November 19, 2009, - 2:59 pm

New Moon Absurdity: The “Cougar” Thing’s Gone Way Too Far

By Debbie Schlussel

Last night, I attended a screening of “The Twilight Saga: New Moon,” the second cinematic installment in the “Twilight” book series that is all the rage for straight teen females.  I can’t post my review until Midnight, when the movie debuts, and I’ll try to have it up by that time.  Stay tuned for that.

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What got me were not the many teen girls in the long lines to get into the screenings or their screams at the sight of the male 20-something co-stars in the movie.  (Though, I really don’t think I was this bad as a young kid when I liked Sean Cassidy in “The Hardy Boys” or as a teen when I liked Rick Springfield and Duran Duran.)

What got me–what I found kinda laughable and pathetic–were the many (yes, many!) grown women who lined up for this and were all gaga over it.  We’re talking 30-, 40-, and even 50-something women who go to a movie to see a 17-year-old (who was 16 at the time it was filmed) take his shirt off and show his chest.  Isn’t there something illegal about this . . . or at least, unseemly?

Yes, a fit man is more attractive and appealing, but these young guys with sculpted chests didn’t turn me on.  They made me laugh.  They were like little boys and haven’t lived.  The ripples and six-pack abs were anything but masculine to me.  Masculinity isn’t hours at the gym and laying off the mac-and-cheese.

Sadly, it is to these older women I saw, who seem to be regressing in their adulthood, forsaking it altogether to feel young and be friends with their kids and kids’ friends.  It’s disturbing.  They’re devouring the “Twilight” books–which are essentially teen “Harlequin Romances”–and it’s (at least to me) sort of perverted.  It’s definitely way beyond cheesy.  And you wonder why so many female teachers have illicit affairs with their underaged male students.  It’s ‘cuz we glorify it. And it’s creepy.

Sorry, but our society has really taken glamorizing this “cougar” Demi-marries-Ashton thing waaaaay thing toooo far.  I mean, even the chintzy Joan Collins and Elizabeth Taylor were never this gauche.  I think they had a limit to how young they would go.

If men were going to teen movies to see under-aged girls, we’d put them in the “likely to child molest” category and call them dirty old men.  So, why do the women shamelessly gush over these young boys and get away with it?

For me, there is just one word for this:  Eeeuuuuwww.

The ABC show, “Cougartown,” starring Courtney Cox, is funny, because we laugh AT these women, not with them.  Cox’s 40-something predatory character, looking to “date” (euphemism) young guys, is a joke.  A disaster.  But these women at “New Moon” actually take this lifestyle seriously.  They think it becomes them as women.  It doesn’t.  It’s sad.

So many feminists decried older men dating younger women.  But, now, the new feminism they’ve created has the older women emulating the older men.  This is “equal rights” for women? It’s disgusting.  These predatory women are the new older men.

At least with older men and younger women, there was something in the laws of nature that made it appropriate.  Older men could still impregnate younger, childbearing-aged women, and there was a procreation reason behind it.  With older women chasing after young boys, there’s really no purpose other than self-gratification.

But, hey, that’s where we are now.  That’s our world.  Hey, moms, how’d you like your girlfriend to date your son?  Or, at least, fantasize about him in a teen girls’ movie.  It’s immaturity, something we encourage more and more not just in men in our society, but also in these narcissistic females.

Grow up, women.  Stay away from your daughters’ pop culture . . . and their teen idols.




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78 Responses

DS, they’re on the rebound from being disappointed by Obama the Hunk.

This too shall pass.

Stymie on November 19, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    I am in medical school, currently doing an OB clerkship. Most of the residents are 20-something women doctors, and it amazes me that they are completely obsessed with the Twilight books and movies. They go on about how “GOOOOD” these books are, how they read them at red lights while driving and also in motion while on long-distance freeway trips. They will see the movie at midnight after a long day of delivering babies and before another long day in the hospital. I really couldnt believe my ears. Here are supposedly educated, financially independent women talking about these books and movies as if they were 12 year olds at a slumber party. Really bizarre!!!

    Future Doc on November 19, 2009 at 7:09 pm

Love this article. you make a very good point. Women in their 50’s getting hot and bothered over boys who are not yet men is disgusting but that is the way media is spinning it now a days. To be a cougar seems to be something to aspire to when you are older. I have a son and would hate to have someone my age or older trying to get with him.

Alley on November 19, 2009 at 3:40 pm

Deb, this does not surprise me. Back when the Chippendales craze began, women were making complete fools of themselves. I’ve been to a few clubs/go-go bars (…..but not too many……..), and I’ve never ever seen men behave the way grown women did at a Chippendales/bachelorette party.
In that type of situation, a majority of women go absolutely batsh1t crazy.

guitarguy on November 19, 2009 at 4:09 pm

Much of American society has been regressed into a perpetual adolescence. Far easier to impose a socialist nanny state that way. Sadly, this is one of the drawbacks of having a relatively peaceful and prosperous country over several decades, where fewer and fewer people are obliged to grow up.

tempus fugit on November 19, 2009 at 4:18 pm

If a couple’s ages are extreme, their relationship won’t work. Our society is obsessed with eternal youth. No one stays young forever.

Grow up!

NormanF on November 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm

[That’s our world. Hey, moms, how’d you like your girlfriend to date your son? Or, at least, fantasize about him in a teen girls’ movie.] great point, Debbie.

Now that, you hope, will stop some of these cougars in their tracks to think. But, Debbie, you see it every day more and more, the Sodom-ization of the western culture, the “free world” runs inexorably to the gutter–most of those who should listen to you think your column is prudish.

I always marvelled that Howard Stern is called the king of all media, and credited with saving Sirius Radio–but this shows how successful he was, and many others–with their “push the envelope” agenda of shock and awe with more and more SEX. Where this will end up?–look at Amsterdam or Las Vegas–you have a pretty clear idea.

BB on November 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm

I dont find the Rob Pattison/Patterson person attractive, plus he is a child growing into adulthood…creepy….It speaks to the issue of men today looking like chics.

I know a few women my age (like 30 and over) who read the books like they are the bible they cannot wait for this film. for me? I am waiting on Debbie and the dvd. swine flu ? I am just avoiding the crowds.

lindapolver on November 19, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Just think…

What if it was 30, 40, and 50 year old guys lined up to oogle Hannah Montana…

Jason on November 19, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Well, that is only natural. 17 y/o babe can pump out plenty of kids over a life time. Prime breeding age, too. I am 66 y/o and I am going to invite HM to my private island where we can create a new race of beautiful people.

    Eduardo Coroccio on November 19, 2009 at 7:54 pm

Well, I’m not into either Twilight or New Moon, and I prefer men 5-10 years either side of my age (48), but way I see it, it’s their business if older women want to see such movies and admire a younger male actor. It’s only a movie. How come a man can admire younger female actress and models and dancers and what not and that’s ok, but if it’s the other way around then it’s “predatory?”

Sabrina on November 19, 2009 at 6:52 pm

Since they are Vampires – they’re actually older men – so it’s really a Cougar issue..

sandy on November 19, 2009 at 7:16 pm

LOL, it’s most pathetic.

“Cougar” is not a complement. Being respected by men is better than being no more than a used kleenex is a the mind of any guy.

Skunky on November 19, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Sorry. Should read…

    no more than a used kleenex in the mind of a guy.

    Skunky on November 19, 2009 at 7:30 pm

I can’t believe all of these nasty comments.

Have any of you read the books? Many people, myself included, actually love them.

Movies are usually never as good as the book they are adapted from. But who cares? They are FUN!

I am not drooling over the boys in the movie. I like the characters and love the story.

Life sucks right now for many of us. We need more fun, safe escapes from reality!

How sad that you have to make an issue out of this.

There are a LOT more serious issues happening everyday in our country to be complaining about.

Jo on November 19, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Totally agree w/ Jo. Loved the books as a fun escape. Not too keen on the first movie though. Not sure if I’ll see New Moon. But if I did, it would NOT be to drool over the young actors.

    Oh, and (@Don’t Tread On Me) I did not vote for Obama.

    KimH on November 20, 2009 at 9:46 am

It’s funny how you look at things, Debbie. A few years back you whined about women paying attention to Rick Springfield. Now you’re upset if the women pay attention to Robert Pattinson. Good lord, what do you expect them to do, be dried up and frustrated like you?

A: The dried up and frustrated one is the person who didn’t get that I “whined” about Rick Springfield wearing the stupid “CoExist” T-Shirt because he doesn’t get that it’s Muslims who don’t want to co-exist with us. Not sure how that means I “whined about women paying attention to Rick Springfield.” I didn’t. Thou doth protest too much, so you must be one of these 40- or 50-something creepy women who drool over the boys in this movie, whom I decry in this post. Oy. DS

Ann on November 19, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Sure, Debbie, whatever you say, you’re so all wise and all knowing. Whiny bitch!

    Ann on November 20, 2009 at 10:17 am

Well never heard of this. But reminds me of what Clint said the other day when he was asked about the country. He said we are losing the WW11 generation as they are dying off. And all we are left with now is a bunch of teen age twits. I am sure he was referring to how many so called adults now never seemed to grow up.

Harley2002 on November 19, 2009 at 7:49 pm

By the way Debbie I read the comment from Ann above mine. Hey you look damn good to me not dried up. I dare say Ann is probably about 50 plump and gets a nice wet spot when she looks at little boys LOL..

Harley2002 on November 19, 2009 at 7:52 pm

I couldn’t agree with you more Deb. I tried to read the first book and it was awful. Sparkling vampires!? Really? I am a 40 year old woman and the last thing I want to do is live as a perpetual high schooler. The book is angsty and juvenile. Even Stephen King ripped on it. It really is a Harlequin romance for the plain girls who never got the hot guy.

SQT on November 19, 2009 at 8:38 pm

I didn’t read the books, though co-workers did (30-50 year olds) and they loved them. I only saw Twilight when I watched it with my 17 year old daughter. I loved the movie, but not because I was gaga over the young actors. I fell for the story. The plot’s pretty timeless, it just happens to be that the love interests are vampires and wolves. Maybe there are women “cougars” going ape over the actors, but that certainly is representative of alot of moms and 50 plusers going. It’s about the love story itself.

les on November 19, 2009 at 8:49 pm

meant to say “isn’t” representative of alot of moms….

les on November 19, 2009 at 8:59 pm

*sigh*

Why can’t I get an older woman?

Ralph on November 19, 2009 at 9:05 pm

Because you are bi-polar and have a split-personality, Ralph.

Stymie on November 19, 2009 at 9:06 pm

Good grief, they’re only movies. Debbie, you sound so bitter and boorish. What is wrong with enjoying a good love story and a little escapism? It’s offensive for you to group every 30-40-50ish woman into the same category which you like to call “predatory”. I read the books, couldn’t put them down actually, long before I even knew what the movie characters would look like. Now that they have been cast and they happen to be good looking young people doesn’t take away from the fact that to some they are just entertaining love stories. Lighten up for God’s sake, age is just a number.

Kathi on November 19, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    So it’s not ok that 30-40 year old men go gaga if they see a 17 year old girl in a bra, but it’s ok when 30-40 year old women go gaga over a 17 year old dude shirtless?

    Typical hypocrite and a total twlight fangirl.

    Squirrel3D on November 19, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Most movies today are just not worth it, the producers and directors of today have little to no imagination and the dialogue is like listening to any half raised child you meet. However it doesn’t take much to tittlelate with sex and fantasy any airhead would moisten the couch on this crap. Thank God for football season and Married With Children reruns.

seahawker on November 19, 2009 at 9:17 pm

The double standard with women today is really scary. You should check out respecting accuracy in domestic abuse reporting. http://www.mediaradar.org. I share an office with a law firm that engages in some of this feminist law and I have to say these women the way they talk about men is scary sometimes and you really wonder is we can survive as a nation. WOmen rely on lawyers and men in the government and I admit, as a man, I can’t compete with them that they want to use tax dollars to give to women.

Misandry is a real problem in America and this is true among the so called conservatives. Sarah Palin and to be fair I am not too thrilled about Michlle Bachman that she is big on Glenn Beck and the more feminized type man. I don’t know if any real conservative middle age woman with children who is a real conservative would be in politics. Maybe an older woman but not a middle age woman with children. it just doesn’t ring true to me.

In Western culture the family is no longer really considered an entity on it’s own. Sadly, as an accountant, many tax laws regard family matters as purely personal which I don’t know if this is a good thing. The bible counted the Jewish people of males over 20 years and up and mentioned the male head of household which actually was why the original founding fathers felt the head of the household should vote which usually was the man although a widow or any man that couldn’t vote the woman could vote for the household. Single women who owned property also could vote. It is a man’s best interest for his wife to be well more so then a man in the gov’t who see’s another man’s wife as the enemy. One of the 10 commandments is not to be jealous of another man’s wife. Of course AT SOME POINT MEN WHO DIDN’T OWN PROPERTY COULD VOTE and obviously at that point soon everyone should vote as it is discriminatory.
I know feminist as a rule are very racist towards black men and blacks in general because they were able to vote before them.

With some of the extremism going on (as some people claim Sarah Palin is on the extreme right which I think is nonsense but anyway) I think this is something that should be mentioned as I just can’t believe how so many women today really see men in a terrible light and are really emotionally married to the government, male lawyers, and, yes, religious institution that seem to be afraid of men that ask questions and use their analytical skills.

Western societies have ridiculously low birth rates which is made worse by the fact that we have so much technology and are not poor nations. This clearly can’t continue and you wonder what is going to be.

adam on November 19, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Debbie, this is why your website rocks. You can go from Islamic Terrorists to Obama to ‘Cougars’. You are right on this one big time. I see it all the time. Older women are told they are right to have sexual desires of younger men, even though biology says no. This is cheered on because anything empowering women is seen as breaking the ‘oppression of men’. Women on male violence is cheered on by Hollywood. Never the reverse. Not that either should or should not be cheered. But it is only a one way street.

Tempus Fugit has it exactly right. Perpetual adolescence.

The hard facts for women in their 40s or 50s they will reach menopause. The fact that women start producing less estrogen and the testosterone and estrogen levels in the body start to level out is in direct contrast with current ‘cougar’ hysteria. Because of the decrease in estrogen women get more facial hair and loose the softness in their face looking more manly. Whoa, but Hollywood can offend the Hollywood cougars. However many of the Hollywood cougars will take estrogen therapy to capture their fountain of youth. Similar to men taking HGH (Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sylvester Stallone, etc.)

Sarah Palin is playing the Cougar thing to the max. All her interviews are just flirting sessions. I’ve watched her with Vanity and O’Reily and she is working it. She has them blushing and pitching a tent. No wonder she is popular, she is just flirting with America. Men desire her and other women want to be like her. She knows that you don’t have to know much or do much to be President, just look at Obama. It has become a popularity contest.

By the way shouldn’t your article read New Moon Absurdity?

CaliforniaScreaming on November 19, 2009 at 9:44 pm

You guys are taking this waaay too seriously. I’m a 40-something who enjoys the movies (I found the books to be slow) because of the romance. The top fiction sales in this country are romance novels, so tsk tsk for dissing us. I don’t ogle young guys–trust me, I know what a real man is, and it’s not what’s on the screen of this movie series. The appeal is first love, innocence, and the melodrama of youth…something that makes a heart go pitter-pat regardless of age. So BE NICE.

Sally on November 19, 2009 at 9:57 pm

If you’re over 40 and your heart goes pitter-pat, better get an EKG before the Health Care bill passes and you’re prohibited until age 70.

Ralph on November 19, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Has it escaped everyones’ attention that the woman who wrote the books is in her 30’s? The women who enjoy this story (myself included) are hopeless romantics and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Why don’t you direct your venom at people who deserve it like people who sell their 5 year old daughters for drug money?

Kate on November 19, 2009 at 10:11 pm

AMEN Kate… my momma sold me for a Prius.

Ralph on November 19, 2009 at 11:39 pm

I’m a 37 year old mother, who also happens to be a die hard twi-mom, and I’m not ashamed at all. I just saw the movie with 3 other mothers and my mother-in-law and we all loved it!! You feminists need to get a life! You’d be much happier!

Michelle on November 20, 2009 at 12:07 am

Ralph, can you blame her? I’m mean seriously, can you???

Kate on November 20, 2009 at 12:19 am

*sigh*, and I just found out my 40-something sister-in-law (mother of teenage kids) went to this movie tonight, gushing about her favorite character.
Don’t know, don’t wanna know. Bleah.

Michelle on November 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

Kate, you have a good point there. 🙂

Ralph on November 20, 2009 at 12:31 am

Debbie,

I happen to think that you are a bit of a wacko in many ways, and disagree with your method of expressing your opinion, but in this case, you are 100% correct.

It’s freaky, all these old broads who should be telling me to finish my pea’s going all squishy like they were 12 year old girls.

That’s just wrong. I’m of an age, when any woman over 25 knew how to give you the stern mom look that every boy knows (to the detriment of their early sexual endeavors.) Now, they all seem to want to pull down their V necks and have a 20 year old sign their breasts.

Douglas on November 20, 2009 at 1:14 am

Some of my female co-workers-all adult ages-went from Harry Potter a few years ago to Twilight now. They love the stuff, and I didn’t have a clue why until this post. Cougars?
Debbie, there’s an adult alternative rumored to possibly be made into a movie or TV show: The Rachel Morgan ‘Hallows’ series written by Kim Harrison. Well written, tightly plotted, and nary a tweenager in sight. The protagonist, Rachel Morgan is around 28-30. The first book is “Dead Witch Walking”; four of us at work are reading the series. Good stuff.

Douglas Q on November 20, 2009 at 1:20 am

Speaking of films about older women who fall for younger men, if you ever REALLY want to throw up, watch PHAEDRA (1962,) with Melina Mercouri, Anthony Perkins and Raf Vallone. I watched REUNION IN FRANCE, with John Wayne and Joan Crawford, last night. I turned it off in the middle because I was too sleepy to concentrate, but I was surprised, after seeing PAHEDRA, that Jules Dassin can actually direct a watchable movie. For years, I’ve been convinced that ALL his work was lousy.

Miranda Rose Smith on November 20, 2009 at 2:10 am

I love you Ralph. I would never haven given you up for so cheap a prize 🙂

Kate on November 20, 2009 at 2:54 am

To ALL of you nay sayers out there; Ever heard of Jane Eyre? Read any Jane Austen lately? FYI : Your average red-blooded Western woman digs this sh@%! We eat it up! We are hopeless romantics and sadly, genetically hardwired that way! There is nothing you can say or do to make us change our minds so it’s better you jump on board and as my husband has learned, learn to embrace our silly school girl ways and reap the rewards. The alternative? Learn to fall asleep alone without crazy fulling sex! It’s your call.

Kate on November 20, 2009 at 3:06 am

    Dear Kate: Four authors I believe you would enjoy, if you havn’t already: Anne Rivers Siddons, Susan Howatch (who I think should win the Nobel Prize for Literature), Susan Elizabeth Phillips, the late Elizabeth Goudge. Then there’s Margaret Mitchell and Betty Smith, two MORE authors who I think should have won the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    Miranda Rose Smith on November 20, 2009 at 3:19 am

There’s a flaw in your logic. Just because grown women go to see the movie and are crazy over it, doesn’t mean it’s because young men are shirtless in it. Moms are going crazy over Twilight because, guess what, THEY’RE GREAT BOOKS, and, bonus: encourage their daughters to wait to have sex! Whoa, what a novel idea!

heather on November 20, 2009 at 3:11 am

Ever heard of Jane Eyre? Read any Jane Austen lately?

Not in my case, I have a Y chromosome. I think there is a biological law that requires me to not read that stuff, unless I wish to mate with someone else with a Y chromosome.

As for being “romantic.” I think you are using gradeschool girl metrics of what is romantic.

The love of my life says to her friends who don’t get me (I do that on purpose, I want ONLY her to get it.) “You don’t know doug, he says the most beautiful things in the most horrible ways.”

It’s called a dysphemism.

In addition, I sometimes, while expressing my love for her, toss in media references, like, “My soul is empty, and I still can’t find the cup.” which is a reference to “excalibur,” the movie. Arthur, after rejecting Gueneviere lays dying until Galad/galahad delivers him the holy grail. After taking a sip from the cup of christs love, Arthur becomes invigorated and says “never did I know how empty was my soul, until it was filled.”

Another reference I use is “I hoed a field of ashes, and now you plant roses.”

That is to a book, where a man plans to die alone and in violence, but suddenly finds himself in love.

Both sources were written by a man. And I’m a man, and I’m a romantic.

So which men do you know AREN’T romantics?

I know a lot of men, I happen to be one, and in general, the men I know happen to be VERY big fans of romantacism. As long as other men aren’t in sight or hearing distance.

Douglas on November 20, 2009 at 3:28 am

heather? “Immortal beloved” was a BRILLIANT! movie, and the twilight movies suck. Who signed middle aged breasts? Pattinsen or oldman?

Douglas on November 20, 2009 at 3:30 am

As a 40 something woman, I have no problem seeing these movies. I do not have the hots for young men the same age as my own children, nor will I, ever.

I read the books one week while I was ill, they were light, silly, and a guilty pleasure.

The movies are the same, its just a fantasy romance, nothing more. Why impune the motives of all middle age women who may see this movie, not all of us have gutter thoughts on our mind, just having fun with an escapism movie that isn’t deep nor dreary.

I like my men to be men, I don’t need boys and I feel completely secure in that knowledge and will probably see this New Moon movie at some point, never thought about people like the writer of this article insinuating I would be lusting after the boys. Get a life.

Laenie on November 20, 2009 at 5:52 am

wow, I thought I was the only one wondering what was up. I think it is pathetic. I am encouraging my daughter to embrace Light, not darkness. To stay grounded in reality. I dont’ care how nice you make vampires, they are still “vampires”. Two girls in my son’s class insist they are vampires. This can’t be healthy. I swear they think they will meet a nice vampire someday. And yes, their moms went with them to the midnight show last night. Ick.

Diana on November 20, 2009 at 8:27 am

What bugs me most about the older women who seem to like these books is that the relationships in the Twilight series are so obviously abusive and manipulative, and yet they don’t see it. In some ways I can understand teenagers not understanding that, but when you’re in your thirties and forties, I’d hope they’d be mature enough to see that the relationships in the book are hardly romantic, especially when the lead male *cuts the freaking brakes on her car* to keep her from her friends. Hello!

ern on November 20, 2009 at 8:31 am

I read the books, poorly written for sure, but I was thrilled my daughter read them cover to cover. The movies are perfect for this female Harry Potter generation, they get the guy, what’s so wrong with that? But yes, the mom fans creep me out. I will see the movie (no screaming though) and tho I may pine for my youth, I will be seriously grossed out by those moms you describe. My very handsome 20 yr old son is stalked on Facebook by moms, neighbors and his friend’s moms. They say he looks like Jacob. From 27 to 60 these women totally flirt with him, I am really amazed and he is the one who is grossed out. I tell him all the time, cougars are dangerous animals!

mimi on November 20, 2009 at 8:34 am

I am only 26…and still when I see these boys trouncing around with no shirts on, I just want to put a warm sweater over them. It is sad that so many women have lost their nurturing instinct and have replaced with a selfish, predator instinct.

C on November 20, 2009 at 8:50 am

It shows the dumbing down of the world when this topic gets bigger numbers or comments than important topics discussed. Where the hell are all of these people when a judge is letting a dangerous islamic criminal, terrorist free?

Reminds me of all the numb skulls I know that are slaves to fantasy football and don’t know who Eric Holder is.

Joe on November 20, 2009 at 9:18 am

Debbie, this is why you are such a magnificent babe. A hot blonde who hates DOprah and sissyfied men, I’m in love!!!! Us guys, make that real men, need much more fabulous ladies like you.

I haven’t seen these movies just on seeing the sissy vampire guy Edworm or whatever his name is. We need the good ole vampire movies like the classic, “Embrace of the Vampire”!!!!…Vavooooom. Or, “From Dusk to Dawn” or “Dracula the Dirty Old Man. What happened to the movies with vampires biting hot babes and putting them under his spell? And, what kind of vampire runs around shirtless? Sissy vampires aren’t cool.

Speaking of, what’s this big fascination with vampires in the first place?

Jeff_W on November 20, 2009 at 9:24 am

And yet all those fools somehow managed to put down the Twilight books long enough to vote for Oba-Mao 72 times.

Dont Tread On Me on November 20, 2009 at 9:31 am

“Well, I’m not into either Twilight or New Moon, and I prefer men 5-10 years either side of my age (48), but way I see it, it’s their business if older women want to see such movies and admire a younger male actor. It’s only a movie. How come a man can admire younger female actress and models and dancers and what not and that’s ok, but if it’s the other way around then it’s “predatory?”

Sabrina on November 19, 2009 at 6:52 pm”
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So what about when a male teacher has sex with a female student and is called a PERVERT! But when a Female teacher has sex with a male student it is called “love” or it is called “cool!”

Ken Blazek on November 20, 2009 at 9:31 am

    Wow, Ken, talk about taking things out of context! NEVER did I see it was ok for a teacher to date a students, regardless of gender! That is wrong, no matter what. We’re talking about FICTICIOUS CHARACTERS and actors here. Geez. I still saywho cares if a 40 or 50 year old woman likes the New Moon stuff? That’s her business, not mine. Each to their own tastes. Calling a woman a “cougar” for dating a younger man is still a negative value judgment, a way of showing disapproval and attempting to “control” what the woman does. There is no corresponding derogatory and condemning phrases for a man who is say, 40 something who is dating or married to a woman in her 20s…and gawd knows there are plenty such couples out there. As long as all parties are over 18 and consenting, then it’s NO ONES FREAKING BUSINESS!

    Sabrina on November 20, 2009 at 10:13 am

“I love you Ralph. I would never haven given you up for so cheap a prize”

I’m jealous! 🙂

Stymie on November 20, 2009 at 9:41 am

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