am attacked in the dark, at sea, in international waters even I will defend myself as an inalienable right which all Americans are well aware they have as human beings. This whole mess could have been avoided if the IDF had followed the US Coast Guards lead to use daylight and honorable tactics. This reminds of the time the IDF fired a missile into on of the USS Liberty June 8, 1967 killing 34 US sailors and injuring 171. The IDF has long been known to overstep bounds which have been overlooked or people in key spots have looked the other way. This is not yesterday and news travels instantly around the world. Israel needs to save face here and at least supervise aid into Gaza in a peaceful gesture of face international outrage costing even more.

Atlee Yarrow on June 1, 2010 at 9:49 am

I have to agree with Debbie on this one. If I’m a burglar, obviously I have the right to murder a householder if he tries to resist me, right? If I’m a mugger I clearly have the right to murder my victim if he raises a finger in self-defence – it’s self-evident. If I’m a pirate I have a God-given right to mow down with a machine gun anyone on board a target ship who tries to repel me – they’re asking for it.

Go for it girl, I’m with you all the way. Let’s stand up for lawless thugs and bandits! Let their innocent victims rot in hell; murder’s too good for ’em!

MJ on June 1, 2010 at 10:26 am

Are you absolutely on drugs, or are you just blindly and blithely biased by the Israeli propaganda.

Israel, illegally, in international waters boarded in a night-time mission with commandos, a civiliam craft which had slowed down waiting for light and was miles from the -internataionally recognised- illegal blockade of Gaza.

To top that off, they illegally detained 700 activists of -all- nationalities, brought them to Israel and refused them legal council while forcing them to sign documents that stated they entered Israeli territory illegally.

I’m not in the slightest surprised that they defended themselves. Even now Israel are admitting that they found -no- guns on the ship, that indeed the Cyprian authorities were right in their inspections of those on board and the cargo (that no threat was presented by them). The only guns on that ship were the ones the israeli commandos brought on board.

Seriously, who believes the propaganda?

Keith on June 1, 2010 at 10:37 am

And quite frankly, if you read any history of the foundation of the Israeli state and the ensuing violent clashes with increasingly armed Israeli settlers with local Arabs from 1950s onwards, you’d probably realise that Israel is the sole cause of its own problems.

And I’m Irish, I don’t even have to learn this for my degree. Its just a case of reading history.

Keith on June 1, 2010 at 10:40 am

Keith, what makes you sympathize so much with Muslims? You obviously don’t know your Catholic faith or history very much.

You are probably a lapsed “Catholic,” (and, thus, hardly Irish) who will now believe anything, including Muslim lies and propaganda. Can you name a single Muslim country that give equal rights to non-Muslims?

JM on June 1, 2010 at 11:31 am

This just in, IDF bans avocados, spices, jam, and chocolate from Gaza because they are “luxury items” states Israeli military official. cite: newsweek.com

Atlee Yarrow on June 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm

Yeah, sure.

Are you sheeple really falling for this? The FULL VIDEO was more than 9 minutes long, the beginning of which it shows the Israelis firing random shots on the ship BEFORE boarding.

I don’t blame the activists, they must have been mighty pissed off that their friends got shot and suddenly Israeli commandos are rappelling in expecting everyone to just come quietly? Somebody just shot/injured your friend, what do you do? Sit down, cover your ears and pretend nothing happened?

These activists also had NO FIREARMS OR FIREBOMBS. These ‘firebombs’ were flares and bottles of medicine with IV tubes (possibly mistaken for fuses, easy to see). These firearms were taken off the first few Israeli commandos who were mobbed.

The commandos were armed with non-lethal weaponry for a reason- to reduce casualties. But guess what? We’ve got ten people dead.

Stay classy, Schlussel.

HERPDERP on June 1, 2010 at 10:45 am

Those 10 are not people, HERPDERP.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 4:34 pm

Did some reading over breakfast this morning. Apparently, those nice Turkish/HAMAS “peace” activists named their lead ship the…Rachel Corrie.

Lovely.

cirrus1701 on June 1, 2010 at 10:52 am

“Apparently, those nice Turkish/HAMAS “peace” activists named their lead ship the…Rachel Corrie. ”

No, those lovely Irish Nationals including a Nobel Peace Prize winner named the Irish ship the Rachael Corrie, after a 23year-old Irish-American who was steamrolled over my an IDF tank.

Saluté

Keith on June 1, 2010 at 11:01 am

Keith,

What was Rachael Corrie doing standing in front of a tank in Gaza during the Second Intifada? What a dumb ass she was. Natural selection.

She also burned the American flag. She was a traitor who deserved to die.

What is it with you Irish and your kissing of Muslim ass? You weren’t tired enough of kissing English ass, so now you have replaced the British with the Muslims?

JM on June 1, 2010 at 11:23 am

Why sink their ship when you can steal it?

The Terrorist's Advocate on June 1, 2010 at 10:54 am

..other then in Korea…( where there is a maniac in charge up north)…can anyone name ANY place on the planet where there is armed military conflict/terrorism ( non drug related) that does NOT involve muslims??….just wondering…probably just a coincidence

Catfur on June 1, 2010 at 12:04 pm

Catfur, even the violence in Bangkok, Thailand has its origins in Islam. Prime Minister Thaksin was overthrown in the coup of 2006 by a Muslim general. Thaksin was democratically elected and took a common sense, hardline approach to the Muslim terrorists in the south. After constant attacks by Muslims over the years, who killed numerous innocent Buddhist civilians and policemen, Thaksin retaliated and the military killed many Muslim terrorists.

The head of the Thai army that overthrew democratically elected Thaksin was a Muslim, and he placed himself as Prime Minister. In effect, it was a way to get rid of Thaksin by Muslims. That set off the chain of events that led up to the battles in Bangkok last month.

JM on June 1, 2010 at 12:34 pm

JM, I was not aware of this.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 4:35 pm

After searching, I find no evidence that the Thai PM, Abhisit Vejjajiva, is a Muslim.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 5:57 pm

As I have said before, a few well trained snipers could have taken care of this in less than a minute. Just remember what the U.S. Navy Seals did to those three dumbass muzzie raghead pirates / terrorists that were taken out on the open seas, and they never hit the hostage. One shot, one kill!! Take out about 3 of these morons per boat and they would turn around very quickly.

And to you muzzie apologizers, they were with and supporting terrorists, so they should die like terrorists. As to the nobel prize winners, it’s too bad gore and carter weren’t with them.

Jarhead on June 1, 2010 at 12:12 pm

DIE BITCH!

kiss my ass on June 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm

I was trying to jack this car, and when I pulled out my gun, the family inside tried to lynch me!

Peter M. on June 1, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Peter/Ahmed, an idiot, sez:

“I was trying to jack this car, and when I pulled out my gun, the family inside tried to lynch me!

Peter M. on June 1, 2010 at 12:26 pm”

Hey Ahmed, the analogy is inapt because carjacking is illegal, but the illegality in the present situation is squarely on the part of the terrorists and terrorist aiders on the boats. Muslims like you do not understand that you do NOT have carte blanche to go where you will, to squat, either on land or on boats in the sea, without hindrance.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 6:03 pm

You people killed Jesus, whobelse would you spare?

Joe on June 1, 2010 at 6:55 pm

Joe/Mohammed, you know that in your religion, Jesus was not killed. It’s quite dishonest to suggest the contrary.

skzion on June 2, 2010 at 10:45 am

“a few well trained snipers could have taken care of this in less than a minute”.

Well said Jarhead, excellent idea! The next flotilla should have a few snipers on board. If any pirates try to get on they’ll be left dangling dead as a UN resolution before they hit the deck and can do any damage!

MJ on June 1, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Catfur, and if talking about North Korea being non-muslim, well, I’m sure you remember that Israel bombed Syria a few years ago, and, surprisingly, loud mouth Syria didn’t even complain at first? This was a nuclear plant which was built by North Korea, so we have here, again, the influence of the Muslims, the poor, innocent, victims, who are always being accused of horrible things, and, off course, for no reason. They are so…… innocent. Right. Oh, and excuse me for Generalizing, Jilian, Joe, whatever your real names are.

Tal on June 1, 2010 at 12:35 pm

Heck, come to think of it, even the goddam second world war had its origins in Islam. Hiroshima, Dresden, the concentration camps and all that. World war I too. Vietnam? Muslims top to toe without a doubt. Jeez, Muslims wiped out the dinosaurs too! Kill all Muslims!! Then we can kill each other without Muslims being involved!!!

MJ on June 1, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Actually, MJ, Hitler knew of, and was mighty impressed by, Islam and your “ideal man” Mo. He evidently was sorry that Germans were not Muslims, as Christianity did not facilitate his plans the way Islam would.

Also, the first genocide of the century was of course by the Muslims against the Armenians, and this “final solution” did influence Hitler’s thinking, some at least say.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Jarhead

I could not agree more with your solution.

I would add that Israel should just get this over with and nuke the “Palestinian Territories’.

How much longer should Israel have to put up with these Muslim fanatics.

ScottyDog on June 1, 2010 at 2:07 pm

ScottyDog, but how will the Jews in Israel get any sleep because of the late night glow coming from the “Palestinian Territories”?

Jarhead on June 1, 2010 at 4:04 pm

Now now Spottydog, that’s a bit extreme. Be more civilised. Why not brand all them Palestinian ragheads with the star and crescent, ship them off to nice camps (heck, most of them are there anyway) then gas ’em? Surely that’s a nicer way to deal with the problem? It’s worked before and it’ll work again, hell yes. It also means you can harvest all their organs without them getting radioactive (which pushes down the value considerably I understand).

MJ on June 1, 2010 at 2:40 pm

MJ, you love genocide, so I don’t see why you complain about poison gas. What you don’t like is that YOU would be on the receiving end.

skzion on June 1, 2010 at 6:07 pm

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3 Facts You Need to Know About the Israeli Attack on Peace Activists on the Gaza Flotilla
Our main media organizations have willingly allowed Israeli spokespeople to fill the airwaves with misinformation. Let’s reiterate a few simple facts.
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It is quite astounding that Israel has been able to create over the past 12 hours a news blackout, just as it did with its attack on Gaza 18 months ago, into which our main media organisations have willingly allowed Israeli spokespeople to step in unchallenged.

How many civilians were killed in Israel’s dawn attack on the Gaza-bound flotilla of aid? We still don’t know. How many wounded? Your guess is as good as mine. Were the aid activists armed with guns? Yes, says Israel. Were they in cahoots with al-Qaeda and Hamas? Certainly, says Israel. Did the soldiers act reasonably? Of course, they faced a lynch, says Israel.

If we needed any evidence of the degree to which Western TV journalists are simply stenographers to power, the BBC, CNN and others are amply proving it. Mark Regev, Israel’s propagandist-in-chief, has the airwaves largely to himself.

The passengers on the ships, meanwhile, have been kidnapped by Israel and are unable to provide an alternative version of events. We can guess they will remain in enforced silence until Israel is sure it has set the news agenda.

So before we get swamped by Israeli hasbara let’s reiterate a few simple facts:

* Israeli soldiers invaded these ships in international waters, breaking international law, and, in killing civilians, committed a war crime. The counter-claim by Israeli commanders that their soldiers responded to an imminent “lynch” by civilians should be dismissed with the loud contempt it deserves.

* The Israeli government approved the boarding of these aid ships by an elite unit of commandoes. They were armed with automatic weapons to pacify the civilians onboard, but not with crowd dispersal equipment in case of resistance. Whatever the circumstances of the confrontation, Israel must be held responsible for sending in soldiers and recklessly endangering the lives of all the civilians onboard, including a baby.

Israel has no right to control Gaza’s sea as its own territorial waters and to stop aid convoys arriving that way. In doing so, it proves that it is still in belligerent occupation of the enclave and its 1.5 million inhabitants. And if it is occupying Gaza, then under international law Israel is responsible for the welfare of the Strip’s inhabitants. Given that the blockade has put Palestinians there on a starvation diet for the past four years, Israel should long ago have been in the dock for committing a crime against humanity.

Israel chose to direct its deadly assault not only at Palestinians under occupation but at the international community itself.

Will our leaders finally be moved to act?

Dina on June 1, 2010 at 3:51 pm

Israel has every right – and the duty to protect its population and cities from the Hamas Islamic fascists. Israel has had to impose a blockade to prevent their rearmament by Iran. The world hypocritically condemns Israel but offers Israel no real alternative to keep its citizens safe. The blockade could last for a long time. The US has blockaded Cuba for over 50 years and shows no signs of lifting it any time soon. And if Israel is forced to choose between being in the world’s good graces or protecting Jewish lives, there is no doubt what it will choose. It done so and will do it again – regardless of what the world thinks.

NormanF on June 1, 2010 at 10:16 pm

“It is quite astounding that Israel has been able to create over the past 12 hours a news blackout, just as it did with its attack on Gaza 18 months ago, into which our main media organisations have willingly allowed Israeli spokespeople to step in unchallenged.”

Huh???!!!

I_AM_ME on June 1, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Dina and I_AM_ME
You people are so full of it that I words fail to describe what morons you are for defending an obvious dog and pony show by the terrorists in Gaza.

Go spread your lies and propaganda to someone who cares.

ScottyDog on June 1, 2010 at 5:14 pm

Here’s a partial list of carnage caused by over 70 attacks between just 2001 and 2004 that the anti-Israel peace crusaders should be confronted with:

* June 1, 2001 – 21 killed and 120 Israelis – mostly teenagers – wounded outside a Tel Aviv disco.

* August 9, 2001 – 15 people were killed, including 7 children, and 130 injured in a suicide bombing at Sbarro’s in downtown Jerusalem.

* December 1, 2001 – two genocide bombers detonated explosive devices on Jerusalem’s Ben Yehuda’s pedestrian mall on a Saturday night. A car bomb exploded nearby 20 minutes later. Ten people were killed, including many children, and 188 were injured.

* February 16, 2002 – A suicide bomber deliberately targeted Jewish children sitting at a pizzeria in the town of Karnei Shomron. Three children died and over 30 were wounded.

* March 9, 2002 – A suicide bomber kills 11 people and injures 54 in a crowded Cafe in Jerusalem.

* March 27, 2002 – At a Passover Seder in a Netanya hotel, a genocide bomber belonging to Fatah’s al-Aqsa Martyrs detonated an explosive device, killing 30 and injuring 132, including many children and elderly.

* January 5, 2003 – 23 people were killed, and more than 80 were wounded when two Palestinian murderers blew themselves up near the old Tel Aviv bus station.

* June 11, 2003 – Sixteen Israelis were killed and more than 100 were wounded when a homicide bomber, dressed as an ultra-Orthodox Jew, detonated his explosives belt on a bus in downtown Jerusalem. Palestinian terrorists have attempted 11 homicide bombings and murdered 23 Israelis in the last 4 days, since Palestinians “accepted” the international “roadmap for peace.”

* January 15, 2004 – Two Israeli soldiers, a border policeman, and a security guard for a private manpower company, were murdered by a female suicide bomber at the Erez Gaza crossing.

* September 1, 2004 – Two suicide bombers exploded almost simultaneously on two buses in central Beersheba, killing 16 innocents and wounding dozens.

ScottyDog on June 1, 2010 at 5:20 pm

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