I completly agree with everything you pointed out. Coming from a military backgraound in the USAF, Security Specialist Field and having a secret clearance and being a current police detective gathering gang inteligence, it is beyond my comprhension how this man could work for the Navy as a contractor w/ a dishonerable discharge. I am eager and interested to learn more. The criminals, crazies and crusaders are what terrorist are. We need to take national security seriously. Not by disarming innocent law abiding citizens, but by overhauling the mental health system, sure up our boarders and complete background checks. Checks and balances and accountability for those background checks. We make a lot of excuses in this great country or ours. Every other nation in the world takes national security seriously. We will continue to become victims of senseless murdering rampages, unless we tighten things up from the top down.

MW: Incredibly, he was honorably discharged, according to media reports. DS

Mark Wassmer on September 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm

He could have been working for Al Qaeda… the government won’t check cuz of couse Islam isn’t responsible for terrorism.

It’ll be written off as another act of “workplace violence.” Until next time.

Its so predictable and the worst part of it is the people who want to do us harm can walk right in the front door. Aaron Alexis Case is one of many more to come.

Isn’t this a great country – or what? Only in America.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Alexis clearly got the affirmative action hire. Any white person with that record would not have been hired and would have been criminal prosecuted.

Federale on September 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Federale,

And the Islamic affirmative action hire. Think Nidal Malik Hasan. Political Correctness will be the death of us all!

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm

“One other thing: why did Aaron Alexis shoot the place up?”

If and when they release a victim list, maybe there’ll be a pattern.

DS_ROCKS! on September 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm

DS – maybe to kill critical personnel, maybe it was a grudge, he had a “bad day” or he decided that was the morning to go “postal.” Take your pick. We’ll never know for sure what set him off on his grisly rampage.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm

It’s a sad reality but reality it is all the same. The buffoons that conduct background checks for Secret/Top Secret clearances are the same who do background checks for FLEO positions. The collection of incompetent twits we now have working for ICE, CBP, and other fed agencies is proof enough.

And it’s any wonder we’re in the shape we are?

IceNoMore on September 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

ICNM –

I wouldn’t be so harsh on them – federal law enforcement officers are dedicated, hardworking and responsible people. They do the best they can as professionals with the resources they have.

There is only so much they can do cuz they don’t really run the show. Their bosses who do have other priorities and apart from not rocking the boat and looking forward to their government pensions or private sector lucrative second careers – they have no incentive to make things better.

The typical iron law of bureaucracy.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm

The reality is that there is NO accountability in government. Period. If there were, the people who were responsible for allowing Hasan and Alexis to have the jobs they did would have been FIRED, at a minimum. Instead, they are PROMOTED. That isn’t incompetence. Rather, it is PLANNED POLICY.

So, with policies like that, expect more of the same. The military and the politicians fully approve of these policies because they are used as a pretext to clamp down on the civil liberties of ordinary citizen, such as promoting gun control, etc.

Ralph Adamo on September 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Well, if it was a medical discharge for mental problems, then they generally do make it honorable and aren’t allowed to disclose the reason except in certain instances. Not sure what those instances are anymore. And now with the prevalence of more mental diagnoses, it doesn’t always disqualify a person for a clearance if it is deemed manageable. They found people with clearances would talk about issues out of fear of losing their clearance. So, now more people seek help. A Secret clearance doesn’t take much to get. Any Active Duty Servicemember has a minimum Secret along with any employed military contractor. The criteria for a Secret is basically a NCIC check and you can easily obtain a waiver for any indiscretions for a Secret clearance. When you go for a TS/SCI you get the full investigation including agents sent to question everyone you’ve ever had contact with and then you get polygraphed every five years. I do agree Debbie this utter incompetency and doesn’t sound right at all. So far it sounds like this guy was about to work on the Marine Corps Intranet, which is cake work, and there is no reason to go postal over that job. It’s an overpaid cush job, why kill people? Doesn’t make sense.

markswfl on September 17, 2013 at 4:34 pm

Norman,

I agree with you in part but, as Debbie so famously states, “The fish rots from the head down.” The same inept dweebs who get let through the sieve of background investigations butt snorkle their way to management and then, in turn, look for the same in their underlings. Welcome to “Drink the Koolaid-101”.

There is no accountability anymore…hasn’t been for a long time.

IceNoMore on September 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm

Especially since people usually go postal when being fired from a job, not before they start it.

markswfl on September 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm

Alexis traveled in Thailand and was there long enough to pick up some of the language. I read on the C.I.A. website that Thailand has a Muslim problem in some of it’s provinces. Could it be that he picked up some training and brainwashing while over there? And, of course they hired him and gave him a clearance. He’s BLACK. Affirmative action and hiring quotas. Contractors are required to hire a certain number of “minorities”. And, since it is so hard to find any that are even literate enough to read the label on a pack of Ramen noodles, I’m sure they didn’t care about any backround check.
I wonder if the background checks the liberals want for guns are as shitty as the ones the government “does” for security clearances.

RT on September 17, 2013 at 5:43 pm

All good citizens and all those who care about America have known the standard has been shrinking for years now. Nobody does their job with pride anymore (generally…) and nobody cares. Look at the people having kids and raising them. They lack manners and have huge entitlement personalities (or lack of ones…these dronish losers are quite wooden these days…like entitled, indifferent zombies…).

I’m not letting go of an Islam angle ’til it’s proven.

Alfredo also mentioned on another thread about the state of mental illness in USA. It’s pretty bad. Remember that 70% stat of peeps on prescription drugs? How much of that percentage are psychotropics?

I always know when I am engaging with someone who doesn’t know how the system of mental health works in USA. They think if you go to hospital, get a shrink or get a medicine for psychiatric problems you’re on you’re way to health. HARDLY. As I started with, nobody cares (especially if you’re a mental patient…) and what those sorts need more than anything is a benign “despot” pushing them thru’ rather than pandering victimization (which leads to NOTHING as the patient uses the pandering & victimization as a crutch and wallows in their own mental mess NEVER getting better…). You get rock bottom service from people who don’t have the brains, stamina or care to work as hard as they may have to to get someone motivated.

And on the clinician’s, there is only so much you can do to really help someone. The patient has to be accepting of the hard work and stamina they will need to start getting better (if possible…).

America ain’t like that in 2013. People don’t care, they are narcissistic and Libtardism has rotted what was once so great.

Skunky on September 17, 2013 at 5:45 pm

Several things. We have the usual politicians out saying that we need gun control. Yet, all the shootings that have happened have occurred in areas were gun control exits and all have been mental and thus not supposed to posses guns. Then we have the fact that with escalating social violence, most not reported, we are making laws to remove the one security available to all Americans. Let’s take away the guns when they do away with security for politicians (all, from president on down) and remove the guns from cops (more of a danger than the average criminal).

Now, I was involved in a sniping incident in New Orleans a few decades ago. What I witnessed was that the sniper killed a few people and the cops killed a bunch. With the butchers bill so high in this situation, will the government do an investigation to see how many were hurt of killed by the great cops?

david7134 on September 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm

As more and more enemies of America secure positions within our government, we can expect more bad things to happen. Whether it’s the FBI and our military eliminating all references to Islam, or members of the Muslim Brotherhood working WITHIN the Department of Homeland Security, all the signs point to a sad outcome for America.

JeffT on September 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm

The problem lies in the hands of our presently seated government, the presently seated administration and they presently seated Supreme court. They have taken the stand against the common American. To them we are their enemy. They have lost tract of just what America is. The Muslim Brotherhood (to this administration) have become the good guys and the Department of Homeland Security is backing them up. The DHS is not what they claim to be, but have become the Department of Insecurity. I do and can not trust any part of our present government as the are not here to protest the people, but to protect the government from the people.

george on September 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Watch how fast this guy’s past and recent passed are tossed under a bush. Yep, there have been Muslim terrorist incidents lately in Northern Thailand. Is there a jihad factor here? We may never know. Is there an affirmative action factor? I suspect so. Just watch how fast they push for more gun control. ….well folks, at least the public’s attention has been taken off of Syria ….and of course Benghazi, NSA, and IRS. How timely.

Not Ovenready on September 18, 2013 at 12:21 am

No reason I can see why he shouldn’t have gotten a security clearance. After all, he didn’t do anything like burning the Koran or urinating on terrorist prisoners.

Little Al on September 18, 2013 at 6:56 am

Atrocities like this should also be kept in mind when we hear the constant drumbeat (no pun intended) that felons should be allowed to vote.

Little Al on September 18, 2013 at 7:11 am

The mental illness of political correctness prevails again.

Pray Hard on September 18, 2013 at 11:36 am

HSI has hired people as special agents that have been removed from the military due to mental instability. HSI has employees who have received less than honorable discharges. There are HSI agents that make six-figure salaries that are pulling in thousands of dollars more in the form of payments for PTSD claims for service connected “disabilities” (mental instability). Think about that for a moment, there are people working in HSI that carry firearms that have serious mental conditions like paranoid schizophrenia and manic depression. Some time ago there was an incident in Los Angeles, California in which a special agent that had known, long standing, anger control and violence issues attempted to kill his supervisor, Kevin Kozak.

HSI has very low standards; I don’t think that there is much that could actually prohibit employment. There is no requirement that an applicant be of sound mind, there is no psychological battery or analysis administered to job applicants. HSI has also hired people as special agents who are new immigrants, people for whom a real background investigation cannot be performed because they have lived the majority of their lives in foreign countries (even less of a chance if it is third world or former Eastern Bloc country). Remember the former Jordanian military intelligence officer than worked for HSI in El Paso, Texas, that was eventually fired for corruption (how was someone like that hired in the first place)?

There was a time some years ago when you had to get a full scope background investigation to get into the better federal law enforcement agencies, and mental instability was a bar to getting a security clearance or carriage of a weapon. There was also a time some years ago where persons who have ever had foreign citizenship or nationality could not be granted a security clearance.

With such low standards for government employees, can we really hold contractors to higher standards?

King David on September 18, 2013 at 12:49 pm

I had to get a security clearance back in the day from the Naval Ordnance Laboratory so I could work there the summer after my senior year and before my first semester of grad school. During my first year of grad school they asked me back for the next summer, but again they did an extensive search of my background even though I had been cleared very recently. It seems now that a lot of people are very lazy or lax when it comes to clearances. How did Alexis get a gun through screening anyway?

NormCBS on September 18, 2013 at 3:32 pm

King David & ICENoMore-
You both are spot on- ICE is failing at checking potential employees out. How else do you explain that a senior aquisition specialist has been working for ICE for years, and has been operating a hate based, anti-white, anti-jew website, openly, and just now being found out? And he is still being by ICE,,,, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ayo-?kimathi-paid-leave

TexasHoldem on September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm

Navy Yard killer created webpage with name ‘Mohammed Salem’.

Donald on September 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm

It’s all ok, we’re getting xrayed and examined to an inch of our lives at all of the airports by wannabee detectives, so all is good.

inxs on October 14, 2013 at 7:52 am

7 billion people in the world and growing, you’d expect to get a few nutcases amongst them.
This Ponzi population growth scheme is going to get real ugly with food and water stresses if we don’t start controlling it soon.

ccc on October 14, 2013 at 8:02 am

A thorough background check is essentially needed in almost every sector to keep the country safe and less vulnerable to any type of attacks. Starting from the immigration to owning firearms legally ; everywhere there is a chance of arising dangerous situations. So, it would be act like a deterrent for the criminal-minded people. It would reveal the truth of the applicant clearly. However, the background check should be unbiased and transparent and must comply to the FCRA guidelines.

Joseph Martinez on April 4, 2017 at 9:37 am