July 28, 2011, - 1:34 pm

Karma?: Norway Camp Breivik Shot Up Celebrated HAMAS, Jew-Hatred

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE: Karma #2: Norway Utoya Camp Was Also FATAH PLO Terrorist Camp ****

It’s trite but true:  a picture’s worth a thousand words.  And the Norwegian newspaper pictures from the “political youth camp” at Utoya Island, Norway–the day before terrorist Anders Behring Breivik attacked it–say it all.  The boycott sign is obvious, and the other pic is a game, re-enacting of the HAMAS flotilla in which terrorists tried to murder Israeli soldiers (complete with Palestinian flags and Norwegian kids’ smiles).  These kids who were killed by a terrorist . . . well, they sided with Islamic terrorists.  Look at the photos brought to our attention by Zalmi’s Weblog, and they appeared on Norwegian news site Politisk, right before the attacks.  Read all the insightful details provided by the astute Zalmi, who notes that the man in the pic happily encountering the boycott sign is Norway’s Foreign Minister Gahre-Store, who went on to praise Palestinian terrorists and condemn Israel.

“Victims” or Perpetrators?: Norwegian HAMASniks Join Norway Foreign Minister @ Utoya Island Camp

Funny how Glenn Beck has come  under attack for comparing the camp to a Hitler Youth camp.  Based on these pics, seems like he’s spot on, though he should have added, HAMAS Youth camp, too. As we all know, Nazis boycotted Jews and were Jew-killers.  And these hateful, privileged brats at the camp boycotted Jews and sided with Jew-killers.  I don’t condone violent massacres on innocent civilians, and I condemn what Breivik did. He is a terrorist just like the 9/11 hijackers, Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Nidal Malik Hasan.  But what goes around comes around.  You support terrorists against innocent civilians in Israel, then you get attacked by terrorists who are upset with your support.

For me, this is like Alien v. Predator.  I’m not  sad for either side.  And I make no apologies for it.  Now these kids’ families know what it feels like to be victims of the Islamic terrorists whose Judenrein boycotts and terrorist flotillas against Israel they support.  We don’t live in a vacuum.  I can’t feel sorry for those who support my would-be assassins.  And I don’t get too upset when they face the karma that is their fate.  HAMAS isn’t just against Israel, it’s against all Jews . . . and all Christians.  Just ask the Christians who’ve had to flee Gaza for their lives.  And read the HAMAS charter.  I’ll bet that’s something these spoiled airheaded kids with their Boycott Israel signs and HAMAS flotilla re-enactment games never did.

Frankly, the HAMAS charter and HAMAS’ behavior, all of which these kids at the Norwegian HAMAS youth camp cheered on, is a lot more scary than the screed and deeds of Breivik.

My late grandfather, a Holocaust survivor, never shed a tear for dead Nazis.  My late father, a Vietnam era Army veteran, never shed a tear for those who supported the killing of Americans and Jews. And I shed no tears for these HAMASnik campers with a Scandinavian dialect. Perpetrators are not victims. Sorry. HAMAS collaborators don’t get my pity. They never will.

Again, you must read Zalmi’s important piece on this, which provides far more detail on these “victims” of terrorism who celebrated terrorism against other victims.

That Was Then . . .

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This Is Now . . .

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460 Responses

Congratulations on this post. While I, too, abhor and condemn the shooting of the Norwegian victims, it is important to put them in perspective, and show that they and those around them were, at the same time, a bunch of despicable anti-Semites.

Little Al on July 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Little Al. Those children and other victims were not “anti-semites”!

    Just because one disagrees with Israel does not make one an “anti-semite”. I agree with them. Israel should be boycotted.

    Rose on July 28, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      agree with them. Israel should be boycotted.

      Rose on July 28, 2011 at 7:35 pm

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      Why?

      Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 2:07 am

      Disagreement with Israeli policy is not anti-Semitism. Applying a double standard to Israel, implying unique powers to Jews, insisting they control the word, assigning them malevolence beyond other peoples and denying the Jews national self-determination is anti-Semitism. That is why anti-Semites get resentful when you deny the freedom to promote bigotry and hatred. As for a boycott of Israel, people are within their rights to do it. They just don’t have a right to claim they’re doing it for non-selfish or enlightened reasons.

      NormanF on July 29, 2011 at 6:20 am

    Well said, Little Al. I agree 100%.

    JeffE on July 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm

The poster at 5:28 pm, get lost and send your ignorance and stupidity where it belongs (clearly not this blog). NOWHERE in this article Debbie said that she’s happy those teens died, yes they may have a different viewpoint from hers, mines and most of the readers/posters on this website, but violence towards anyone is NOT the answer! And it’s disgustingly clear to me that your an anti-semite yourself, by taking a good look at your own screen-name? Even if your not anti-semitic, your still a jackass for typing a message that’s stupid and moronic, get lost, let us adults talk and debate about this issue in a civil and rational way!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 5:33 pm

If these kids are anti-Semitic, why is it wrong not to miss them?

I am so tired of the tolerance of anti-Semitism in the world One out of every Two Jews ever born has been murdered. Let us not go quietly into the night, but fight back at every level.

Screw Norway. My only regret is that they did not make Sweden a target also, where villages are being cleansed of Jews by Muslims, and the government justifies it.

Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    It makes me sad reading your post.
    Why would Sweden and Norway be filled with anti-semitism?

    You must be a horribly ignorant human being for making such comments. Innocent people died because of mad men. This is nothing different from 9/11 and every damn war there is on this earth.

    You are no better than the Nazis when you write something like that. Pay some respect to the victims as i did when i visited Auschwitz to learn why things went as wrong as they did in 1935-1945.

    Best regards
    Andreas, Citizen of “Jew-hating” Sweden.

    Andreas Odelberg-Johnson on July 28, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      Well, Norway would know about Nazis. Remember Quisling? He had a lot of followers in Norway. Many of you were sorry when Hitler lost.

      Your country is filled with loathing for Israel. Oh, you will mouth the words that Israel has a right to exist (how white of you to say so), but you enunciate policies that would lead to Israel’s destruction. At every turn, you condemn Israel when Israel is defending itself against the same sort of terrorism you experienced. Your country is almost first in line to support boycotts, first in line to support the PLO, first in line to support a hostile “Palestinian state.”

      You condemn Israel’s human rights, which are better than most other countries in the world. No condemnation for Saudi Arabia, China, Zimbabwe, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, Syria, Egypt, etc., etc. No, you single out Israel.

      So you went to Auschwitz? The world loves to mourn dead Jews, but hate those still standing on their feet.

      Well, this is one Jew that is not willing to accomodate people like you.

      Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:09 pm

        Well, Norway would know about Nazis. Remember Quisling? He had a lot of followers in Norway. Many of you were sorry when Hitler lost.

        One such follower won the Nobel Prize for Literature. Remember Knut Hamsun?

        Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 4:28 am

        So you went to Auschwitz? The world loves to mourn dead Jews, but hate those still standing on their feet.

        BRAVO!!!!

        Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 4:30 am

        Every country in Europe that got occupied by the nazis had their collobrators that wanted to cooperate with Hitler. In every country you would find somebody. Somebody that used the possibility that nazism gave them to get some power and take part in the surpression of their own people. Our collobration leader was Vidkun Quisling. There is no way to hide from it, he is our national shame, and has been considered so since long time before he was put before trial and sentenced to death in 1945.

        A few per cent of the Norwegian people followed the self-declared leader and national “saviour”. The rest looked away in shame. He tried to size to power already 9th of April 1940, when Nazi Germany attacked Norway, and with their help, he held some sort of power from the autumn of 1940 until the German capitualtion in May 1945. In his own eyes, however, he was one of the cleverest and most important Nazis in Europe.

        On Quislings direct order were the few Jews in Norway gathered and sent to the death camps. Half of them managed however to escape, with help from well-meaning Norwegians. But more could probably have been saved, had the good will been stronger, like it happened in Denmark. Neutral Sweden was the country that was willing to open it´s borders for Jewish refugees from both German/Nazi occupied Norway and Denmark.

        But one should also know: Even though Quisling had only a few per cent of the people on his side, anti-semittism in different forms was far more widespread in the population, and this was also one of the reasons why the Nazis succeded so well as they did in gathering the Jews. The average Norwegian opposition against Quisling had little to do with sympathy with Jews, but had everything to do with love for the political freedom and national souvereignity that we had before the German attac.

        Ingvar Åberge (in Norway) on August 8, 2011 at 7:40 am

      Andreas, you know that deep inside, real deep inside, you just know that the Jews who were killed in Auschwitz were partially responsible for their own deaths. Swedish “neutrality” during WWII must be justified with anti-semitism in order for you to feel better about yourselves.

      Hambone on July 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    I can’t choose between the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

    NormanF on July 28, 2011 at 7:23 pm

It was Norway that created this awful massacre. Their policies made it all possible, by brainwashing those kids in indoctrination camps (sound familiar?) and allowing uncontrolled Muslim immigration.

Far-right groups were inevitable.

While I could never condone what that man did, I can see how it all came about.

Michelle on July 28, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Far-right groups were inevitable.

    While I could never condone what that man did, I can see how it all came about.

    Michelle on July 28, 2011 at 5:51 pm

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    Some sort of far-right, ultra-nationalist organization may have been inevitable, Michelle, but not a lunatic shooting children. If you see how it all came about, there’s something wrong with you.

    Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 4:34 am

I must be a little slow, because I don’t see that it is so terrible that anti-Semites and Israel haters die by the same sort of terrorism that has killed thousands of Jews. It is almost like Nazis being gassed and cremated.

Norway has always had a strong anti-Semitic streak.

Screw ’em.

Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    KIKES like you are why anti-semitism exists.

    WE NEED ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.

    El on July 29, 2011 at 8:13 am

If by Karma you mean cause and effect, then we can agree this was Karma. This is precisely why he chose that spot. He knew there were going to be a bunch of pro-Palestinian “multiculturalist vermin” (his words) on that Island holding anti-semitic rallies. Terror will only breed more terror, and for every action there will be a opposite reaction. Norway is way too fucked up with their Muslim enclaves and cultural laws anyway. Maybe, just maybe, Anders’ actions will wake the stupid gun control nutcases up and something good will come of it. He was standing around for half an hour shooting ducks in the pond while the cops hid like little bitches! If that dsnt teach the Norwegians and other Europeans a lesson then forget it. Like Debbie said, what goes around comes around.

Say hello to generation WHYYYYYYY!!!!! on your way to hell, haters.

And that Ladyfiaran chick IS a skank, I can smell her from over here!

Bruce on July 28, 2011 at 6:02 pm

17,500 jihadi attacks by muslims on innocents, killing and maiming THOUSANDS since 9/11/2001 and this is the first time an event of mass murder in reaction to islamic hatred and murder has occurred….that’s a damn fine record of reticence and control by Christians, Jews, Hindus, Jans…and every bunch that has been victimized by islam. As horrible as such an act is (and you really have no idea unless you’ve seen the blood, guts and smelled the death as some of us have) it’s a wonder to me why it has been so long in coming. It’s one thing to bloody the nose of some muz who has insulted one, but the scope of this thing is almost ISLAMIC.

Tonto on July 28, 2011 at 6:02 pm

Burn in hell, whore

A Norwegian on July 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    You must be a descendant of Quisling.

    Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      Daily Kos is cleaning up the foul stench of anti-Semitism on the American Left. Its a good sign. I have yet to see the Norwegian – let alone the European Left commit itself to a similar stand. There should be zero tolerance for anti-Semitism and hate Israel views on liberal and progressive sites. Trying to justify bigotry and hate is not a human virtue.

      NormanF on July 28, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Burn in hell, whore

    A Norwegian on July 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm

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    How eloquent! How gentlemannly!

    Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 2:34 am

      How eloquent! How gentlemanly!

      Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 2:34 am

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      Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 4:17 am

A Norwegian,

Naw, she wouldn’t want to be where you live.

Facts Life on July 28, 2011 at 6:07 pm

If I’m not mistaken, the current Pope attended a camp of this nature as a young teenager. Just sayin’.

I wonder if, while these kids were re-enacting the flotilla incident, they also began sawing off pieces of the boat, and then proceeded to beat anyone who attempted to board the boat over the head with said pieces. I also wonder if the storage compartment of the boat was loaded with nothing but tons of useless vials of medicine past their expiration dates, and rusty wheelchairs and hospital beds that don’t work. If not, I question the authenticity of the exercise.

Irving on July 28, 2011 at 6:11 pm

So it’s okay to murder children if they criticise Israeli policies? I hope you burn in hell cunt.

Gangsta Vark on July 28, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Do you eat your herring with that mouth? Gee, these Norwegian Nazis sure are a touchy lot.

    Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Gangsta Vark, you really a dumb schmuck, explain to me where Debbie EVER said that those kids deserve to die because their viewpoints are anti-Israel? She NEVER said anything like you moron. You trolls are the most irrational and uncivil people I’ve ever encountered with.

    Normally I don’t have anything against scandinavian people, but if your of scandinavian heritage or lineage, your a plain old jackass, and another thing, don’t you EVER log onto this blog ever again in your miserable, pathetic life!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Honestly Debbie, I’ve been saying this kind of stuff for a long time. It still amazes me when so many people can’t understand. Like they say, what goes around, comes around. As a guy, it did bring about more than my share of brawls though. lol

samurai on July 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm

Funny, the Norwegians justified every terrorist attack against Israel, including those where children and infants were killed.

Don’t come crying to me for sympathy.

Oh, and if you were not such a bunch of pussies, your pantywaist government would have allowed you to carry guns. But then, guns are too manly for you.

Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm

I find it mildly amusing that these same Norwegians who justify the Muslims killing Isrealis get mighty touchy when 80-100 of their own people are killed. Maybe, like you tell the Israelis, you should change your policies? Isn’t that what you always preach to the Jews?

Also, maybe the Sven Johnsons should man up and get guns.

Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 6:29 pm

You can always depend on the brain-dead zombie concern trolls to show up with emotion coming out of every one of their stupid orifices.

You can also depend on them to be hit and run. They come here in a twister of rage, post rage-filled posts and disappear.

I’m glad they leave. That you can count on.

You can also count on them NEVER really knowing about the subjects they get all aggro about. That actually would be desirable. And they are so sanctimoniously phony. The truest point is that they really DON’T care about the people they are supposedly defending. If they actually did, they’d know more about the subject they’re all hot and bothered about and would actually stick around to help them rather than posting invective and leaving. They are the worst of the hypocrites (next to Moooooooslims).

And this is for all the nasty Scandinavians popping by…you are letting your disgusting countries go down the tubes as you sit by and do NOTHING but celebrate things that you should not celebrate. Good. Couldn’t happen to better a-holes. Your countries are HELL!

Skunky on July 28, 2011 at 6:43 pm

You can always depend on the brain-dead zombie concern trolls to show up with emotion coming out of every one of their stupid orifices.

You can also depend on them to be hit and run. They come here in a twister of rage, post rage-filled posts and disappear.

I’m glad they leave. That you can count on.

You can also count on them NEVER really knowing about the subjects they get all aggro about. That actually would be desirable. And they are so sanctimoniously phony. The truest point is that they really DON’T care about the people they are supposedly defending. If they actually did, they’d know more about the subject they’re all hot and bothered about and would actually stick around to help them rather than posting invective and leaving. They are the worst of the hypocrites (next to Moooooooslims).

And this is for all the nasty Scandinavians popping by…you are letting your disgusting countries go down the tubes as you sit by and do NOTHING but celebrate things that you should not celebrate. Good. Couldn’t happen to better a-holes. Your countries are HELL!

Skunky on July 28, 2011 at 6:43 pm

Exactly Skunky, these moronic trolls are like human “locust”, they see an article like this, what do they do, they don’t read the whole page from top-to-bottom, they “read between the lines” like the bumbling morons they are, from their they write stupid and childish message and do a “hit-and-run” tactic and vanish for good into the night!

Fact is that these feeble-minded trolls are nothing but COWARDS, they hide safely behind their computers/laptops and attack the messenger and make complete asses of themselves. I’m not going to hold my breath and expect any type of apology from any of these subliterate trolls by taking DS’s words-out-of-context, misquoting her, harrassing her and harrassing some of us the readers/posters on this blog!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 6:55 pm

I am in complete agreement with Debbie regarding the youth camp massacre in Norway. Sure, the situation that unfolded on that island was positively horrific. Honestly, none of us ever wants to experience a situation like that or to have our loved ones go through such a frightful experience.

What gets me, is how so many people are reluctant to dig deeper into all the facets of what makes these kinds of situations what they are and the true characterizations of all the players involved. Leaving it off with just feeling sorry for the poor whoopie poopies who happened to be on the wrong ideological island at the wrong time is just sheer sloth or willful ignorance or better yet, slothful ignorance. There should be much room for a broader discussion of all the facts as we have come to know them than just feeling sorry for the dead and wounded.

What Breivik did was murderously horrific to be sure, but he brought to global attention the nasty side of youthful anti-Jewish/anti-christian indoctrination under the cover of a seemingly ‘peaceful’ nation of good-looking, statuesque, blond white people. Until this story hit the headlines, I had no clue Norwegians were quite this anti-semitic, anti-christian, and pro-fakestinian. Shame on me I suppose. But I am enlightened now. And this knowledge fills me with disgust for these people. No different than the disgust I hold for the German people who aided and abetted the Third Reich and all the horrors it wrought on the millions of hapless people their culture didn’t deem worthy of their protection and respect. Don’t we all now arrogantly ask why no one in Germany or Europe made more of an effort to throw a wrench into the spokes of the Nazi machinery when it was still running at a lower RPM? What are we all doing about the current rise of anti-semitism and anti-christianity around the world today?

There are no doubt many Norwegians who will say with all honesty that they are not themselves anti-semites or anti-christian. And they will huff and puff with indignity at being accused of being so. But the facts are coming to light now that Norway has a serious, serious issue with this rise in Norway’s version of the Third Reich!! It seems to be glaringly obvious that the Norwegian people who claim NOT to be anti-semites and anti-christians aren’t doing a darned thing to put the brakes on these disgusting youth indoctrination camps. And if they don’t grow some Viking spine now that this incident has happened and to taking a cold, hard look at the ideology that fetes these ‘youth camps’, than Europe is indeed heading for another huge and brutal conflagration of immense death and destruction. By far worse this go ’round than the catastrophe of WWII. There will be no brave and honorable America coming to rescue Europe from itself again.

I’d like to say I am hopeful things will not come to this. But as every day and month goes by, I am growing considerably more skeptical.

Kairn on July 28, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Don’t mean to change the subject Debbie, but what’s your opinion about the “National Debt”? I know you didn’t write an article about it yet, but I assume you’re going to give your opinion about the National Debt sooner or later!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    You mean the national debt limit? We’re already broke. Raising our national credit card limit won’t change that fact. Congress prefers to play games than cut spending and get us out of a slow, steady slide to extinction. A few trillion more isn’t going to save the country.

    NormanF on July 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm

I can understand, not condone, Norwegians not liking Jews. But why does that translate into like Palestinians and accepting Muslim immigrants?

If they were just nordic racists who wanted their country to remain traditional and homogenous, that would make sense. But this embracing of foreigners with a religion incompatible with their culture…suicidal stupidity.

Whatever happened to the Vikings, those barbarians had balls. Now the Scandinavians are a bunch of gutless socialist wimps.

Leave Ericsson on July 28, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Now for any of you who didn’t see this article at the Daily Mail about the rise of neo-Nazi youth camps in Germany:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018540/Neo-Nazi-children-taken-care-German-authorities-bid-beat-rise-Hitler-worship.html

Here is a sampling from the article:

‘The children, who are sent to the camps by their neo-Nazi parents, are taught that democracy is for ‘weaklings’. They are also told that only a ‘people’s community’, as preached by the Nazis, can save the country under a new Fuehrer – one who has yet to be found.’

Anti-Debbie trolls are either part of this ugly ideology gathering a new head of steam in Europe or they are willful ignoramuses.

Kairn on July 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Yes those “children” were hateful left wing radicals meeting to talk about “evil” Israel and to boycott and strangle the life blood out of Israel. In fact the whole of Norway are mostly hard core socialists – courting Islamism into its society because it hates Israel so much. Norway is not “naaive” and “innocent” and “childlike” like Fox news reported recently. Looks to me like the shooter “snapped” after years of putting up with what he didn’t like in his society. Unfortunately his means for objecting, is not what a civilized society can condone.

Lucy on July 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Lucy, you seem to fail to realize that Debbie has engaged in a broader discussion here about the the youth camp shooting in Norway. You are getting behind the eight ball.

    Yes, there was a horrific tragedy there. We’ve all talked that part of it to death (no pun intended). We have all said we are sorry for the loss of life. How much more ‘sorriness’ do people like you want to wring out of this tragedy?

    We are moving on to the bigger issue that was brought to light through this tragedy – the seeming resurgence of Nazi-like ideology in Europe right out there in the light of day. Unashamed. Proud as heck. And good looking too…just like those amazingly handsome Nazi youth from days of yore going about their calisthenics in the glorious summer sunshine of 1930’s Germany. Such happy people. Such clean people. Such healthy people. So smart, so capable. So eventually damnably murderous monsters. Millions and millions of dead people later, Lucy. All over Europe. People these youth were taught to fervently hate at their ‘innocent’ summer youth camps. Hate to the point where they lost every shred of their humanity. Hate to the point where they weren’t so ‘good-looking’ any more. Just ugly, ugly torturing and killing machines.

    What is it about anti-semitic/anti-christian youth camps and what they ultimately lead to that you don’t understand? How do you feel when you watch old news reels showing these handsome German youths at their summer camps knowing what you know now about what that all turned out to be? Why is it you do not wish to make a connection to the crappy philosophies that are being thrown at the children of socialists parents in Norway?

    Kairn on July 28, 2011 at 8:20 pm

Lucy, speaking of which, did you watch Bill O’Reilly’s show earlier this week, he said that “Anders Breivik is not really a christian, yadda yadda yadda yadda”! I happen to disagree with O’Reilly, the fact is is that Breivik is a christian and he also admitted in his personal manifesto that he’s “100% christian”! This dude Breivik claims to be a member of “The Knights Templar”, which is presumably a re-encarnation of the 12th century christian group that participated in the crusades. He also quoted some books and verses in the bible in his manifesto. So those are the facts about Breivik’s personal manifesto!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 7:39 pm

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

Will leFey on July 28, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Will leFey, I DON’T tolerate what Breivik did to those young people and I am NOT applauding what he did. What he did was pure evil, simple as that, as I said earlier on today on this blog, “violence is not the answer”!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 8:00 pm

The concept of the nation was shown to be obsolete in 1915 and I don’t understand why we cling to it so dearly.

Will leFey on July 28, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Will, I said this earlier, I’ll say it again:

    “Anti-Debbie trolls are either part of this ugly ideology gathering a new head of steam in Europe or they are willful ignoramuses.”

    Which one are you?

    There seems to be a lot that you don’t understand. Poor soul.

    Kairn on July 28, 2011 at 8:26 pm

Probably the worst thing I’ve read all week. No, pretty sure it is. First and last time visiting this wasteland of thought.

Rod on July 28, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Good Rod. And stay away.

    Don’t bullsh us with your “I’m not coming back because of the content of this blog” crap.

    You’re just being you and doing what you do best. You know NOTHING on the subject, don’t care about those you show fake concern about and you’ll be hitting and running again because that’s what YOU do best.

    You’re the classic hit and run troll. You add nothing, know nothing and it’s all just so you can feel better about yourself. You come a dime a dozen and we’re on to you.

    Skunky on July 28, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Yes, you are a rod.

    Jonathan E. Grant on July 29, 2011 at 12:01 am

Apparently you Rob, you only “read between the lines”, just proves that your reading comphrension is pathetic, “RIF, Reading is Fundamental”!

You mental-midget trolls are the most moronic, illiterate and irrational people to ever exist in todays world. So Rob my advise for you to is NEVER log onto this website ever again, if you think this is a “wasteland of thought” in your perverted mind.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 28, 2011 at 8:29 pm

Maybe we’re just sickened by Debbie’s racism. You know who else was racist against Norwegians? HITLER.

Will leFey on July 28, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    You lying sack of crap. Ever hear of someone called Quisling? Quisling and his rather large following served as Hitler’s puppet government in Norway, which had a large number of supporters.

    Hitler loved Norwegians….they had the Aryan look that gay Hitler loved so much.

    Jonathan E. Grant on July 28, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Maybe we’re just sickened by Debbie’s racism. You know who else was racist against Norwegians? HITLER.

    Will leFey on July 28, 2011 at 9:15 pm

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    Dear Mr. leFey: The essence of racism is a belief in INNATE differences. Where does Ms. Schlussel say anybody was born any way?

    Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 3:00 am

4 Sean R.

Of course, we have known for years that Christianity played no role at all in Timothy McVeigh’s demented, murderous mind (he was, in fact, a self-professed agnostic), while it is becoming increasingly clear that a living, Christian faith (as opposed to a European, cultural Christianity, completely unrelated to faith) was something of no real importance to Anders Breivik. And Christian thinking or ideology certainly did not fuel his savagery.

But falsely branding McVeigh and Breivik as “Christians” is not the real problem. The problem is when people of genuine Christian faith are labeled “Christianists,” the semantic equivalent of “Islamists,” the current way of describing Islamic terrorists who allegedly distort and pervert Islam. We are now the perverters of the Christian faith, not Christians but “Christianists.” Apparently, if you take your faith seriously enough to allow it to influence your worldview, and if you seek to live in accordance with that worldview, you are a Christianist.

Bruce on July 28, 2011 at 9:38 pm

– These “children” were 16-22 with many older adults present.
– Norway has *compulsory* military service (age 16 in wartime) and one can volunteer now at age 17 (M) or 18 (F). How many of these N.S. nazis were *already* soldiers?
– ALL are considered adults according to major religions, and thus responsible for their actions.

Do I care if a bunch of commie political agitators & their “facilitators,” attending a Jew-hating N.S. hitler youth camp get it?
Not one damn bit.

Most importantly, the shooter opened an entirely new and *critical* dimension of the jihad – lone wolf counter-jihad strikes, not against jihadists, but against the infinitely more dangerous enemy – government enablers.

NOW! things will get interesting; it’s a whole new world baby.

Hymie T. Robot on July 28, 2011 at 9:57 pm

Thank you Debbie for giving the rest of the story.

Dtom on July 28, 2011 at 10:22 pm

God spoke in the bible that he will curse those who curse Israel. Nothing New in this story really, it’s been going on for thousands of years, nations who have cursed and harmed Jews have vanished from the face of the earth. I am against violence and I do not promote violence however Anti Semitic Jew haters will eventually be marked for destruction by the God of Israel. They wanted to boycott Israel and support Hamas, Divine Judgment fell upon them, let this be a sign to all who want to join Hitlers army.

Eli on July 28, 2011 at 10:30 pm

I’m gonna laugh when the Iranians drive you jew cunts into the sea

Gangsta Vark on July 28, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Gangsta Vark, just go away, FAR AWAY you anti-semitic, neo-nazi asshole! The bible says (and I’m not no biblical absolutlist nor I’m not a biblical expert either), those who curse the jewish people (and I’m not a jewish person BTW) will be cursed. That goes for you Vark, that Hitler in Iran and other jew-hating anti-semite loons in todays world, get lost and don’t let the door hit you in the ass buster!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on July 29, 2011 at 12:05 am

Saying that NAZI’s (so-called “Right Wing”) and Communists (Social Democrats, Progressives, Socialists, Liberals, so-called “Left Wing”) are opposites advocates the false idea of a Right-Left dichotomy.

NAZI’s are National Socialists, Communists are International Socialists. They both want more government control/big government. Their opposites are Anarchists, who want no government. It could be argued that Libertarians are closer to anarchists, and Republicans are in the “middle”.

Dr Dale on July 28, 2011 at 11:55 pm

Will, DS is a proud jewish woman and NO she doesn’t wrap herself in her religion (like some to most muslims). Will, since you claim that your jewish, I can guarantee you if it was the 1930s, and the nazis built the concentration camps, you will sell out of your people in order to live another day, instead of sacrificing yourself to save your people from the hands of Hitler and his Nazi Party! Your full of crap Will and your the one who’s a “taint”.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 29, 2011 at 12:10 am

Rose, calling for a completely unfounded boycott of Israel is, indeed, anti-semitism. Singling out Israel for imagined transgressions, when many other countries do far worse, constitutes unfair singling out. This is what anti-semitism is. Praising wanton terrorists and chastising those trying to defend themselves is nothing but anti-semitism.

A boycott represents disagreement so strong that it is felt necessary to weaken the object of the boycott. When that object has done nothing wrong except trying to defend its existence, there is no other explanation. And the characterization applies to you, also, Rose.

Calling, in effect, for the murder of Israeli soldiers does, indeed, represent ‘dsagreement with Israel’. But that is far, too mild, a characterization.

Little Al on July 29, 2011 at 12:33 am

If you think Breivik shot up Utoya because of its anti-Israel protests, you need to read his manifesto and his online writings.

This is a man who thinks Hitler would have been “regarded as a hero by the Jews” if he had just forcibly deported them instead of murdering them, just like he intends to forcibly deport the Muslims back to the Middle East. Once they arrive there, he doesn’t care a bit what they do to Israel.

He talks about the need to recruit neo-Nazi organizations to the cause, which means not talking about being pro-Israeli. Remember, this is a man who acknowledged being a neo-Nazi until he realized that Hitler’s genocide ruined the chance for a “European Christian homeland”. He wants Europe to be for the Nordic people. Period.

His support of Israel is strictly “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. He says repeatedly that he’ll happily work with anti-Jewish groups if it helps drive the Muslims out of Europe.

He doesn’t care a bit about Jews. All his statistics are about the decline of Christianity. He attacked Utoya for the reason given in his manifesto – he hates the Norwegian Labour Party for allowing non-Nordic/Aryan immigrants into the country.

You may think Utoya was some kind of pro-Palestine, anti-Israel indoctrination camp, but you are fooling yourself if you think that has anything to do with Breivik’s attack. He wanted to kill the leaders of the country, and he thought one of them would be on the island. He got delayed, and missed her, but carried out his attack anyway. That’s according to him, mind you. Read the comments from his lawyer.

Dave H. on July 29, 2011 at 1:39 am

Best to ignore the Jew-hating trolls. I just thought it important to add something here, although at this point it is pure speculation..

Is this mass murder the opening salvo in a future European civil war, that will actually more likely be played out in France, Germany, Holland, the UK, not Norway so much? It’s just the Norway killings that are the spark, the beginning.. It’s the other countries I mention where Muslim immigration and their leftist lackeys are destroying their cultures and futures from within at the highest rate. As a result, grass roots organizations like the EDL, the Dutch Defense League, French Defense League etc have sprung up; they are being increasingly gagged and labeled as Nazis etc, and this only aggravates the anger, resentment, disillusionment.. it’s a powder-keg waiting to explode.

There is so much disturbing symbolism in the Norway killings, Oslo being the place that gave us the disastrous symbol of Jewish appeasement and accommodation of PLO terrorism and fascism aka ‘peace’, as Stockholm via Stockholm Syndrome appropriately means a pathetic reverence for one’s enemies or antagonists bent on doing one harm. The incompetence of the police, the eloi nature of the Norwegian liberals, their helplessness, their love affair with Judenhass and sympathy for the Jihad resonates deeply in this tragedy. This may well be an omen of things to come..

A European civil war in which the eloi liberals are helpless to fight the forces they have unleashed, Islam and a reactionary backlash from the common man (and no I do not include Breivik, a psychopath mass murderer nutjob as a common man, who let us not forget faces the probable maximum sentence of 21 years in the cushiest most luxurious prison system in the world).

The media will continue to cover for the Left and their Islamist allies, but the wind has been sown, the whirlwind will be reaped.

Larry in Tel Aviv on July 29, 2011 at 2:51 am

    I like Jews who aren’t apologists for the worst evils on the plenet. I’m thinking of the stand Daily Kos’ Team Shalom has taken to root out Mondofront. Legitimate criticism of Israel is one thing but imputing everything in the world that goes wrong to it and to the Jews is beyond the pale. The latter is the attitude that needs to be fought. Someone is irrational when they blame the Jews and Israel for something with which they have no association. Every anti-Semite on the planet is blaming the Norway massacre on the Jews. The truth is the Norwegians brought it upon themselves. They are the ones who have to put their own house back in order. In the meantime, the world can just keep Israel out of the discussion!

    NormanF on July 29, 2011 at 6:28 am

The Norwegian Ministry of Education must be asleep on the job if they’re producing children who can’t spell “boycott.” Charles Boycott deserves to have his name spelled correctly.

Yes, Debbie, those teenagers were not Arabs. Their whole culture wasn’t hate, lies and propaganda. They grew up in what was supposed to be a civilized country. I bet some of them pretended to be moved by Anne Frank, may the al-mighty avenge her blood. Nobody, however young and dumb, who was really moved by Anne Frank, who really sympathized with Jews who wanted to stay alive, would EVER call for a boycott of Israel. They had access to the Internet, libraries and facts, and had they so wanted, they could have found out the facts about the Israelis, the history of Israel and the now-so-called “Palestinians.” They were young, dumb and brainwashed and what happened to them was horrendous. May the al-mighty avenge their blood. May Breivik rot in hell. It’s a pity Norway has no death penalty and can’t send him there. I can’t say, about these slaughtered teenagers,”Good riddance to bad rubbish,”, which is what I say about Rachel Corrie-I think that’s what anybody who finds genocide even remotely objectionable says about Rachel Corrie.

The people who did the brainwashing, the teachers, journalists and parents who filled these children’s heads with poisonous lies, DO, a lot of them, know the facts. But they can’t stand the thought that there’s a person on the planet with the slightest sympathy for Jews who want to stay alive. (They don’t care about the now-so-called “Palestinians,” either, any more than the Arab states do, except as cat’s paws to finish off Israel for them. If they really wanted to help the now-so-called “Palestinians,” they would say “The ‘Palestinians’ are Arabs, and the Arab states in general, and Jordan in particular, should cut the bull**** and take them in.”) These informed adults who want Israel finished off MUST realize that if they ever get their wish and Israel is destroyed, G-d forbid, EUROPE, and even they must remember that Norway is in Europe and it has a large population of Moslem potential fifth columnists, is next on the Islamofascist hit list. The Arabs will rampage through Europe-behaving like Arabs. Any European politician, journalist or academic who calls for boycotts of or divestiture from Israel-and doesn’t say a word against Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, North Korea or China-is a man so anxious to see the Jews destroyed that he doesn’t care if Europe goes Islamofascist.

Gahre-Store, standing there smiling, condemning Israel, supporting the “Palestinian” terrorists, doesn’t care if his country goes Islamofascist, and the same kind of people who got ahold of poor Lara Logan-yes, Debbie,I do pity her from the bottom of my heart and I pray for her recovery, in body and soul-get ahold of the girls in the Summer camp-or of his wife, sister, girlfriend or daughter.

I wonder if the girls in the Summer camp realized that with their “Boikott (sic) Israel” sign and their sappy grins and their supporting the Gaza Flotilla, they were, as Shakespeare’s Margaret of Anjou would say, whetting a knife to kill themselves, strewing sugar on a bottled spider whose deady web ensnareth them about? Did not one of them realize that if Israel is destroyed, the Arabs will be free to concentrate on Europe, and the same kind of people who got ahold of Lara Logan will get ahold of them, and there won’t be any Egyptian soldiers to intervene?

Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 3:55 am

Well… funny how you have been in the archives and found a picture of SU,(Sosialistisk Ungdom) a Left side youth party (pic nr. 2)… and then saying they are the same as AUF (Arbeiderpartiets Ungdoms Forening) a laber party (witch would on a scale from left to right be more or less in the middle).

This I feel goes to question the your journalism skills and credibility … It is obvious you don’t really know anything about Norway or it’s politics, and I fell sorry for all those who is wasting their time believing this bullshit.

Michelle
(from Norway)

Michelle on July 29, 2011 at 4:20 am

But what goes around comes around. You support terrorists against innocent civilians in Israel, then you get attacked by terrorists who are upset with your support.

I don’t think that’s why Breivik, may he rot in hell, slaughtered those children, any more than I think he did it because he didn’t like the idea of a co-educational Summer camp. (Soemone suggested that to me.) He did it because he’s an evil psychopath who wanted to be killed by the Norwegian police or army-and to take a lot of innocent children with him!!!

Miranda Rose Smith on July 29, 2011 at 4:26 am

I have idea!

Let’s just get rid of all :

a)jews
b)muslims

World will be happy place w/o u guys 🙂

Europeans proved once “We can!”, maybe we should try again ?:)

z on July 29, 2011 at 4:59 am

Oh yeah, perfect, now we’re going to SHOOT EVERYONE’S ASS OFF WHO DON’T AGREE WITH US??

There is a term called freedom of speech (I think Americans invented it, right?) and as long as you’re just SPEAKING, NOT ACTING according to what you say, it is acceptable in modern democratic society.

Fact is that Israeli did whole shitload of crimes against humanity on Palestinians, mostly those who did nothing wrong (sorry, but killing women and children doesn’t help the “war on terror”). Also is fact that organizations like Hamas did at least equal ammount of crimes against Israelis.

And those who support one side or another are not helping to solve (or at least helping to understand) the problem, they’re just escalating it!

When those people were “supporting Hamas”… wtf, seriously, where did you suddenly find Hamas? Or where was written that those people support them? As far as I see from the pictures, they’re opposing Israeli politics and support Palestinian nation. And now everyone who opposes and fights the western world and our way of living is called “terrorist”?

You people are SICK, because you see the world only black and white. Try to take your part in making it better for people who have less than you, not just for your sorry asses.

The peak of whole stupidity is comparing Norway to nazi Germany… In fact, it would be far more appropriate to change nazi flag with American or Israeli flag, according to OFFICIAL POLITIC those countries put into practise.

Mick on July 29, 2011 at 7:17 am

    Well said, bro.

    This Debbie lady is so far up her own ignorant ass that she can’t see the forest for all the black-and-white turds… And people who actually CAN discern between a racist agenda and plain political involvement should ignore her and her equally mindless readers’ bombastic, hate-mongering claims, while SHE should try to read up on the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict and the Norwegian Labour Party’s stance on it – but then, when have “political commentators” such as her and Beck and O’Reilly ever cared about silly things like SIMPLE FACTS. I bet they think facts are for Nazis or something.

    Hugs,
    – a Norwegian who loves Jews (but still disagrees with Israeli politics)

    3000 on July 29, 2011 at 11:37 am

Very nice article I must say. I dont think I can even say I feel sorry for the victims. If you are an anti-semite and you do not support the chosen people, then you must expect to receive the Justice that other racists and anti-semites get. The holocaust was not long ago, and we must make sure another ever does, and that means taking strong measures. Breivik was obviously insane. Europe needs to become multicultural. This is the 21st century. Europe should not remain white. There is only one race, the human race. Palestine is an illegal, non-existent state filled with terrorists. Anyone who supports these muslims deserve this kind of treatment. We will not tolerate anti-semitism and racism in the 21st century. Shalom and god bless Israel.

Irah greenberg on July 29, 2011 at 7:48 am

MURDER ALL KIKES

El on July 29, 2011 at 8:14 am

I was going to write a a 2 page piece of invective on how you are a soulless, spiteful, horrendous piece of slime that no longer deserves to be called a human being, but there’s a 4 letter word that sums you up, dearest Debs.

C.U.N.T.

Have a wretched day.

Dregen Jelencovich on July 29, 2011 at 8:20 am

Aryan bloodline will never fail. Niggers and Jews should get off our land! WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE

aryan on July 29, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Aryan bloodline will never fail. Niggers and Jews should get off our land! WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE

    WHITE TRASH WILL ALWAYS FAIL BECAUSE YOUR IGNORANT!! YOU NEED TO COME ON BACK TO EARTH!! THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY YOU ASS!! YOU DON’T SEE WHITE SHEETS LIKE GHOST HANGING AROUND ANYMORE!! SO GET OVER IT!! YOU PIECE OF IGNORANT WHITE TRASH!!

    J.R. on July 29, 2011 at 4:01 pm

When you celebrate terrorism you might get one. Maybe f this island is not a Hitler Jugend camp, but it is a leftist anti-Semitic indoctrination camp. Those youngsters who tagically lost ther lives by the hand of this crazed man; were doubly victims.

rebel on July 29, 2011 at 8:34 am

Jonathan E. Grant,

Remember “Never Again”? Yet here you are doing exactly what Hitler has done. You want to exterminate people but at the same time you want sympathy for the Jewish Cause. So exterminating Norway and Sweden means what to you? Also, why don’t you mention all the Jews that exterminated Native Americans? Or those Jews in Hollywood that make movies about the Native American Holocaust and name it entertainment yet every movie about the Jewish Holocaust is to be taken seriously. Bah! You haven’t learned anything except hatred.

Fate on July 29, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Dear Fathead:

    You want to exterminate people but at the same time you want sympathy for the Jewish Cause.

    What people does Ms. Schlussel want to exterminate?

    Also, why don’t you mention all the Jews that exterminated Native Americans?

    How many Jews exterminated the Native Americans?

    Or those Jews in Hollywood that make movies about the Native American Holocaust and name it entertainment yet every movie about the Jewish Holocaust is to be taken seriously.

    You know anybody stupid enough to take HOLOCAUST seriously? DANCES WITH WOLVES was DEFINATELY meant to be taken seriously.

    Miranda Rose Smith on July 31, 2011 at 4:33 am

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