Right on point here, DS! Sound effort! The air smells fresh!

chuck poindexter on February 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm

I agree with Debbie. I can’t stand going into anyplace where the servers speak so bad English that you have to point on the menu what you want. City wide sweeps of restaurants by ICE should be commonplace. Deport all of the illegal mexicans who are invading our country to free up jobs that Americans just won’t do.

Just a personnal experience with these mexicans that don’t speak English. One day where I work, there was a sign on the janitor’s closet that was written solely in spanish. I used a large Sharpie, crossed out all of the spanish and wrote “This is the U.S. We speak English here. Learn the language”. By the end of the day, the sign was gone and another sign never appeared again.

Jarhead on February 26, 2010 at 1:11 pm

Good for you Jarhead – more people should do the same – ALWAYS carry a sharpie!!!

BIG IRISH on February 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm

If you read the history of “hispanics”, basically they are a cross between arabs, who conquered half of Spain, Frankish Catholics and whatever they mated with in South America/Mexico.

They have a very thin veneer of Christianity: islam appeals more to their ancient Aztec/Inca blood-worshipping cults.

J: Please lay off the anti-Hispanic rhetoric. I am not anti-Hispanic. And, in fact, many Hispanics are very religious Catholics. The problem here is illegal aliens and those who are here legally but refuse to learn and speak English. There are plenty of Hispanics who are legal or were born here and do speak English. The issue here is those–of any nationality–who do not fit this description. You are correct, however, that there is a disturbing trend of Hispanics converting to Islam. Thanks, DS

juniper on February 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Thomas Sowell describes the “prima face” tactic in his “Intellectuals and Society”. The presumption is that those from the defined “identity groups” should be randomly and equitably distributed. So the fact that whites are out front while Hispanics are working in the back is taken as “prima face” evidence of discrimination. But it’s no such thing, and Debbie’s questions show there can be quite valid reasons why one doesn’t encounter “equal outcomes”.

Raymond in DC on February 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

I fear the restaurant may be forced to settle, for reasons other than what is usually involved in a shakedown.

If the restaurant is hiring illegals, that might come out in the story and result in some huge fines. The restaurant would be forced to settle just to keep things quiet.

I_AM_ME on February 26, 2010 at 2:18 pm

Third question: How many of the Hispanic workers actually wash their hand after using the Bathroom and before they start preparing the salads?

Tim on February 26, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Every restaurant is a Mexican restaurant. They just are spicing it differently here. Hispanics (even illegals) are seving a valuable role in taking jobs that most Americans won’t. I think the real issue is how to treat them humanely and give them the same opportunities at the American dream that our ancestors had. So far, I think we’re doing a pretty good job of it.

Kaiser Sozay on February 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

Yeah, that “jobs nobody wants” is pure BS. All of the stuff I did as a teenager is now held by illegal Mexicans, e.g., dishwasher, fast food worker and lawn mower. Places that offer above-average wages in these types of positions reap the benefits in productivity, such as In-and-Out Burger here in California that prominently displays ads for workers on their door touting a $10/hr. starting pay. Not only is In-and-Out superior in every way, but their prices are still competitive and there’s nary an adult Mexican in sight working in many of their restaurants. In fact, I’ve never seen one in the In-and-Outs I have visited in the past 30 years. That’s not bigotry, I’m just stating fact.

DS_ROCKS! on February 26, 2010 at 3:40 pm

Tim – I hope you were kidding. You think that being hispanic equates with not washing your hands after you use the bathroom? You do realize that they have soap, and running water in Mexico? Also, you will be shocked to realize this, but they even wear shoes, and many of them favor jeans and tee shirts over the traditional loincloth.

hellcat on February 26, 2010 at 3:46 pm

Well, I think that maybe the aims of the study should be implemented, and more Hispanics should work in front, rather than in back.

My reasons are a little different from those of the study though. Illegal aliens carry all kinds of diseases; illnesses that we thought were eliminated are now making comebacks. The illegals may be less likely to infect us if they are carrying plates of food rather than preparing it.

Semi-facetious; of course I agree that the study is garbage, and designed just as a shakedown.

Sometimes I think that the best thing in talk radio is the commentaries in Philadelphia by Joey Vento who makes his steakhouse customers speak English. He is plain-spoken and makes a lot of sense. One gem; he was talking with Sen. Specter who told him he shouldn’t use the term ‘illegal alien’; he should say ‘undocumented worker’.

Joey told Sen. Specter, “Senator, that is like calling a drug pusher an unlicensed pharmacist!”

Little Al on February 26, 2010 at 9:18 pm

In a perverted way these restaurants deserve what they get. I am against illegal immigration. They hired illegals to do their “dirty” work and now are getting bit back. Just think they could never have hired illegal aliens and could never have been accused of shoving them in the back of the kitchen. The restaurants should have been put out of business years ago by ICE and now they will be shaken down. So no sympathy for restaurants. Debbie you are right, your questions are not bigoted you want the letter of law followed. Consider this many restaurants such as Hooter’s in Southern California or other mainstream restaurants or hotels like the Hilton will hire illegal aliens en masse. Will they now have to hire illegal alien Hooter’s waitresses or illegal aliens hostesses that can’t speak proper English? Not to say that Hispanics can’t be bilingual. Many of the bank tellers in California that I have run into are bilingual.

Liberals have destroyed immigration in this nation as an asset to a liability. Immigration used to be legal and all immigrants assimilated. Every immigrant class came to America wanting just an opportunity and that was it. They would assimilate to become good Americans. In the last 40 years immigrants are told not to assimilate and become victims. Now they are all Democrats. Used to be a lot immigrants would become Republicans as well because they brought conservative values.

Tim and Little Al if you are so concerned about Hispanics (which I am, no I am not illegal) not washing their hands, how about you pick your own vegetables and make your own salad? And yes, I did pick fruits and vegetables when I was a kid. My father made me a man. He was a legal immigrant under the bracero program and made sure I knew how to do physical work. I have worked in fields, cut down trees, worked as a dishwasher, bussed tables and construction sites. I did graduate college too. What a concept. No work would ever be beneath me to take care of the ones I love and care about. My father taught me to love and respect this country and never ask people for sh*t when you can do it yourself.

CaliforniaScreaming on February 27, 2010 at 1:36 am

A friend of mine emigrated here from the Dominican Republic. He told me that he was shocked at how poor most Americans are and how difficult it was to make a decent living. What he and his friends knew of America before coming here came from television shows like Dallas and from old copies of magazines like Good Housekeeping. Most of his friends went back home.

The Terrorist's Advocate on February 27, 2010 at 8:34 am

Oscar Avila should be ashamed to have published his article in the Chicago Tribune without researching Restaurant Opportunities Center’s study. Restaurant Opportunities Center and Working Hands Legal Clinics give illegal immigrants the tools necessary to stay in this country and sue U.S. Citizens. Working Hands legal clinic also allows illegals to stay on the streets after commiting horrific crimes. The person on the front page of the Tribune article is named Victor Vega. If you use http://www.criminalsearches.com, you will see he has been convicted of violent crimes, and alcohol related crimes. I am guessing the man is illegal. How is he not in jail?

Trader Rob on February 27, 2010 at 9:38 am

“work that white won’t do.”
Unfortunately this is a real thing, thanks to various reasons it’s harder and harder to get younger folks who would start in the back doing crap jobs and work up to do those jobs. More and more people think that they should get good cherry jobs right out of the gate. If your really worried about illegal immigration teach your kids about starting at the bottom and working up.
Pete

Pete Bone on February 27, 2010 at 1:38 pm

California Screaming, are you sure that it is me that you are talking about having sympathy for illegals? Please read my comments again.

Little Al on February 27, 2010 at 5:11 pm

And CS, I do not have to go pick my own vegetables in order to want our laws to be followed, including immigration laws. If I don’t like Muslims owning gas stationsand funneling the money to Mideast terrorists, should I travel to the oil fields every week and get oil, refine it so I can have my own gas?

The risk of disease from illegal aliens is established; many illegals don’t have very good health practices, and it is a matter of record that diseases that we thought were extinct in this country are coming back. And a silly argument about going to the fields to pick my own food doesn’t change that fact.

Little Al on February 27, 2010 at 7:26 pm

This is a test, it is only a test:

Legal or illegal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br7DsPbM0g8

wonder what restaurant he works in the back of?

ender on February 27, 2010 at 9:02 pm

A1, I said, ‘So no sympathy for restaurants’. I have no sympathy for restaurants who hired illegals and are now being burned by illegal alien activists. If they would have followed the law in the first place then this absurdity of the lawsuits would have never occurred. Why should I feel bad for these restaurants? They are reaping what they sowed.

Again if you don’t feel comfortable at the places where you eat with the people they hire don’t eat there. Yes they shouldn’t be there in the first place. Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama have all allowed unlimited illegal immigration. If you can’t solve the nation’s problem then take the personal initiative to stop frequenting or consuming those products you feel are not to your standards. I don’t eat at taco trucks anymore(which I love) because they skirt all the laws. They ruin other established food businesses and run down neighborhoods. Established business cant compete with some truck that doesn’t have to pay taxes, electricity or rent. I have had this conversation with many people about illegal aliens. They complain that they want illegals to be this or that. Well hell, boycott the companies that employ them. They are the ones with the power. Make a website of business that e-verify their employees and eat there. It could save a lot of people a lot of grief. Businesses will respond to lost customers.

CaliforniaScreaming on February 28, 2010 at 12:11 am

Trader Rob’s comment RE “Victor Vega” barely scratched the surface of the issue of people sneaking into this country. Such a common name will surely give results because there are probably hundreds of people who use the name “Victor Vega” when it suits them. Sadly, when people sneak into our country we have no way of knowing what they have done prior to coming here. Moreover, unless biographical data are collected, Victor Vega may be off the hook even if he commits crimes here! One day, I’m sure his name is “Victor Vega” while the next it’s “Victor Saul Vega” and the day after that it’s “Saul Victor Vega”, so on, and so forth. Meanwhile, people will vouch for this guy because he’s doing a dirty job in someone’s opinion. It should be no surprise then that there are many who favor to subvert the truth with regard to the abuses of our immigration system; that includes you G-man types who posted here previously with your disingenuous (MALFEASANCE) lies.

nadie on February 28, 2010 at 1:03 am

Any nation that can’t control its borders, won’t be a nation for long.

Truth on February 28, 2010 at 7:13 am

DS, many Central and South Americans are also converting to Islam.

Used to work there.

Rick013 on February 28, 2010 at 10:12 am