How much truth is there to the truck bomb not being the only bomb? I remember watching early news reports that there were more than one; Or is that just more 9/11 truther BS?

James Phillips on March 11, 2011 at 2:36 pm

I KNEW this was the case all along. I knew Islam was involved in the OKC bombing. I couldn’t find anyone discussing it. Thanks for the info Debbie. My book is ordered.

PDMac60 on March 11, 2011 at 3:01 pm

This is why we need a “Jay Edgar Hoover” working for the FBI today, if we had a Jay Edgar Hoover working in the FBI or the Intelligence Agency, more likely CAIR would’ve been put out of business years ago, and there employees would be arrested for recieving money from overseas (mainly from Hamas & Hezbollah), etc.

And of course, the dumbass left wingers don’t want to acknowledge the fact that McVeigh was NOT a christian, but an atheist. Speaking of which, a few years ago at my old job, one of my former co-workers mentioned the OKC, OK bombings years ago, and he mentioned that McVeigh was a christian, I had to correct my former co-worker (where still friends today, even though me and him don’t work with eachother anymore) and explain to him that McVeigh was an atheist, and he was parrotting liberals for lying about McVeigh.

“A nation is defiend by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Debbie, women like you and Jayna Davis are a what we need right now in the USA. I notice that you and Jayna Davis are telling the public about the Islamic terrorists and our government is either turns its eye or at worst doing the ostrich, the head in the ground, technique. I remember Jayna Davis coming on the air at my local talk radio station and I was intrigued. I will now definitely read the book, since I have the time (underemployed but keeping busy). Thanks for you diligence and keep it up.

Mario on March 11, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Debbie, I remember hearing and seeing Jayna Davis interviewed. She always seemed completely credible and had all these facts assembled — yet — people in the media would refer to her as a crazy conspiracy theorist! So wrong! Thanks for reminding me of this excellent journalist.

Mominminnesota on March 11, 2011 at 3:25 pm

The media will work to discredit anti-Islamists.

They and the Left have a certain theme in which they filter out facts that conflict with it. And the government for its own reasons buys into it and is not interested in treating Islam as a national security threat.

Therefore bloggers and journalists like Debbie Schlussel and Jayna Davis are dismissed as kooks. When one is a lone voice in the wilderness, is any one listening?

The answer to that question is before the Internet, alternative viewpoints were unavailable. Now people who want to find out the truth for themselves can learn about them.

As for the OKC bombing, we will never know the full truth for certain but today’s story has revealed its impossible to ignore a Muslim connection to it – which is real and credible.

But don’t expect those in denial about the threat Islam presents to America to acknowledge it.

NormanF on March 11, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Like you always say Debbie, Famous But Incompetent. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Sean M. on March 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Debbie! How about running for office so you can do something about what you’ve been reporting about! You got my vote!

Roddamon1 on March 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Thanks so much DS. I had this book on my Amazon “Wish List” and now will buy it. You are still the only one out there who REALLY knows and understands Islamic jihad. We learn so much from you.

This am, Laura Ingraham had some Muslim on her show. Supposedly a “real, peaceful one”. Because what I learned from this site, I was able to dismiss him as a faker.

Jayna’s book needs to be pushed more. It is so forgotten. I’m gonna buy it.

(I really like Jack Cashill’s book called “Deconstructing Obama”…boy, Cap’n Zero is even more of a fraud than one can believe. It’s not funny, but kinda funny to see how all the dopey “true believers” were so duped.)

Skunky on March 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Col Burton Partin did an exhaustive review of the bombing and pretty much concluded the spectre of “inside job” had to be raised. Although he was conceded to be an expert re: explosion and demolition, his report was dismissed for political reasons. Highly informative and enlightening. Here it is:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm

Kent on March 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

sorry…mistyped. He is GEN. Burton Partin.

Kent on March 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Oh yeah, and McVeigh sure did die fast.

This county sure has been cooling it’s jets as far as the death penalty goes (I think Mumia abu-Jamal is still with us) yet McVeigh died lickety-split.

You bet there is something to hide!

Skunky on March 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Timothy McVeigh was executed in June 2001, more than six years after the OKC bombing. That’s not exactly what I would call “lickety-split” — certainly not after numerous delays by his lawyer.

As for the sainted Mumia, his death penalty was overturned a decade ago, but the guilty verdict still stands. Sorry, I don’t see a cover-up.

Seek on March 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm

I’ve been waiting for your column on this. Thank you.

esther on March 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Ok Seek, you have reiterated my point for me by 1) Noting that MAJ’s death verdict was overturned. No kidding. This is the zeitgeist these days. It is more out-of-the-ordinary if someone is actually killed due to a death sentence.

2) Please name someone else since 1995 who was givin’ the DP and has died w/in 6 years. It’s rarer than rocking-horse shite and you know it.

Didn’t some state (I wanna say Illinois….but maybe I am projecting as that state is the most stupid in the nation) just outaw the DP this week?

Seek. Fail.

Skunky on March 11, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Thanks for this Deb, I too read the initial things that Jayna was writing way back, and how almost everyone I shared the info with dismissed it.

Dave on March 11, 2011 at 5:22 pm

I read Jayna’s book when it first came out and couldn’t find anyone who had even heard of this. I must say, it’s interesting how the same people who called 911 Truthers nuts, are now saying their government conspires.

Malibu on March 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm

McVeigh was a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. He believed Saddam was wronged by the U.S. The Saddam-McVeigh connection to the Oklahoma City bombing is not far-fetched at all:

An Essay on Hypocrisy
By Timothy McVeigh

The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons (“weapons of mass destruction”) — mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that”s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during the “Cold War” with the Soviet Union. Why, then is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) — with respect to Iraq”s (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We”ve all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen these pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other “regional conflicts” that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of “weapons of mass destruction.”

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks, or months to die.)

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of “mass destruction” — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.

Hypocrisy when it comes to death of children? In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes “a shield.” Think about that.

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mcveigh/okcaug98.htm

The Shadowmaster on March 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm

Oh my G-d Debbie, thank you for posting this. I read that Davis’ book in a couple of days as I couldn’t put it down. I have always wondered what happened to Al-Hussaini. When I read the book, it shocked me and horrified me that the F.B.I. could act so obtuse to such obvious evidence. The lack of reaction by the F.B.I. in this case should be frightening to all Americans. Thanks again!

Rocky on March 11, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Holy Shiite!
There is no such thing as coincidence. WTF is going on in this country? Begs the question, what really happened with TWA Flt 800? It just accidentally exploded? Chuh..riight.

Sick_Boy on March 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm

Debbie,

A few years ago Jayna Davis was helpful and kind enough to communicate with me for a while via email. She answered my questions, gave information, and responded to updates I might have sent her, such as the incident on local Philadelphia Area talk radio in which host Michael Smirconish asked former PA Senator Arlen Specter what he found out about Jayna Davis research, Al Husseini, and the Iraqi and Islamic terrorist connection to the Oklahoma City Alfred E. Murrah Federal Building explosion-attack.

Specter claimed that the former Governor of Oklahoma said that there were not interested in that information, but that it was researched and they did not think the information was accurate.

I was peeved, for the way Specter went about it, and the answers that the former Governor of OK and others, such as FBI folks, gave was just dismissive and rejected out-of-hand.

Jayna responded to that with a very intelligent and convincing retort, which demonstrated to me that she was well informed, had done deep research, and was not “falling down” under the repeated dismissals and denials of the likes of those aforementioned nay sayers.

Another aspect of al Qaeda, terrorism, Islamofascist militant Jihadi blood and death cult clues and evidence which is not even spoken of is Salmaan Pak training center found around 60 miles from Bagdad along the Tigris River. There it was found was an airline fuselage with no air strip for take off or landings, a train, and a bus, all used to teach terrorists to take over aircraft in small groups, and to take over and enact terrorist and military or para military activities on trains and busses. Larry Elder, Esquire, LA Talk Radio host, and author (Ten Things You Can’t Say in America – exposing black racism, and Showdown) and columnists-commentary writer, interviewed a man who claimed to have worked at Salmaan Pak. That man described how Iraqis were trained there, and that outside groups were brought in from outside of Iraq, but kept totally separate from the Iraqis, and trained there as well.

The man interviewed by Larry Elder described how these folks were trained to take over or engage in action in small groups of four, five, or so, on the aircraft fuselage.

With Obama and many of his cabinet and Czars, such as his security guy demonstrating ignorance of such issues that many lay persons had been aware of for days, such as the terrorist activity in Britain, etc., it is clear that these people don’t know any thing, or they are lying, and that if al Husseini, Iraqi Muslims, and other Muslims were involved in the Oklahoma attack, and in training the terrorists who took over the planes on 9/11/2001, these folks in government wouldn’t know it, don’t care, or are placating to, or kissing the butts of the Muslims who they want to love at the risk of the rest of us being slaughtered, or losing our freedoms and liberties to the “Religion of Peace, Love, Tolerance, Mercy, Compassion, and Understanding.” In other words, to a bunch of murderous, blood and death cult, sadistic, sick, perverted barbarians!

Many of our government officials appear to be incompetent, and as far away from wise and capable as earth is from Andromeda.

Where is the REAL James Bond when we need him?

William on March 12, 2011 at 3:57 am

I remember Gen Partins report it was ignored however do the science the amount of extreme low grade explosive that was not contained (ie little of the blast hit the building. The General went through and has 30 years of experience with this that the blast was not from outside the building but inside take a look at the damage done it is in roughly a funnel shape coming from the center outwards in other words it originated inside the building not outside. Another problem with the outside explosion is the building itself. It was built I believe in the cold war where buildings were made to with stand to some extent a nuclear blast(in some buildings from this period you can still see the blast shutters on the building) I am not a big conspiracy person however when the FACTS show up and are provable I believe them more than what is either ignored or issued in a news statement from NBC.

Jonathan Gartner on March 12, 2011 at 1:33 pm

“I read Jayna’s book when it first came out and couldn’t find anyone who had even heard of this. I must say, it’s interesting how the same people who called 911 Truthers nuts, are now saying their government conspires.

Malibu on March 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm”

Malibu, it’s because the people are WAKING UP! Oh and McVeigh…CIA OPERATIVE!

Bob Porrazzo on March 12, 2011 at 3:03 pm

After all i am elated to see Americans awakening to the Islamic lies and garbage. My hat off for Jayna.

G. R. SCHAROUBIM on March 12, 2011 at 7:38 pm

“She [Jayna Davis] always seemed completely credible and had all these facts assembled — yet — people in the media would refer to her as a crazy conspiracy theorist!”

I haven’t seen her yet, but from Jayna Davis’s writings I have read thus far, she comes across as the opposite of a conspiracy theorist: her words are measured, sober, rational; and she never makes leaps of logic or emotional appeals. It’s a crime that George Bush didn’t back her and promote a federal investigation based on her journalistic work.

Hesperado on March 14, 2011 at 4:16 am

There is one little problem with the Muslim theory for the OKC bombing: no Muslims or Islamic group has taken credit for it, as they tend to do after other terrorist attacks. That said, a terrorist attack putatively non-Islamic (and homegrown with white boys) is kind of a “two-fer” for Muslims:

1) they get to mass-murder and sow terror (albeit, without the pleasure of notoriety for it)

and

2) they get to feed the PC MC “Ego Quoque” meme that helps to continue to deflect attention from ongoing Islamic attacks.

Hesperado on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 am

Shouldn’t Representative King investigate this?

Tanstaafl on March 14, 2011 at 11:39 am

Six years is no time for a death sentence to be carried out. The only reason it was done so quickly was because he dropped appeals. He could have drug it out 30 years. Virginia is the best state for death penalty, their average I believe is 9 years which is unheard of, most states take 3x that amount. I was happy to see the pirates of the latest hijack murders being tried in Virginia. Maybe they will all get death sentences.

CJ on March 14, 2011 at 1:32 pm

Correction – pirates being arraigned in Virginia.

CJ on March 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm

My first book: Is Fanatic Islam a Global Threat? 1998 and my third book: Islamic Threat Updates Almanac #1 quote Jayna Davis as well as provide other info I received while in Oklahoma during the Murrah Federal Building explosion that McVeigh and Nichols were front men for Saddam Hussein.

These two books as well as my others may be ordered from 1 800 540 0828 or from my website bookstore: http://www.vicmord.com.

thanks and Shalom from Avi Lipkin, in Ft. Worth, TX.

Avi Lipkin on July 24, 2011 at 12:46 am

Please remember also, that Mcveigh’s partner Terry Nichols, was married to a Phillipina, and was visiting the Phillipines at the same time as Ramzi Yousef, the plotter of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

(There is a Muslim insurrection in a part of the Phillipines)

Anyways, Yousef was an expert in bomb making.

Coincidence? You decide. You have Mcveigh hanging out all over town with Hussain Al-Hussaini, and various Muslims working for a property management company in OKC, and Terry Nichols in the Phillipines at the same time that Ramzi Yousef was there.

Rabbit Valley Rebel on November 24, 2012 at 4:17 am

Americans are so naive. Face the fact, Muslims hate you.Stop trying to analyze why.You are Kaffir. You are unclean and infidels.Your spineless, gutless, apologetic Richard Chamberlain stylePoliticians and media mask the truth. 99.9% of all terrorism is Islamic.19, 000 islamic terrorist acts committed sinceseptember 11, 2001.The mediaRefuse to call it Islamic.Check out 1400 year secret, why we are afraid by Bill Warner show how Islamic people lie, deceive and play the victim card over and over again to the gullible west. They practice Taqiyya, which means theyCan lie and deceive the infidel because the ends justify the means.That’s in the religion of peace book they read which santions rape of women and the beating up of women and the blissful killing of all non muslims or apostates from their peaceful and genteel faith.You have 2 choices America and the West.Become aware of the deceitful practices of muslims, there are many good teachers like Robert Spencer and Bill Warner that analyze the so called religion of peace (we’ll blow you to pieces)Or you can continue in your naitivity and have them rob you of your freedoms, impregnateYour low self esteem daughters, shoot you up and fund Islamic friendly presidents like Barack HUSSEIN Obama.Ask yourself, why dont Hindus, Buddhist, Christians or secularistsCommit such heinous acts? Because the dont read the Koran or practice the religion of the mythical peace, Islam.

Max on April 20, 2013 at 5:12 am

I knew and hung out with this guy a bit when I waz staying at father bills and I remember being pretty taken back when I read about the possible okc bombing connection in the paper. I knew about the assault on the other guy from the shelter he really jacked the dude up but the fool probably deserved it. Anyways he was a pretty cool guy essentially, at least in my perception…but yeah, interesting story anyways.

dave on June 23, 2016 at 10:38 am