Reason for the delay: The boyz in da hood, yestiddy, wuz buzy fixin’ to celebrate Eid ul-Fitr today…once the Hatfield-McCoy Imams finally decided what day it falls on that is….

Zoyadog on October 12, 2007 at 6:06 pm

I was intially disappointed, and said so, that Ann chose to appear on Donny the Douche’s show (I figure she’s already got a far larger public than he does…so why help him?) and managed to say something so easily parsed and perverted.
Now I presume he invited her to come on and she, no coward, agreed. More power to her. I also recall some Christian acquantances refering to themselves as “Israelites”…which always struck me weird since I am not Christian, Jewish, or anything else…although sometimes accused of being a Druid. Ann’s remarks actually clarify that universal “Israelite” thing of theirs for me….I think. No matter, I’d sooner turn my back in trust to any Jew or Christain before any Muslim…and in the end, that’s all that matters to me.

Zoyadog on October 12, 2007 at 6:44 pm

I’ve had enough of this garbage and I think it’s high time we gave them a taste of their own medicine.
I say it’s time to start picketing and protesting CAIR, ADC, MSA, and every other pro-jihadist pressure group. We’ll need to get a group of courageous people in every city and town where these organizations conduct meetings, stage events, and/or own property. We’ll picket them on a regular basis and make sure that the local media know that we’ll be there.
Interested? Leave a message at http://1389blog.com/about/contact-us/

1389 on October 13, 2007 at 11:31 am

“The hypocrisy is so thick you could behead it with an Islamic sword…
What’s next–Bill Clinton condemning alleged adulterers?”
Debbie, though the absurdity is measureless–your use of words articulates it well! No doubt Hamad’s partner in crime, Gregg Krupa, will headline this tripe at the newsistan with all sanctimony.
We saw this same thing with Hamad commenting on the Bailey bribery corruption bust–(in the newsistan compliments of Krupa and co). The standard play–>Accuse your enemy or a distracting focal point of the very thing you do best. OJ searching for the real murderer, strikes again. uhuh.
It’s amazing what is so obvious when you pay attention.

BB on October 13, 2007 at 11:45 am

I hate all religion. I hate them all but I love the Jews. Why? Because they treated my people during WW2 a lot better than the goddamn Christians during the war. The 522nd helped liberate Dauchau and guess what? The Jews loved the Japanese Americans. When the soldiers returned back to the United States, the Christians called my people Japs…we were not the enemy.
“In describing the connections between Christian and Jewish beliefs, Ann said that Jews believe in the Old Testament, but Christians believe in that AND the New Testament. Jews need to be “perfected,” she said. Reading the full script (also read Omri Ceren/Mere Rhetoric’s and Allah Pundit’s excellent comments @ Hot Air), it’s abundantly clear what she was talking about. To wit: That we, as Jews, don’t accept the full Christian Bible, and therefore, it’s the Christian belief that we need to be fully accepting of it. She said “That is what we [Christians] believe we are–perfected Jews.”
I don’t want the Jews to believe in the Christianity Ann believes in. Her Christianity put my people in prison and they were DEMOCRATS TOO!!! So to defend her statement means that Jews are inhuman and because my people associated and rescued the Jews, we too are imperfect. I am an athiest and Coulter just gives me proof why I am an athiest. Yes Jesus was a Jew and a cool one too but I don’t remember him saying that the Roman’s religion was better. Hell they crucified him too. So I have no respect for a loudmouth wannabe conservative half-man who should be at home taking care of her man and not speak up…like a good conservative Christian.

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 1:19 pm

Debbie,
Even though she’s your friend, I’m sorry to say that Ann Coulter kind of rubs me the wrong way when she speaks. Her attempts at humor (though they are funny) skirt around the real issues. I’m not sure yet how I feel about those remarks but I believe she should come out and clarify them instead of letting other people – like yourself – tell us what she really meant. It’s especially important now since CAIR has attacked her for them.

TeachESL on October 13, 2007 at 1:34 pm

TeachESL, you got that right! Women according to Ann’s religion demands that women are to: Clean the house, mop the floor, wash the windows, feed her husband, scrub the toilet, water the garden, take care of the kid(s), feed the husband, make his meals, have sex when he wants, never question any man, and apparently the religious right agrees:
http://swiftreport.blogs.com/coalition_letter2.pdf
I’m an athiest so I couldn’t care less what the extremist right says, but if Coulter follows their values and criticizes the left for being progressive, then her hypocracy is a pile of dog poo and she has no right whatsoewever as a Christian to comment…now as a liberal, she does…you think she really is a Christian? If that’s what a Christian is, I am GODDAMN glad that I am one.

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 2:17 pm

An athiest that is

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 2:18 pm

KOAJaps, you are really one confused person! You say that you hate all religions, but you love the Jews. Are you aware that Judaism is a religion? Your rant was just about incoherent. Maybe you should take a Valium and cool off before you try to write; it might improve your ability to express yourself.
It might help KOAJaps and others to remember that neither Ann Coulter, the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, nor any other individual speaks for all of Christianity, just as no single individual speaks for all of any other religion. So if you don’t like what some one person says, it is still an error to project that onto the entire religion, thinking that this one person speaks for all.

Dr. D on October 13, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Dr. D if it weren’t for the loving kindness of the Europeans who happened to be Jewish who were placed in the concentration camps, I would hate Judaism too. But it was Christians that put my people in prison camps too in the United States. Oh and if you remember your history, it was Christians who supported Adolph Hitler: IBM, Prescott Bush and so on. In the name of religion, people were massacred and that’s why I’m an athiest. Like the Jews, we were fucked by the Christians.
As for Ann, she has every right to speak her mind. Yet she claims to be a Christian and her sect of Christianity prohibts her to be in the position she is in today.
As for the valium? I’ll take one…to sell. I can make $5 off a skidrow bum

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 3:35 pm

BTW, living proof the Christians supported Hitler
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
Dayam!

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 3:42 pm

Coulter said, “Our testament is a continuation of your testament. We do think Jews go to Heaven, but we consider ourselves perfected Jews. This should not be offensive at all!”
If she’s going to heaven, can I go straight to Hell please?

KOAJaps on October 13, 2007 at 3:46 pm

Schussel writes: “ADC calling Ann Coulter an Anti-Semite? Pot. Kettle. Blackety-BLACK.”
I agree with you completely, Debbie. The ADC calling Coulter an anti-Semite is indeed a case of the pot calling the kettle black (or “blackety-BLACK,” as you put it in the same junior-highese that compels an apparent grown up to refer to herself as “Debbie” — no doubt with a smiley face dotting the “i”).
But my joy that you have finally opened your eyes to the true nature of your bulemic drinking buddy is dampened somewhat by my realization that you are more probably just too stupid to realize that saying “ADC calling Ann Coulter an Anti-Semite? Pot. Kettle. Blackety-BLACK” is saying that you think Ann Coulter is an anti-Semite. Given your career as a member — along with Medved, Horowitz, et. al. — of the GOP’s Judenrat (or perhaps more accurately, their Sondercommando), that would be too much to hope for.
You see, Debbie, “the pot calling the kettle black” is supposed to be ironic, since the pot is presumably every bit as black as the… oh to hell with it. If someone else wants to explain this to the bimbo, go ahead. God help me if I don’t have more important things to do.

richter on October 13, 2007 at 4:38 pm

Richter, unless the pot is black, but the kettle is stainless steel . . . In which case, it would be an example of projection.

AmericanJewess on October 13, 2007 at 5:08 pm

Now THAT’S funny, AmericanJewess — and unlike what Debbie writes, INTENTIONALLY funny… though I feel pretty confident in assuming that the “pot/kettle/black” proverb predates such Freudianisms as “projection” (or for that matter stainless steel).

richter on October 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm

NO, not all Christians supported Nazism! I am an Orthodox Christian Serbian-American, and I can tell you for sure that the Serbian people, both in Serbia and elsewhere, fought valiantly against the Nazis.
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1044
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=955
Oh, and by the way, the Muslims were very much on the side of the Nazis in the Second World War, and were not only participants in, but also instigators of, the horrors of the Holocaust.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/recruited.html
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/bakera.htm
http://www.bankingonbaghdad.com/archive/hnn20041018Farhud/7773.html

1389 on October 13, 2007 at 8:38 pm

Oh, thats a riot. An islamic terrorist funding organization accuses Ann Coulter for anti-semetism. Since when did CAIR decided to wake up and become friends of the jews? If you want to see blatant anti-semetism, I suggest you log on to memritv.org. The taliban is not exactly the jew’s best friend. Why won’t the brave Tom Deutch challenge Ibrahim Hooper or any Islamic leaders on his show? Because like most liberals, he is a self-hating xenophobic pompous coward.He has more of a contempt towards fundemental Christianity and Orthodox Judiasm than he does for radical Islam. At least Ann Coulter wasn’t inciting violence in her comments nor was she threatening Deutch’s life for disagreeing with her. Though she was being a bit foolish for making that statement on air but for those who attack her for the sake of demeaning conservatives are just manifesting the bigotry they accuse her of.

Jew Chick on October 13, 2007 at 8:44 pm

Jew Chick frothes: “At least Ann Coulter wasn’t inciting violence in her comments.”
I guess Ann was just off her game. As we see in the following Coulter quotes, envisioning violence against those with whom she disagrees is Ann’s stock in trade:
“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee.”
“In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he [Bill Clinton] “did it,” even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate.”
“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too.”
“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.”
Measured against statements such as these, I suppose a little boiler plate anti-Semitism shouldn’t come as much of a shock.
By the way, notice that the essence of Debbie’s defense of Fraulein Coulter isn’t “Ann Coulter is not a religious bigot” but rather “Ann Coulter is no more of a religious bigot than I am.” Somehow I find this less than reassuring.

richter on October 14, 2007 at 12:29 am

Here’s another article about the Nazi/Islam nexus:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/10/naziislam-nexus.html

1389 on October 14, 2007 at 12:48 am

Jew Chick further rants: “Why won’t the brave Tom Deutch challenge Ibrahim Hooper or any Islamic leaders on his show? Because like most liberals, he is a self-hating xenophobic pompous coward.”
Well, that’s one possible reason. The other might be that “Tom Deutch,” whoever he is, does not have a show. The gentlemen who gave airtime to Ann Coulter is named “Donny Deutsch.” This you could have arduously researched by… um… reading Debbie’s post above, in which Donny Deutsch’s name appears. Of course, if you can’t bring yourself to actually read the thoughts of Little Debbie, no one will think the less of you.
By the way, here is a Little Debbie product that neatly sums up her entire output:
http://www.littledebbie.com/products/NuttyBarSingles.asp

richter on October 14, 2007 at 12:50 am

Richter:
She really said all those things? That’s just as bad as the Leftist rants!
Dr. D:
There is the Jewish people and there is Judaism. They are not necessarily the same. There are Jews who don’t practice Judaism at all! But they are Jews nonetheless. For example, Elvis Presley’s mother’s mother was a Jew so that makes him a Jew, too!!

TeachESL on October 14, 2007 at 3:57 am

In response to my list of the wit, wisdom, and death threats of Ann Coulter, TeachESL writes:
“She really said all those things? That’s just as bad as the Leftist rants!”
Yes, TeachESL, she really did say those things — and so often that it took me all of a minute or two to google them. As for them being “as bad as the Leftist rants,” well, yes, I’m sure you can find similar sentiments among some on the left — but they are very minor players, whereas Coulter is a major figure on the American right, constantly on television and radio and a frequent, honored guest at conservative events, where sentiments such as those above are not denounced but cheered and applauded (or as Schlussel does with Ann’s obvious anti-Semitism, “explained” away). You can easily prove me wrong, of course — Google the name of any prominent leftist or liberal and come up with even four quotes (there are many more in Ann’s case, but I felt four was enough to get the flavor of her odious oeuvre) in which rightwingers are threatened with violence or death. I warn you in advance, this will be a major waste of your time — you will find nothing.

richter on October 14, 2007 at 8:32 am

*Yes, TeachESL, she really did say those things — and so often that it took me all of a minute or two to google them.*
Richter and TeachESL,
Oh, horrors, she made jokes! She actually said those things! Ann Coulter has written a lot about liberal men being very effeminate and womanish, and judging from your emotional outrage and bitchy backbiting about Ann Coulter JOKES I would say she is quite right.
Liberals, like you two, cannot comprehend the difference between jokes like “We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee” and REAL threats such as Muslims living to assassinate infidels.
It is not surprising that “men” who have weak little girl outrage over JOKES have weak little girl appeasement reactions to Muslims, such as wanting to withdraw immediately from Iraq, never wanting to militarily engage Muslims, and wanting to give Muslims special privileges so as to not offend them.

Gabe on October 14, 2007 at 10:40 am

Gabe,
Why would you jump to conclusions about my political stand? I have read various liberal comments concerning Bush and am appalled! I am equally appalled at some of the ‘cracks’ that Ann Coulter has made. Just because she is on the right – as I am – doesn’t mean I have to like her!

TeachESL on October 14, 2007 at 1:06 pm

Predictably, one of Ann Coulter’s little boys (today it’s something called Gabe) steps forward to clean Ann’s litter box with the usual defense — “It’s a joke!” The answers to this cowardly evasion are several and obvious:
1. Since when is hate speech acceptable when delivered in the form of a joke? The suggestion that a Supreme Court Justice should be assassinated isn’t less vile because some group of idiots thinks tossing in a French word makes it hilarious.
2. Just what IS funny about the above Coulter quotes? Go ahead, Gabe, and explain to the rest of us the hilarity of, say, talking about bombing the hometown of the New York Times. That actually happened here on 9/11, and trust me, none of us were laughing.
3. Here’s a simple one — if any prominent commentator openly talked about murdering conservatives with the frequency and venom that Coulter talks about murdering liberals, would Gabe and like-winded right-wingers accept “It’s a joke!” as an explanation? That’s a rhetorical question, of course.
4. Finally — and this is the real point — Coulters “jokes” are in fact not jokes at all, nor are they intended to be. And Gabe, you know full well that the constant imagery of the violent murder of her opponents in Ann Coulter’s words is meant with deadly seriousness. That’s why I refer to your defense of her as “cowardly evasion.” The “joke” excuse is merely a fallback position for Ann and her sycophants to dodge the inevitable criticism that comes with promoting political violence and assassination in a democratic society. I suppose the fact that Coulter doesn’t have the guts to stand by her own words is almost heartening in a way — it shows that even she realizes how repellent they are to the vast majority of Americans who believe in the America of Thomas Jefferson, not the American of Timothy McVeigh.
As for your raging against Islamic terrorism, that might be a tad more convincing if you didn’t embrace the pro-terrorist rhetoric of Ann Coulter — after all, change “Allah” to “God” and “infidel” to “liberal,” and you and Ann and murderers of 9/11 pretty much see eye to eye.

richter on October 14, 2007 at 1:07 pm

TeachESL, your response to Gabe is admirable — and a worthy reminder to all that Coulter does NOT speak for all conservatives. Indeed, in some ways her video venom does greater harm to conservatives than to liberals.

richter on October 14, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Well, while these groups calling Ann Coulter an Antisemite is sort of like Al Sharpton calling someone a racist I had a few days to think about this and I have to say I don’t aprove the comments she made and I do think it is disturbing and I think we should expect more of her then to make comments like this. I agree with Michael Savage on this. Dennis Prager said while he doesn’t think it is antisemite he disagrees with this theology. I also heard Ann on on Steve Malzberg and she is hiding behind someone’s theology. I don’t respect Jews who do this either as there are many different opinions in Orthodoxy on some issues and to hide behind someone is cowardly. In fact a Rabbi had a political party in Israel that was banned that used to do this kind of thing when they said something that was very offensive they would claim they were only following the Torah. Uh-huh. Furthermore, here was a discussion with Ann from the JEwish Press in which when it came to starting a Palistianian state she was very pragmatic and claimed “AMERICAN VALUES”. I think AN AMERICAN VALUE IS NOT TO THINK ONLY YOUR RELIGION IS GOOD. She did support fighting the terrorist but she didn’t say well the bible says it is Jewish land and therefore no palestinian state.
Ann Coulter on Democrats, Palestinians, Israel and Iran
By Avraham Shmuel Lewin
JewishPress.com | Monday, April 16, 2007
Q.Whatís your view on the creation of a Palestinian state?
A. My American values support the creation of a Palestinian state in the abstract, but are against the creation of another Taliban. So there would have to be an assurance that such a state would be gelded militarily. The up side: at least weíd have a specific country to attack.
Q. What about those who say that putting pressure on Israel would bring peace to the Middle East?
A. Oh, sure ñ making concessions to the Arabs has never, ever worked in the past, so why not try it again?
So she was very pragmatic here and yeah she supports Israel again the terrorist but that doesn’t make this acceptable for someone who must have contact with Jews gtowing up in COnneticut. As a Jew I don’t agree with every Rabbinic commentary and some commentary controdict other sources because I have been out there in the real world and Rabbi’s while I agree in many situations are not G-d.
Finally, in terms of this guy being a practicing Jew he has an unknown show so you don’t know why he is doing this show on Saturday. I hate to say this I have to work on Saturday during certain parts of the year and when I was unemploymed the Orthodox community and the Rabbi especially were so mean to me I can’t trust them.
Orthodox Judaism just like Orthodox christianity has become overly feminized. There was an article in the ladies against feminism site that the SOuthern Baptists are concerned about the fact that less men attend church. THis is not some liberal church. Overall 61% of people who attend church are female although it is about 51% population is female. I know in Orthodox Judaism it is a big problem. The Orthodox Rabbi’s get money from these liberal groups that push feminism and they are afraid to help Jewish men in any way which makes it hard for men to be completely religious. I’m not a doctor or lawyer. I don’t make the kind of money that I have a lot of options and I have to work on Saturday during certain parts of the year with what I do now. I once called an Orthodox Jewish organization about this and they were like in certain situation they said they can’t help you.
So bottom line I think the wimps are the one’s that excuse this and have such a low standard for her and after the fact she continues to claim it was acceptable. I understand some Jews that think they should live in Israel so they don’t think about this. But anyone who agrees in any with Judaism or he is not by Jewish Law Jewish but has Jewish relatives in unevolved because he agrees with aspect of Judaism. At some point Christianity can’t be promoting this and I certainlly don’t think many agree with Ann on this. We should expect more from a women that has a law degree and lived in Connecticut and must have had contact with other Jews.

adam6275 on October 14, 2007 at 1:19 pm

Richter, if I may barge in here — I don’t think the point is about defending Ann’s lack of decorum or even her “bigotry,” but rather, whether she displayed antisemitism in her specific and recent remarks about Christianity and Judaism. Ann is what she is — you’ve got plenty of rude, inflammatory, bloviating people on the left, do you not?
I, personally, do not defend Ann’s speech. I happen to enjoy her SOMETIMES, but I also realize that she has lost credibility because of her behavior. Early on, she made a choice about the kind of public persona she wanted to present. She’s an entertainer, and no matter how smart she is (and she is smart) she’s lost out on being regarded as a serious political commentator. So much for that.
But what DOES ANGER ME, is the way in which the media picks up on every little thing she says and makes a story out of it, all the while ignoring wholesale the kinds of vile, insulting remarks that are made by leftist commentators all the time. Bush is an idiot? Cheney should die? Republicans are evil? These are nasty name calling episodes too, but I don’t see the media covering it, much less chastising anyone. Republicans are more likely to reign in their bad boys and girls than the Democrats are (and I say that as a registered Democrat, by the way). Remember Whoopie Goldberg and her obscene “bush” jokes? What kind of way is that for a public figure to speak about the President of the United States? Senator Daschiell called President Bush a moron.
This is not okay. I’m sorry, but, I have a hard time, a really REALLY hard time, getting worked up over Ann’s sassy mouth. I would like to see both sides work extra hard at restoring dignity and decorum to public discourse.

AmericanJewess on October 14, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Now that all the forensics and semantics are done, let’s distill it: Who would you be able to trust to follow trough on a promise, Ann Coulter or Donny the Douche? If you picked the latter, RIP.

Zoyadog on October 14, 2007 at 6:29 pm

American Jewess writes: “you’ve got plenty of rude, inflammatory, bloviating people on the left, do you not?”
You bet. But being rude, inflammatory, and bloviating is on a totally different level of rhetoric than constantly calling for the assassination of those with whom you disagree. You can find all sorts of insulting, vulgar, and downright dumb invective hurled across the political divide from both sides — but Coulter’s constant deployment of threats of physical violence and murder are something far more serious than that. Add in similar comments from Glenn Beck (“I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out — is this wrong?”) and O’Reilly (“If I could strangle these people and not go to hell and get executed, I would”), and I just don’t see how you can say that “Republicans are more likely to reign in their bad boys and girls than the Democrats are.”
But as I say, it is easy to prove me wrong. I googled the above quotes very quickly — if Democrats as prominent as Coulter are also talking of murdering their opponents, it should be easy enough for you to produce examples of this.
American Jewess also writes: “But what DOES ANGER ME, is the way in which the media picks up on every little thing she says and makes a story out of it.”
C’mon, AJ — Coulter WANTS the media to pick up everything she says and make a story out of it. She makes her living pedaling calls for the beating and murder of liberals — and what does it say about much of the American Right that they are an eager audience for it?

richter on October 14, 2007 at 7:21 pm

I did see the video and it isn’t quite as bad but it shows a very unsophisticated view. Was he sincere? Doesn’t seem like it although I can’t know for sure so it could be what I said above is a little off as I see he supported mixed marriges which doesn’t suggest a religious Jew of any kind.
I know Christian groups that support Israel and Judea and Sameria like CHristain Friends of Jewish Communities, and other groups that have respect for Jews far greater then this and recognize some of their laws come from the Jewish Bible and sometimes admit that they don’t know all the answers about Jews and have said so. For Ann well you have laws and we don’t that means that Ann is a lawless person. The founders of this country George Washington seemed to have a legimate respect of Jews that wasn’t condesending like this. The think she said about Falwell is that really true. Falwell did believe that only Christians would go to heaven. He did support moral issues like homosexuality (which I think are laws) and supported Israel but what Ann is saying here I don’t think is true as Falwell did believe you had to be a Christian to go to heaven. Michael Savage did interview Falwell and he told him that in that regard he doesn’t agree with him.
It is sad that the word ANTISEMITE is such a loaded word as obviously not every contempt for Jews is at the same level.

adam6275 on October 14, 2007 at 11:12 pm

NO, not all Christians supported Nazism! I am an Orthodox Christian Serbian-American, and I can tell you for sure that the Serbian people, both in Serbia and elsewhere, fought valiantly against the Nazis.
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1044
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=955
Oh, and by the way, the Muslims were very much on the side of the Nazis in the Second World War, and were not only participants in, but also instigators of, the horrors of the Holocaust.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/recruited.html
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/bakera.htm
http://www.bankingonbaghdad.com/archive/hnn20041018Farhud/7773.html
Posted by: 1389 at October 13, 2007 08:38 PM
Never said all, there are and were progressive Christians who were against Nazism. But religious leaders saluting Hitler? Boy that’s nice. So w2hyy support any religion that promoted the reich? Hell even Nixon supported the Nazis and hated Jews. And if you dig really deep and this isn’t conspiracy theory. groups like the Bilderberg, CFR, U.N. the Republican party, the DLC and other elite parties and religion too supported Hitler. The members of Yale’s Skull and Bones support Nazi: You know, Bush, et al, Kerry? And guess who attended Bilderberg? The Bush Crime Family and the Clinton Crime Family (another organization that supports the Nazis) And the church. See why i’m an athiest but ONLY love one religion and that’s Judaism? They are the chosen because they were treated like crap from Christians and Muslims. Hey dummy, I am not saying ALL Christian and Muslims but yes, ther were a few (several thousands) and not all Republicans were supporters of the Nazi, except for a few (like our current president and his family?).

KOAJaps on October 14, 2007 at 11:57 pm

But Jew Chick, Ann Coulter is a Christian. or at least them rightry Fundamentalists. And according to the righties Fundioes, she is committing a sin:
http://swiftreport.blogs.com/coalition_letter2.pdf
This is what that old hag with an adam’s apple believes in. OK, she isn’t a man, but she’s still a woman disobeying her religion

KOAJaps on October 15, 2007 at 12:00 am

Coulter may not hate Jews but she’s a twit and a liar to boot. She said even [Jerry] Falwell believed Jews were going to heaven: Falwell believed that Jews and anyone else who didn’t accept Jesus Christ, the messiah, as their savior would go to hell.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/13819/hagee-falwell-deny-endorsing-dual-covenant
[Falwell, meanwhile, posted a statement on his website to the effect that he believes ìall people – Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Jews, Muslims, etc.î must accept Jesus in order to enter heaven.’]
1389 posted:
[Oh, and by the way, the Muslims were very much on the side of the Nazis in the Second World War, and were not only participants in, but also instigators of, the horrors of the Holocaust.]
The Muslims?!?! All Muslims?!?!? I think you got so much conservative Christian propaganda stuffed up your ass that your brain no longer exists.

Norman Blitzer on October 15, 2007 at 1:39 am

I can’t believe it. One woman expresses her opnion on a seriously irrelevant television side show and everyone gets their panties in a wad. Another woman, local and far more relevant to anyone living here, expresses her opinion in a simple rational defense of the first woman and the thread explodes in to ad hominems, sorting through Christains, Nazis, Jews, Muslims, and for all I know the Dali Lama. Far more insult is embodied in this thread than in anything Ann Coulter said. By comparison to pundits, with far wider coverage, daily, such as Keith Olbermann of NBC/MSNBC, Ann’s a virtual saint anyway. She gave an opinion, folks, she did not advocate a pogrom. As I said earlier on this thread, I know who I’d trust with keeping a promise. I don’t have to agree with everything she says to get a clue to her character.
This “gotcha” mentality combined with the invective of ad hominem atttacks in general is part of our national problem. Taking personal offense because someone doesn’t agree with your philosophy and opinion by rote tells me you don’t have much of either beyond emotion and dogma.
Now as for Muslims and what they are about, if you don’t live among 30 odd thousand of them, in a 90% Muslim population density, elbow to elbow, don’t waste your breath telling me what you think they think. I’ll go on record right here and say Debbie Schlussel is generally right about the situation, even if I occasionally disagree with her on approach, which is rare. I respect her for getting in my face when we disagree without reducing herself to calling me “asshole” or some other pejorative. My guess is that she’ll be here, right down the street from me, this week, when Mz Myers pays her dhimmi visit to Bint Jebeil Cultural Center and Hezbollah rally venue. How many of the tough critic here will be there, too? Walk the walk, and come on down….I’d love to hear you express your invective inclined selves in that crowd.
I’m secular, in the extreme, but I’d say all relgious folks have their fundamentalist groups, both Christians and Jewish people certainly do. Not because of something I’ve read, but due to my first hand experiences with them. You want to get your feelngs hurt, vis a vis “perfection”, hang out with some radical Haredi Black Hats of the Jewish faith for a while….most of their opinions make Ann Coulter seem rather benign. Then to assure a full dose of it, hang with some “Charismatic Catholics” for a bit. Still, none of them are advocating my demise or imprisonment. Thing is, they don’t represent the thoughts of the friends I have in the Detroit Metro area, as well as in Israel, who happen to be Jewish, most who are “religious” Jews. Nor those I call friend who are Catholic. Note the sequence here, “friends” precedes relgious designation.
The whole point is if no one is free to disagree with you, without incurring personal attack, then just how at liberty are you really? Trust me, I’m Irish to the core and I know how to be a primo insulting jerk, but try to avoid it, emphasis on “try.” Some of you on this thread act like my cousins, which implies it isn’t genetic after all.

Zoyadog on October 15, 2007 at 5:45 am

Zoyadog, excellent post. I live among that 90% Arab Muslim population density, and I agree with you that Debbie has her finger on the pulse of REALITY regarding this situation. I’m sorry if that hurts the feelings of the good Muslims out there, but most of them want to kill us and they aren’t secretive about it. Do I wish Ann were more careful in her speech? Yeah, but I’d rather have her on my team any day than Danny Douchebag or any other of an assortment of leftwing “progressives.”

AmericanJewess on October 15, 2007 at 6:54 am

I can picture it now, radical muslims and leftist jews marching side by side chanting “Death to Ann Coulter!”

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:18 am

hey, KOAJaps, here’s an excerpt from a Jewish guy’s memoir.
“upwards of 20,000 Jews escaped the Holocaust by fleeing to Shanghai. Under pressure from their Nazi allies, the Japanese confined them to the Hongkew district, but largely left them alone. The Japanese also adhere to the rich and smart stereotype, and at one point, taking the anti-Semitic literature from Europe at face value, they contemplated allying with this supposedly powerful race to further their imperialist quest in Asia. I haven’t read much about this “Fugu plan,” but apparently a loan from the New York banker Jacob Schiff that helped Japan win its 1904-05 war with Russia gave the Japanese a favorable impression of the Jews.”

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:22 am

It’s jusrt so hailarious when a Japanese criticizing Christians for helping Hitler while neglecting the fact that Japan was on Hitler’s side in WWII!!!!
When are you japanese going to apologize to the chinese people for the atrocities you commited? Atrocities every bit as horrible as the Holocaust!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:30 am

Sorry I’m late to the “dance”. Debbie, as usual, your comments are “laser” perfect. Also, good commentaries by everyone. Bottom line in all of this based on what I’ve read and experienced, is that while many faiths have their respective “fringe elements”, the Islamo-groups actively promote intimidation and violence. Why do they come down on public figures like Debbie and Ann? Because they are VERY afraid of them! If more people would speak out publicly and demonstrate (as was mentioned above), maybe more Americans would get involved. I don’t care how offensive Ann Coulter can be (or Debbie for that matter). At this time, in order to get the sleeping giant to awaken, the alarm clock has to be loud and offensive!

FreeAmerican on October 15, 2007 at 8:32 am

And yes, after watching documentries on the Nanking Massacre/Forgotten Holocaust, I almost felt glad that United States nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:34 am

Here’s an excerpt from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
“The International Military Tribunal for the Far East stated that 20,000 (and perhaps up to 80,000) women were raped—their ages ranging from infants to the elderly (as old as 80). Rapes were often performed in public during the day, sometimes in front of spouses or family members. A large number of them were systematized in a process where soldiers would search door-to-door for young girls, with many women taken captive and gang raped. The women were then killed immediately after the rape, often by mutilation. According to some testimonies, other women were forced into military prostitution as comfort women. There are even stories of Japanese troops forcing families to commit acts of incest.[15] Sons were forced to rape their mothers, fathers were forced to rape daughters. One pregnant woman who was gang-raped by Japanese soldiers gave birth only a few hours later; the baby was perfectly healthy (Robert B. Edgerton, Warriors of the Rising Sun). Monks who had declared a life of celibacy were forced to rape women for the amusement of the Japanese.[15] Chinese men were forced to have sex with corpses. Any resistance would be met with summary executions. While the rape peaked immediately following the fall of the city, it continued for the duration of the Japanese occupation.”

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:38 am

oh, and Jacob Schiff is a douche bag for helping Hitler’s allies – the japanese.

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:48 am

In WW2, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan were the axis of evil

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 8:51 am

And I think Japan is the only country in all of Asia (excluding Russia) to have a Neo-Nazi party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Japanese_Workers_and_Welfare_Party

Genius on October 15, 2007 at 10:17 am

AmericanJewess…..
Thanks for the compliment.
“I’m sorry if that hurts the feelings of the good Muslims out there….”
Unfortunately, even the bulk of well intentioned Muslims do not object to the concept of an expanded Caliphate, and are prone to blame “Jews” for whatever complaint they have that day. Last summer’s mini-war between the IDF and Hezbollah in Lebanon made that pretty clear, from the conversations I took part in around here at that time. I can be blunt and some of these conversations ended long term acquaintances.
With only 2 exceptions, virtually everyone I spoke with was convinced Israel started the war, that Hezzbollah was a peaceful organizaiton, comprised of Israeli oppressed Lebanese, and not sponsored by Persians in Tehran. Furhter, they were convinced that the root of it all was Israeli persecution of Palestinians….rather humorous to me, since from my obserations Lebanese, Iraqis, and Palestinians don’t get along well, even tend to move away from each other. Only for the cameras do they congregate in pseudo solidarity.
My take on it all is simply that those whose feelings might be hurt, would none the less NOT step forward in your defense if and when the murder inclined among them attack you or me. Of the 2 I mentioned above that were exceptions, only one of those, with certainty, would step forward on my behalf if necessary….and that may be because I have done so on his, and his families’, behalf in the past in a very ugly confrontation (Sharia issues aimed at his family)on my street that wound up in criminal court. My experience living here tells me that most of the best of them are submissive to peer pressure on this subject; the fear of being a stand out on the issue is palpable.
It’s strange world indeed when the most noticeable expression of disagreement with a fanatical Mulsim turns out to be the lack of a Jihadi posse at Zorkot’s initial hearing 21 September. Let’s see if that lasts for the next on 09 November. I’m not holding my breath…blue lips don’t go with my complexion.

Zoyadog on October 15, 2007 at 11:39 am

Debbie-
There is probably more to the announcemants by the Muslim groups than an effort to seem politically correct for clueless liberals.
I think they are seizing an opportunity to fan the flames of a potential backlash against what is now called the overpowerful “Jewish Lobby”, which includes the notion of a Jewish controlled media complex.
Probably within the week, a Christian religious leader will come to Coulter’s public defense. If the ADL and attacks that person, look for the flames to get even hotter. Sooner or later some public Jew will slip up and attack Christian theology, and the anti-“Israel Lobby”-ists will have a chip in the big game.
The muslims are playing it well, you have to hand it to them.

melchloboo on October 15, 2007 at 12:40 pm

Posted by: Genius [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 15, 2007 08:22 AM
Thanks for posting that about the conduct of the Japanese. I was about to scream after reading KOAJaps outrage with Christians during WWII.
“And yes, after watching documentries on the Nanking Massacre/Forgotten Holocaust, I almost felt glad that United States nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”
Me too

ScottyDog on October 15, 2007 at 1:34 pm

KOAJaps,
I’ve met quite a few Japanese Americans who were angered over the US decision to place Japanese Americans in camps during WWII, but I have never met one who hated Christianity because of it or claimed that “Christians” placed my people in camps”. Many were hurt that America would do this to them after they spent years assimilating into the culture, but I never heard “religion” brought into it. Help me to understand….
If it were only “Christians” who placed the Japanese in these camps, can you supply documentation that states that the placement of Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WWII was some sort of religious edict?
Do you have documentation that shows the religious background and veracity of “faith” of all those who within the government who made the decision to place Japanese Americans in the camps? Isn’t it pretty presumptuous to assume that because one is an American, one is also a Christian? (even in 1940’s America)?
I’ve read documentation of several American churches, especially in California, that preached again the detainment of Japanese Americans in WWII. Can you provide documentation of American churches that lobbied FOR the detainment of Japanese Americans in camps?
Since you are an atheist, should people hate all atheists because many an atheist supported the Nazis in WWII, especially more than a few atheistic European scientists who believed in the validity of racial eugenics and Darwin’s “survival of the fittest” evolutionary theories as applied to human racial genetics?
Why hate? Should Americans hate all Japanese because of the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, their alliance with Nazi Germany, the Bataan Death March, the rape of Nanking, their starvation of prisoners in the Philippines etc…?
Just asking to get clarification…..

JibberJabber on October 15, 2007 at 5:36 pm

JibberJabber
I read various of the posts by the KOAJAPS. I think your post deals with the issues he is upset about very well. Especially the last paragraph. Should detainment of Japanese Americans have happened during WW2? Surely not. Is it a stain on our nation’s history–of course. Your last paragraph says it well though:
“Why hate? Should Americans hate all Japanese because of the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, their alliance with Nazi Germany, the Bataan Death March, the rape of Nanking, their starvation of prisoners in the Philippines etc…?”
Soooo….King of all Japs–real Americans (this includes Christians BTW) hate what happened. You are going to have to learn to let go of some things. You act as though we all want to put you in Mansinar today–and you know that is ludicrous. Please redirect your anger to a deserving source. Your directing it toward Coulter is wrong and somewhat sad. I hope you will rethink what really has you so riled up and deal with it constructively.
Lastly, the thing that is different with most muslims that I have observed is that unlike other groups who disown those who commit attrocities from their faith or ethnicity–these “people” justify the murderous behavior of their kinfolk. As a point of evidence, I ask–where is the groundswell of muslims who are speaking out (or marching in protest) against the suicide bombers, or the beheaders or any of the hundreds of other attrocities they do in the name of allahu akhbar? This, KOAJaps, is something to get your shorts in a wad over–not Coulter’s faith comments.

BB on October 15, 2007 at 11:38 pm