July 25, 2007, - 4:20 pm

Jihad Spence: Fred Thompson’s Pan-Islamist Campaign Manager

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He hasn’t entered the Presidential race yet, but Fred Thompson, yesterday, showed us why he’s the scariest Republican Presidential candidate. And maybe the scariest of both parties.
Don’t believe Thompson’s claim that he understands the Islamist jihadist threat to America. His announcement, yesterday, of his choice of Spencer Abraham as campaign manager, told us everything we need to know. Although Abraham, of Lebanese descent, is a Christian, he is a career water carrier for Islamists of the most extremist stripe and made that the cornerstone of his failed, one-term Senate career and equally lousy tenure as Energy Secretary.


Spencer Abraham:

Former Bush Energy Secretary, Current Pan-Islamist & Fred Thompson Campaign Manager

As a conservative–but more important, as an American concerned about the future of this country in the face of a terrorist threat–Thompson’s choice of Spencer Abraham was the final nail in the coffin for me in opposing Fred Thompson’s quest for the White House.
I know Spencer Abraham. He wrote one of my recommendations for law school. And the Spencer Abraham that I and all of America have since experienced is bad news for everyone except CAIR, ADC, MPAC, ISNA, and all Islamists who want to endanger America.
In 2003, I wrote the a/k/a Spence a/k/a Edward Spencer Abraham (which was quoted in The Washington Post), and I re-publish it below, with several additions I’ve made, updating it. At the time Spence was still Energy Secretary, but he left to become a .
As a Senator, he took marching orders from James Zogby of the pan-Islamist Arab American Institute, opposing profiling of Arabs, the use of secret evidence against Muslims (at the behest of Muslim groups), attempting to repeal the Clinton counterterrorism package, refusing to fund computer tracking of student and other foreign aliens, giving millions in our tax money right to Hezbollah, and putting CAIR on the map on Capitol Hill (taking the group’s officials around to meet other Senators and Members of Congress). He took campaign contributions from the relatives of Hezbollah-backed top Lebanese officials after he got the group millions in our tax money.
Spence was one of only two Senators in the entire U.S. Senate who refused to sign a letter calling on President Clinton to condemn Palestinian terrorism and Yasser Arafat. This was at the height of a series of homicide bombings in Israel in 1999 and 2000.
As Energy Secretary, he gave top secret tours of nuclear facilities, as well as detailed information on how we secure them to Muslim nations who are our enemies. And he gave out undue post-9/11 awards to Al-Qaeda money-launderers . . . at the White House. The money launderers were raided by U.S. Customs Service agents.
After he left the Bush cabinet, Spence that practice the Arab boycott of Israel and don’t really like us too much either. He took their money and until the Thompson race, did their bidding.
Do you really support a guy, Fred Thompson, who picked this man to head up his team? Either Thompson is clueless about Abraham, which should immediately disqualify him for the White House and frighten all of us about how he makes decisions. Or he knows about Abraham, and went with him anyway. Just as bad.
If you want to say no to jihad, you WILL say NO to Fred Thompson. He chose, and now we must choose against him:
JIHAD SPENCE: Bush’s Dangerous Energy Secretary is Now Fred Thompson’s Campaign Manager
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Since the Blackout of 2003, he’s gotten lots of TV face time. But should U.S. energy policy be entrusted to Spencer Abraham?
In 2000, President Bush said his Cabinet would “look like America,” nominating Abraham, the defeated Lebanese-American Senator from Michigan, to Energy Secretary–part of the Bush strategy targeting the Arab vote.
But was this political strategy in the best interest of the country? Abraham’s record suggests otherwise.
In the two years since 9/11, Abraham did absolutely nothing to improve our precarious electric power situation.
That would be bad enough.
But, since 9/11, Abraham continued a controversial UN-sponsored program allowing foreign visitors from countries on the State Department terrorist list to tour U.S. nuclear reactors. A course sponsored by the UN International Atomic Energy Agency, taught by U.S. nuclear weapons lab security personnel, gives tours of Nuclear Regulatory Commission facilities and teaches participants from 57 countries–including Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia–security techniques employed at American nuclear sites. “They were teaching them to black out systems, which they could use against us at labs,” an official told a popular newssite. This was reported on extensively by investigative reporter Paul Sperry, author of “Infiltration.”
The Clinton Administration taught the course to foreign representatives, too. But that was pre-9/11. In the post-9/11 era, Abraham irresponsibly continued it, despite protests.
Then there’s Jamal Barzinji. Abraham enlisted him to find parties who helped and reached out to Muslims after 9/11, with Abraham hosting an awards ceremony for them. Problem is, Barzinji is an officer and/or director in SAFA Trust, Mar-Jac Poultry, and International Institute for Islamic Thought, all raided by Customs in March 2002 for laundering over $1.7 billion to Al-Qaeda and Islamic Jihad (through University of South Florida terrorist professor and Islamic Jihad founder and frontman, Sami Al-Arian).
More troubling is Abraham’s Senate record, ignored by his former Senate colleagues in an easy confirmation hearing.
Should a Senator who deliberately endangered national security for Arab/Muslim votes and campaign money be entrusted to oversee U.S. energy policy and access?
Abraham’s frightening national security record included:
Liberal immigration policy, including lax foreign visitor tracking, at the behest of Arab/Muslim groups; Tried to End Profiling, Secret Evidence Use Against Terrorists
Abraham was Senate Immigration Subcommittee Chairman through the end of 2000. Abraham routinely caved to the demands of Arab/Muslim leaders, such as the Arab American Institute’s James Zogby, on national security matters, especially immigration.
“Ever since (I first met) him, Abraham has been coming to us and giving advice, support and the benefits of his leadership,” Zogby told The Detroit News.
And taking Zogby’s advice, too.
Abraham actively worked to delay computer systems to track foreign visitors, which Arab/Muslim groups, including Zogby’s, strongly opposed. 1996 immigration law required computerized entry and exit tracking of all temporary visas, but was gutted by Abraham and other legislators. They refused to allocate money for the program and delayed its full implementation until 2005. In 2000, Abraham, as Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee, delayed implementation of other requirements of the 1996 immigration measure, including university-assisted enforcement student visa laws and collection of fees from foreign students to pay for computer tracking.
These programs might have prevented the Sept. 11 attacks. But Abraham desperately craved the Arab/Muslim vote in Michigan.
Abraham also sponsored and pushed for the repeal of the use of secret evidence against terrorists, a vital portion of the Clinton counterterrorism package. He also sought to outlaw profiling of Arabs and Muslims by federal law enforcement.
Foreign aid funding for Hezbollah, rewarded by pseudo-foreign campaign contributions
In July 2000, Abraham sought over $268 million in tax-funded USAID grants for Hezbollah terrorist-controlled Southern Lebanon, at Arab American Institute’s Zogby’s request. Iranian- and Syrian-backed Hezbollah, has targeted and murdered many Americans. Millions in similar USAID grants (which have scant strings and accountability attached) to Afghanistan were misspent on Taliban terrorist activities. Abraham enlisted Michigan Republican Congressman Joe Knollenberg, on the House International Relations Committee, to push the questionable aid package in the House. They ended up obtaining $86 million, which went straight to Hezbollah and which was never tracked thereafter. They knew this, and that’s why they and Zogby sought the money for their Hezbollah friends.
Abraham and Knollenberg were repaid for their efforts, receiving thousands in campaign contributions from Nijad Fares, the Houston-based greencard-holding son of Syrian-backed Lebanese Deputy Prime Minister Issam Fares.
Soft on terrorism
Abraham was one of only two U.S. Senators who refused to sign an October 2000 letter to President Clinton condemning terrorist acts by Yasser Arafat and the P.L.O.
Abraham led the nearly successful June 2001 attempt to reverse the use of classified evidence against terrorists, sponsoring the legislation at the behest of Islamist groups, including the American Muslim Association (AMA) and the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), both headed by Agha Saeed.
In July 1999, Abraham wrote to Saeed, AMA, and AMPCC asking their support: “Your efforts are truly needed in the political arena. . . . You can truly make a difference in the political and policy arenas, and I remain committed to helping you achieve that goal.”
But Saeed openly praised Palestinian terrorism as “armed resistance” and appeared at lectures and events sponsored by Hamas front groups, including one panel, in which he was joined by the indicted Al-Arian, entitled: “Zionism: A Racist and Colonialist Ideology.” AMA-sponsored events featured these exhortations: “The trees and the stones will say, oh Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him!” “Victory comes from Allah and Hezbollah is our model.” “Hear that, Bill Clinton? We are all supporters of Hamas.”
Given Spencer Abraham’s record of kowtowing to Arab, Muslim, and foreign interests on virtually every national security issue, his hegemony at Energy is disturbing. He should control no form of power–political or electric.




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69 Responses

I agree wholeheartedly with Debbie on this. SPENCER IBRAHIM is a disaster and a failure. AND, if Fred Thompson hired this guy, it tells you where Fred Thompson’s mind is at.
BTW, I’m really tired of Thompson’s “dance of the seven veils” tease about getting into the race. Either get in or shut up and go away.
Fred Thompson is no conservative. He’s also a lazy bastard.
BTW, whilst in the U.S.Senate, Thompson voted against the removal of Clinton from office after he was impeached. In effect, Thompson voted the equivalent of “Not Guilty”.
Not for nuthin’, but, Fred Thompson reminds me of the “Creature From The Black Lagoon”.

Thee_Bruno on July 25, 2007 at 5:21 pm

“Creature From The Black Lagoon”.
Really? Cause I always thought he looked Mr Burns from the Simpsons. He kind of acts like him too, greedy and power hungry.

Figgins on July 25, 2007 at 5:40 pm

I forwarded this article (crediting DebbieSchlussel.com) to the ImWithFred website (I’m a member) to see what explanation they could possibly have. Hope it’s a good one.

Grinchnet on July 25, 2007 at 5:44 pm

I have not been impressed with Fred Thompson at all but that finishes him for me. He seems all over the place, sleazy, oily, and not sincere. This terrible choice shows that we need to unite around another Republican candidate so that Thompson does not get the nomination.

Gabe on July 25, 2007 at 6:27 pm

OK. It’s going to have to be Rudy. Picking a jihadisymp like Abraham is an unforgiveable blunder. But, how is Rudy on the border?

lexi on July 25, 2007 at 6:49 pm

Fred Thompson is not to be trusted. He smeared Gandhi in a radio address some months ago (He said Gandhi blamed the Jews for their own persecution in Nazi Germany which was a lie) and now it turns out he lied about lobbying for a pro-abortion group. And what about his 5 years on ‘Law and Order’? Conservatives were presented as buffoons. Remember the show on a minutemen-type group? Or the Evangelical father who killed his daughter’s teacher because he was teaching her evolution when it turns out the father really killed the teacher because the father thought the teacher had seduced his daughter?

Norman Blitzer on July 25, 2007 at 7:24 pm

Spence was key behind pushing increased H1-B’s. Thompson appears, by his voting record, to be all over replacing American workers with foreign labor as long as its legal. Hiring Spence tells me he hasn’t changed his position on the legal dumping of labor into the country and the workplace. The term ‘Guest Worker’ comes to mind.
In general I know squat about Thompson’s positions without doing some unusually deep digging. He has one thing going for him. He’s not afraid to rebutt the Democrats and has some skill in doing so. Something our current President sorely lacks. However, that is not enough.
With the exception of 1 or 2 years after 9/11 I consider Bush a pro-corporate democrat. Which explains his affinity for illegal immigration since it is the one issue he can fully agree on with himself. Fred Thompson could be another Bush with better speaking skill. No thanks.
JPM100:
YOU ARE SO RIGHT. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. HE WAS, INDEED, BIG ON EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF H-1B VISAS AND RELAXING THE RESTRICTIONS (SUCH AS THERE REALLY ARE ANY THAT ARE ENFORCED). THANKS FOR REMINDING ME.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

jpm100 on July 25, 2007 at 8:26 pm

Good post Debbie. I’m not a Thompson supporter, but I was shocked at his selection of Abraham.

Spanky on July 25, 2007 at 9:12 pm

Good post Debbie. I’m not a Thompson supporter, but I was shocked at his selection of Abraham.

Spanky on July 25, 2007 at 9:13 pm

Think Newt! I pray he gets into the race. He’s the only one who has given thought to the many problems that the country is now facing. He’s bright says smart things and can handle himself against his political enemies and ours. He’s the total opposite of Billary. Most of all wouldn’t you all like to see him debate her head to head?
Fred has clearly demonstrated that he’s no Ronald Wilson Reagan with this move.

warpmine on July 25, 2007 at 9:14 pm

thanks for the heads up, debbie. there was something about fred thompson that didn’t smell quite RIGHT. i think he’s been trying to sound like regan to win us over. sooner or later a rat will start to stink like rotton cheese.

piker on July 25, 2007 at 9:19 pm

Agreed, something didn’t smell quite right about this guy, starting with his membership in the CFR. Afraid Fred would bring us 4 more years just like the previous 8, or worse, if that’s possible. Buenos dias, NAU? Fred, don’t even bother. Tancredo, Hunter, Paul, Newt, all would be better choices.

jeebie on July 25, 2007 at 9:44 pm

I’m actually glad he did this. Shows where he is really coming from. He has been being touted as the saviour of the Republican party but this helps show what a wolf in sheep’s clothing he really is. However having said that it would seem the Republican party is fu**ed and split wide open! Unless someone comes out of the blue there is not a candidate out there who will get broad support from conservative voters no matter who gets the nod.

AlturaCt on July 25, 2007 at 9:50 pm

I’m done with my Fred flirtation. I thought he might have appeal in crucial states Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and Florida, but forget that.
Debbie: what are your thoughts on Newt. I find him physically repulsive to watch, but I don’t know if his anti-terrorist credentials are real (like Rudy) or fake (like Romney).

sonomaca on July 25, 2007 at 10:08 pm

Surprised and disappointed. I know very little about Thompson and was waiting to hear him talk about Islam and immigration. This is not good. A terrible choice. It tells me that Thompson doesn’t know squat about Islam, has never read a Spencer, Trifloski or Emerson book, and is completely ignorant of Spence’s open border positions and despicable sucking up to the jihadists. Really bad.

John Sobieski on July 25, 2007 at 10:13 pm

It looks like the road is getting paved for Giuliani who is no conservative.
Even Hillary is pretending to be tough on terrorism and the fools voters and some political commentators of Fox News are starting to believe her.
What will be the difference between those two at the end of the day? Almost nothing. Two faces of the same coin.
I guess we will never see any time soon a Ronald Reagan era again, or even close to it.
Where have the true conservative leaders gone?
It’s depressing. It’s demoralizing.

Independent Conservative on July 25, 2007 at 11:20 pm

This choice by F. Thompson just leaves me very perplexed. I’ve listened to Thompson discuss many issues that most politicians aren’t in-touch with. I’m wondering if an appeal from his supporters might not make Thompson reconsider this choice. Perhaps he is simply not as aware of S. Abraham’s past policies as you are Debbie. I admit it’s unlikely that he hasn’t run a background check on his own campaign manager, but the devil is in the details.
“NOT AWARE”? UH, THAT’S THE KIND OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT–A GUY WHO DOES ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH AND JUST HIRES SOMEONE LIKE THIS? NICE TRY, BUT NO CIGAR. WE ALREADY HAVE A PREZ LIKE THAT. YOU WANT ANOTHER ONE?
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Foehammer on July 25, 2007 at 11:21 pm

Debbie, FT made some very pro-israeli comments about their recent throw down in Lebanon. He seems Giuliani like in that respect. And it would be nice to have a stripper first lady.

Anonymous1 on July 25, 2007 at 11:25 pm

The Republican party is destroying America, and Thompson isn’t exactly rebuking the Republican party. It’s hopeless, I’m writing in Michael Savage, I guess. It doesn’t really matter anymore. I know I’ll never vote Dem or Republican again.
Westerners are SO CHICKEN, they can’t even bring themselves to call Hamas, Hezbollah, CAIR, or for that matter, La Raza, our enemy! We are so pathetic, it is disgusting. It is infuriating. I hope Peak Oil collapses everything. Milk is suddenly $5.25 a gallon, and corn doubled a few months ago. If we are at Peak Oil, prices should begin rising steadily. I hope this is the beginning of the end, and we can all go to war with our enemy, the muslims, and all our enemies.

steve ventry on July 26, 2007 at 12:27 am

What a dumb choice. So long Fred. We hardly knew ye.

Southernops on July 26, 2007 at 1:46 am

Debbie,
I got banned tonight from Free Republic for raising questions about Spencer Abraham and for pushing Guiliani. Supposedly for his liberal abortion views. Which by the way, I’m not in agreement with I’ve never posted there any kind of pro-abortion remarks. Jim Robinson, the FR webmaster, denounced you as a naysayer and false conservative. I guess this what we get for speaking our minds. With you, I am in lonely company, since some conservatives want to see what they want to see in Fred Thompson.
PUH-LEEZE, THE GUY WHO IS RUNNING APPARENTLY UN-FREE REPUBLIC IS QUESTIONING MY CONSERVATISM?! SO, IT’S OFFICIAL, THEN–UN-FREE REPUBLIC IS AN OFFICIAL ARM OF THE FRED THOMPSON CAMPAIGN, AND ITS TAX-FREE STATUS SHOULD, THEREFORE, BE CHALLENGED TO THE IRS. PLEASE, NORMAN, I HOPE YOU WILL LEAD THE CHARGE. ALSO, PLEASE POST THE URL OF THAT ABSURD STATEMENT BY ROBINSON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

NormanF on July 26, 2007 at 3:49 am

“Westerners are SO CHICKEN, they can’t even bring themselves to call Hamas, Hezbollah, CAIR, or for that matter, La Raza, our enemy! We are so pathetic, it is disgusting.”
I agree with you. We have become cowards. Particularly when it comes to self interest and preservation of our nation and what was preserved for us. We can’t even define what an American is anymore. It is a proposition nation that has nothing in common and means squat. It is everything defined only by ideas that are vague and not connected . A multicultural Nirvana that is defined by nothing. We are the world and the world will destroy us. America is basically doomed at least America as we have known it.

AlturaCt on July 26, 2007 at 3:54 am

Debbie, I do not follow your advice like a puppy dog of course.
It is not in a cats nature, particularly a feral one’s.
However, you have convinced me to lower my rating for Fred from a 7 to a 3.
We are running out of viable options.
Bonnie Tyler –
Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where’s the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn’t there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream
of what I need
I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ’til the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ’til the morning light
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life

feralcat9 on July 26, 2007 at 4:34 am

We’re down here in Houston, where Thompson came this week. One friend of mine (known by strong ties in our fight to stop the illegal invasion) went to see Thompson before the lunch. He had this to say:
“I was there …Up close and personal…the “CFR” lady was standing immediately to my left….she was very calm and cordial as she asked the “CFR” question until they grabbed her arm and escorted her out. Her question was appropriate….but Fred has bigger problems with me/us……glad I did not spend my $2300 for lunch today.”
Brian

75273 on July 26, 2007 at 7:21 am

I would advise patience. Remember how many people swooned into the Nazis’ arms before the war, remember the America Firsters? Remember all the problems the Duke of Windsor caused?
What we are seeing know is like Mao and his Thousand Flowers. All the people who are our enemies are being bidden to show themselves, and the are. By the time the hand plays out we will have no secret enemies.
Our stupidity and cowardice will be paid for in blood, but I will say that experience will be the only teacher here. I will also say that many who will pay, are ones who believe this twaddle.
I also predict that when this festival of knowledge comes, the country will split, with many leaving just as after the Revolution.

taffy on July 26, 2007 at 7:58 am

More info about Thompson’s past:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/25/AR2007072502329_pf.html

Independent Conservative on July 26, 2007 at 10:12 am

sonomaca said “what are your thoughts on Newt. I find him physically repulsive to watch, but I don’t know if his anti-terrorist credentials are real (like Rudy) or fake (like Romney).”
Unbelievable! Perhaps you should just vote for the Breck Girl John Edwards. At least listen to the man before you condemn him at (www.newt.org)
before rushing to judgement. Be forwarned his ideas make good sense and the following speech is just over an hour.
http://www.webcastgroup.com/client/start.asp?wid=0740723073502

warpmine on July 26, 2007 at 10:14 am

I’ve been waiting for Fred Thompson to finally talk about the issues facing America and where he stands on them. While he may have left a very small footprint in the Senate he talks a good game and I figured he at least deserved a chance. OK, so I was wrong. If this is an example of his leadership and wisdom then count me out. I’ll wait for Newt to run. My question is: at what point in time will the people elected to office and/or running for office start to understand how serious the matter of terrorism is? Thay seem to believe that the jihadists really aren’t serious about the destruction of Western Civilization. Time for a reality check; the Qur’an offers non-Muslims three choices, conversion, subjugation, or death. That pretty much says it all.

desertdog on July 26, 2007 at 10:32 am

Thank you! I would not have impagined this alliance. Many will vote for him if they are not aware. Is it crazy if I suggest that Thompson feels if he can only win if he gives in to Islamic desires (as the Democrat party does)?
…But what else can we conclude about Thompson? That means “they” (anti-American/terrorists) already have that much power here! But, what about the rest of us?? Please let’s find ways to let all know of this and let’s find someone who is not compromised! Our safety and our future depend on it!

crazycatkids on July 26, 2007 at 10:53 am

“Pffffffffft” is the sound of my Thompson balloons loosing air. Sigh.
Tancredo needs to increase his public communication skills, because at this point he is the only candidate running that even remotely understands islam’s role in ME politics and historic hegemony.

justamomof4 on July 26, 2007 at 11:00 am

Comments on Fred T, Free Republic, and the Republicans are all well taken.
Although I am no fan of Lincoln, he *did* lead the charge out of the Whigs to form the Republican party.
And, that’s the only way that a third party can work: Get name people who will defect en masse.
Sounds like a plan.

Red Ryder on July 26, 2007 at 11:28 am

I never saw the fascination about Thompson either. I’m however surprised that those who are aggressive about combating Islamic supremacy aren’t gung-ho behind Tancredo, who’s the only candidate who not only gets the Jihadi threat (which all GOP candidates currently claim to get, including al Qaeda senator Jihad McCain), but he also advocates a disengagement of troops from Iraq and ending the goal of preventing a civil war – which is NOT in our interests.
As for Giuliani, he does have problems of his own, like wanting to support Fatah against Hamas, instead of letting their civil war fester.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017137.php

Infidel Pride on July 26, 2007 at 1:07 pm

Thanks Debbie,
If you were running I would vote for you in a heartbeat! Thanks for all you do in the face of great risk!
My prospects are down to Newt and Duncan Hunter.

TallT on July 26, 2007 at 1:09 pm

Ditto the previous poster. Thanks, Debbie, for all you do!
I also like Duncan Hunter. I was seriously thinking about supporting Fred (maybe even helping out his Texas campaign), but I cannot support him after this.

barrypopik on July 26, 2007 at 1:23 pm

Thanks again Debbie. I think everyone here should chat this Thompson choice up and spread the word! I had knd of liked him and now feel foolish! Tancredo always sounds sensible – in radio interviews & I checked him out on YouTube (although that site is of course upsetting in many ways). This is so important – I just wonder how we can know who to trust?

crazycatkids on July 26, 2007 at 1:46 pm

Newt Gingrich’s name has come here as a possible candidate. I considered him a real conservative, but when I heard that he is a regular at the “Wednesday Meeting” at Grover Norquist’s house, well…so much for voting for him.

interestinconundrum on July 26, 2007 at 3:08 pm

Unbelievable!
Infiltration all the way, at the highest levels of government, treason, sabotage, espionage, you name it.
Do you think Fred Thompson knows about this guy’s activities or is he just negligent and didn’t bother to find out?

sheik yer'mami on July 26, 2007 at 3:11 pm

Fantastic! The self destruction of the right wing at the hands of it’s own paranoia and bigotry!
Love It!!!!
Keep up the good work Deb!

Dr.F on July 26, 2007 at 3:36 pm

Dr. F,
Debbie is not destroying the right wing, they are doing a bang-up job of self destruction.
We demand a candidate that recognizes the gravity of what is facing the civilized world.
We are sick to death of two-faced leaders.

interestinconundrum on July 26, 2007 at 3:50 pm

Thanks interestinconundrum!
I didn’t know enough about Grover Norquist!
Here’s an article about his efforts by Byron York at NRO
:
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york031903.asp

TallT on July 26, 2007 at 4:06 pm

You are welcome TallT.
If Dr F wasn’t being sarcastic as I supposed he was, this little hiccup will not stop the patriots of the US. I for one will NEVER vote for the left.
Are you Dr. Fallon?

interestinconundrum on July 26, 2007 at 4:11 pm

Dr F is more dangerous then the left. At least with the left you know they are evil and exactly what they will attempt to do but Mr F would have you vote for the same “conservatives” who helped create this mess and thinks we are protecting something by doing so. If we conservatives don’t do something other then vote for the lesser of two evils we deserve everything that is happening. Enough!

AlturaCt on July 26, 2007 at 5:36 pm

Newt for President?
This is a guy who doesn’t think guns kill people. He thinks video games with virtual guns kill people.
Real jenius, he.

Robert on July 26, 2007 at 5:57 pm

All the top tier candidates being pushed by the Rockefellar Republican RNC are members of the CFR.
The only Republicans that are not members of the elitist CFR are Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul.
Fred Thompson is a member of the CFR so is Newt Gingrich. An activist asked Thompson about his membership in the group, linking it with plans for a North American Union on July 25.After Thompson pretended he knew nothing about the North American Union or SPP, the Activist was forcibly removed from the public meeting at the Hobby Airport by security.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56861
The RNC is being run by Elitist Globalists that want to turn the USA into a European Union like Tri-Lateral confederation. Some would dare call that treason including me.
I will be voting for Duncan hunter or Tom Tancredo, the only true conservatives running for office.

ScottyDog on July 26, 2007 at 6:11 pm

Norman Blitzer said that Gandhi was slandered by those saying that the Jews in Europe in WW2 were responsible for their own plight. I have never seen such a claim by Gandhi; however, I imagine such thoughts must lie close to the surface for believers in the religions that teach the doctrine of karma, namely, Hinduism and Buddhism (and Jainism as well, I suppose).
I’m pretty sure I read that Gandhi did call upon the Jews not to resist the Nazis, that they would appear nobler being slaughtered rather than killing in order to resist. (Sorry, I don’t have a citation.) This view is not demanded by Hinduism, and perhaps even by Buddhism (no matter what its Western adherents say). Actually, the most nationalist Hindus are fervent Zionists – even of Rabbi Kahane, z”l (may his memory be for a blessing). http://www.hinduunity.org has numerous links to nationalist Zionist groups – and articles denouncing Gandhi for what they saw as his betrayal of Bharata (India) to the Muslims.
Still, I never saw that particular claim of Gandhi mentioned by Mr. Blitzer.

Surak on July 26, 2007 at 9:50 pm

Debbie knows full well the story behind al-Arian as one of Bush’s “terrorist buddies”. She wrote a scathing report on al-Arian and family shortly after 9/11. The Feds fooled around for years before getting tough on al-Arian. Alamoudi was another close friend of Grover Nordquist, wasn’t he?
I wouldn’t have voted for FT even if he had named Larry Klayman as his campaign manager! I always felt he was a slow moving old bore. And his interview with Chris Wallace in March should have caused alarms to go off in conservative minds– that is, in the minds of those Americans who are “anti-Invasion fr. Mexico”, something that hasn’t been mentioned here. There are 30 million-plus illegals, mostly Mexican nationals, living in the U.S. Neither FT nor Romney want to touch them. They are probably on the side of Amnesty. Here’s that FT/Chris Wallace interview. See what you think about his responses. Some comments fr. me are in bold and brackets:
WALLACE: You also favor comprehensive immigration reform. I want to…
THOMPSON: No, no, no, no.
WALLACE: Well, let me put up on the screen something that you said last year about illegals, and let’s take a look at it. “You’re going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship but not make it so easy that it’s unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law.”
Now, you said, “Look, it’s just not realistic that we’re going to round up 12 million people and ship them all out of the country.”
THOMPSON: “Well, that’s true, as a general statement. We woke up one day after years of neglect and apparently discovered that we have somewhere between 12 million and 20 million illegal aliens in this country. So it became an impossible situation to deal with. [Not true! We knew it was happening, screamed blood hell but weren’t heard until Rep. Tancredo and the Minutemen Project came along]
I mean, there’s really no good solution. So what do you do? You have to start over. Well, I’m concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that’s why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary. [Well, Mr. Thompson, WE THE PEOPLE are concerned about THE CURRENT 30 million here who are killing, raping, maiming, molesting and committing fraud on U.S. taxpayers!]
I think most people feel disillusioned after 1986 when we had this deal offered to them before, and now we’re insisting that, you know, we solve the security problem first, and then we’ll talk about what to do with regard to other things รณ certainly no amnesty or nothing blanket like that.
But figure out some way to make some differentiation between the kind of people that we have here. [Huh? Amnesty? What’s he talking about?]
You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you’re not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they’re here, they’ll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to, you know, load up moving vans and rounding people up. That’s not going to happen.” [We’ll only encourage them to go back if the jobs dry up. And that will only happen when the Feds crack down on the millions of lawbreaking employers here! Will Thompson do this? Not the way he tells it. No mention of “employers” in his response]
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Is this the man we want in The White House?

levotb on July 26, 2007 at 9:52 pm

Surak
You are right. Gandhi’s suggestion that Jews sacrifice themselves to the Nazis very much paralleled his demand that Hindus and Sikhs let Muslims slaughter them for the glory of India and of Islam. Only difference – while he was nowhere in Europe to prevent Jews from defending themselves (to the extent that they ever could), he did everything he could – including his blackmail of Hindus by his threats of fasting unto death – to stop them from retaliating against Muslims, and used the same tactic to blackmail the Indian government into compensating Pakistan for the Muslims who lost their property due to fleeing to Pakistan (although nothing for Hindus & Sikhs who suffered the same coming the other way).
Gandhi was the worst specimen of human debri that ever walked the face of the earth, and Nathuran Godse did humanity a favor by putting him out of our misery.

Infidel Pride on July 27, 2007 at 12:19 am

Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but we need to promote someone whom is ELECTABLE. Not one Republican candidate, including Newt, is ELECTABLE.
Am I disappointed? Yes.
You sound like a bunch of Michigan Republicans. In the primary, they promoted a white cop career politician to run against LIBERAL Debbie StabMIindaback. Did they really think that ONE PERSON IN DETROIT would vote for that? They passed on a solid conservative black man (Butler) whom I voted for because of his ELECTABILITY.
“I’m done with my Fred flirtation. I thought he might have appeal in crucial states Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and Florida, but forget that.”
Wake up, people. We are still a year away from any vote. Elect someone who is ELECTABLE against Libs. Fred wins the South, and could grab most of those ‘crucial’ states. Colorado? Probably not.
I ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED KEITH BUTLER.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

HeHateJihad on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 am

Hi Debbie,
How did it happen that he wrote a law school recommendation for you?
Terry
I KNEW HIM AND ASKED–I’D BEEN A VERY ACTIVE VOLUNTEER AND ACTIVIST FOR THE MICHIGAN GOP, WHICH HE HEADED. AT THAT TIME, HE HAD NOT YET MADE HIS PAN-JIHADIST TURN.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Joe B. on July 27, 2007 at 2:52 am

In the wake of the GWB amnesty swindel I felt hopelessly lost when thinking about the 2008 election for president. I voted for GWB twice and have lived to regret it. Looking at the GOP line up that announced, I am disgusted at the so called top tier choices. I would prefer Tom Trancredo or even John Paul to any in that bunch corrupt people. Then There was a certain pull toward Fred Thompson, but Thompson seemed to treat the office in a too cavalier manner, more or less as a second thought to his approach to rummaging through life. I’m glad to have read this article because I always thought Spence a snake in the woods

blue_penquin on July 27, 2007 at 2:59 am

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