I’m surprised the next stop on the tour isn’t the state prison to learn about the sex going on there. I bet this is popular with the folks from Dearbornistan hoping they can see some goat and sheep love. In an era of bizarre news stories, this one tops it, at least for today, or maybe fifteen minutes.

RT on February 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm

People, especially children see wild animals having sex on the National Geographic specials. But that’s not “in your face” stuff. You are not forced to watch it if you don’t want to.

What makes the Detroit Zoo’s Valentine Day’s program different is people deny the beasts the very dignity which they deserve and respect. One would think even animals are deserving of privacy when they’re engaged in procreation.

There’s more to it than that. If couples really need to watch wild animals animals having sex to rekindle their relationship, its a sad commentary on the state of our society. Its bad enough Valentine’s Day has become a “day in hell” on which men must do certain things on to avoid the wrath of the woman in their lives. Here, there’s no romance to the day when it involves watching animal porn together.

If this is now the essence of Valentine’s Day, who needs it? Things like this take all the spontaneity and fun out of genuine romance and true love and our society is the poorer for it.

NormanF on February 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm

They don’t make Valentine’s Day like they used to.

If a woman comes expecting an entitlement with it, let’s just say its not going to be a marriage made in heaven.

NormanF on February 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

I guess they’re just catching up with the art world.

Little Al on February 11, 2013 at 4:39 pm

Ew!

Michelle on February 11, 2013 at 4:45 pm

There is a market for bestiality porn.

Sick and perverted. What’s offered at the Detroit Zoo is just slightly more upscale.

NormanF on February 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm

So what’s wrong with wanting to live in the fifties?
Looks like it was a pretty good time back then. Prosperous, conservative, good education, people actually raising their kids, two-parent families with mothers and fathers. Works for me!

Michelle on February 11, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Something is seriously wrong with Detroit, and the Detroit Zoo is probably the least of its problems.

Meanwhile over in San Diego, here is the agenda for their world famous Zoo on Feb. 14:

Valentine’s Day Dinner
Thursday, 14 February, 2013
06:00 PM – 08:00 PM
Treat your Valentine to a wildly romantic evening! Celebrate love with a gourmet meal in the beautiful surroundings of the Safari Park. Our chef has an elegant menu planned for a lovely dinner with your loved one. We’ll provide the setting, you bring the romance!

Reception with animal presentation and no-host bar begins at 6 p.m. Four-course dinner served at 6:30 p.m.

Animals are beautiful creatures, and we should treat them with respect.

I am reminded of this great and memorable scene from the masterpiece movie, Spartacus (1960), starring Kirk Douglas in the title role and Jean Simmons as Varinia, along with the marvelously corrupt Gracchus, played by Peter Ustinov. Finally the beautiful musical theme by scorewriter Alex North. Famous line: “I am NOT an animal!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoQeksBRPLI

It seems to me that certain PEOPLE in Detroit should be behind the cages for observation.

Ralph Adamo on February 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm

In a word, progress.

Its not hip and cool to be stuck in the past.

In the Western World, time never stands still. It would be ideal to avoid the bad but its the price of all the good that comes along with it.

For all its drawbacks and shortcomings, I wouldn’t dream of living anywhere else or having been born in centuries long gone.

NormanF on February 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm

“animal sex banquet reminds him of this sketch from “The State””

Those guys on the State were hilarious.

DS_ROCKS! on February 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm

“Animal sex dinner?”

O
M
G

You have to be a real freak to want to have a romantic dinner while watching animal sex.

Disturbing

ebayer on February 11, 2013 at 5:48 pm

I guess it doesn’t take much to work PR for the City of Detroit or the Detroit Zoo. What idiot came up with this? Maybe it’s a sting op to see just who would pay to see this and why. Nah, just Detroit being Detroit.

WilliamMunny on February 11, 2013 at 5:52 pm

As someone who works with animals, this is indeed only for the sicko, prurient, debased masses that 2013 brings us. YUCKO!

I am VERY interested in animal behaviour but I have ZERO interest in this and would only partake in an educational course that is germane to animal procreational habits to help further that understanding if it was required for future work. That is not presently on the roster so I say “No thanks, perverts!”

I am pragmatic and a fighter but I have ZERO hope for what the future brings for this diseased culture. I believe we have passed the point of no return.

This lascivious nonsense belongs in a culture where (presently) one can get their sex on oh so freely YET medicinal aids like “Viagra” and “Cialis” are needed for the so-called “sexy” and the rest of the going through the motions crowd. Where emphasis is put squarely on the superficial (face lifts, plastic surgery, anti-depressants for peeps who should be no where near being sexual when they are walking mental cases in their own right) and TRUE romantic, committed and covenantal marriages are more rare than rocking-horse crap. In a society that has so far eradicated the boundaries of proper sexual behaviours that they are trying to legitimize paedophilia and other sexual deviancies. This is perversion on parade!

I really liked what Norman said. Dignity is something that is lost (in 2013) individually and to others. Disgrazia!

All dopes hoping to get unfeeling, Zombiefied crapola on VD day know deep in their heart there is nothing of substance behind it.

And I feel badly because Zoos DO need money coming in to sustain them (and I only support this to keep the caged animals in a somewhat dignified living environment) and this is a HORRIBLE way to whore for funds. These pervos (who will attend) remind me of those who attend pornographic film events (like at a college or “Lefty” theatre events) in public with other hipster doofuses. Debased freaks who are pervo imbeciles!

Not shocked a Moooooslim is in the thick of this. They are as Satanic as one can get and hide their perversions (which are legion) and at the same time want the Infidels to fall from grace by their same closeted vice (with more excuses than a Mexican going to jail as for why it’s a sin for the Infidel but “Halal” for the Jihadi).

If you got someone who will give you all the Feb 14th trappings on any other day you have bragging rights. Otherwise you’re a lemming looking forward to the meaningless, go-with-the-crowd mass zombie-walk plunge. Bon Voyage!

Skunky on February 11, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Will all sexual orientations be represented? or wii, once again, repressive white male power structure marginalize gay and lesbian sex. Are Ther , really, no Gay monkeys?

bobguzzardi on February 11, 2013 at 7:22 pm

Are there,really, no Gay monkeys?

bobguzzardi on February 11, 2013 at 7:23 pm

My wife is from Alabama. Got her an “Alabama Shakes” CD. She doesn’t want more diamonds, she is on a diet, roses die. I may also go get her some high quality yarn since she loves to knit. This is our 18th wedding anniversary this September 7th, so maybe $180 or $324 dollars worth of yarn?

The Boss is simply the best.

Occam's Tool on February 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm

Don’t know anyone named Tony Kushman. Don’t suppose you mean Tony Kushner? Mr. Kushner has regained the limelight among liberals recently, since he attacks evil Republican Mormans.

Little Al on February 11, 2013 at 8:04 pm

You rely on ‘film scholars’. Don’t you know, after all these years of reading this blog, and contributing to it, the degree to which left wing bias generally permeates their ‘studies’? Of course they will minimize left wing influence.

You didn’t refute my assertions of Trumbo’s plagiarism, or hatred of the country that gave him so much.

And of course there were multiple influences in turning this country against the war, but the responsibility of the press in no way exonerates Trumbo’s filth, or absolves his garbage film of its share of the responsibility. And like most liberals, you shift the subject. I was making the point about Johnny in terms of Trumbo’s politics; you subtly shifted to the ‘lack of influence’ of the film, departing from the focus of my comments.

And (I’m not saying this for you as much as for others who will read this) the point is that opening the door to the Communists in the early 60s again paved the way for leftists to escalate their influence through the decades to the point we are at now. Had they been kept out then, their influence and the influence of left-wingers in general in Hollywood would be far less today. And yes, Kirk Douglas and Frank Sinatra (the draft evader of World War II) did play a role in welcoming Communists again. Does that make it better? Does a desire for financial riches coupled with naivety make things better? I don’t think so.

And I pointed out months ago to you, apparently unsuccessfully, that the Communists’ influence was more indirect — film noir, showing undesirable facets of American life, lack of criticism of the Soviet Union, and supporting the war effort as Trumbo did while his beloved Russia was under attack. The very title of his WW II movie, Tender Comrade was obviously designed to equate Stalinist Russia with the United States. Of course the Soviet Union (sic) was whitewashed in that movie.

I have explained these things over and over again here, and your comments seem to show a real lack of comprehension of what I am saying. You recite facts, but miss the main points of my arguments. Notice how quickly Hollywood shifted from support of civil rights to opposition to the Vietnam War, and then villainization of the CIA in less than 15 years (ew.g. Three Days of the Condor, one of the most revolting films ever made).

And you might try reading or rereading what Ronald Radosh and Ken Billingsley have written about World War II and Communist influence in Hollywood. Or perhaps, the excellent articles Human Events has had over the years about Communist influence in Hollywood during the 30s and 40s. You might also try “Un-American Hollywood” edited by Frank Krutnik et al, although it has to be read very carefully. Hedda Hopper and Luella Parsons have also written about this, although they, too, have to be read carefully.

It is hard for me to understand how it is generally understood what pernicious influence left-wingers have in Hollywood today, but there are so many blind spots about what happened half a century or so ago.

Little Al on February 11, 2013 at 10:08 pm

Little A1, there’s nothing to refute. You’ve presented no facts, no evidence, and no examples for anything you’ve said. You;ve only engaged in ipse dixitisms–and superficial ones at that. Like I said, do so REAL research for a change, instead of relying on mindless political demogoguery. When you do some real research and present real facts and evidence, and then develop a logical cohesive argument, then we can talk. And don’t refer me to read some other political hackwork either, unless you’re going to show me some specific evidence from their screeds. Otherwise, you just taking up space and wasting time.

Ralph Adamo on February 11, 2013 at 10:21 pm

Your 10:21 comments are devoid of substance, totally, and just consist of insults and unsupported innuendos. No further response on my part is needed, except to say that a use of obscure expressions like ipse dixitism to imply wisdom, and to mask a lack of substance on your part does not work.

And while Radosh and Billingsley are not perfect, your unsupported attacks on them show your real deep-seated political views, and remind me of your prior comments, months ago about the courageous and heroic Americans who helped expose Communist disloyalty a number of decades ago.

Little Al on February 11, 2013 at 10:31 pm

Like I’ve said, you’ve produced no facts, no evidence, and you haven’t even presented a cohesive argument for your outlandishly absurd premise, i.e. that Trumbo has corrupted the American public. And ipse dixit isn’t an obscure reference. It’s Latin and it’s used ALL of the time–but mainly in the legal arena. And it’s used all of the time for a very good reason. People like you seem to think that just because they say something that it must be true. The idea of demonstrating supporting evidence for assertions has no meaning for a great many people. So, while you might get away with your phony contention here, if you tried to do that nonsense in a legal context, you would get the ipse dixit response from the opposition and you’d lose your case–not that you ever had any. In fact, your inability to provide any support suggests to me that you are really a pseudo-conservative out to discredit real conservatives with ridiculous arguments that attaempt to make conservatives look like fools.

Ralph Adamo on February 11, 2013 at 11:02 pm

My prior comments had lots of concrete statements — you’ve ignored all of them & changed the subject again and again as I indicated with an example in my 10:08 comment. My comments were distilled from the works I cited.

And I guess the difference between conservatives and liberals can be shown by the differing opinions of Trumbo. To me and to real conservatives he was a Commie hack. I gave several examples of plagiarism, softness towards the Land of Socialism, disproportionate portrayal of the seamy side of American life, satires of businessmen, glorification of workers, especially women workers (Tender Comrade & Exodus), and of course anti-Vietnam War. But never criticism of the Soviet Union. Plenty of Film Noir while the Communists were trying to take over the world in the late 40s.

Did you not understand my comments about the slippery slope from support of the civil rights movement to villifying the CIA and attacking our wars while they were in progress in only one decade?

To liberals, including those influenced by Communism, he is described by accolades such as the ones you presented.

And I don’t think we’re in court now. Legal expressions belong in legal settings, although even there, a good attorney will try to avoid being pedantic to avoid antagonizing a jury or to avoid having judges think the lawyer is all style and no substance. And, duh, Latin is a dead language, and references in dead languages are necessarily obscure.

And again, no substance on your part. I will not answer you again until you present some real substance and address the specific statements I have made.

I realize this is an emotional subject for you, but I hope other readers realize that people like Trumbo and Chaplin were enemies of the American way of life, and owed their allegiance to foreign powers, even if, at times, they were coy about it.

A loyal American would cooperate with Government committees trying to uproot Communism. Chaplin and Trumbo did not.

And I will be charitable, since you are a regular contributor and avoid comment on your last statement.

Little Al on February 11, 2013 at 11:44 pm

Valentine’s Day is actually the Roman festival of Lupercalia in which all forms of debauchery were publicly practiced and on display. It was only after Christianity became the “official” religion of Rome, that the holiday was given a cloak of respectability but attributing it to a saint.

Italkit on February 12, 2013 at 3:02 am

I’m backward and living in the 50’s too. I miss the days when I was not bombarded with ads for erectile dysfunction on the radio and TV all the time.

Suz on February 12, 2013 at 11:20 am

With all the “acceptance” of other perversions in society, after reading this it made me think we aren’t all that far away from “accepting” beastiality. Remember not all that long ago, no one ever thought there would be wide-spread acceptance of homosexuality. Once we start down that road, it seems it’s only a matter of time before other things rear their ugly heads. I hope and pray I’m wrong though.

Susan in San Diego on February 12, 2013 at 11:23 am

If people didn’t go …and pay…to watch it, they wouldn’t be having the “event”. As you said, Debbie … sickos!

Billie on February 12, 2013 at 12:35 pm

The Zoo is appealing to a sick clientele.

The Zoo is debasing humans (as well as their animals) by making animals a live porno show (and during dinner no less)

Next year there could be a comparative analysis between humans having sex and chimps or apes or wildebeests for that matter. Peter North as guest performer, etc.

Its sick and getting sicker.

When the academic is taken without morality this is what you get.

G_d save our country.

Panhandle on February 12, 2013 at 12:49 pm

Sex between a consenting adult and a zoo animal should be kept private….Actually, I bet the discussion is mostly G-rated. It probably centers aroung courting rituals, like what you can see on uncensored television shows. I hope there is a follow-up on this blog, if that is not the case. The event is sold out for all you perverts interested in attending (LOL). I think their billing of the event works to get free press. Personally, I would not shell out $85 for the most enticing meal prepared in a zoo kitchen.

Visteo on February 12, 2013 at 3:32 pm

Wow! Talk about dinner and a show. Seriously what kind of sick twisted fools would pay money so go to something like this. Oh that’s right the same people who say stupid crap like we should “live and let live.” With our accepting of all things abnormal and perverted is it any wonder that this monkey crap at the Detroit Zoo is permitted. It also figures that a smelly Muslim would have his stinky hand in this mess. You can always count on them to gleefully promote filth on an American holiday. Even if it is Valentine’s Day or what I call the still recovering from Christmas bills but turn right around and go out and buy another gift day.

Ken b on February 12, 2013 at 6:31 pm

@Little Al–

I was not talking about the 60s generation. I was referring to the WWII generation, which—sadly—was overloaded with Communist sympathizers. Of course, it didn’t help that Uncle Joe was our ally.

Red Ryder on February 13, 2013 at 11:05 am

The muslims are attending the event so that they can view the animals and select a new wife!

MRobs on February 14, 2013 at 10:55 am