And what’s worse…They smoke the pot.

Jaime R on August 10, 2006 at 6:16 pm

Im sure the DEA would lock them up longer for the dope smoking then the TSA or ICE would for all the terrorism charges

BEF on August 10, 2006 at 7:34 pm

Are these guys citizens? When you say homegrown do you mean they were born here?
This is one scary post.
THEY WERE BOTH BORN AND RAISED HERE. I BELIEVE THAT WAS ADDRESSED ON THE PREVIOUS POST ON THESE TWO TERRORISTS.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

La Ventanita on August 10, 2006 at 8:33 pm

Keeps getting worse by the hour! Their favorite organization has posted some updates on their website indirectly giving them the idea of what to carry. The only way to prevent reoccurence is by throwing these terrorist sand mofos back into the craphole they crawled from. But it will never occur to the terrorist sensitivity trained idiots, right?
http://adc.org/index.php?id=2920
Transportation Security Administration Issues New Air Travel Guidelines
In response to recent events in the United Kingdom, the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) has raised the United States Threat Levels and implemented new air travel guidelines.
No liquids or gels of any kind will be allowed in carry on baggage. All such items must be checked before boarding the aircraft. This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency.

anonymous twit on August 10, 2006 at 8:46 pm

REPOSTING FRANKLEV’S POST:
“I tend to agree with Lawmans points. Plenty of people engage in buying bulk cellphones — especially tracfones. just look on ebay. Most are sold in the US by the thousands per month. this is legal.
What is going on is tracfones are sold in the US at a substantial subsidy and low minute intial purchase phones are way cheaper than buying phones outright.
Tracfone works on GSM and it is easy to remove the chips, unlock the phones subisidy lock (not in itself illegal) and ship the phones for a good profit. Indeed a HUGE number of new unlocked tracphones are sold in the US on EBAY everyday for about $20 over retail. bulk buying in lots of 10 to 20k is at $25 a unit. http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/13876937/Buy_Nokia_Tracfone_1100.html
Looking at walmart this week they had a tracfone on sale for an unusually low $15wiht calling credits — and this phone is currently on sale on ebay for $60 new unlocked.
The chips are removed becasue they typcially have a $20 residual value IN THE US. Just look on ebay.
So yes they are used by drug dealers, terrorists etc but but 99.99% of the time this exact same scheme on a much larger order of magnitude is used in the US, stays in the US, and has nothign to do with anything criminal and is just taking advantage of a price differential caused by the phone subisisdy. In markets this is called — arbitrage.
Indeed on slickdeals and fatwallet such deals on tracfones are noted regularly some people do it with one or two phones or any othe product, but ebayers do it by the hundreds and thousands.
A $30 differential on the phone, plus $20 calling credit value on the chips (for perfecly legal uses in the US) is $50 per phone. fro the scheme it looks like the kids were getting $5 plus the cards or $25×600 units which would be $15,000 gross minus gas, minus labor and ebay fees or amaybe $3000 a piece for spending a week driving to different walmarts. this is good money but not stunning.
The cash is used to make the puchases because walmart, best buy, circuit city maintain “devil customer” lists and ebayers prefer cash so they don’t get placed on such a list and have their puchases blocked as obvious ebayers.
Just ask anyone in electronics retail. often chains will put a item on sale and the first couple of guys in in the morning might buy 100 units at a clip and drive to the next store in the chain and empty out their stock as well and so on. they then go up on ebay.
I had to laugh at the sttement by the sheriff on thephones: “They are digital and can be used to detonate car bombs.” Allphones are now digital and phones pass though amatuer buying groups by the hundreds of thousands per year.
As far as the airline information the two suspects have said the papers are old and the vehicle belonged to a relative who works for the airlines. If that is false then it is suspect. If it is true this is just a bunch of guys going after a gray market like tens of thousands of ebayers and small exporters.”

Jaime R on August 10, 2006 at 9:24 pm

Debbie, you named the two Dearborn terrorists charged in Ohio: Ali Houssaiky and Osama Sobhi Abulhassan. Have you ascertained the identity of their mother? I will just add one observation here: they keep telling us ethnic profiling does NOT work. Uh huh. I recall awhile back, a rapper, an Arab American, worked as a TSA baggage handler. This nasty guy sent you a “love letter” as I recall. They kept this sick puppy on at TSA, which a part of Homeland Security, for a couple of years AFTER 9/11. Now we hear about these kids’ mother. It makes me all feel better the Feds are doing their jobs. Or rather that the State Of Ohio is doing the jobs the clueless Feds ought to be doing in the first place – but aren’t.

NormanF on August 10, 2006 at 10:12 pm

Debbie: Thank you for keeping us posted on this important story. In the wake of the other news from yesterday we need to begin asking more questions about incidents like the Dearbornistan Terror Boys.
The British bomb plot should awaken all but the willfully ignorant to the fact that we are in a war and it is being fought all around us on a daily basis in many small ways like the Dearbornistan Terror Boys.
And no doubt you saw the other Ohio cell phone story:
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=12983
The television station that first reported that incident in Grafton, Ohio has finally gotten around to identifying the man who was stopped with the phones: 24-year-old Hashem Sayed.

Mike on August 10, 2006 at 11:32 pm

with the frequency that political correctness trumps law enforcement, it’s a miracle we’re all still alive

sultan_knish on August 11, 2006 at 1:44 am

my big concern is these TRACFONES and places like walmart selling multiple TRACPHONES to single indivuals i wrote TRACFONE about this but i have not heard back from them i’ll be writing walmart today why isn’t the fbi / homeland security doing at least the same everyone need to keep an eye open for muslims buying multiple TRACFONES and stop them ANY WAY YOU CAN i wouldn’t be suprised if these chips are killing our service men in iraq not to mention israel

the Burn on August 11, 2006 at 8:38 am

Debbie,
If their mom worked at the Airport security, it is very possible that she had access to these lists for trainining or other purposes.
Reasoning on the lines of ‘the kids are terrorists because they had access to mom’s work material’ and the ‘mom is a mother to a terrorist because her son was caught with the airport work matertial in mom’s car’ will not last in court and as a lawyer I am sure you are aware of that.
I havnt researched the case like you have (so for now I would defer to your pronouncements)
From what I have seen, there is nothing in this case which suggests that these kids were engaged in terrorist activities.
The only thing alarming was the ‘airport screening material’ as I mentioned in my post yesterday and the fact that the mom worked as an airport screener and the airport material was found in her car seems to me to be a pretty credible explanation.

lawman on August 11, 2006 at 9:21 am

It’s amazing how many pro-terrorist posters on this blog are making excuses for these two Muzlum savages who are aiding and abetting Islamic terror.
First of all, these two Muzlum scumbags were giving these Tracfones to another Muzlum who lives in Dearborn, MI and who also happens to be on the FBI Watch List.
Second of all, if these Tracfone purchases were so benign, which they aren’t, then why did these skells have Wal-Maart locations all over the Southeast and directions to them?
Now about the mother: I hope she’s getting put under the microscope, too, because I don’t see ANY reason anyone should have passenger lists in their possession. Passenger lists taken home do NOT increase safety. On the contrary, it decreases safety because there’s obviously a flaw in the system. Here we have someone who has access to flight lists that indicate who is to take what flight, and when. Now, just suppose the terrorists wanted to “eliminate” someone. They’d know exactly when that person would be at the airport and at what terminal. If they don’t take out the whole plane, they could just as easily “eliminate” that person(s) as he (they) stepped into the terminal.
This whole thing reeks!
But, Muzlum posters like Lawman, and terrorist apologists like Jaime R will deceive anyone who’ll listen.

Thee_Bruno on August 11, 2006 at 11:18 am

Just another great post by Debbie deserved of very much attention. These Mooo-slims are playing our nation’s legal compassion, goodwill & media like an arabian snake charmer.

Chicagoray on August 11, 2006 at 2:06 pm

The original information about the plan came from the Muslim community in Britain, according to a British intelligence official.
“The plotters intended this to be a second September 11th,” said British Homeland Security adviser Frances Townsend. “It’s a frightening example of multiple, simultaneous attacks for explosions of planes that would have caused the death of thousands.”
The tip resulted from a person who had been concerned about the activities of an acquaintance after the July 7, 2005, terror attacks in London, the official said.
Straight from : http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/11/terror.plot/index.html?eref=yahoo
Not all Muslims are bad, and some even help law enforcement in the fight against terrorism.
Not that you guys will care anyways, you’ll just say that CNN is trying to push some kind of agenda.
Oh well.

Descent on August 11, 2006 at 2:52 pm

Gee whiz. In a world with 1.1 billion 7th century-minded Muzlumz, you have one who did something. And, who knows what that person’s REAL motives were.
BTW, where’s all the Muzlum rage from the likes of CAIR-less?
Silence = Agreement!

Thee_Bruno on August 11, 2006 at 4:58 pm

This is only the beginning. After they come to buy the phones, they will expect more. They bribe with money, with cigarettes, and then, get this, they ask you to work for them. Why would the stores stop selling…you have to be careful that you aren’t being racist and if they (stores) are making a profit, then it’s that, a profit. Yet, the cigarettes are from other states, even states not of their own dwelling. They start calling on a weekly basis asking to call as soon as your next shipment comes in. They ask you not to sell to others, as if. Then they will leave you numbers to contact them. Some legit, some not. I googled one number and got a telecommunication business…to then look it up again at a later date and it is listed as a private cell number. It is never ending and a headache. The “right” people don’t care or even slightly interested. Then what do you do when your employees are too scared to come to work, convinced the store has been bugged (a whole other story), and threaten to quit because of these sales?! I wish Tracfone would vanish.

Tired on April 15, 2007 at 11:51 pm