How you could listen to that idiotic drivel and not blown a gasket is beyond me.

Ripper on July 17, 2006 at 3:54 pm

Jimmy Carter by the way, was as close to being an example of just picking any name out of the phone book and making him President, as you could get.

Ripper on July 17, 2006 at 4:01 pm

Ripper–
Given that Carter essentially jump-started Islamist terrorism with his treatment of the late Shah, he will probably be remembered as one of the five worst presidents in American history.
There is literally nothing on the positive side of his resume, and that is a truly stunning achievement.
I mean, no one hates FDR and Tommy Wilson, for example, more than I do, but objectively, you could point at some accomplishments in their presidencies (very few, it is true).
With Carter, there is NOTHING good.
Thanks to the GOP for putting up the hapless Ford against him in 1976!
(And that raised up the hapless Dole in 1996.)
Doesn’t it just warm your heart to know that the few elections the Dems did win were given to them by the GOP?
It’s not for nothing that we call the two parties–the stupid party and the evil party.

Red Ryder on July 17, 2006 at 6:04 pm

Where to start? FDR was not the president he pretended to be, when he ran against Hoover. But he did some amazing things, including getting our country out of the Great Depression by involving us in a necessary war. His view of “The World Order” was correct, at the time. The wrong people were gaining power, and needed to be stopped. His biggest mistake was coddling Stalin, thereby creating the Cold War. “Tommy Wilson” must be Woodrow T Wilson. Get this straight, Wilson hated the Versailles Treaty, and its treatment of the Germans. He refused to be a part of it, and the USA only gave in after Wilson became gravely ill, and his wife took over making the foreign policy decisions of the country. It’s been widely snickered about that she was the “first woman president”.
The reason Ford lost was his pardoning of Nixon, his asking for amnesty for the Vietnam War draft dodgers, and the public’s overall view of his connections to the Nixon presidency..
Carter was clearly lost in his job as president.
His inability to make strong, decisive moves during the insurrection in Iran will always cloud his pages in the history book.
Luckily for the American public, Ronald Reagan came along just in time.
Unfortunately, the Republicans have not really acted in the best interests of the American public.
However, the bad news is: The Dems back in charge would be worse.
Sad….
Craig C
BTW I’m not a Dem, especially in foreign policy views

Craig C on July 17, 2006 at 9:37 pm

This is WW3 folks

Craig C on July 17, 2006 at 9:39 pm

Yes, I’d say you “tore him a brand new one.” Noticed how he had to slow you down at the end there. I guess you left him speechless. Why did he call you “Bama?” Whatever. BTW, I love your accent!

Eric on July 18, 2006 at 3:41 am

The Democrats picked Ford because he was a zero that anyone could beat, and “Mr. Anyone” did.
We are unfortunately stuck with Chris Matthews a carry over from the Carter Adminstration. I keep hoping his network realizes what his ratings are and drop him, but they appearently like his drivel.

Burt on July 18, 2006 at 8:25 am

I always thought that the well meaning but uber nebbish Jerry Ford was Nixon’s revenge.

Ripper on July 18, 2006 at 9:20 am

Good thread!
Craig C–
As to FDR and Tommy Wilson, let’s agree to disagree. I don’t want to start a whole big deal, but what exactly did WWII accomplish other than make the world safe for Euro Communism for 45 more years, and the Chinese version to this very day?
It’s one thing to “coddle” Stalin, as you put it, but what about all the proven Russian spies in his administration?
As to big time racist/socialist Tommy W–you seem to give him a pass for getting us into WWI in the first place. Boy, that war was sure important for the US, wasn’t it?
For someone who “hated Versailles” as you put it, you could fool me, considering that it was based largely on his 14 points, albeit with reparations put in by the Euros. Yes, it was harsh, and no doubt kindled WWII, but this still begs the question as to why we go into WWI, in the first place.
It always seems convenient to blame the failure of Versailles on his illness. I mean, the US was a total dictatorship at that time, right? Congress couldn’t do anything. After all, it was only a treaty, and congress is supposed to be involved in treaties.
For my money, he was just another failed liberal, now gussied up in the history books. Nowhere near as bad as FDR, but who knows what Tommy could have done with four terms?
I guess that he would have raised his income and inheritance taxes again…
Ripper–
If Nixon had wanted revenge, it would have been a first for the poor guy who seemed to spend his entire life looking for acceptance.
No, I’m no Nixon fan, but here was a supposed conservative who toadied favor with the libs and media and gave us–
wage and price controls
EPA
OSHA
de-valuing the dollar
affirmative action
etc etc

Red Ryder on July 18, 2006 at 11:31 am

If MSNBC cancelled people for low ratings they would have no shows!
As bad as Chris Matthews is, he has a long way to go to be as bad as Keith Olberman.
Jimmy Carter is definitely the worst president in my lifetime, and unbelievably has gotten even worse. He’s such a bitter little man.
BTW, great job as always, Debbie.

Jeff_W on July 18, 2006 at 11:34 am

Red Ryder
Richard E. Nixon (channeling Archie Bunker) was many things but he was defintely not a Conservative. He was in fact the last of the New Deal liberals.

Ripper on July 18, 2006 at 1:45 pm

After what Germany did to France in 1871 (Treaty of Frankfort taking away Alsace-Lorriane), Russia in 1918 (the brutal Treaty of Brest Litovsk whcih stripped Russia of 1/3rd of her population), and the Treaty of Bucharest with Rumania – they could cry me a river. They are the last nation on Earth that should have complained about harsh treaties. Versailles gave France back Alsace-Lorriane, Denmark got back Sschleswig-Holstein (taken from her by Germany in 1864), Russia got back most of what was tolen from her in 1918 and Poland became independent. Imperial Germany o fthe Hohenzollern’s last Kaiser (Wilhelm II) was totally evil – despite Pat Buchanan’s nostalgia for them.

Ripper on July 18, 2006 at 1:51 pm

Ripper–
Re Nixon–If you check the record, virtually every single one of Nixon’s liberal forays was done to curry favor. Obviously, the end result was the same, regardless of the motivation. I think he started out conservative, but gave in to “peer pressure.” Please understand that I am making no excuses for this loser. Just trying to understand what went wrong.
Re reparations–
All that you say is true, and there should be no sympahty for Germany in that era. Still, it did provide the perfect excuse for Adolf and company to get the ball rolling.
Re Buchanan–
He has become a tragic figure. He needs a time machine to get back to his perfect world of about 1954.
Again, here is a guy whose heart started out in the right place, but then went wrong.
BTW–
I call him Tommy Wilson, since that was his name. He took on his middle name as his first name after he finished college. He thought it sounded more dignified.
I keep calling him “Tommy” in mock tribute to Jimmy Carter. They would have gotten along together splendidly.

Red Ryder on July 18, 2006 at 2:20 pm

Red Ryder
I agree with you on all accounts except for your disdain for Woodrow Wilson.
Nixon I think was socially liberal by inclination. His rhetoric was conservative but in practice he was a liberal (domestically). Nixon was more interested in Foreign affairs then Domestic. He did not give a damn about obtaining a Republican majority in COngress. Funny how so many liberal Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republicans – Earl Warren, Harry Blackmun, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, John Paul Stevens, Sandra Day O’Connor.
Off topic – last year on one of my many trips to D.C. I visited the Woodrow Wilson house (near Embasssy Row). Quite interesting.

Ripper on July 18, 2006 at 3:04 pm

Jimmy Carter is a dangerous man. He is also a perv. Want proof? Here it is:
http://www.infowars.com/Images/bg/book/carter.jpg
Bohemian Grove is a plae where powerful men get together and not only make policy but in the past have wild orgies. Carter has aligned himself with the elite and can’t be trusted.

KOAJaps on July 18, 2006 at 6:00 pm

Debbie,
You did a good job rebutting the buffoonish “Dr” Minshall, but might want to fisk his background a bit if you are planning to debate him again. Here are a few observations:
1. Interpol does not employ agents (persons employed by a government agency and delegated certain police powers by the agency director [for example FBI or DEA Special Agents]). Interpol is more of a clearing house. It does not have typical police powers such as arrest and search. Its staff does include law enforcement officers from different countries on temporary assignment to facilitate information sharing.
2. Minshall touts his law enforcement experience but the only specific reference he makes seems to be a NJ PI license.
3. Minshall seems to claim to have been a Deputy US Marshall (a type of federal agent). Perhaps. I’d bet that if he was employed by the government it was in a corrections officer capacity.

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