“But, for Politico to utter the “sexual harassment” claim, the publication must have several very solid sources to back the allegation.”

Debbie, why is Politico more reliable than other sources of “news” regarding sexual harassment? When a woman (or a man) says she (or he) has been sexually harassed, we have no reason to believe her (or him). Unless we are a radical feminist, that is.

It’s hard to understand how this story is relevant to the repeal of DADT, given that DADT facilitates blackmail, as it makes disclosure of a gay orientation a useful threat.

S: You’re right on Politico. It isn’t a more credible source. Not at all the case. I just know that it’s a very timid source, and I will clarify that. There is no DADT in Congress, and yet this guy is resigning his seat over apparent gay sexual harassment. It shows that repealing DADT won’t end the possibility of blackmail. But it will erode the cohesiveness of the military unit, where straight men will be forced to share close quarters with openly gay men. DS

skzion on March 3, 2010 at 4:03 pm

Are you saying all gay men and women should be thrown out of the military? Right now, gay men and women are honorably serving in the military – including submarines.

Seems to me the military code of conduct could & should be used to ensure proper behavior.

sandy on March 3, 2010 at 4:23 pm

Israel allows gays to server openly and some nations allow women to serve on submarines, there’s even one naval sub commanded by a women.
Are there any reports coming from Israel and the other nations that show how bad it is due to gays serving openly? Why can’t we just follow Israel example?

Nak on March 3, 2010 at 4:27 pm

American culture has become so litigious in the past 20 years that there are so many people willing to sell the country down the drain in order to make a buck (and attain celebrity status for 1 week as well). ..as for the Israeli situation, you’re probably dealing with a different culture over there in that regard. Also, if the

Not Ovenready on March 3, 2010 at 5:17 pm

I am very uneasy about DADT. I realize that some gay individuals are very sanitary and hygienic, but the problem is that you never know which are which. I wouldn’t want a gay person to be involved in my food preparation or service any more than I would want an illegal alien to be involved. Of course not all gay people are unsanitary, and not all illegal aliens are unsanitary, but the incidence of disease among these groups is much higher than for the population as a whole. It’s why I won’t eat in restaurants in certain neighborhoods. You never know.

I also think there should be sanctions in the military against unadjusted persons serving food. We’ve all heard Jesse Jackson’s stories about ‘offended’ African Americans spitting into peoples’ food, or worse.

Little Al on March 3, 2010 at 7:16 pm

Uhhh….he’s not a closeted gay, no a closeted HOMOSEXUAL. The word is H-O-M-O-S-E-X-U-A-L!!! Please quit using gay.

Larry Sinclair came out and said he had sex with KING HUSSEIN OBAMA. Why is this story any different? You know when HOMOSEXUALS use blackmail it is nothing new. Where is Politico on this one?

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/fl-district-24-elections-florida-congressional-races-larry-sinclair-for-congress-truth-about-larry-sinclair-barack-obama-larry-sinclair-cocaine-sex-lies-murder/

Nak we are not Israel and we don’t have to follow their lead. We are America. As much as I respect Israel and want Israel to be sovereign and prosper, we don’t need to follow anyone’s lead.

CaliforniaScreaming on March 4, 2010 at 12:24 am

It’s not a case of being vulnerable to blackmail because you’re gay. It’s a case of being vulnerable to blackmail over charges of sexual harassment.

Miranda Rose Smith on March 4, 2010 at 2:04 am

Although STDs, especially the more serious ones, do weaken the immune system, making the person more susceptible to other, and more contagious diseases.

Little Al on March 4, 2010 at 5:20 am

Couldn’t Massa (D) and Larry Craig (R) get together in an airport restroom somewhere for some bipartisan bisexual bivouacing?

Sam Deakins on March 4, 2010 at 6:48 am

California, can you provide any documentation showing that allowing gays in the military disrupt unit cohesion or make the army any less effective? There are tons of nations to choose from and I don’t see any undergoing anarchy due to gays serving openly, and I assume God doesn’t mind since all these nations are still standing.

Nak on March 4, 2010 at 9:32 am

The analogy to DADT just doesn’t work. He’s resigning NOT because of blackmail, but apparently because he’s committed a CRIME, that of sexual harrassment. No one’s trying to blackmail him!

And as skzion points out, DADT only ENCOURAGES blackmail, while also encouraging men and women in uniform to lie about their sexual orientation…all the while defending our country with their lives. That is just plain WRONG.

R: We actually don’t know if he committed a crime or what happened. We don’t know the details. But it’s likely if he did harass a male staffer that he’s gay and could have been subject to blackmail. Just saying. That’s the point here. It does work. If you have a prominent general who is married with kids, he’s subject to blackmail for outing that he’s gay, and the same is the case with any soldier who is married with kids and doesn’t want them to know. Blackmail is still present even if we get rid of DADT. That won’t change a thing . . . except reduce cohesion of a military unit. DS

Robert on March 4, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Instead of making these claims can you show proof of loss of unit cohesion and effectivness from any other nation that allws gays to serve openly? Surely these selfish gays are ruining the armies of all those nations.

Nak on March 4, 2010 at 4:32 pm

Sorry, got home late & waiting all day to comment:

Yes, cancer, etc. does give rise to more infections. First though, there is a moral distinction between cancer, most autoimmune diseases, etc. and those weakened from STD’s. STD’s can be avoided, either by abstinence or by using proper precautions, and avoiding explicitly unhygienic practices. STD’s are brought on by people’s selfishness or lack of concern, consideration, or ability to follow clean, healthy practices.

Second, when I am at work and I have a contagious infection, duhhh, I stay home so as to not contaminate others. Hellcat, you are making a tacit admission that you don’t consider this proper behavior. The nerve of me, wanting to eat in a restaurant where sanitary practices are followed and sick and contagious food handlers stay home.

And yes, gays are a demographic group with a much higher incidence of STDs than the population as a whole. Cancer isn’t identified with a specific demographic group, even though some of the 100 or so cancers are more identified with one group than another. They aren’t brought on directly by behavior (leaving aside the effect of healthy lifestyle in lowering the risk of some, but not all cancers). Autoimmune diseases, there is a much, much more tangential relationship.

So I should stay at home? This method of argumentation is extremely weak. Kind of like if I don’t want terrorists to pump gas for me I should go to the Middle East, drill my own oil, refine it, etc., etc. Why not just discuss whether sick people should stay home?

Maybe if more sanitary practices were followed there would be less flu, less H1N1; I certainly know there would be less tuberculosis and less measles.

Little Al on March 4, 2010 at 8:23 pm

End DADT. Gay men *can* serve in the military, they just can’t be open about it. THAT is what opens it up to blackmail. If they are exposed, they are out of a job. and having to lie about yourself in front of your colleagues, I imagine, is probably worse for unit cohesion.

I am a gay man, I don’t have any diseases (so I can still cook your food!), and I don’t have the uncontrollable urge to jump every man I see. I don’t know why you peddle this nonsensical stereotype. I have a ton of straight guy friends (some of whom have served in the military) that have been comfortable in close quarters with me (whether in a gym locker room, in a hotel room on a trip, etc.) because they realize that being gay doesn’t make me a nymphomaniac who will rape them or make them feel uncomfortable because I have no self control.

And with ending DADT, you’re not going to get Richard Simmons or RuPaul joining up, but types like Mark Bingham (the 6’4″ hero who yelled “let’s roll” when he led the take down of the terrorists on United 93 on 9-11).

It’s a shame. I speak Persian (Farsi), Russian, and am learning Mandarin Chinese. I’d love to work for the military but I’d hate worrying every minute that some meathead will out me, sending me packing. At least if DADT ends, I can guarantee I won’t be prancing around in pink high heels (which seems to be a ridiculous concern from some), but that I can then tell that meathead to “F- Off” and get back to the work of defending this country.

Brad on March 4, 2010 at 9:52 pm

Consider that current U.S. health regulations prohibit men who have sex with men (MSM – aka “gays”) from donating blood. Studies conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration categorically confirm that if MSM were permitted to give blood, the general population would be placed at risk.
According to the FDA: “[‘Gay’ men] have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first-time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors.”
The FDA further warns: “[‘Gay’ men] also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion. For example, infection with the Hepatitis B virus is about 5-6 times more common, and Hepatitis C virus infections are about 2 times more common in [‘gay’ men] than in the general population.”
A 2007 CDC study further rocked the homosexual activist community, finding that, although “gay” men comprise only 1-to-2 percent of the population, they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.
Do the math: If “gays” are allowed to serve openly – as to appease leftists’ euphemistic demands for “tolerance” and “diversity” – how much more would soldiers in the field – where battlefield blood transfusions and frequent exposure to biohazards are commonplace – face pointless peril?

ScottyDog on March 4, 2010 at 11:30 pm

Again we have plenty of countries to choose from to see how gays in the military are ruining everything, instead of making rediculous claims go see if these other nations are falling apart due to gays serving openly.

Nak on March 5, 2010 at 8:24 am

Nak

Really, which countries are those?

ScottyDog on March 5, 2010 at 2:22 pm

For what it’s worth, a journalist from Eric Massa’s district wrote yesterday that he has known of stories about the congressman’s attraction to men for several years.
http://www.boblonsberry.com/writings.cfm?story=2823&go=4

ColeslawPatriot on March 5, 2010 at 2:49 pm

Look at that face on Massa. IT reeks “I have sugar in my pocket.” Why doesn’t he become Barney Frank’s roommate, and call it a night.

YECHHH!!!

Hymie Zoltsveis on March 5, 2010 at 11:01 pm

Those who seek to bring OPEN homosexuals into the miltary generally fall into TWO categories:

1–People who have long HATED—no, LOATHED—the US military, and want to weaken/destroy it —typically communists and muslims, and

2–Useful Idiots, as Stalin called them.

If the muslim, devil Hussein wants to REALLY decide whether or not to bring in more open homosexuals….quite simply.. POLL THE SOLDIERS…..do they want to serve alongside open homosexuals. Let the soldiers decide!!

IMHO, the real agenda behind bringing in OPEN homosexuals is to damage/weaken/destroy the military.

Hymie Zoltsveis on March 5, 2010 at 11:15 pm

If sweet feet Massa’s face isn’t yelling “I’ve got sugar in my pocket,” it certainly says “I am light in the loafers.”

Stop in and pay Barney’s Frank a visit.

Franks a Lot!

Hymie Zoltsveis on March 5, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Nak

Really, which countries are those?
ScottyDog
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Well these countries allow gays to serve openly, so I dont know why you cant do some research to see how much their military is in shambles due to the gays, wait…Israel is on this list? But their army is strong, how can that be?

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bermuda
Brazil
Canada
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Lithuania
Luxembourg
The Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Peru
Philippines
Romania
Russia
Slovenia
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
Uruguay

NAK on March 6, 2010 at 12:49 am