By this time, the Europeans should know that this Islamic violence is about more than Israel. As far as appeasing Islamic violence though, the sad truth is that our own government is as bad as that of Denmark if not worse. As I said in an earlier, the Muslims are rapidly taking advantage of the West’s inablility to unite against a common enemy, just like they did centuries ago. The problem is when people say “Europe had it coming.” Well, they won’t be saying that when there is no more Europe. The truth is, no matter how bad Europe has gotten it’s still exremely important in this clash of civilizations. And there are plenty of Europeans who understand that they are under siege. But their own governments are too weak to do anything about it, and thanks to people like Condi who are too stupid to see this war for what it is (not to mention fifth columns), so is ours. It would be a disaster both morally and strategically to leave them stranded to die.
THEY *SHOULD* KNOW IT’S ABOUT MORE THAN ISRAEL, BUT THEY DON’T. AND THEY CONTINUE TO CONDEMN ISRAEL FOR RESPONDING TO EXTREMISTS AND MURDERERS IN A MUCH WEAKER WAY THAN THEY, THEMSELVES, WOULD LIKELY RESPOND. THEY HAVE LEARNED NOTHING.
WHEN THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE BECOME COMPLETELY DOMINATED BY ISLAM, IT WILL BE TOO LATE. THAT’S COMING VERY, VERY SOON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

KnightoftheImpaler on February 10, 2006 at 3:01 pm

Another good article Debbie!Keep up the good work.Something that has been overlooked in the media is that those same Mohammed cartoons were printed in an Eqyptian newspaper last Oct,2005.Here is a link.
http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

Chiefscotty24 on February 10, 2006 at 3:41 pm

WHEN THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE BECOME COMPLETELY DOMINATED BY ISLAM, IT WILL BE TOO LATE. THAT’S COMING VERY, VERY SOON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL
I dont think so. Europeans will start roasting the ovens again if they felt that they were going to lose Europe to the Muslims.
This is a continent which just 50 years back killed over 25 million people!
The Far Right parties are slowly making inroads. The Danish Far Right party actually won 13% of the Parliamentary seats. La Penn is on the rise in France. He won another 20% votes. In Austria, Haider has made a very strong showing as well.
I believe if the Muslims start assimilating, it will only delay their fate.
The European Jews were completely assimilated in Europe, and assimilation can only help you as much.

lawman on February 10, 2006 at 3:41 pm

Whilst i LUV those cheese Danishes…you KNOW i’ll follow YOUR lead mine jodykin…but for all the unelightened goyim out there—let’s NOT pretend that y’all are “christians”— http://www.xanga.com/NYCJOYCE/440321746/item.html?nextdate=953647696&direction=n#953647696

EminemsRevenge on February 10, 2006 at 3:44 pm

Those who refuse to assimilate and would rather destroy a continent that has welcomed them with open arms are the ones who ought to be compared to the Nazis. I’m not defending Le Pen’s anti-Semitic statements, but he’s not the one behind all the attacks on Jews. Few people anywhere else outside of France actually like him, but while his nasty personality and habit of running his mouth prevent him from being a reliable leader, the fact is he raises important issues that others are afraid to. People like him are convenient scapegoats for the real problems in Europe.

KnightoftheImpaler on February 10, 2006 at 3:53 pm

KnightoftheImpaler:
Do you believe that bad things only happen to people in Europe who refuse to assimilate and want to destroy the continent?
A thousand year history and all the way upto Milosevic in the 90s, we have seen again and again that bad shit happens on this continent.

lawman on February 10, 2006 at 4:16 pm

No, but people only focus on bad things in Europe and make it out to be this barbaric continent, as if the Muslim world was a shining example of enlightenment. If enlightenment is basing your society on what was basically a brothel, castrating African slaves, routinely commiting massacres often for no strategic reason, and enslaving young Christian boys to be sodomized and forced into your army. Compared to the Ottoman Empire, Milosevic was an angel.
But as far as Europe falling to Islam, well that would pretty much spell doom for the entire West. But an underrated region is Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe is known as a very corrupt place, but as far as weakness in the face of the Islamist menace it’s comparatively uncorrupted. By comparatively I mean compared to Western Europe, the United States, and possibly even Israel the way things are going out there. Eastern Europe is getting much better economically and especially militarily but not at a fast enough rate to save Europe, at least not at this point. Plus, it’s been so marginalized and demonized (well not by Reagan, who would have never stood for Clinton’s attacks if he had been well) that a lot of people still consider it almost “exotic.”

KnightoftheImpaler on February 10, 2006 at 5:07 pm

Here’s the problem I have with Debbie’s view of Denmark though.
-Their leaders have been weak about Islamic terror. Well okay, but look at the stuff you report on Debbie. It’s all across the board, not just in Europe.
-Their media routinely attacks and blames Israel. But, you ever watch CNN?
-They’ve given money to the Palestinians. So has our government.
-The Danes just don’t get it about the Islamist threat. Look around you. Tell me our own country is not swarming with appeasers too.
Can Denmark and other European countries be accused of all these things to a greater extent than America (minus Detroit) can? In many cases yes. But they are not an enemy just because they have pneumonia and we only have a particularly bad flu.
SO WHAT YOU’VE BASICALLY SAID IS THAT TWO WRONGS MAKE A RIGHT–ONLY YOU’VE MANAGED TO SAY IT IN A FAR MORE ABSURD WAY. AND ALL OF THE EXAMPLES YOU’VE USED DON’T COME CLOSE TO BEING AS BAD AS WHAT THE DANES HAVE DONE. IT’S LIKE SAYING, WELL, GERMANY HAD NAZIS, BUT . . . .
YOU ARE COMPARING CNN TO DANISH TV?! PUH-LEEZE. CNN IS VERY BAD, BUT DANISH TV IS FAR, FAR WORSE. DENMARK HAS BEEN FAR, FAR WORSE ON THE PALESTINIAN ISSUE, WHICH YOU’D GET, IF YOU ACTUALLY BOTHERED TO READ THE POST TO WHICH YOU ARE RESPONDING OR FOLLOWED THE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES AND THEIR BEHAVIOR ON THIS ISSUE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES. SURE DOESN’T SOUND LIKE IT.
YOU ARE JUSTIFYING A COUNTRY WILLINGLY INFESTED BY FULL-BLOWN AIDS (DENMARK) TO ONE WITH AN STD (USA).
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

KnightoftheImpaler on February 10, 2006 at 5:29 pm

Debbie,
You’re one of my heros. I understand your point. I think there is has been anti-zionism in Denmark. It’s the kind of brain-dead, Euro-liberal, we’re not like America, anti-zionism we get from much of Europe. If you go back a little further historically, however, the Danes were one of the few, the very few, in Europe to save their Jewish population.
Let’s hope that this is a moment of clarity in Denmark – Jews are an essential part of Western civilization, Islam will destroy Western civilization. They must choose. I think the Danes will choose wisely. As for the rest of Europe – I believe they will be substantially under Sharia law in this decade.
I support Israel, and I support Denmark, and of course – I remain a loyal member of the DS fan club.
YOU THINK THE DANES “WILL CHOOSE WISELY”? THEN YOU REALLY DIDN’T READ THIS ENTRY. THEY WERE GOING TO CANCEL THE SOCCER EXHIBITION TO PLEASE MUSLIMS, AND ONLY DIDN’T BECAUSE OF THE OUTCRY (SINCE THEY NO LONGER CAN RELY ON THEIR CAREFULLY CULTIVATED ARAB & MUSLIM ALLIES; OTHERWISE THEY’D HAVE CANCELLED). JYLLANDS POSTEN ALREADY SUSPENDED THE ARTS EDITOR WHO PUBLISHED THE CARTOONS. IF YOU SUPPORT DENMARK, THEN YOU DO NOT SUPPORT ISRAEL OR ANYONE OPPOSED TO EXTREMIST ISLAM. THIS IS ONE EDITOR, AND HE WANTED TO PUBLISH HOLOCAUST CARTOONS, TOO, BUT WAS SUSPENDED. AND BTW, I DON’T CARE WHAT THEY DID DURING THE HOLOCAUST, JUST LIKE I DON’T CARE THAT STEVEN SPIELBERG MADE “SCHINDLER’S LIST.” THAT DOESN’T JUSTIFY WHAT THEY ARE NOW DOING AGAINST ISRAEL AND IN FAVOR OF EXTREMIST MUSLIMS THEY’VE WELCOMED INTO THEIR COUNTRY. ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THAT IT DOES HAS A DISTORTED SENSE OF REALITY.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Ground State on February 10, 2006 at 5:41 pm

Ground State said “Jews are an essential part of Western Civilization.” On that, and on Islam being a natural enemy of Western Civilization, I agree. But the continent of Europe is an essential part of Western Civilization too. If, God forbid, either one of them should fall to Islam, the other will quckly follow. That would leave only a stranded United States. So the protection of Israel and the liberation of Europe should be the key points of focus in this clash of civilizations.

KnightoftheImpaler on February 10, 2006 at 8:16 pm

Debbie, M’Dear, for once I disagree with you.
Though I understand fully where you’re coming from.
For one thing, thanks to the ineptness of Israel’s government and its willingness to temporize and compromise with Palestinian terrorism, Israel has very little room to point fingers at Denmark or anyone else at this stage of the game.
When Israel releases $50M to Hamas, and that ass Olmert temporizes about working with Abbas even as Abbas is taking orders from his new masters Hamas, can Israel really complain if other countries take this as a sign of business as usual? Britain, Russia and now France have already signified that it’s business as usual with Hamas.
G-d help Israel if they elect a clown like Olmert to run the country.
Second,let’s face it.This is a war to the finish, and some have realized it later than others. You could also have mentioned that one of Denmark’s biggest unions had a de facto boycott on Israel.
That was then, this is now.
We can have the perverse joy of saying `I told you so’ which accomplishes NOTHING, or we can stand in solidarity with the latest victims, thus proving that they were a wee bit mistaken about all that solidarity with their Islamic pals and bringing them in on our side.
This war needs allies, Debbie. All it can get,in view of what I can best call `the enemy
within’ both here and in Europe.
Denmark, FYI, has troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And they have been instrumental in rounding up some pretty nasty Islamofacists.
The Danes were hit with `sympathy’ rioting during le Jihad Francais, and part of this latest flap is a consequence against the Dane’s strong stance on terrorism and curtailing Islamic immigration. Check out what their Queen had to say about Islam sometime.
Aside from that, we Jews owe them a major debt for their heroic conduct in WWII. As Honorary Aryans, the Danes could have looked the other way, like the French did and gotten a free ride.
Instead, virtually the entire country from King Christian on down collaborated to save its Jews
and ship them to Sweden, right under the nose of Hitler’s occupying army.
As dark as it looks, don’t count Europe out yet.
The tide is just at the point of turning, mark my words. And given a choice between fighting for their homes and their freedom or abject slavery and dhimmitude, many Europeans will fight.
As for the Danes, I’m not going to bash them for their past mistakes IF they show they’ve learned something, and most of the polls and feedback seem to indicate that they have.
Instead, I’ll hoist a Carlberg or an akivat in their honor and say `welcome’!
HELLO? . . . ANYONE IN THERE? . . . DID YOU READ A THING I WROTE BEFORE WRITING? APPARENTLY NOT.
BESIDES THE ABSURDITY OF YOUR POST–WHAT OLMERT’S RELEASE OF MONEY TO HAMAS HAS TO DO WITH ALL OF DENMARK’S OUTRAGEOUS ACTIONS I MENTIONED IS BEYOND ME (AND YOU, TOO, BUT YOU RAISED IT ANYWAY). THIS IS NOT ABOUT “I TOLD YOU SO,” IT’S ABOUT THE HYPOCRISY AND IDIOCY OF DENMARK THAT CONTINUES TO DATE. AGAIN, YOU APPARENTLY DIDN’T READ A THING I WROTE. DOES IT NOT BOTHER YOU THAT UNTIL MUCH PROTEST THURSDAY, DENMARK ANNOUNCED WEDNESDAY IT WOULD CANCEL A SOCCER EXHIBITION IN ISRAEL TO PLEASE MUSLIMS? THIS IS YOUR “FIGHT TO THE FINISH”?! HELLO? . . . .
DENMARK HASN’T ROUNDED UP ANY ISLAMOFASCISTS. THEY’VE CELEBRATED THEM. ONE NEWSPAPER ARTS EDITOR PUBLISHES SOME CARTOONS, AND SUDDENLY YOU’VE BECOME BLIND TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. (I MENTIONED THE BOYCOTT YOU CLAIM I DIDN’T, BUT YOU, AGAIN, DIDN’T READ WHAT I WROTE.)
I OWE THE DANES NOTHING. YOU ARE JUST LIKE SPIELBERG AND THE OTHER LEFTISTS. YOU REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST, BUT CARE NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY-THE DANES-ARE DOING TO JEWS AND ISRAEL–AND ANY COUNTRY FIGHTING ISLAMOFASCISM TO ANY DEGREE, NOW.
I AM NOT ISRAEL AND CAN AND WILL POINT FINGERS WHERE THEY DESERVE TO BE POINTED–INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY AT DENMARK, WHICH IS ONLY GETTING SOME OF ITS JUST DESSERTS. ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH WHAT YOU WROTE HAS ALSO JOINED THE “CLOWN CLUB” ALONG WITH OHLMERT. WHO DO YOU THINK FORCED THEM TO RELEASE THE MONEY TO HAMAS? THE U.S.A. BUT AGAIN, THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC, WHICH IS, SINCE YOU DIDN’T READ IT: DENMARK IS NO HERO AND IS GETTING POETIC JUSTICE.
FINALLY, WHO CARES WHAT THE DANISH QUEEN SAYS ABOUT ISLAM? SHE IS A FIGUREHEAD AND MAKES NO LAW. THE REAL DANISH LEADERS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, DON’T AGREE WITH HER. THEY LOVE EXTREMIST ISLAM. THIS IS WITH WHOM YOU WANT TO ALLY YOURSELF? WHAT WAR? GET A CLUE.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Freedom Fighter on February 10, 2006 at 9:15 pm

Well spoken Freedom Fighter. After reading Debbie’s entry I felt a bit uncomfortable when I still felt solidarity with Denmark. You however convinced me not to feel this way. Foreign policies can sometimes change on a dime in this era and perhaps Denamrk is changing theirs. Aborting a soccer match seems abit odd however.
At any rate at at 33, I think I’ll now go out and buy some Legos to show my support of Denmark.
I dont need any more cheese…
YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IF YOU FEEL SOLIDARITY WITH DENMARK. READ MY RESPONSE TO “FREEDOM FIGHTER.” AND DON’T BUY A DAMN THING FROM THAT COUNTRY.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Avatar on February 10, 2006 at 11:31 pm

If you read the quotes from Danish citizens, you’ll see a common reflective theme by the Danes, essentially, “I’ve seen American flags burned, but this is different…blah blah blah.”
The Danes have been like the kids in elementary who sit quietly while school bullys pick on other kids. As long as it isn’t them getting picked on, they don’t care.
They don’t deserve any support. I took on my share of bullies in school and always let a few punches get away from me into the crowd. People I don’t know have stuck up for me and I do the same for them. It takes ten times the courage to break from the crowd and stand-up for what’s right.
RIGHT ON!
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

code7 on February 11, 2006 at 2:09 pm

The thing about the Danes is in their culture, they are generally peaceful and have a hard time believing people like this exist. That’s different than say Romania, where they see conflict as a normal part of life. I’m proud to say that wherever America goes my mother country goes, and that she is renowned for making the best firearms in Eatern Europe.
NO OFFENSE, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IDIOTIC COMMENTS I’VE READ THIS WEEK. IT’S LIKE: THE THING ABOUT THE GERMANS DURING WWII IS IN THEIR CULTURE, THEY ARE GENERALLY FOR PERFECTION AND HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING NON-ARYANS LIKE JEWS AND GYPSIES WHO LOOK DIFFERENT EXIST. HELLO?. . . DO YOU KNOW A THING ABOUT DENMARK? THEY HAVE A TON OF EXTREMIST MUSLIMS IN THEIR MIDST, THAT THEY WELCOMED THERE, THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. YET, YOU THINK THEY DON’T KNOW THEY EXIST?! HELLO? . . . . DENMARK WILLINGLY CHOSE TO–AND CONTINUES TO–SUPPORT RADICAL ISLAM. THIS ONE EDITOR WHO PUBLISHED THE CARTOONS IS AN ABERRATION, AND HE WAS JUST SUSPENDED BY JYLLANDS POSTEN, FYI. LEARN A LITTLE ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND THE SITUATION BEFORE YOU MAKE SUCH ABSURD COMMENTS.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

KnightoftheImpaler on February 11, 2006 at 2:26 pm

WHEN THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE BECOME COMPLETELY DOMINATED BY ISLAM, IT WILL BE TOO LATE. THAT’S COMING VERY, VERY SOON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL
I dont think so. Europeans will start roasting the ovens again if they felt that they were going to lose Europe to the Muslims.
This is a continent which just 50 years back killed over 25 million people!
The Far Right parties are slowly making inroads. The Danish Far Right party actually won 13% of the Parliamentary seats. La Penn is on the rise in France. He won another 20% votes. In Austria, Haider has made a very strong showing as well.
I believe if the Muslims start assimilating, it will only delay their fate.
The European Jews were completely assimilated in Europe, and assimilation can only help you as much.
I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESMENT VS. DEBBIE’S EXCEPT THAT IT DOES AGREE WITH ONE THING DEBBIE DID SAY, WHICH IS THAT THE RESPONSE ISRAEL GIVES IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT EUROPE WOULD/WILL GIVE WHEN AN “ISLAMIC TAKEOVER” APPEARS IMMINENT (Deb, sorry for the caps, needed to distinguish)

hairymon on February 12, 2006 at 11:46 am

Allow me to put everything into perspective.
If an entire generation were to be denied the privations and horrors of total war, then they would be rendered helpless to the point of appeasement in face of confrontation.
Likewise, if this generation were to be poisoned by a certain ideology or hatred, they would latch onto a group that would share that view, even though the group is hostile to the generation in question.
This is not a simple case of Zionism or terrorism or Islam (“radical”, “moderate” – read the whole freaking Koran). This is all about the Jews.
Forget “Schindler’s List”: to me, Steven Spielberg has romanticised an opportunistic war-profiteer who used Jews as cheap labour as a way of maximising profits, not out of humaitarian concerns. So much for the noble Nazi, eh?
Forget Danish bravery in the face of Nazis: like all other captive nations, the Danes had sent their own volunteers to fight alogside various Waffen-SS units (see this link at http://www.milhist.dk/besattelsen/frikorps/frikorps.html). After all, Danes were considered by the Nazis as their ethnic brethren. The rescue of the country’s Jews may be viewed by cynics as a way of making Denmark “Judenrein” without the lethal aftereffects.
I believe that, all things considered, anti-Semitism has reared it’s ugly head. While the WWII generation dies off, their descendants may have forgotten the evils that had temporarily stunned the world. Of course, the Islamists carried on as per usual (check out this link: http://www.israpundit.com/archives/2005/01/with_the_upcomi.php). Sadly, they’re in danger of fully believing that Shoah never happened.
Although I firmly believe that Jyllands-Posten has a right to publish the charicatures of Muhammed, and that the Islamists have been overreacting, I cannot commit myself to buying Danish products as a form of solidarity – I still have to see a “Buy Israeli” or “Buy Jewish” campaign on the go. But short of starting a new series of Crusades, Inquisitions and mass conversions, what is there to do, especially when dealing with the “war-free” generation?
Debbie: you can boycott all you want, but what use is it when there is no follow-up action? Other conservative blogs seem to sympathise with the Danes and have been encouraging people to “Buy Danish”. I’m quite sure you’ll have you hands full trying to counter that campaign.
But as I have said before, you’re dealing with a generation that was, in general denied the experience of conflict. What can be done and how? Aside from pre-emptive strikes, I’ve run out of ideas. What about you?
Cheers.

Y-2-DRAY on February 12, 2006 at 8:27 pm

Was I defending the Danish mentality? I think I was just pointing it out. What we still have a lot of in America is money and influence. Of course it’s true that they’ve gotten themselves into this mess. They welcome a poisonous snake into their bed and wonder why they get bitten. But would you rather have stupid and weak people in the world or an Islamic satellite country? I think if they’re in a situation like this and they see American support on one hand and being stranded to die in another, they will be swayed to change their ways. That depends on whether they’re stubborn in their idiotic ways or just not very strong minded. If it’s the first one, then to put it bluntly, screw them. But if it’s the second one, then with our help they will catch on to this mess just as quickly as they’ve gotten themselves into it.
As far as your dismissal of my comments about their culture, I think the biggest mistake people make here is not understanding the varying cultures (including what can be called political cultures) there and deciding which ones have more danger of falling to Islamization and which ones have more of a potential to fight it. Scandinavia is very much a socialist, welfare, welcome-anyone-in kind of culture, particularly Denmark. There and in many other Western European countries, that mentality has gone unchecked and contributed to a potential Islamic takeover. But that mentality is part of a liberal streak that runs in many Western European cultures, simply taken way too far. As far as the Nazis, their ways certainly did indeed play into a deeply-embedded aspect of German political culture and warp it into something entirely evil. Europe as a whole is known for a lot of things, balance isn’t exactly one of them. In looking at this situation today, that needs to be taken into account.

KnightoftheImpaler on February 12, 2006 at 9:07 pm

Hi there!
As a Dane, I would be glad if you would share your point of view on the ongoing saga in the middle east (Iraq / Afghanistan).
Later this week, about 150 soldiers from a Danish Regiment, will ship out to join the coalition forces in Iraq – led by America and Britain.
Since 99% of the population in these countries consists of muslim, one could suggest that we are doing good in the wrong place. Are we really interested in “enforcing” democracy onto these countries?
Denmark have, for a long while (50 years or so), been a country of do-gooders – generated by the fact that we never had to participate in any conflict anywhere.
That has changed.
Being a Dane, standing in the middle of things, I recent being compared to either radical Islamists or rightwingers claiming war on the Muslims.
When I see fundamentalists burning western flags in Gaza I dream of stuffing porkchops down their throats, while drinking serious amounts of booze but also, when I see or hear of people who are claiming it’s not their business that Denmark is in deep s**t right now, and that we (Denmark)have to solve this ourselves, I’m apalled as well.
Thanks

Spirit on February 13, 2006 at 5:04 am

Norway and Sweden have been far worse (not that that should mean anything in terms of Denmark). In Norway some liberal papers actually blamed Norwegian women for dressing provacatively for incurring rapes by Muslims! In Sweden the third largest city, Malvo – crime (Muslim crime that is) is so bad that whole neighborhoods are virtually “no go” areas for the Swedish police. In a perfect world Israel would be geographicaly located where Scandinavia is now and Scandinavia would have Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and “Palestine” as neighbors.

Ripper on February 13, 2006 at 8:56 am

First of all, where is the mass outrage from Susan Sarandon, Richard Gere, George Looney, Babwa Streisand and all the other Hollywood lefties over freedom of speech over the cartoons? If Christians were doing this the usual liberals would be screaming bloody murder. This is why Hollywood lefties are the stupidest people on earth, because if the Islamo radicals took over this country the Hollywood jerks would be the first necks on the chopping block.
Well, Spririt, Denmark got themselves into this, let them get themselves out as far as I’m concerned. Why aren’t they responsible for their actions? Denmark and all of Europe doesn’t need America to tell them to act responsibly, just do it because it’s right.
Seeing all this reaction from the Islamic radicals to these cartoons, along with everything else like 9/11, I don’t see how any sane person can disagree with declaring war on these freaks.

The_Man on February 13, 2006 at 12:54 pm

Can I just, as a Dane, point out a few things?
You slam our media for being pro-palestinian and anti-Israel. That may or may not be true, but it’s just puzzling that Danish media is reknowned for being among the most unbiased media in the world…
When it comes to Israel, I don’t think most people are “anti”-Israel, we’re just tired of Israel wanting to “have its cake and eating it too”. If they could only decide what they wanted to do, which it would appear they’ve finally done, we’d be mighty thankful.
About the football/soccer match, I believe they said it was due to security concerns? Not because they wanted to “hurt” Israel? I suppose you are aware that other Danish athletes have cancelled participation in competitions in the muslim world for the same reason?
As for our flag burning… I doubt most people have much of a problem with it. I mean, it’s what they do in the muslim world… Hardly an insult by todays standards. Ofcourse some people feel hurt(since the holy cross is part of the Danish flag, people who feel hurt don’t necessarily do so because the Danish flag is burning but because the cross is), but it’s not something we think about 24/7.
Bah. I wish I had more time. Suffice to say, you don’t wanna support the “buy Danish” campaign, feel free not to. It’s only 2% of our total export that goes to muslim nation, so it’s hardly a big blow if they all boycott us…
Have a nice evening/day

DanishDynamite on February 13, 2006 at 1:52 pm

I thought I had heard it all…..!
Debbie – I hope you take a break sometimes and come up for a breather and some REFLECTION – because you just dont get it. Do you really think that friends and allies can take the same stand on each and every issue that pops up – big or small. We may share the same ideals overall but we are not f….. clones!
Of course we in Denmark reserve the right to tell our friends when we disagree with their way of doing things. That does not mean that we are enemies. It means that we think it is WORTHWHILE voicing our opinion or protests. As far as our enemies are concerned our words are mostly a wasted effort, so in stead we ACT. Usually TOGETHER with our allies.
That is how a small nation HAS to operate, and you, Debbie, being an expert on Israel, SHOULD KNOW THAT!
Everyone seems to have smartass comments about the “cartoon war” – pro or con DK, but precious few have BOTHERED to check the background and the facts surrounding it. That would require you to focus your collective intellectual capabilities on just ONE THING for more than the obligatory 30 seconds – somthing unheard of in this day and age!
Fortunately the governments of the civilized world, (also counting Israel, in case you wonder..) have a completely different approach to crisis management than do you, Debbie.
If we were to follow your example, behaving like a sulking child, Denmark would be using its seat in the UN security counsil to try to get back at USA and UK in the Iran nuclear dispute – and believe me – that would be a major pain in the ass for both USA, UK – and Israel. But Denmark will not do that FOR WE ARE NOT ASSHOLES! We know who our friends are and we have always been there for them when it mattered – EVEN if we are small and risk getting smacked about when the big guys move.
So by all means, Debbie, DONT buy Danish, but do it for the right reasons – because Danish Buttercookies makes you want to projectile vomit (my opinion), or because you think B&O Stereos are grossly overpriced, or fat Danish Havarti cheese stop your bowel-movements. But dont give me all that crap about how Denmark “is unfriendly towards Israel” on a few issues and therefore fully qualifies for a (permanent) dip in the latrine NO MATTER WHAT.
The whole purpose of freedom of speach is that noone is safe from critizism – not the howling sandmonkeys, not the “dhimmies”, not George Bush – and certainly not you DEBBIE!
…aahh, that cleared my sinuses… 🙂
best rgds,
Carsten

cfodk on February 13, 2006 at 2:39 pm

thanks for being THE only voice to tell the Danes how we Israelis felt when they stood and cheered the arab side. Danes deserve to be where they are now, and feel a bit of what they have done. Before they fall, I’ll give them a hand. Till then, let them enjoy their own stew…I’m NOT buying Danish…….you shouldn’t, too.

yadid on February 13, 2006 at 3:23 pm

Yadid; As you know Debbie S. is the best when it comes to Israel.But for a true learning experience .Pay attention to alot of the ass-bites that come this site,it’s eye opening.She’s one of the only, that truly knows there is no gray area.

danny on February 13, 2006 at 4:11 pm

Well – I’m actually not concerned about the boycott but – apparently – a lot of people have issues with Denmark over previous matters and it seems like this crisis, is a welcomed opportunity to “get even”.
So be it.
Denmark will get through this – one way or another – and I for one couldn’t imagine the morning ritual without my freshly squeezed oranges from Florida – no matter what.

Spirit on February 14, 2006 at 4:58 am

I think that many Americans support Denmark because they don’t know about Denmark’s history vis-a-vis the Palestinians. Additionally, the Danes are showing at least a hint of spine in response to the threats made against them by the crazed immams (which is more than the Spanish did). Most importantly, I think we’re seeing something like “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” at work: Denmark has suddenly found itself in the islamofascist crosshairs, and many Americans naturally support them.
As a parallel, recall the US attitude toward the Soviet Union during World War II, when that bloodthirsty killer Stalin suddenly became “Uncle Joe” and American newsreels portrayed the peace-loving, democractic (!) Soviet people in a heroic fight against the bloodthirsty, barbaric nazis. Never mind that the Sovs had a track record of aggression almost as bad as Hitler’s, and indeed had only recently finished an aggressive war against Finland. They were in the fight against Hitler, so that made them our pals.
Natch, I’m not trying to suggest that Denmark is anything like the USSR; they are a peaceful nation, democratic, and have been our friends since World War II. I hope that they are waking up to the threat that they face. As long as they stand up for the same freedoms that we Americans cherish, then I’m with them.
A shot of Fris, anyone?

docjim505 on February 14, 2006 at 9:29 am

Hi Debbie,
This thread is fairly thermonuclear with passionate posts. I’ve got my asbestos poster’s suit on and will risk being flamed. First of all, your statement
WHEN THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE BECOME COMPLETELY DOMINATED BY ISLAM, IT WILL BE TOO LATE. THAT’S COMING VERY, VERY SOON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL
points to a fate I just do not see succeeding in Europe – attempted, definitely. Yes, the anti-Israel, appeasement monkeys still run the assylum, but I think the inmates have just had a rude awakening (or sure as hell hope so). Many countries have elected more conservative govenrments and are attempting to deal with the unmittigated disaster Islamic immigration is. Denmark has behaved poorly toward Israel, but less so than Norway, Sweden, or France. Denmark is not monolithic, and many Danes wish to see the Islamists deported. Will they do it? Who knows. What is more important is what England, France, and most important, Germany, do. All are rethinking their idiotic immigration policies and deporting (ridiculously few) Islamonazis. Yes, Europe has screwed Israel at almost every opportunity and practiced appeasement ala Neville Chamberlain toward the Islamonazis. Much of Europe is profoundly antisemitic and always has been. I cannot see England, France, and Germany being overwhelmed by 7’th century Islamonazis. I see Europe becoming increasingly anti-Islamic in the face of violence. Only time will tell. Give Denmark a break. They are American allies, whatever their past sins and faults.

Mark McGilvray on February 14, 2006 at 5:19 pm

I’m sorry to hear that you feel this way about Denmark.
I’m sorry that my brother was wounded in Afghanistan as a Danish Nato soldier defending the US. I’m sorry that my father was in Basra Iraq with the UK troops. I’m sorry Denmark had a left government in 2001. I’m sorry some of our medias and journalist sucks big time. I’m sorry that most of Danish relief workers are lefties.
But to say that most of the Danish people don’t support US and Denmark hasn’t answered US calls for assistant when they were in trouble, thatís just plain stupid. Michael More is US citizen and so are Jane Fonda alias Saigon Jane, but that does not make the entire US people idiots and traitors.
Well I don’t ask for your support and don’t expect it.
But I will still support US and Nato, even if their support on government level towards Denmark has been limited. Why? Because I know in my heart that most of the people of the US are dissent and good.
Well, action speaks louder than words. As a member of the Danish army reserves I’m of to Iraq in 1 month from now.
Holger

Holger Danske on February 14, 2006 at 6:51 pm

I wrote about the same thing today. fantastic, I am just glad someone else out there has noticed such.

Tovya@ZionReport.com on February 19, 2006 at 9:42 pm

Debbie Debbie Debbie ….. The soccer match was supposed to be cancelled due to the raised threat level towards danish citizens in the middle eastern world, however, because the Israeli government has guaranteed the players safety, it will be played.
The game, however will be more of an “ah well whatever” event, since the players are feeling unsafe in your part of the world as of now. Most of the usual players are not even going to play.
Denmark hosts tons of muslim radicals ? Funny, let’s say denmark hosts about 200.000 muslim immigrants (which we don’t, cause we have other tyupes of immigrants as well, not just muslim ones), certainly some of them would be radicals, in a room of 25 people, you are bound to find a rabid radical of any ethnic origin.
In Denmark, people who are being accused of having done a crime, will get put to justice, so when an Israeli gets reported to the police, the District Attorney usually gets the task to investigate matters, in the case of foreigners, they usually gets put in lockup, cause of flight risk.. Why should that be anything different for an Israeli, than a Swede, or a dutch ?
We, the people of the free world are – to be quite honest – piss tired of being accused of anti this and that, just because you don’t get your way, the way you want it.
As to Denmark not being staunch supporters of war against terror… I think you should try to look up the main contributers to that socalled war.
Granted, the public opinion about the war on terror is and has been, that we really shouldn’t be there, especially because most if not all of the pretenses and reasons for it has been false..
You’re claiming that a supposedly derogatory and false documentary, made by journalists in denmark, is part your reason for your crusade … S E R I O U S L Y …. This is different from the cartoons in what way ? Aren’t you now just a radical jew, who tries to go on a crusade against a country, for something its people have no control over, the law in denmark allows journalists to publish whateve they want, for whatever the reason they want. Yet now you condemn 5 million people for something a team of 4-5 people create … dolt i say, dolt….
I could go on in the hope of you daring to publish this on the site, but since there’s little chance, i wont

spoof on February 27, 2006 at 7:11 am